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Posted by: muscle_girl Jan 12 2006, 08:14 AM

This is a brief excerpt from the plan. http://www.globalpensionplan.net/?a=116k94m
Basically the idea is that for a small signup fee of $35 payable via eGold you could earn up to $55,000 and then even more with referrals. I have been signed up since December and am signing up family and friends so that they can profit down the road also.

Global Pension Plan is nothing more complicated than a simple pension insurance. However, the program we have established makes it possible for our members to receive the financial benefits in a few months compared to years or decades in case of normal pension insurance. It also removes all the other negative details of the normal pension insurance savings and turns it into a tempting opportunity.

Normally, according to the policy, once the holder of the pension insurance turns 65 or 70, the insurance matures and the benefits will be paid out. This means waiting of years, even decades before benefiting from the financial sacrifices person have made out of the salary months after months, years after years for even 45 years. Also a less favourable point of the normal pension insurance savings is that the later you enter the policy, the more you are required to pay premiums to gain at least reasonable benefits when the policy matures.

Based on our extensive experience and vast contacts in financial world during the last few decades, we have succeeded in establishing a very unique plan around the basic idea of pension insurance with a reputable partner. By becoming a member of Global Pension Plan, You will get the pension insurance for a minimal flat rate of $35 . The fee includes all the expenses (processing, handling, anonymous debit card, shipping etc.) involved into Your Global Pension Plan membership and you will not be asked to pay any additional fees or expenses to receive the Compensation and the Loyalty Program Rewards.

The next step towards the completion of our business plan is that our organization pledge the pension insurance contract of yours for 60% of the face value of $200,000 giving a liquid assets of $120,000 to proceed further (please see the accurate calculations below). Out of this amount will be paid the single premium payment of member's insurance policy, worth $41,000 (the anticipated average premium of 34 years old person).

(Mortgaging the pension insurance contract is similar to property mortgaging when using the property itself as a collateral. The policy is a legally binding agreement given by a reputable insurance company.)

The most tempting item of expenditure from the member's aspect is the one-time Compensation of $55,000 paid out few months after the sign up and the closure of the program from new sign ups. On the very same date of the Compensation payout the Loyalty Program Rewards will also be processed and paid out (please see more details below).

http://www.globalpensionplan.net/?a=116k94m

Posted by: flowerpower Jan 17 2006, 09:08 AM

I am glad that I find this very good offer.

Posted by: muscle_girl Jan 17 2006, 03:50 PM

if you have any questions let me know -- I will try my best to answer them.

Posted by: ironwill Jan 17 2006, 04:44 PM

I joined this program months ago but didn't invest because of such a high return on little investment.

thanks

Posted by: muscle_girl Jan 17 2006, 05:34 PM

If you joined then you did invest. You have to spend the $35 in order to join/enter your details. You might want to check your emails again and go to the site -- likely you have an account -- if you did join and not just browse the information.

I know the return seems high - compared to what you are putting into the system. But the "return" is based on the mortgaging of the policy it has nothing to do with the $35 you give for the site administration and debit card fees.

If you take the time to read through the information I am sure you will understand how this program works.

Posted by: Autumm Jan 17 2006, 05:43 PM

site is down?

Posted by: muscle_girl Jan 17 2006, 05:52 PM

Seems like a lot of sites are down tonight -- I heard one of the hosts for many sites is having a problem tonight...read it in a thread here on MMG. Best to try back tomorrow.

Posted by: txatmowner Jan 17 2006, 11:50 PM

Hey there,
I heard there was another program that was opened 2-3 years ago that is nearing their goal. I would sure like to know what that one is because obviously the wait would be a lot shorter. You guys ask around and if you hear anything email me @ txatmowner@hushmail.com I am definently going to be signing up for this one as well since its just a $35 investment. As for it being a small amount to invest. . .that is just for the setting up of the DC and administration fee's.

Posted by: barlor Jan 19 2006, 06:26 PM

Do you know how many members in the Global Pension Plan?

Posted by: joei Jan 19 2006, 07:03 PM

dear,

ok,i just want to know.now i sign up and paid fee $35 after tat i will get 1 debit card from GPP<right ??
After that,how long my investment will return me $55.000 ?? Just that .Please give me a specific explanantion or email me at
with_joei@yahoo.com


Thx

Posted by: muscle_girl Jan 20 2006, 07:05 PM

There are not as of yet a great number of people in the program which is why I decided to post it here on MMG. I am hoping to attract more members to speed up the process.
This is a long term program. It requires 100,000 members - I do not as of yet know the membership total -- but I am trying to find out and will let you knw.

From their FAQ
Q: How many pension insurance policies are issued altogether?
A: Only 100,000 policies will be issued. Once reached, no more policies will be issued under this program. We have decided to limit the quantity of policies issued to make sure the program completes as fast as possible.

The sooner we reach the 100,000 members mark and are able to close the program, the higher the probability that we will succeed. We want to keep as low profile as possible, not to attract too much publicity and most certainly not to disturb any national bureaucrats with our program.

Q: How can I withdraw the Compensation and the Loyalty Program Rewards?
A: The membership fee of $35 includes an anonymous debit card which can be used to either withdraw the funds or spend in point of sales worldwide.


I hope this settles a few questions. As soon as I find more information on the total membership numbers I will let you know.

Posted by: jordh11 Jan 20 2006, 08:14 PM

So after the $35 signup fee, are there any other fees or investment that has to be made?

Posted by: muscle_girl Jan 21 2006, 07:24 AM

$35 is the ONLY fee and that is for basic administrative costs and the debit card. There will be no other fees for this at any point.

Posted by: mazzin Jan 21 2006, 07:12 PM

Any of you here have earned big on this?

Posted by: muscle_girl Jan 22 2006, 05:39 AM

mazzin

If you read through the site you will see that when one earns then everyone will earn -- it will happen all at the same time. And as this program is yet in the recruiting phase no one is currently earning. This is a one-time payout opportunity.

Posted by: chinbiz Jan 24 2006, 06:13 AM

how long is your estimate for the program
to start earning?
can a person outside US apply for this?

Posted by: muscle_girl Jan 24 2006, 06:23 AM

I did not read anywhere that is only for US people --- so I suspect anyone can join. I imagine it will take one more year to fill it up..... But the more people we can chat up the faster it will go!!!

Posted by: stine Jan 29 2006, 04:45 AM

moment of truth here folks...,

having already joined this program...,

like a month ago.., how many people have joined so far ?????


Also someone please clarify if I will ask for the funds I invested..,

if I should decide to pull out. I'm trying to hold unto my opinion ..,

giving this whole situation couple more months.., but can't help

asking myself why the more experienced people who are in a position of

bringing thousands of people have choosen to stay away from this program.

Personally I stopped sharing this as I received enough flak from veteran players in this

field..., so whomever has access to admin of this program, tell them to provide more

convincing info if they desire to draw one hundred thousand folks.

Posted by: muscle_girl Jan 29 2006, 09:38 AM

I don't think you can really "pull out" of this one. Besides the "funds" are only $35 -- hopefully you earned that in some hyip (that's how I made my $35).

I plan on sending it over to some marketers pretty soon actually -- since I am NOT a marketer. Actually there is one big marketer involved already...that's where I found out about it (the guy that runs Boulat). I know of several other marketers who claim they can build a downline in weeks...I guess we will find out.

This is really a long-term kind of program -- it's going to take another 6months to a year to pan out...but if/when it does -- it's going to be a nice 55K.

I still haven't looked to see how many have joined...it's there in the forum...but I haven't made it there yet.

Posted by: Holymoly Jan 29 2006, 10:10 AM

What are they doing in the Global Pension Plan?!
They sign faked pension policies, go to a bank and mortgage them and then give you all the money??????
And who, do you think, will have to pay back all the Mortgages???????

What a BS!
FORGET YOUR $35 !

And don´t offer such a BS under real investment opportunities!

That´s my opinion, but I´m sure that many of you don´t want to hear it!

Greetings, Holymoly

Posted by: tomu Mar 3 2006, 12:18 AM

Why do you assume that the policies are faked?

And as to the mortgage, this is my understanding of how it works.. Once they've gotten 100,000 members the program is closed and the pension policy is then issued in the member's name. At this stage the policy is not active as the Trust Partner hasn't paid the premium yet. The member is then asked to sign the sales contract so that all the liabilities, and benefits concerning the policy can be transferred in Trust Partner's name. At that point they own the future benefits of the agreement, and can mortgage the policy.

Once the policy has been mortgaged, the Trust Partner is the debtor, not the person the policy has been purchased from. The funds will then be released for the Trust Partner to take care of the expenses of the pension policy, including paying the members the Compensation of $55,000.

The plan seems sound to me, or at least plausible, and the numbers seem to work out.

Now having said all that, I would probably still put this in my "to good to be true" category.. There's definitely a chance that it could be a scam, but for $35, to me it's worth the risk. I've risked far more for less potential payout.

Posted by: sleeper Mar 9 2006, 11:09 AM

I would like to join this program, but I don't have any egold. Is there a sponsor who can give me egold for paypal?

Posted by: leslie2000 Mar 12 2006, 01:19 AM

have a look!!!!
o, i like it ,very best!

Posted by: gmidan8081 Mar 12 2006, 11:03 PM

site close for new members

Posted by: tomu Mar 13 2006, 11:21 AM

Just to clarify, new membership is suspended temporarily until they have their programmers make changes to the back office script. Apparently there were many bugs in the script resulting in them having to do a lot of manual fixes with referrals etc.. Once they've fixed the script they will begin takiing new members again.

Posted by: beFORTY Mar 14 2006, 09:14 PM

thats just a bs attempt to let them loook professional, stay cleear

Posted by: crave681 May 8 2006, 07:12 AM

The site is up! They are taking new members and have grown to over 6500 as of today!
Soon membership will explode. This is an offshore opportunity available to anyone in the world.
You can also sign up your friends and family , and earn $2k commissions on them, once the pensions
are purchased, and in addition to the $55k you will make. YOU DO NOT NEED ANY REFERRALS TO MAKE MONEY HERE, EVERYONE WILL MAKE $55k... HOWEVER, you can make ALOT more with referrals.
Here is a breakdown of how it will work....
the investors will get a loan (mortage actually) on each policy...but to keep this simple...
let's focus on one member.....so, this person is 35 years old, and the insurance company says
they want $41,000 as the premiums to buy a $200k insurance pension plan.
that 200k is not actually 200k now....but it will be worth 200k when that 35 yr old turns 67.
so, the investors that got the loan on that 200k policy, can get a loan of $120k on it...
so, now, the investors have 120k (from the loan company)....to work with
they have to pay 55k to the 35 yr old...per the contract...
they have to pay 41k to the insurance company that's writing the pension plan....
now, that's 41k + 55k = 96k...leaving 24k for referral commissions and admin fees.
$120,000 - $41,000 - $55,000 = $24,000. Remember who's all involved here....
1) the insurance company, 2) the investors, 3) the loan company and 4) us.
when that 35yr old turns 67, then the investors turn in the pension plan to the insurance
company, and gets paid out $200,000. They owed $120k on it, so, they pay that back and they
make a cool $80,000 on each and very person they do this for.
therefore, everyone involved makes out...
1) the insurance company, because they get years or premiums up front, and will invest those $s (OPM!),....
2) the investors make $80k on each person
3) the loan company gets it's interest on the $120k loan they made to the investors
and 4) we get our 55k plus commissions!
Join today! See my sig!
Good luck , and happy investing

Posted by: jb1441 May 8 2006, 09:07 PM

The program began in May, 2005. Only 6500 members in a year($227,500 collected)
for this fantastic opportunity for only $35!
They need 100,00 before they do anything.
That gives them $3.5 million!
Then they pay out 100,00 x $55,000 all at once! (do the math)
Plus another $2000 loyaly bonus to each member!
But, after all, its only $35 you lose!
And they are off-shore!

Posted by: crave681 May 9 2006, 11:49 AM

clearly , you didnt read my post. Try again. Since the site came back
up, theyve added several hundred members in 5 days time, but hey,
your decision.

Posted by: NOREFFENDY May 9 2006, 09:27 PM

Are there any risk in losing our money?

How could we got hold of the debit card?

Can the debit card be usde in any ATM'S in the world including Malaysia?

Posted by: crave681 May 10 2006, 05:45 PM

there is risk ANYWHERE you put your money, even under your bed!
The debit card will be given to you as part of the compesation when the deal has been closed.
It can be used anywhere in world.
good luck and happy investing

Posted by: NOREFFENDY May 10 2006, 07:30 PM

thank you for your advise sir.. i really appreaciate it...

Posted by: airforceinvestor May 12 2006, 06:10 AM

so if i join, pay my fee, and refer my dad, and he joins and pays the fee, do I get $2000 now or when they get 100,000 members?

Posted by: littledoll May 12 2006, 06:19 AM

If a person joins, pays their $35 and refers people, they receive $2,000 a person. But they will not get that until 100,000 people have joined. They will get all their money they earned from refering others and their $55,000 when 100,000 people have joined. A person has to be 66 years of age or YOUNGER to receive the $55,000, but if they are 66 years of age or older, they can refer new members and just receive $2,000 per person.

Posted by: crave681 May 12 2006, 08:30 AM

yep, the real money comes from referring others, even tho you dont have to refer a single person to get the 55k. But you can spend 700eg, which refers 20 people, they dont even need to start an egold acct, you just have to put their information in, and that 700eg becomes 40k down the road, plus your 55k. Those people you referred dont even have to know about it until its time for them to sign the documents and get their money... or you can tell them and see if they want to refer anyone too so they can make extra as well. I think once people realize this, the 100k membership will fill up VERY quickly.

Posted by: NOREFFENDY May 12 2006, 01:24 PM

Good explanation... i''ll really appreaciate it...

Posted by: MerkZeilder May 12 2006, 01:39 PM

Thank for the explaination. I guess it covered very well.

Posted by: matratzac May 12 2006, 09:43 PM

Any DD on this company?

Posted by: crave681 May 13 2006, 08:33 AM

Just received this reply from gpp admin...

> my question is... why is egold the only payment option? it seems to me
> that a truly serious program would at least offer other payment options...
> credit card, bank wire, other ecurrency...
> Robert



Dear Robert,

More payment methods will be added in the near future. We will accept at
least e-gold, e-bullion, wire transfer and Western Union.

Thank you!

Regards,
Stella

Posted by: yllen May 16 2006, 01:36 AM

Any idea on the number of members so far? Thanks

Posted by: yllen May 16 2006, 02:17 AM

Any idea how many members have so far registered? Thank you

Posted by: crave681 May 16 2006, 03:28 AM

yep, today they passed the 7000 mark... thats over 800 new members in the last 10 days since the
new revamped site came up. Soon they will begin to see more momentum as people begin to understand
the potential earnings.... i know one person who has over 100k in referrals, and will probably pass one million before its over. Myself, i only have seven referrals so far, but i think i will add quite a few more too.
good luck all, and shine on...

Posted by: Belisma May 19 2006, 11:25 AM

sounds very interesting!! will give it a try!

Posted by: crave681 May 19 2006, 02:41 PM

good choice, and congrats! as of just a moment ago, we are at 7239 members... thats 1000 in the last two weeks. i know i will add at least 3 more to that in the next couple weeks too
shine on

Posted by: bensonmtkg May 19 2006, 08:37 PM

I think this is a great program. I have been in contact with the admin for several months and she is dedicated to reaching the 100,000. We could very well reach this goal within the next few months.

The potential here is incredible and I would definately tell anyone riding the fence to take the leap. The cost is exceptionally low for the gains.

Seeing how it has been taking off during this past month is just another indicator that this program is going to be something that people talk about for years.

$35 is a small price to pay for me. I have spent more in doublers and HYIP's and they never ever offered the earning potential as like this.

I am going to try to refer people but that has never been my strong point so we will see how it goes.

Posted by: larrymik May 19 2006, 10:38 PM

i don't believe the hype at all. whoever thinks they're going to receive any thing close to 55K is kidding themselves! yes, 100K is the mark, it's when they'll run with everyones $35. 100K x $35 = not bad!

Posted by: crave681 May 19 2006, 11:10 PM

why is it that i am willing to bet all my gains in this industry that you, larry, have lost more than 35 on a program?
My bet would be in the thousands too... My gains are in the thousands because i took the risks while still playing by the rules. Some of the risks i took were in programs i thought i would make tons in.... like 12dp
and 5df, and s7g. Lost bigtime in those.....
Some of the mad gains i made.... surprisingly, were in vasco. Maybe i ll lose my 35 bucks here... actually its 150 because i sponsored in some friends and family.... but thats a drop in the hat compared to what i lost
in some other ones. So larry.... if you have some magic crystal ball that tells you the future, i am looking forward to signing up with the programs you recommend. But if youre naysaying because you have nothing better to do, at least have one shred of credible evidence on which to back your claim.
Tell ya what , i ll drop you a line when im laffing at you on my way to the bank....

Posted by: bensonmtkg May 21 2006, 04:35 PM

Well, people have spent more on less. I think the only reason some people don't like the program is because there is no instant gratification. You actually have to wait.


I for one am willing to put in $35 while doing other things and when it comes, I will be a very happy camper.

Posted by: crave681 May 24 2006, 07:43 PM

exactly right... and its nice that im starting to see some gpp ads in my surf rotations.... passed 7500 member mark today... thats 1500 new members in less than 3 weeks, and momentum should start building even quicker after the 10,000 mark.

Posted by: ironman1964 May 24 2006, 09:27 PM

I am involved in the other similar program (e65) and we are still waiting after 5+ years but it still could happen....I guess. I have seen no real reason to believe that it isn't real, I just don't know whether they can get it wrapped up. They also accepted 100,000 policies. They got their members faster because if I recall correctly, it was either free or $5 in the beginning, so people had no reason to believe they were being scammed.

GPP will probably have alot harder time getting their 100,000 because of the $35 joining fee. They are in a quandry because they want to stay behind the scenes and avoid big brother, but they also must be well known enough to attract 100,000 members. In any case, I will probably join if they can start growing faster, 7,000 in 1 year is certainly not going to cut it.

Posted by: kelley May 24 2006, 11:23 PM

I read somewhere that they will clear, it was either $8million or $80million. Can't remember where I seen it. But the profit, either one is worth promoting this program for a couple of years or maybe sooner for the Owner of the Idea or program. I see how it would work easily and legal. They could settle for a few million less and it would not take as long.

Just my thoughts:

Posted by: crave681 May 25 2006, 10:24 PM

well.... they have added 1500 members of those 7600(as of today) in the last 3 WEEKS.... the program was totally off the radar, and also the site was offline for over a month while they changed it. I believe momentum will build soon and we could see the 100k next year. Dont forget, once theres 50k members... they would only have to buy 1 membership each (they could buy it for their family or friend without even telling them) and that would fill it up..
The price of the membership has changed from 35US to 30EU also... since the dollar is declining lately.
shine on

Posted by: sagomez May 25 2006, 11:30 PM

I've been having GPP in my folder of 'Under study-Good' for awhile but haven't joined yet. You seem to explain the program well and thanks for the explanations. I've clicked your sig and added that to my folder (deleting the previous referral). Let me know when it reaches 30-40k members so i will join around then.
Good thing they have member counter in their website now. Still a long way to go though... Keep posting any new developments will ya ? lol

Posted by: crave681 May 26 2006, 10:40 AM

will do, and thanks! its sort of become a lil pet project, keeping tabs on the program and watching membership levels. its only a 35 pet project too, not much more than a test spend would be in other programs

Posted by: Belisma May 26 2006, 04:20 PM

there page is gone. does anyone know why??

Posted by: matratzac May 26 2006, 04:38 PM

yea site down here too

Posted by: sagomez May 26 2006, 08:34 PM

did a whois search to see what happened and got this


----------------------------------------------------------
Global Pension Plan

26th May 2006 Update
Dear members, I apologise for having to contact you in this manner, but this morning the Global Pension Plan website came under severe DDoS attack. This caused our hosting provider to take our website offline and we are forced to search elsewhere for a hosting provider that will help us mitigate this malicious DDoS attacks.

I will keep you all updated until the website is back up and running again

Posted by: sagomez May 31 2006, 09:02 AM

site is back !!!!

Posted by: untone May 31 2006, 09:41 AM

i'm also interested.. pm me when it reach 40k member also, the first person to pm me will be my sponsor..
thank you

Posted by: behsai Jun 2 2006, 12:25 PM

Wowo, I cant believe such site can have 7k+ members thus far

100k - 7k is like 93k away, and when that comes, they need to come out with so much money to pay for their members, not that I cant afford to lose $35, but its not worth for me to lose

Posted by: sagomez Jun 4 2006, 09:15 AM

Summary

* Member Counter : 7702
* Launched on the 23rd of May 2005
* Sign up fee $35 - Includes a Banking Solution - No further fees
* Compensation $55,000
* Loyalty Program Rewards $2,000 per member / 12 levels
* "$1M For Children" Charity Plan
* Only 100,000 members accepted

Posted by: hannamaja Jun 6 2006, 06:52 AM

Hi
If you sign in under me, I will sign my next person under you. It's a win win situation . Send a Pm and I will send you my link.

Her's a little explanation on the money issue from GPPs own web site.

The next step towards the completion of our business plan is that our organization pledge the pension insurance contract of yours for 60% of the face value of $200,000 giving a liquid assets of $120,000 to proceed further (please see the accurate calculations below). Out of this amount will be paid the single premium payment of member's insurance policy, worth $41,000 (the anticipated average premium of 34 years old person).

(Mortgaging the pension insurance contract is similar to property mortgaging when using the property itself as a collateral. The policy is a legally binding agreement given by a reputable insurance company.)

The most tempting item of expenditure from the member's aspect is the one-time Compensation of $55,000 paid out few months after the sign up and the closure of the program from new sign ups. On the very same date of the Compensation payout the Loyalty Program Rewards will also be processed and paid out (please see more details below).

On the very date the insured individual turns 67 and thus the policy matures, the insurance is paid in full for the Trust Partner. At this time the insured individual is not going to receive benefits anymore as he or she has already received the Compensation of $55,000, so there is no need to reflect on the program since you have received the funds.

Posted by: sagomez Jun 6 2006, 07:22 AM

Summary

* Member Counter : 7818

Posted by: hannamaja Jun 7 2006, 06:34 AM

Member counter 7868

Send a Pm and I will send you my link

Take care

hannamaja

Posted by: dswide Jun 7 2006, 06:45 AM

I think I will keep my $35.00

Posted by: nolan Jun 10 2006, 12:29 AM

Many people were also asking me as to when will this program reach 100,000 members.

To answer the question, let us do some mathematics. This simple calculation was also given to us by the GPP Admin.

Lets say that at the end of May 2006, there were about 7,000 members. If each member were to introduce only one new member each month, it would mean that by the end of June there would be 14,000 members.

These 14,000 members would then introduce one new member for the next month so that by the end of July, there would be 28,000 members.

This goes on so that at the end of August, there would be 56,000 members.

By the end of September, we would have then reached 100,000 members.

At that point, it will take about 6 weeks of the policies to be done, mortgaged and all of us paid. That should be about November 2006.

Join us while you can. We will then be able to look forward to a good Christmas and New Year.

Remember, your expenses are going to be only $35 and as for me, I have lost way lots more than that in Scam programs. This program loks plausible.

PM me if you want a Referral Link.

Posted by: NOREFFENDY Jun 10 2006, 12:42 AM

Can anyone make an intiatives to create a club under this programme?

Like the usd22 club... We can work well in a team...?

Any suggestions? opinion?

Posted by: NOREFFENDY Jun 10 2006, 01:00 AM

Let's rock this programme... Hopefully it is not a scam....

Posted by: sagomez Jun 10 2006, 07:42 AM

Summary

* Member Counter : 8035

Posted by: bvh Jun 12 2006, 08:34 PM

hi

Site says this domain is parked, anyone know what the story is

Brenda

Posted by: sagomez Jun 15 2006, 01:57 AM

Website is back

Summary
* Member Counter : 8053

Posted by: Stijn1234 Jun 15 2006, 02:20 AM

In my humble opinion, it looks to good to be true and with my previous online experience in 99,9% of the cases it IS to good to be true when it looks that way.

Sorry, count me out.

Posted by: hannamaja Jun 15 2006, 04:37 AM

Hi everyone!!

I have received a lots of PM asking for my refferal link, but unfortunately I can't answer them. I have not posted enough on this forum.

Please resend your pm to my e-mail, posted in my profile

hannamaja

Posted by: crave681 Jun 15 2006, 07:38 PM

8100 now! We will see more momentum very soon..

Posted by: sagomez Jun 22 2006, 03:48 AM

Summary

* Member Counter : 8323

Posted by: 332209 Jun 22 2006, 04:51 AM

is it right time to join it. advice me

Posted by: littledoll Jun 22 2006, 08:18 AM

Yes, join and then get as many people in as you can, so we can hurry it up and get the 100,000 before this year is up!

Posted by: sagomez Jun 24 2006, 11:05 PM

Summary

* Member Counter : 8402

Posted by: geo8o2 Jun 25 2006, 09:18 AM

risk vs. reward is too good to pass up. i think i'll join also.. later on though.

Posted by: ewealth Jun 26 2006, 04:07 PM

I agree. One time payment of $35 to end up with $55,000 seems a very limited liability.

Posted by: sagomez Jun 27 2006, 06:05 AM

Insider Update from Stella: 14 June 2006:

"I had to put the Trust Partners against the wall as they were not willing to develop our site any further, and, as we all know, there are some certain lacks, like the stability.

Now, at the very moment (since Monday), our technician is setting up, transferring and configuring the site to the most idiot proof (sorry about the expression - please modify if needed) place you can find from the internet.

The hosting will stay in Malaysia far away from the Big Brothers, but we have purchased the most powerful DDoS protection.

The prices are horrendous! The very basic price against the minor DDoS attacks is about $1500 per month. They had a look at the DDoS attacks data the hosting company provided them, and I can assure you the basic package is not sufficient for GPP. The attacks have been huge, so we need a "huge" protection too.

All the previous protection plans have failed under the attacks and if the latest one will, then there really isn't any other way to go. But it will last! They guarantee 90% up-time when the site is attacked big time and that's much better than the recent 50% to 70%.

Also, very good news for all of us! We have developed a new "gift coupon" feature and it will be ready in two weeks.

To make the long story short, once installed, you will be able to log in to the member area, click "gift coupon" and make an automated e-gold/e-bullion payment and send out a free membership for your friends. Well, it's not free for you, obviously, but for the receiver it is! The gift coupon itself will look nice and important, we are putting extra efforts on that!

This will be a very good way to promote the program and easy way to donate memberships, if you so wish. And yes, of course your referral link will work with the system, so each new member who joins the program via the coupon you have sent out will be placed into your down line!

E-bullion will be added in about a week, so you may choose between two e-currency when you join. This has been a very often requested addition!

One new site into the member area will be added also, and it will include all the Incentives and other possible files. So, in the near future you don't have to browse the forum to find the e-books and other files but you can just click a link in the member area and access all of them easily. The development shouldn't take more than a week.

The New web design is going to replace the current very dry and boring one. We start working on it on the next Saturday. I don't know the time frame just yet, but the estimation is two weeks, maybe three.

It will be fresh, colourful and inviting. Also, my very personal desire is to make it look "chewable", meaning that every new visitor wants to bite and munch the site. It's not meant to be boringly business design, but something positive, light and motivating.

We are getting there a little by little where we should have been a year ago! It's a pity some members won't qualify for the Compensation because of the delays, but that's life. Some of them would have been dropped out anyway because of the age. (I can't make this sound the way I want, but I am sure you understand me). Let's hope they are working for the program and earning Loyalty Program Rewards instead!

I think that's all for now! - Stella"

Summary

* Member Counter : 8490

Posted by: ewealth Jun 27 2006, 06:18 AM

The DDos attacks have been a big concern. It is good to see the GPP is willing to go the extra mile and get them fixed. Hopefully, just a few more months to hit the 100,000 mark.

Posted by: sagomez Jun 29 2006, 04:34 AM

Summary

* Member Counter : 8547

Posted by: melinie246 Jul 1 2006, 06:11 AM

I think once we reach the 10,000 mark, exponential growth will take over and the next 90,000 places will be filled very quickly.

Posted by: ewealth Jul 1 2006, 10:33 AM

I agree. Since the Ddos attacks have stopped (just in the past few days) we have seen a nice growth in sign ups.

New Count: 8562

Posted by: dibango Jul 2 2006, 03:45 AM

I agree too, will join very soon

Posted by: ConsultantsCircle Jul 4 2006, 05:41 AM

How people are so generous on the internet. Have you realised that?

Posted by: sagomez Jul 5 2006, 10:22 PM

Summary

* Member Counter : 8686

Posted by: bullion Jul 8 2006, 07:02 AM

how is this doing, I have seen it in other places. is our money safe?

Posted by: sagomez Jul 15 2006, 12:37 AM

Time will tell

Summary

* Member Counter : 8900

Posted by: shiraz Jul 15 2006, 12:40 PM

I have asked an acquantaince to look at it who is in the 'premium finance' arena.

I was on one of the calls for the insurance agents to learn more about a particular company's programs, but most of the talk was WAY over my head! Their program targeted people with 1 MIL or more in assets and there was no outlay for the insured, but the banks had all the fun and the insured and/or his survivors would make a packet.

So it sounded similar to the explanations for GBP. But where is the DD? Who is Stella? And do the Big Boys allow this sort of pooling in a program like this? Many questions as to the legitimacy.

If they are truly offshore, it wouldn't be too difficult to set up a real office with even phone support.

Sure, at $35 it is a low risk, but if you are spending time promoting it, then there is the risk of wasted time as well. How do you value your time?

Be good to see more DD and plans for how they are really going to distribute that much money. Via debit card? Is that card solid enough? What will be your tax liabilty on that?

Also they have suffered the DDOS attacks already and those will continue, so where is the security for the website and maybe if it IS real, why aren't they more private?

For example, goldclaim.net has a good system for privacy, but still allowing referals with special referral codes, as does udachuinvest.com. So for now, GBP does look like a fancy HYIP.

One person here is sponsored by Boulat, does anyone have DD on him? Does he know the admin?

Many questions.. Even though it is low risk at $35, to blindly refer people to it if it doesn't check out, doesn't make it more acceptable as there is the possiblity of assisting a scammer to take $3.5 Mil.. and that is a lot of money, even if only $35 per person.

Posted by: stine Jul 16 2006, 07:16 AM

I wholly concur with the below comments. Another concern is why they don't submit refunds to

those members that decide to abandon the venture. Anyone would agree there is alot of work

the needs to be done inorder to elevate the status if not credibility of gpp. All in all, I wish us all

well into the future.

Posted by: mrgames Jul 16 2006, 09:50 PM

well Had to take a chance too I´ve been scammed before and the money could be worth it

Posted by: pamelasue Jul 18 2006, 12:26 PM

For the price, I think that it is well worth the risk, to take a chance with this one!
Heaven knows, I have lost much more to scammin admins with much lower returns!

Posted by: goldxtrade Jul 19 2006, 06:44 AM

100,000 members, and they're sitting at around 8,000....

Whew... Gonna be a while I think...

Posted by: crave681 Jul 22 2006, 08:33 AM

july22, 9100 members now, yes it could be a while, so keep promoting. hopefully the new site will be more attractive too.

Posted by: wwind3 Aug 11 2006, 03:24 AM

Hi-just found the forum-is there an ongoing discussion re: Global Pension Plan? I am thinking of joining but was wondering what the latest news is?

Posted by: enigma Aug 11 2006, 05:19 PM

gonna wait until it reaches some number closer to 100,000

Posted by: melinie246 Aug 11 2006, 08:02 PM

LOL. Funny but have to admit it's a pretty good strategy. You can have your $35 working somewhere else, earning you more money than sitting in GPP for months or maybe years. Now, why I didn't think of that.

Posted by: sagomez Aug 11 2006, 08:03 PM

Member counter has reached 9500 and growing. Got that figure from an inside source. Not sure why the member counter was removed from the site though.

Posted by: prepaidlegal Aug 11 2006, 09:53 PM

I promoted the heck out Globalpensionplan.

I mean Safelists and trafficexchanges.

Even some dialing for dollars..
Tough program to get signups in.
I have built downlines before but this one is something.

Posted by: wwind3 Aug 12 2006, 02:50 PM

I joined Global Pension-waiting for e-gold acct to get funded. I joined a similar prog in '99---still trying to fund out--may be getting close--if it does--I will be pleased--if it doesnt i'm out prob a total of 100 bucks and some time. I would promote this as a gamble-if it pays off you get a LOT of return--if not---well-it's a cheap green fee at the local golf course for me--heck--i lost 25 bucks on the links last week. ....And I've spent a WHOLE lot more on a bad date--and got a lot less ... I bet there are a lot of people on this forum who have lost a lot more than 30 Euro on various "investments" Anyway--I'm in like a second story burglar on this one Regards to all....

Posted by: enigma Aug 12 2006, 04:08 PM

probably because most everyone would wait for the counter to reach 99,000 before they sign up

Posted by: wwind3 Aug 14 2006, 07:07 AM

I think everyone should get in asap and let's try to conclude this deal. If everyone waits for everyone else to get in--no one will get in and it'll never payout. If the 10000 members were to get 2 more and they would get 2 more ,etc--it would fill up pretty fast.

It wont be the first or last "scam" promoted on this site as far as I can tell. Note to program administrators--maybe you could drop the 35 dollar debit card fee until we get to 100,000 members--then have everyone get their cards then. Might speed things up--those who want to fund their cards now---fund them first. Just a thought.

Or maybe--say the first 50000 members get an extra 5000 bucks payout--or maybe more referral fees, etc. There are incentives to speed this up...

Posted by: dejaquack Aug 14 2006, 08:58 AM

hummmm.....

Posted by: sagomez Aug 15 2006, 08:45 AM

From Stella:

"Dear Members,

"It's sad to notice the negative atmosphere on our Forum! It has changed dramatically recently.

The truth is that we won't ever finish this program if we don't change the attitude! No big goal has ever been achieved with negative thoughts and attitude. None, never!

Our goal is big enough to motivate being nice, polite and positive, right?! This doesn't mean you shouldn't contribute the forum if you have something to say, but it means that please say it another way around. And be nice. No one of us has deserved to be treated or answered with enmity and arrogance. If you can't say it nicely, then don't say it at all, please!

The fact is that I am going to block the access to the forum if the attitude is not changed! Not to prevent you from discussing our program, but to prevent the negative attitude from taking us down and destroying the great program." - Stella

The member count has grown to: 9,695

Posted by: crave681 Aug 15 2006, 12:18 PM

Aug15 2006.... 9715 members.... slow but steady growth. By Sept we will see 10,000 and hopefully start gaining a little more momentum.

Posted by: MoneyElite.com Aug 15 2006, 08:40 PM

Anyone has information or DD done?
Up till now, no one has the answer to GPP & Stella.

Posted by: michael2 Aug 21 2006, 11:02 AM

How many members are there currently in GPP ? I can not see it displayed on the website anymore. Where can I find that information ? Is it in the members area for members only or where ?

Posted by: wwind3 Aug 22 2006, 02:01 PM

9949 members--it is in the member's area....

Posted by: optimist1419 Aug 22 2006, 02:34 PM

Thanks, I was looking for it also.

Posted by: sagomez Aug 24 2006, 06:45 AM

Stella's latest Forum Post: 20 August 2006:

"Dear Members,

I had a conversation with a member of the Trust Partner during the last weekend. He expressed the huge worry the Trust Partner and the insurance company have concerning the sign up speed. The original idea was to reach the target in just a few months, but because of all the technical problems and attacks from outside the site has been down for long periods, so we have reached just 1/10 of the members we need. And we have been online for 15 months.

He told me to put some pressure on the members so that we would reach 20,000 members landmark by October this year. I know that might sound like a huge task, but thing about this: we have about 10,000 members at the moment, so each of us need to sponsor just one new member in a month to reach that goal. Is that possible? Of course it is! You can do it, I can do it, we all can do it! The easiest way to do it is to donate the membership.

Please understand, that if we don't reach 20,000 by October, it won't stop this program. Of course not. However, it would convince these two parties that we are serious and want to take some trouble reaching it and building the program for the benefit of us.

And as we all know, the sooner we can close the doors, the more obvious it is we are going to reach the target. The longer we are online, the bigger the threat someone tries to destroy us. And of course, the sooner we reach the target, the sooner we can start spending the money!

So, are we going to do it?

I just signed up my homeopath, so I can tell you it's not that difficult to sponsor one new member in a month. And she even paid for the membership herself, I didn't have to donate it. Smile

Please let your down line know about this!

Thank you! - Stella"

The MEMBER COUNT has grown to: 9,930

Posted by: wwind3 Aug 24 2006, 12:25 PM

9993 MEMBERS NOW!---Is today the day---10,000

Posted by: wwind3 Aug 24 2006, 05:41 PM

[We are NOW at 10000!!!

Posted by: BIG SMILE Aug 25 2006, 06:32 AM

This is GREAT NEWS

SPECIAL NEWS FLASH to all Global Pension Plan members.

I'm so happy to be able to share with all our great members the exciting news that we have reached the 10,000 member level!

Reaching the 10,000 member mark is an important and significant milestone in the history of Global Pension Plan.

Why? Because now we have a large enough membership to really make a huge impact in realizing everyone's dreams of earning that $55,000 (plus all those extra Loyalty Reward bonus dollars) before the year is out.

Reaching that magical 100,000 membership number should now be an easy task, because all you need to do is sponsor just one member, and when you sign up just one person with your GPP referral link, this will earn you an extra $2,000.

WOW...do you realize what a great business you can turn this into, because when you sponsor one person, who buys a 30 EUR (~$38 USD) membership, you earn $2,000! Sure beats an 8-hour day at the office!

Get ready everyone, because now is the time for all GPP members to work together as a worldwide team, to make a commitment to sponsor at least one new member between now and the end of September, because when we do this, we all help each other.

And there's only ONE RULE for getting your ONE person.

The ONE person you sponsor into the Global Pension Plan must be a person who will sponsor ONE person through their GPP referral link, and the ONE person this new person sponsors, must sponsor ONE person through their GPP referral link and so on, because this simple duplication will fulfill the membership goal.

The really GOOD NEWS is that the above model only needs to be passed down just 9 levels before the Global Pension Plan will have reached its maximum membership goal of 100,000 members.

And there's more good news! With the above simple model, you will have earned yourself an extra $18,000 (minimum), for sponsoring just your ONE new member because this travels down 9 levels, each level earning you $2,000.

Don't forget, when you sponsor someone, who sponsors someone who is a go-getter marketer, you stand to earn MUCH more than just $18,000 because the Loyalty Rewards earnings go down 12 levels.

Here's an interesting thought....when you sponsor your one member on Monday, who sponsors their one member on Tuesday, who sponsors their one member on Wednesday....etc. it will only take nine days to fulfill the 100,000 membership goal.

Can we do this? Absolutely, YES we can!

Here's all you need to do:

Sponsor your ONE new member and make sure YOUR new member agrees to sponsor THEIR one new member.

And for you members who want an even easier way to do your part, how about buying just 9 memberships through the Gift Coupon feature and giving them away as early holiday presents. You will have spent 270EUR (approximately $342). and will make back $18,000. What a deal...a great present for your friends and family who will earn their $55,000. pensions, and a incredible present to yourself, too!

OK, everyone...start your engines and get thinking about who YOUR one new member will be, because the race is on!

Don't forget, the ONE RULE is that you will sponsor your ONE person only if they agree to sponsor THEIR one person, etc., etc. (unless you decide to Gift your nine memberships).

Let's see the year 2006 go out with a loud bang and much happy partying by all Global Pension Plan members!

from "THE BIG SMILE"
Thanks "GPP" 10,000 members onboard
You are my favorite online site:

Posted by: muscle_girl Aug 26 2006, 01:29 PM

I personally plan on sponsoring at least 5 people that I know in the next month.

I want to challenge everyone who is here at MMG and already on board with this program to bring on at least one more person. This would be absolutely incredible if we could finish up by October!

Does anyone have any sponsorship ideas or recruitment ideas?

Thanks for your input and for all your help keeping this program near the top of the list here at MMG!

Posted by: stilltrying Aug 26 2006, 06:07 PM

If everyone that is in would just "pay-it-forward" for one person (using the coupon system in place) and ask them to do the same then we would be at 100,000 members within a week!

Posted by: BIG SMILE Aug 28 2006, 09:15 AM

HI Muscle Girl:

I agree, I will push for one or two new members next month.

LET'S see who will be the first to get their members in:

RULE: first one to post their two is the winner.

Posted by: sagomez Aug 29 2006, 05:16 AM

Update from Stella: 28 August 2006:

"SPECIAL NEWS FLASH to all Global Pension Plan members.

I'm so happy to be able to share with all our great members the exciting news that we have reached the 10,000 member level!

Reaching the 10,000 member mark is an important and significant milestone in the history of Global Pension Plan.

Why? Because now we have a large enough membership to really make a huge impact in realizing everyone's dreams of earning that $55,000 (plus all those extra Loyalty Reward bonus dollars) before the year is out.

Reaching that magical 100,000 membership number should now be an easy task, because all you need to do is sponsor just one member, and when you sign up just one person with your GPP referral link, this will earn you an extra $2,000.

WOW...do you realize what a great business you can turn this into, because when you sponsor one person, who buys a 30 EUR (~$38 USD) membership, you earn $2,000! Sure beats an 8-hour day at the office!

Get ready everyone, because now is the time for all GPP members to work together as a worldwide team, to make a commitment to sponsor at least one new member between now and the end of September, because when we do this, we all help each other.

And there's only ONE RULE for getting your ONE person.

The ONE person you sponsor into the Global Pension Plan must be a person who will sponsor ONE person through their GPP referral link, and the ONE person this new person sponsors, must sponsor ONE person through their GPP referral link and so on, because this simple duplication will fulfill the membership goal.

The really GOOD NEWS is that the above model only needs to be passed down just 9 levels before the Global Pension Plan will have reached its maximum membership goal of 100,000 members.

And there's more good news! With the above simple model, you will have earned yourself an extra $18,000 (minimum), for sponsoring just your ONE new member because this travels down 9 levels, each level earning you $2,000.

Don't forget, when you sponsor someone, who sponsors someone who is a go-getter marketer, you stand to earn MUCH more than just $18,000 because the Loyalty Rewards earnings go down 12 levels.

Here's an interesting thought....when you sponsor your one member on Monday, who sponsors their one member on Tuesday, who sponsors their one member on Wednesday....etc. it will only take nine days to fulfill the 100,000 membership goal.

Can we do this? Absolutely, YES we can!

Here's all you need to do:

Sponsor your ONE new member and make sure YOUR new member agrees to sponsor THEIR one new member.

And for you members who want an even easier way to do your part, how about buying just 9 memberships through the Gift Coupon feature and giving them away as early holiday presents. You will have spent 270EUR (approximately $342). and will make back $18,000. What a deal...a great present for your friends and family who will earn their $55,000. pensions, and a incredible present to yourself, too!

OK, everyone...start your engines and get thinking about who YOUR one new member will be, because the race is on!

Don't forget, the ONE RULE is that you will sponsor your ONE person only if they agree to sponsor THEIR one person, etc., etc. (unless you decide to Gift your nine memberships).

Let's see the year 2006 go out with a loud bang and much happy partying by all Global Pension Plan members!

Regards,
Stella and the Team"


The MEMBER COUNT has grown to: 10,172

Posted by: thumper Aug 29 2006, 08:48 AM

Has anyone actually done any REAL DD on this one?

I invested here well over a year ago and it seems that nobody has bothered to do DD? (maybe someone has) Please let us know if you have!

If we all knew this was indeed solid and we had good DD to go on, then we would have been at 100k members a year ago IMO..

Posted by: Mstica Aug 29 2006, 05:04 PM

I don't think they're too keen on releasing the kind of DD info
we'd be interested in. I've asked them several times about DD,
and the reply is always the same. A few members have done
DD but the information is private.

What use is it to the rest of us if the DD done is private.?

Posted by: matratzac Aug 29 2006, 07:34 PM

Agreed.

Posted by: fob9fob Aug 31 2006, 04:39 AM

Invested here, let's hope it goes well.

Posted by: BIG SMILE Aug 31 2006, 02:00 PM

Think for just a minute, there are too many people joining this awesome team! Why
You ask me? Is it because too many people are waiting for a closer number? Nope!
Is it because no one has the fund to join? Nope!
Is it because they can earn $2000 just for referring a friend or relative
without jumping thru loops? Nope!

The true reasons so many people are joining this awesome team is that they have figure
it out that if they join this group with (a one time payment of less than $40 USD). They can
begin referring others and building a strong network to help others.

They also realize that with a little more effort they will move up to another
level that allow them to participate in giving a donation to charties (1,000,000 USD).

If you real think about this group effort and how important it is to complete the task of
bring in members. You would first need to look at the profits available in your membership area.

#1. (500% just for referring your friends equals $2000 USD and
#2. (1,375% profit you will gain for that one-time payment of less than $40 USD).
equals $55,000 dollars.)
WHERE ON THE INTERNET CAN YOU DO THAT TODAY! Answer:GPP.

Over 10,300 people have figure this out today! Let me stop here because
I have figure this out myself, too. Think one more time if you sponsor just
yourself to this awesome team. That grand prize of $55,000 would pay your
high utility bills, plus monies to send you or a child to college...

So, take as long as you want to make your decision. The growth of GPP
is moving everyday, check it out!

"Let Reach Others."
BIG SMILE
9/01/06

http://globalpensionplan.net/?id=dixoncircle06
http://fantasticpay.com/index.php?id=dcircle06
http://www.daily-payday.com/index.php?id=6164

Posted by: camzio Aug 31 2006, 02:04 PM

i want to earn a nice pension here

Posted by: P420 Sep 1 2006, 01:09 PM

Does anyone know if this Global Pension Plan program is for real??? How many members are already enrolled, and how long do you think it will take to reach the target of 100,000 members?? I would appreciate anyone's input. Thanks in advance.

Posted by: BIG SMILE Sep 2 2006, 08:24 PM

Hi P420

This one of the longest lasting program on the internet, you need to get in.

There are 28 people signing up every single day, you could be the 29 person.

I have been in the HYIP's Programs and in some of the online investment program, yet GPP
has out lasted them all.

I am in a program right now that cost me $70.00 up front and this program will pay out at least a
$1000,00 per month, yet I still think it is well worth the monies that I spent to profit a $1000.00
dollars in 35 days. So, no matter what program you are in there is always SOME risk.

Finally, Let say you go to your neighborhood bank deposit $35.00 dollars into a saving account which pays
1.45% annually how long will it take you to earn $55,000 dollars in that account. Maybe 2 lifetime???

If you are participating in any online program like the one I mention above use the profit that you make to get in on Global pension plan. That way it cost you nothing!

"Let's Reach Others."

BIG SMILE "FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN"

Posted by: enigma Sep 2 2006, 10:46 PM

looking for answers to similar questions too.
how the heck does $35 pay that much? can this amount, $35, be enough to buy a policy worth $200k? the risk might be low but the payoff to the admins (in the event they are shady) is dam high ($3.5 million)

Posted by: wwind3 Sep 3 2006, 12:49 AM

1) the $30 Euro is to open a bank account which gives you a debit card to access your funds. It is not to pay for a 200K policy

2) The policy is being purchased for you and everyone else. You will sell your policy for $55000 which has a face value of $120,000.

3) The group that buys your policy will collect 120,000 at maturity which is 67 years for the original owner-which is you

4) It is called an endowment policy and is legally bought and sold this way worldwide--Google it and you will find entities that do this.

5) Yes--it could not be for real--yes you may lose your $30---how much have you lost already on various internet ventures. I know the theory is sound-and I will gladly "gamble" $30 to find out--and if it doesnt pay off I'll never look back--it was worth the gamble to me--

6) Hope this helps. Any more questions I will try to help.

7) My id is wwind3 if anyone wishes to join under me.

Posted by: scpk95 Sep 3 2006, 03:25 AM

Where does GPP invest money 100,000 x $35 = $3,500,000
to pay off 100,000 x $55,000 = $5,500,000,000 ??? IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!..........IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!

Posted by: wwind3 Sep 3 2006, 03:38 AM

Once More-GPP is not investing the $35--ALL the $35 is is to open YOU up an offshore banking account with a debit card to access your funds. Please read the plan on the GPP website. ALL you are getting is an account to access your funds when the program pays out-thats what the $35 is for--nothing else. It's like opening up a checking or debit card or Visa acc't--has nothing to do with the program other than giving you an account for them to place your money in when it pays out.

Posted by: wwind3 Sep 3 2006, 04:03 AM

Here's how program works.--I think

1)----An endowment policy is purchased FOR YOU in a face amount of $200,000 --YOU dont purchase it.
2) Policy matures at age 67 and is worth $200K to the owner of the policy--which is the entity that purchased it from YOU> You dont own it.
3) The entity pays an AVERAGE cost of $41000 each for the 100,000 policies. For someone who is 5 yrs old--maybe a 200,000 policy costs 10,000-for a 60 yr old--maybe 100,000--avg is estimated to be 41000. They all mature at age 67 of the original owner and will be worth 200K.
4) Entity buys the policy for $41K FOR YOU--then buys it FROM YOU for $55k
5)---Entity puts aside $24 K per policy to cover the $2000 referral fees thru 12 levels.
6) Entity has invested $41K+$55K+$24K====$120,000in EACH of the 100,000 policies which they NOW own since they bought them from us for $55K each.
7) These policie are worth $200,000 EACH for the 100,000 policies at maturity which is age 67 based on the ages of the original owners. If the original age of the original owner was 5yrs-it matures in62 yrs-if the age of the original owner is 60-it matures in 7 yrs etc.
8) The entity who NOW owns ALL the policies has invested $120k in each policy--they get $200 K per policy at maturity--a profit of $80 K per policy x 100,000 policies.
9)---Endowment policies are actively bought and sold like stocks, bonds, etc on the open market-The entity can sell them if they wish at whatever price they can get--they can use them as collateral I guess for loans etc.
10)--Hope this explains how it works--i think i am accurate in my description.
11)--Your loss exposure is $30 Euro PLUS possibly postage to send in the requested ID forms at a later date.
Sending them by courier overseas somewhere might cost 35-50 bucks--dunno about that. But that should be about all you will be out if it doesnt pan out.

Posted by: BIG SMILE Sep 3 2006, 01:46 PM

Here is my noble answer to your question? Let's use this for an example: You have your car insured each month paying $35.00 per month. (that very cheap!) thru a big name insurance company. You have an accident the insurance company pays the accident off say $10,000 dollars your $35.00 dollars payment now was insured for that accident at $10,000 dollars. Hope you understand my simple reasoning:


Speaking of the count GPP has 10,443 members as of today

Posted by: wwind3 Sep 3 2006, 03:15 PM

aaaaarrrrgggghhhh!----The ONLY thing you are "buying" for your $35 is the banking connection--you are NOT buying a policy of any kind-THAT is bought FOR You. The $35 ONLY gets you an offshore account with a debit card to access your funds-which will be deposited into your account by the entity when the program funds.

Posted by: IWannaBRich Sep 5 2006, 01:34 PM

have you??? if you are so worried about it, then you should have done your DD before investing. good, bad, or otherwise, i tend to be a follower. if one of my trusted cohorts tell me, "hey, try this..." i usually say okay. i do have faith in this one, though.

i, too, have done a lot with hyip's, games, and surfing... and it's worth the gamble for me, also. i paid it forward for my downline, also, and as i can afford it, i will continue to do so. it is so worth it to me. if it turns out scam... than whatever. i would have lost it someplace else. but if it's the real deal... i'm out of the whole industry forever. we are not that far in debt, although we do have some. but i am about to have our 4th baby, and would LOVE for this to come to fruition. i have faith... and the membership seems to be growing faster now since the 10,000 mark. (i paid for my person after the 10,000th) so i think it would be awesome if we closed this deal before the end of the year! JMHO

btw... we are now at 10,565!!!

Posted by: Gecko7 Sep 5 2006, 02:23 PM

@wwind3:
This is the best decription I have seen and I´m in this one since a long time.
But what always seems to be missing in these scenarios is: where do they get all the initial funds to invest 100.000 times 120.000? Somebody said they take a loan. Then they constantly have to pay a lot of interest for that?!

Posted by: wwind3 Sep 5 2006, 03:38 PM

Yep-that part is hard to understand----but if they are a large insurance company they probably could handle the 12 billion cost---esp if they can score a profit of 8 billion. I personally think they already have a pretty good idea that they can sell the cotracts on the open market for a substantial profit
Endowment policies are bought and sold like any other financial instrument--esp in Britain, Europe, etc.

They prob could get a short term loan to fund the contracts and then turn around quickly and sell the contracts at a profit--maybe not get 80,000 per policy but even 20,000 per policy is a quick 2 billion profit. Thats prob why it is being done all at once--the funding and the requirement for 100,000 members, etc. It's probably all figured out. They prob already have a buyer,.

Posted by: enigma Sep 6 2006, 06:42 AM

if that is so, then where they get the $ to buy the policy or whatchamacallit?

Posted by: wwind3 Sep 6 2006, 01:27 PM

Problem with egold. Due to hacking the egold signup feature has been stopped. To the lady who tried to send me a PM--I cant reply to those yet-not enough posts. I guess ebullion is still available

They are working on a fix for the egold problem-I'm sure Stella or someone will keep this forum up to date.


Uhhh---I dunno-I do know in programs of this type that secrecy is of paramount importance. I wish we had those answers too-might speed things along--but with all the hacking probs we are having I guess I can see the secrecy aspects of this.

Posted by: wwind3 Sep 7 2006, 06:00 AM

Re: e gold problem---looks like they are setting up another funding site that will still use egold but will be more secure....Stand by. You will also need a link to enter the site--ie: your referral's website--not just his ID.. You may click on mine if you wish.

Also--I cant reply to your personal emails yet--have to have 25 posts----question to the admins---can I do several posts with no real info just to get to my 25 and then delete them. Dont wanta transgress but I have had a couple PM's I cant reply to.

Posted by: BIG SMILE Sep 9 2006, 02:36 AM

Still growing, and growing!! This weekend count is 10,600

BIG SMILE

Posted by: enigma Sep 9 2006, 05:49 AM

not too sure if that was the sort of answer i was expecting

Posted by: cchristos Sep 10 2006, 01:27 AM

just 2 questions, since i am confused.
1)is this closed to new members?
2)we will recieve the card and returns only when they got 100.000 members?
(cause if this is correct the people this could be the biggest scam again. Come on i believe you have the brains to figure this out. when these guys gets 35*100.000=3.5K why on earth should he pay us back? and something else, we must provide our real id, so another woring matter.....
just some thoughts which need clarifications)

Posted by: IWannaBRich Sep 11 2006, 04:18 PM

1) no it is not. the site was slow in new members for a few days, but it is picking back up again... it is now @ 10,634
2) key words are COULD BE. not nessesarliy, though. ya know, nothing ventured nothing gained. i believe it's a calculated risk that i have chosen to take. and in the end, no matter what happens, i'm glad i did. and if it pays off like i hope it will, i know of 100,000 people who will be extremely happy that they did too!

Posted by: wwind3 Sep 12 2006, 02:31 AM

Note to all---looks like the new payment method is now up on the GPP site---it is 1Mdc--replacing e-gold. Maybe this will speed things up some...

Posted by: wwind3 Sep 12 2006, 06:37 AM

OOOPS!--Looks like the IMdc signup feature is not active yet---stand by
-

Posted by: IWannaBRich Sep 12 2006, 07:02 AM

what is IMdc?

EDIT: ah, nevermind... i found it. you can check it out here... http://www.1mdc.com/

Posted by: nedux Sep 14 2006, 05:54 AM

I think this one has a bright future

Posted by: cchristos Sep 15 2006, 10:42 PM

i believe it's a calculated risk........
Thats was the intension of my original post, i want to take calculated risks , not to be calculated scammed......
anyway this is my opion so i dont want to mess up the thread any more i hope you all to get you money and my opinion to be wrong after all.
Time would tell

Posted by: IWannaBRich Sep 16 2006, 08:37 AM

that's cool... good luck.

we are now @ 10,951! we should be @ 11,000 by the end of the weekend!

Posted by: wwind3 Sep 16 2006, 11:39 AM

uhhhhh---so you are concerned about being scammed out of 30 Euro? Why are you browsing HYIP forums?Hell it costs me 50 bucks to fill up my gas tank...We probably all have invested a lot more for a lot less potential payout. This is chicken feed...
The largest forum in this group is scams. Has anyone here netted over ($55K) with the same investment? Just curious.... Good luck to you....but I'm in this one...

Posted by: IWannaBRich Sep 17 2006, 07:55 AM

we are @ 10,975!!! and still early on sunday morning, (for me, anyway... and i guess it's my timezone that i'm counting on to getting to 11k by the end of the day... )

Posted by: teven Sep 17 2006, 08:29 AM

keeping patience can leed u to grt more money

Posted by: IWannaBRich Sep 18 2006, 06:30 AM

ha hah!!! i checked this morning... and are indeed at 11,004!!! we are over half way there... and if each of those ppl get 1 or 2 in... we can finish this thing!

Posted by: POAM Sep 18 2006, 06:51 AM

Can't find any blogs there recommed it, too low entry. beware..

hmh not everyone, i have build it up from the ground.

Posted by: IWannaBRich Sep 19 2006, 06:43 AM

i don't know wtf i was thinking! we are not over half way there. but we are certainly making headway, anyway.

Posted by: cchristos Sep 20 2006, 09:15 AM

well my friend this is under Investment Programs (Non HYIP).........
regarding your question why i browse HYIP forums? cause i wanna make money like everyone else in here.

i usually pay alot more when i go out just for coffee in my town than the petty 30 euros as you say, but as i previously posted i prefer to get them lost MYSELF rather than getting scammed.

i wish you and the rest of the guys in this program the best of lack.

Posted by: sagomez Sep 21 2006, 05:43 AM

The MEMBER COUNT has grown to: 11,033

Posted by: IWannaBRich Sep 21 2006, 06:36 AM

HOLY CRAP! in less than an hour it has grown to 11,226!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: P420 Sep 21 2006, 02:00 PM

Sounds like this program is doing well.......... ??

Posted by: menix Sep 22 2006, 08:25 AM

Is there any warranty of the paying plan?

Posted by: IWannaBRich Sep 23 2006, 06:48 AM

Posted by: IWannaBRich Sep 23 2006, 07:08 AM

good weekend everyone! we are now @ 11328... let's see how many we can get by the end of this weekend!

Posted by: caventou Sep 24 2006, 09:09 PM

30 EUROS is nothing for those who play hyips Let's march towards 100,000 members!

Posted by: IWannaBRich Sep 25 2006, 06:56 AM

YEEAAA! i agree with you! we are now @ 11393.

Posted by: onencgirl Sep 27 2006, 04:24 AM

Go GPP...

We're getting there.. keep the referrals coming!

Posted by: BIG SMILE Sep 27 2006, 04:37 AM

I know we can make it to 11,500 by the first of October

What a great pension plan!!! Go GPP Go!!!

Have a big smile on me

Posted by: IWannaBRich Sep 27 2006, 07:19 AM

WE ALREADY ARE!!! 11516!!!

Posted by: waynesgold Sep 27 2006, 09:09 PM

Ok what did you start with and how long did it take to get to 11500? Have you withdrawn any of the money yet? What is the method they use to increase your investment?

Posted by: IWannaBRich Sep 29 2006, 01:07 PM

well... this has been a year and a half... but the last 5000 ppl have signed up in the past 6 months... and it's been really steady for the last several weeks. we do NOT w/d money until we get to 100,000 ppl. THEN we will get our cut of the pension plan.

and... we are at 11,641!!!

Posted by: Venomlugz Sep 29 2006, 01:43 PM

mmmm I'm interesting in this.... but if i pay $35fee then would I recevic $55k? if yes, how long?

Posted by: onencgirl Sep 29 2006, 05:31 PM

Site must be down... I can't log in right now.

Posted by: wwind3 Sep 29 2006, 06:53 PM

Hi---yes you would get $55K plus 2000 for each person you refer to the program through 12 levels---program would pay out after we reach a total of 100,000 members. Hope this helps.

Posted by: enigma Sep 30 2006, 02:31 AM

actually its not so much losing the EUR30 but rather pointlessly enriching the admin. the way i see it, this is either going down as a great money making opp or a big scam

Posted by: wwind3 Sep 30 2006, 04:30 AM

yep--could go either way--as well as every other online "investment" program in the history of the net---most of which have probably not paid off. Lot have been scams.---prob most have been ponzi schemes, etc. We cant possibly know for sure--only the people who have started this know whether they are scamming the rest of us. I harken back to prob the oldest program of this type-the infamous E65--I got in in 1999--still hasnt paid out and I havent done anything with it since 2001 xcept read the periodic updates. Invested less than a hundred bucks total---admin alledge nearing completion--I'll believe it when I see it---IF it pays out I will not care whether this one ever pays out. Or any other program for that matter.

Posted by: waynesgold Sep 30 2006, 08:10 PM

Probably true, but if I get the right investment, or should I say re-investment instrument, I can make people money, 150% guaranteed on my artwork, which also sells for very nice profits on ebay, but i hate ebay and like e-gold better

Posted by: IWannaBRich Oct 1 2006, 07:45 AM

we are now at 11693! i am certain we will be at 12k by the end of the day here in PST! that's 1k in 2 weeks. we are getting there slowly but surely.

Posted by: IWannaBRich Oct 2 2006, 07:39 AM

okay... well it's monday morning... and the current counter is 11746. not bad for a weekend's work!

Posted by: onencgirl Oct 5 2006, 03:07 AM

One more day to Friday...

Posted by: IWannaBRich Oct 5 2006, 01:15 PM

yeah, and we're at 11918!!!!!!!!

Posted by: IWannaBRich Oct 7 2006, 07:27 AM

i guess i've become the (un)official counter keeper upper it's saturday morning, and we are at 11987!

Posted by: onencgirl Oct 7 2006, 12:32 PM

Let's make it 12,000 by tomorrow...

Posted by: cvkint Oct 7 2006, 06:54 PM

I too am a member of GPP, have any of you seen the site for Investment Capital Corp? I have done some DD on them and contacted one of their support staff... they claim to be doing very close to same thing as GPP, but they claim the numbers for GPP will never work.. I have to say after checking into them further they sure put up a good front.. I noted I am like in the first ten people to join them... the thing that really caught my attention was that they claim that their plan would be able to go forward with only 10k, people... which is less than have joined GPP already... feel free to do your own Due Dilligence, but they sure the right answers to the questions I asked... so I joined... I might pop over to the GPP forum and see if anyone else has heard of them..

Posted by: IWannaBRich Oct 8 2006, 09:04 AM

we are at 12010!

Posted by: littledoll Oct 9 2006, 05:57 AM

What is the link to Investment Capital corp.? I tried doing a search, but I couldn't find it.

Posted by: ifcsurf Oct 9 2006, 06:01 AM

ok thanks i will see it

Posted by: cvkint Oct 9 2006, 09:27 AM

Yeah we probably shouldn't hijack this thread sorry about that, I just thought as it was so close to GPP I'd ask... anyone want to start a new thread on it?

Posted by: wwind3 Oct 9 2006, 09:51 AM

I'm for a new thread or u could pm me with the link..


[b]name='cvkint' date='Oct 9 2006, 12:27 PM' post='2961308']
Yeah we probably shouldn't hijack this thread sorry about that, I just thought as it was so close to GPP I'd ask... anyone want to start a new thread on it?
[/quote]

Posted by: menix Oct 9 2006, 09:57 AM

GLOBAL PENSION PLAN
Scam, no office, no registered company, only a website.

Make a contract with no where man.

Posted by: menix Oct 9 2006, 10:20 AM

I`am shure you got all money back, after the period of ten years, because he couldn`t reach 100.000 members, ore any other reason and so GLOBAL PENSION PLAN had a credit of you without any interest, very clever

Posted by: cvkint Oct 9 2006, 12:19 PM

you know people like you are a very interesting group... is GPP a scam? Maybe, who knows... but to call them a scam based on your comments of no registered company, no office etc.. just really shows how little you know.

First of all there are many many business owners, I happen to be one of them that has a numbered or shell company that is the umbrella company and I do business under various names.. they are called (in Canada) DBA's or Doing Business As names. You could look and look until you went blue in the face for a registered company in some of the companies I run and you'd never find anything that does not make them a scam.

Secondly anybody that wants to can spend a thousand bucks or so and open and off shore corporation with an office address and a business cert, does that make them any more legal or legit? Your logic just totally escapes me..

I have no idea whether GPP or that other company I was told about ICC, are legit or will do what they say or not.. but for a lousy 35 bucks I'm not going to take the chance and missing out if they are...and I"m sure not goign to lose any sleep over 35 bucks if they aren't legit...

I don't have a problem with people doing Due Dilligence and sharing that info, but at least make it something worthwhile backed up with some facts other than spouting off for no reason.

I bet you're one of those people that IF GPP does pay off you're doing cry about that too, "oh I knew I should have got in on that one"

FYI I asked the contact guy at ICC point blank if they were just going to run off with 10k member's application fees of 35 bucks.. a pretty good sized chunk of money, about 350k, he said although he understood why I would ask that, the money they get as a finders fee for putting the deal together is worth way more than that to them.. plus if they pull it off the first time and make 10k people the lump sum payment he knows that everyone of those people would work with them again... so there is no logical long term move in running away with what is really a pretty small sum of money to any actual corporation...

Botton line you have to do what's right for you and your bank account... for me, 35 bucks in GPP and 35 bucks in ICC are very good low risk gambles.. the size of the possible pay out is just too good to pass up for such a small amount invested

Posted by: IWannaBRich Oct 9 2006, 03:09 PM

all of your points are well said... especially the last paragraph. my sentiments exactly!!!

Posted by: cvkint Oct 9 2006, 03:37 PM

Thanks... I didn't meant to preach.. but everybody has to do what's right for them.. and crapping on someone else just because it doesn't fit "their" risk threshold just seems so counter productive...

How does that old saying go?

There are three types of people: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened?

Posted by: wwind3 Oct 10 2006, 01:45 AM

Once more--please provide a link to the ICC program or stop talking about it..

Posted by: Panther2 Oct 10 2006, 02:53 AM

As a member of GPP, I too would like to learn more of ICC with a view to signing up for it.

So please can you post the link for ICC so those of us who are interested can take the process forward.

Posted by: menix Oct 10 2006, 08:17 AM

The reason why people like you will be scamed is that you want to be scamed.

Have you ever get a present in your life, I mean not something for birthday, you wana tell invest 35 $ and get thousands of more, are you 10 years old? Have you ever seen a Hyip working for years and have you ever earnd money in Hyip´s? So if you can`t answer with YES don´t tell me anything about it.

Hallo, wake up!

Not one $ i would invest, and it´s not only loosing the money, it´s is braking a hope, braking lifes.
In a few month`s we will so as always see the truth.

take care of You

Posted by: cvkint Oct 10 2006, 12:42 PM

I do feel sorry for you that your life is so bad and you are so angry with the world that you are always going to have this bitter chip on your shoulder.. it's no doubt talking to people like you is mentally draining as they are unable to see truth even when it's right on their doorstep...



Yes I have received many presents in my life, I should also point out to you as you seem unclear as to what we are dicussing, GPP is NOT a HYIP, I guess you live in some small little world where the only way to make money is to put it in your savings account and let the bank make thousands from all the people like you while they earn 10% 15% or more a month on your money then pay you 3% a year.. if you're lucky...

I don't invest in HYIPs because for the most part they ARE scams, no legitimate business can pay 5% or more a day for any length of time.

I have been involved in reverse mortgages and private placements and I make my living day trading, so perhaps you need to get out of the house more so you can learn about the various higher yield investments that are in the "REAL" world...



I can't say I fully understand what you are meaning here, I gather English is not your first language and I am not insulting you for that, I just am not 100% sure what your above comment means.

I clearly said in my last post people should NOT invest if it's not their cup of tea... I would think they would be crazy to do otherwise.. I was not asking or telling you to invest I was trying to open your eyes to how things actually do work out here in the financial world but your mind is clearly very tightly closed...

I can only imagine if you were the person that Alexander Bell came to when he invented the phone to get financing... all the while with you laughing at him saying Nobody is going to want to talk on a bunch of wires that will never work... we'll see in a few months what the truth is... sometimes my friend you need to have some vision and yes a leap of faith as well.



Yes we will and as I said previously if it's (either GPP or ICC) a scams so be it, I've made more than enough money in my life with investments that people like YOU said were scams... I don't claim to know everything but I know that 100% of the people that don't ever invest or ever take chance can never WIN. Pretty simple math really.

Take care,

Posted by: wwind3 Oct 10 2006, 01:37 PM

[size=7]WHERE IS THE LINK TO ICC? WHERE IS THE LINK TO ICC? WHERE IS THE LINK TO ICC?

Posted by: cvkint Oct 11 2006, 08:57 AM

Sorry about that, I didn't want to post a referral link in here, number one I am not sure if I'm allowed yet and number two I don't want to hi jack this thread so I'll see about starting a new thread...

Posted by: wwind3 Oct 11 2006, 09:17 AM

cool-

Posted by: P420 Oct 12 2006, 10:22 AM

So is GPP any closer to 100,000 members???

Posted by: wwind3 Oct 12 2006, 10:40 AM

Members are 12,222 at last count

Posted by: caventou Oct 13 2006, 06:22 AM

Invest from profits isn't that simple? Doesn't hurt that way....

Posted by: rewired Oct 13 2006, 10:15 AM

[size=1]COULD SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE ME THE LINK FOR ICC.
PM ME IF YOU HAVE TO.
THANKS

Posted by: atmcash Oct 13 2006, 11:28 AM

yes, give me the link for ICC.
pm me

THANKS

Posted by: wwind3 Oct 13 2006, 02:50 PM

Hi---here's a link

http://www.investmentcapitalcorp.com//register_referral.php?referral_id=41

Hi atmcash---here's a link

http://www.investmentcapitalcorp.com//register_referral.php?referral_id=41

Posted by: onencgirl Oct 13 2006, 03:07 PM

P420.... why do you ask if we are close to 100,000 members? If you were a member you would know!

Posted by: rewired Oct 13 2006, 07:33 PM

HEY
IWANTTOBERICH YOU THERE?

PM ME YOUR REF ID RE THE PM YOU SENT ME YESTERDAY

THANKS

Posted by: IWannaBRich Oct 14 2006, 10:33 AM

because he's fishing, i think... anyways, we are now @ 12357!

Posted by: cvkint Oct 14 2006, 03:15 PM

Hahahaha. good point... all it takes is a few bucks to see what the count is at, at the same time you help the count and have the shot at a nice payout...seems to make more sense than asking people the count all the time

Posted by: fredac2 Oct 15 2006, 10:09 PM

Program seems interesting. Decided to join todate.

Posted by: onencgirl Oct 16 2006, 03:29 AM

Welcome fredac2. You will be glad you joined here.

Posted by: IWannaBRich Oct 16 2006, 06:35 PM

YES, welcome! we are still continuing a slow but very steady growth. we are now at 12420.

Posted by: wwind3 Oct 18 2006, 02:37 AM

Anyone having a problem accessing the GPP site? I have not been able to get in for the last 24 hours..

Posted by: rewired Oct 18 2006, 07:45 AM

RE WEBSITE

APPARENTLY THEY ARE DOING SOME WORK ON THE SITE.
HOPEFULLY FINISHED IN THE NEXT WEEK. HANG IN THERE, EVERYTHINGS OK!

IN THE LIGHT

Posted by: IWannaBRich Oct 19 2006, 10:25 AM

i just accessed it just fine.

Posted by: wwind3 Oct 20 2006, 05:58 AM

Hi--for those of you in the ICC(Investment Capital Corp) program similar to GPP--just heard from the web admin. They are asking us to not sign anyone up till further notice,. Redoing the referral script-it isnt crediting our signups correctly plus they are changing the referral program a bit .

If anyone has signed up under me-let me know so I can make sure you are actually signed up. They say it may be 48 hrs before the programming is finished. my referral link ID# is 41 in ICC

wwind3

Posted by: P420 Oct 20 2006, 07:37 AM

So how many members does ICC have already? and how do you go about joining?

Posted by: wwind3 Oct 20 2006, 07:44 AM

Hi--not sure of # of members as site is being worked on--last count I saw in members area was 24. You may visit my referral link at
[edit] hijacking [/edit]
and join there but they have asked to not sign up for a couple days. Not sure why the website doesnt say that but admin told me that earlier. Redoing referral script, etc.

Posted by: jersey Oct 20 2006, 08:23 AM

Global Pension
members counter

12601


http://www.globalpensionplan.net/?id=jouaneau

Posted by: IWannaBRich Oct 20 2006, 09:13 AM

ah... heheh... you were too quick... i was just about to post the count!

Posted by: cvkint Oct 20 2006, 12:10 PM

Hey, I actually was just at the site and it does say not to join up right now.. some other info..sounds pretty good I wonder what the changes will be.

Any news on GPP? I haven't logged into the back office in a while.. still chugging along at a couple hundred members a month or so?

Posted by: wwind3 Oct 20 2006, 12:40 PM

They prob should post that on the site re: dont sign up for a while. They sent out emails to the members instead--dumb. One change I see--they are increasing signup fee to 39.95 USD but will pay 10.00 to you for every one u sign up. Not sure what else--other than the referrals are not being credited correctly.

GPP slowly increasing-Stella said there will be a big announcement first of month-maybe will speed things up.

Posted by: IWannaBRich Oct 20 2006, 02:41 PM

yep, cvkint... still chugging along slowly but surely! i hope the announcement will indeed speed things up. i still have a handful of ppl to sign up myself... just getting the funds together to do it. i've been quietly hoping that it would be nice to get this thing closed by the end of the year. but i know full well that it may not. we can only hope.

Posted by: wwind3 Oct 20 2006, 03:58 PM

ICC website has a statement on main page saying not to sign people up till further notice-they are working on the referral script and on tweaking the compensation a bit----stay tuned.
wwind3
[edit] hijacking [/edit]

Posted by: IWannaBRich Oct 21 2006, 09:07 AM

we're starting the weekend out @ 12603... how many can we get by the end???

Posted by: cvkint Oct 21 2006, 02:12 PM

Well it's steady growth and that's a good thing.. I guess in the back of my mind that's what appealed to me about the whole ICC thingy, they say they only need 10k members to go forward and GPP has over 12k now...now mind you GPP has been going at it since May 05 I think it is.. I thought if the GPP people hit ICC or the bulk of them it would fill up rather quick a couple of months and assuming all went well and it paid out etc..etc.. it would then make filling up whatever was needed to get GPP's goal of 100k that much easier...as those that didn't get into ICC would not want to miss out again, seems to me we need one of these type plans to close and pay to really motivate people.

Posted by: IWannaBRich Oct 22 2006, 05:39 AM

atmcash- i just sent you a pm.

Posted by: atmcash Oct 22 2006, 09:06 AM

Thank you IWannaBRich

Posted by: Nex Oct 22 2006, 11:02 AM

signup fee ?
well i never seen that before
srr im out

Posted by: wwind3 Oct 22 2006, 12:08 PM

Uhhhh---30 Euro fee in GPP includes an offshore banking arrangement including a debit card to access funds.
In ICC the 39.95 gives you access to their 12 yr experience in investing---their different programs--offshore info, etc.

Anyway---BUH-Bye

Posted by: 2cash Oct 22 2006, 03:41 PM

Not to worry about any profits early except for the loyalty matrix.

Posted by: zeal Oct 22 2006, 04:51 PM

Sorry but this program sounds like an MLM in disguise.
There is no evidence here about "pension" and it isn't explained
how basically you can earn $55,000 for free, since the signup cost
is only to cover administrative costs.

And if you think about it this way $35x100,000= $3,500,000
and how are they going to afford to pay $55,000x100,000 Members?
This just doesn't make any sense whatsoever, I think this is just a long
term scam.

Please express your views if you think I'm wrong.

Safe Investing,
Zeal

Posted by: wwind3 Oct 22 2006, 07:30 PM

Here's how program works.--I think

1)----An endowment policy is purchased FOR YOU in a face amount of $200,000 --YOU dont purchase it.
2) Policy matures at age 67 and is worth $200K to the owner of the policy--which is the entity that purchased it from YOU> You dont own it.
3) The entity pays an AVERAGE cost of $41000 each for the 100,000 policies. For someone who is 5 yrs old--maybe a 200,000 policy costs 10,000-for a 60 yr old--maybe 100,000--avg is estimated to be 41000. They all mature at age 67 of the original owner and will be worth 200K.
4) Entity buys the policy for $41K FOR YOU--then buys it FROM YOU for $55k
5)---Entity puts aside $24 K per policy to cover the $2000 referral fees thru 12 levels.
6) Entity has invested $41K+$55K+$24K====$120,000in EACH of the 100,000 policies which they NOW own since they bought them from us for $55K each.
7) These policie are worth $200,000 EACH for the 100,000 policies at maturity which is age 67 based on the ages of the original owners. If the original age of the original owner was 5yrs-it matures in62 yrs-if the age of the original owner is 60-it matures in 7 yrs etc.
8) The entity who NOW owns ALL the policies has invested $120k in each policy--they get $200 K per policy at maturity--a profit of $80 K per policy x 100,000 policies.
9)---Endowment policies are actively bought and sold like stocks, bonds, etc on the open market-The entity can sell them if they wish at whatever price they can get--they can use them as collateral I guess for loans etc.
10)--Hope this explains how it works--i think i am accurate in my description.
11)--Your loss exposure is $30 Euro PLUS possibly postage to send in the requested ID forms at a later date.
Sending them by courier overseas somewhere might cost 35-50 bucks--dunno about that. But that should be about all you will be out if it doesnt pan out.


Hope this helps a little but if not----buh=bYE

Posted by: 2cash Oct 22 2006, 08:45 PM

Only somebody who is very rich could afford to buy hundred thousand of endowment policies. I can see a nice profit margin while doing so. Using endowment policies as collateral to buy even more endowment policies
might be possible but would at some point rise a red flag on credit.

Posted by: cvkint Oct 22 2006, 09:09 PM

I agree with you totally but my understanding was both ICC and GPP are using a third party Venture Capital firm of some kind to handle the financing.. not that I fully understand how it all works, it's one of those things to me that I say you know what it's such a small amount I'd be stupid not to at least take a shot.

So what is everyone's feeling on the idea that GPP is now going to offer a $25. referral fee? I like the idea in some ways but in other ways it kinda ticks me off. I mean why wait until you have 12000+ members to make this choice.. what about the people that have promoted and brought so many people in unless they are planning make these payments back dated? I see ICC is offering to pay referral fees as well, they are smaller but they are doing if almost from the get go.. very interesting the course of these two programs.



You know you could very well be right they both ICC and GPP might just be long term scams.. one longer than the other haha.. but the point in my view is for such a small investment as stated it's just such a no brainer.. it's kinda like back when Microsoft was first going into business and issuing stock and people said, Personal Computers?? Why in the world would anyone want a computer at their house??? You just never know... IMHO

Posted by: zeal Oct 22 2006, 09:21 PM

I very much appreciate the length you went to explain this to me my friend, I really appreciate it.

By the sounds of it they are making money from our "head numbers", meaning the valid names
and documents that we have. I will still think about it this one and post here...

For now take care,
zeal

Yes it might be worth it to take a shot but soon I will know. But to have send documents to them
as well is kind of irritating, what if they misuse our ID's. Perhaps I'm being too negative.

Posted by: WealthyGold Oct 22 2006, 09:37 PM

for what its worth i asked them and they said they had 12,000 members so it will still be awhile b4 they reach 100,000

Posted by: wwind3 Oct 23 2006, 02:59 AM

Re:---misuse ID's---I too have some concerns about that--not sure how to resolve that in my mind either..

Posted by: cvkint Oct 23 2006, 05:25 AM

Well my belief was that neither one asks for the actual ID's until they are closed so not a concern right now but of all the issues surrounding these types of programs that idenity theft is one to be aware of.. I wonder what sort of safeguards one could take to make it less likely.

Posted by: zeal Oct 23 2006, 05:30 AM

Not sure, but I'm always more at ease when the website goes into great detail....

Posted by: wwind3 Oct 23 2006, 07:18 AM

UPDATED MEMBER COUNT---GPP= 12617
ICC= 43...

Posted by: sagomez Oct 25 2006, 05:37 AM

can you also provide the thread link to ICC, search ain't working - not sure if it is allowed to post thread links of another program in this thread, pm me then please

Posted by: IWannaBRich Oct 25 2006, 09:02 AM

we are at 12710!!! we could be at 13k by the end of the weekend!

Posted by: jersey Oct 25 2006, 11:35 AM

I wish people would stop talking and promoting another programs in this thread! Please stop
This is the Global Pension Plan thread where we are looking for for 100,000 members.
We are now at 12744,looking to steam roll soon-just need a few more members.At this point if we each add 3 or 4 members we are on the vurge of completing the task.Because when we reach 30-40,000 we are just about done.I know I can sign up 3 or 4 without them even knowing about it(100.00-150.00 out of pocket to get $55,000+ -no problem)

LETS KEEP IT GOING
Keep looking for more members

we can do it!!!!

Posted by: cvkint Oct 25 2006, 03:24 PM

I understand your point, but having said that I am a member of both programs, GPP and the one you don't want people to mention (you'll note I didn't mention it) the fact remains when both programs are pretty close in what they offer and one is almost 87,000 members away and one is under 10,000 members away it's pretty clear it's worth speculating what might happen to GPP if the smaller one fills first.. IMHO it would help GPP as people would then realize private placements like this can pay off... again you will note I"m not mentioning or promoting the "other" program here, but I think it's worth noting how they might help each other...

Posted by: wwind3 Oct 26 2006, 02:25 AM

Hi everyone----GPP site may be down for a while between now and NOV 5 to be reprogrammed to reflect the program changes.
They plan to increase the entry fees to $50 Euro and pay $20 Euro referral fees weekly for our 1st line direct referrals only--

member count is 12760

Posted by: zeal Oct 26 2006, 04:19 AM

What is this Referral fee mean? If someone becomes a referral they have to pay a fee or for referring someone you have to pay a referral fee?

Posted by: cvkint Oct 26 2006, 05:28 AM

You mean they plan to increase the MEMBERSHIP fee to 50 EUR?

That's kinda cheesy they bumping up the fees by almost the amount they say they are going to pay..so really nothing out of pocket... but I guess any referral fees will help motivate people.. we will see.

Posted by: wwind3 Oct 26 2006, 06:15 AM

ooops-- my bad---entry fee to program will be $50 and the people you sign up directly will get you $20 Euro each...

[b]

Yep--similar to the other program going from 30 to 40 and paying $10 I guess. We'll see--I have mixed emotions about the $50Euro--might scare off a few folks---dunno

Posted by: IWannaBRich Oct 26 2006, 08:50 AM

that's irritating, actually... but oh well... i will still be gifting my people. it'll just take a little longer.

Posted by: IWannaBRich Oct 27 2006, 06:23 AM

SPECIAL NEWS FLASH to all Global Pension Plan members.

I have some exciting news to share with you concerning a significant change that is about to happen at Global Pension Plan that I think you
will really like and which should help get our membership filled much faster.

Effective 5th November 2006 the current membership fee of 30 EUR (approx. 38 USD) will be increasing to 50 EUR (approx. 63 USD) for all new members.

WAIT...before you start screaming about the price increase...here's the GOOD NEWS...

ALSO, commencing 5th November 2006 we will start paying a new INSTANT REFERRAL BONUS of 20 EUR per new member (approx. 25 USD per referral) to anyone who joins in your First Level down line.

Why are we doing this? Simply because the Trust Partners and I appreciate everyone's time and hard work in getting this membership filled and want to reward you right now.

Therefore, we decided that the best way to give you a sign of good faith and let you know that we are serious about paying you is to provide this Instant Referral Bonus.

Please consider that this new change means that you only need to sign up 3 people in your First Level and you've already more than paid for your own membership.

Secondly, you will be able to use your Instant Referral Bonuses to buy Gift Coupons, if you wish.

Plus, don't forget, the new Instant Referral Bonus will be paid IN ADDITION to your 55,000 USD Compensations and IN ADDITION to the 2,000 USD per referral Loyalty Program Bonuses that you will all receive down all 12 Levels once the Plan is completed.

This change means, for instance, that right now, if three people joined using your referral link, you would earn 60 EUR (75 USD) the very next week, PLUS you would also receive 6,000 USD (2,000 USD per person) AND your 55,000 USD Compensation once GPP completes.

Instant Referral Bonuses will be paid once per week, between Monday and Wednesday the following week, so long as your request for payment is done by midnight Sunday, and will be paid ONLY to your 1mdc account (because of their efficiency and low fees), so if you haven't already set up a 1mdc account, you will want to do this right now
so that you're ready.

Go here to get a 1mdc account: http://www.1mdc.com

For those of you not familiar with 1mdc, your 1mdc account number will be the same as your e-gold account number, so if you don't already also have an e-gold account, you will need to sign up for one
BEFORE you sign up for your 1mdc account. [Go here if you need to "Create An Account" at e-gold: http://www.e-gold.com]

As well as providing your e-gold account number when you sign up for 1mdc, you will need to provide your initials, choose a password and
choose a 4-digit PIN for security.

The modified Members' area will have an easy to use withdraw request form so that once you have collected Instant Referral Bonuses you can either
request a withdrawal to your 1mdc account or use these referral bonuses to buy Gift Coupons.

Our technicians are working away trying to make sure that the new module for these changes is in place, totally tested and ready to launch on 5th November and if they run into any snags along the way, I will let everyone know.

I hope that you are all as excited about these changes as I am and you will let your contacts know that, commencing November 5th, every new person signed up in your First Levels from this date forward, until we reach 100,000 members and the program is closed, means you will receive your "instant 20 EUR referral bonuses for every new
member in your First Level."

Regards,
Stella and the Team

Posted by: wwind3 Oct 27 2006, 09:43 AM

Lot of chatter in the GPP forum--most are against the price increase and the egold/1mdc signup stuff, etc. Dunno how this will play out. I wasnt 2 happy about the price increase either. The $10 increase in the "other" program irked me a little--but it is manageable---when you compare $39.95 in that program with approx $63 for GPP now--I dunno---I wish both would drop the price increases..sigh.....

Posted by: cvkint Oct 27 2006, 09:55 AM

Hey I know I am not supposed to talk about the "other" program in here, but where did you see a $10 increase in ICC? When I joined it was $34.95 then it went to $39.95 and added the referral payments.. so that was only 5 bucks.. are you saying at some point the price was 29.95? I never saw that.

Posted by: wwind3 Oct 27 2006, 10:17 AM

---my bad----I paid $34.95--I got confused with GPP I guess and the 30 Euro I paid.

Posted by: cvkint Oct 27 2006, 01:38 PM

hahaha, ok you scared me there I was thinkin damn they went from 29 to 34 to 39 in a week.. what's next although i agree with you the five bucks is still an increase I just say fine you increased it 5 bucks but you're paying double that amount back in direct referrals so no big deal oh wait.. wrong thread I'll post this in the other thread.

Posted by: wwind3 Oct 29 2006, 05:25 AM

Hmmmm---the GPP forum in the GPP website is down---wonder whuzzup?

Posted by: cvkint Oct 29 2006, 06:14 AM

I just got an update saying they have changed their minds, there will be NO price increase and no referral bonuses... and they are taking the forum down due to negative people until further notice... now that is not a good sign.. I am having a harder and harder time seeing how this program is going to last until it has another 87,000 members...

Posted by: wwind3 Oct 29 2006, 07:05 AM

Yep--when they shut off dissent and take the attitude it's my way or the highway-I get nervous...the old E65 program finally did that too and 7 yrs later still havent funded and I dont think ever reached 100,000 members. Shut it down early. The "other" program is looking better altho I havent gotten my first referral bonus yet and no one will answer my emails. Prob just busy altho they only have 140 members approx.

UPDATE---just heard from the "other" program admin--the pm feature in their forum is inop--that is why I havent heard back--so----"never Mind" But--GPP also says that in the EU the referral bonuses they proposed are "illegal" so that is why they are being rescinded. Anyone know about this?

Posted by: cvkint Oct 29 2006, 08:25 AM

Well that's not too promising, I don't what E65 is you refer too... but I see it too was looking for 100k members that just seems so large to me... without a regular growth pattern it seems that would be a hard number to reach... not that it can't be done there are millions, tens of millions on the net...



I commented on what I found in my DD in the "other" thread

Posted by: wwind3 Oct 29 2006, 09:52 AM

E65 is the "grandfather" of these type programs--it was startted in 1999 and still hasnt funded. But allegedly we are getting close--lol---sending out the debit cards, etc. We'll see-if it pays-it will prob be the biggest bonanza in the history of the internet for these type programs.

Posted by: cvkint Oct 29 2006, 12:30 PM

Well if E65 does pay you can be sure that both ICC and GPP will fill up in days after that happens hahaha

Posted by: wwind3 Oct 29 2006, 12:57 PM

Yep--lol---as we say in the sunny South of the USA--we'll have enough money layin' around to burn a wet dawg

Posted by: 2cash Oct 29 2006, 02:55 PM

I can see this program expanding a bit, although the structure does not make sense to me.

Posted by: juztme Oct 29 2006, 03:39 PM

my opinion...this thing sounds funny.

Posted by: wwind3 Oct 29 2006, 03:45 PM

[your thing sounds funny too

quote name='juztme' date='Oct 29 2006, 06:39 PM' post='3078354']
my opinion...this thing sounds funny.
[/quote]

Posted by: cvkint Oct 29 2006, 05:02 PM

Hmmm something tells me that juztme is just posting to get his/her sig seen.. only 8 posts and not much of a post at that

Posted by: IWannaBRich Oct 30 2006, 08:39 AM

okay... weare now at 13005

Posted by: zeal Oct 30 2006, 08:51 AM

Hey guys when we reach 99,999 reserve me a slot LOL

Posted by: IWannaBRich Oct 30 2006, 10:42 AM

LOL! yeah, really! we are still quite a ways off... but steady growth, it has been so far... especially in the past couple of months.

Posted by: zeal Oct 30 2006, 12:30 PM

I wish that goal is met and that they keep their word for you guys, might hop on later but still very reluctant to give out all those documents, please be more careful, wouldn't want them to misuse any info of yours, the website isn't very convincing for me.

Posted by: cvkint Oct 30 2006, 02:17 PM

Exactly what info do you have to give out? Shouldn't be much really, it's not like they are doing a background check, just need to prove you're who you say you are... I've said it once I'll say it again, it might fall apart but for 35 bucks it's worth it to see.. you just never know.

Posted by: wwind3 Oct 31 2006, 03:16 AM

Hello everyone----Latest member count. ICC-165, GPP 13049
GPP website forum is still disabled.

Posted by: wwind3 Nov 2 2006, 04:23 AM

Program Updates-----GPP-13169 members, ICC-203.

Gpp forum still disabled--ICC is talking about a new marketing plan to speed up enrollments.

Posted by: ewealth Nov 2 2006, 01:15 PM

I'm not even able to get the main GPP page to come up. That is going to slow down the sign up process.

Posted by: wwind3 Nov 2 2006, 01:34 PM

just worked for me-sometimes you have to keep trying== happens to me too...


quote name='ewealth' date='Nov 2 2006, 04:15 PM' post='3100124']
I'm not even able to get the main GPP page to come up. That is going to slow down the sign up process.
[/quote]

Posted by: IWannaBRich Nov 3 2006, 07:34 AM

we are @ 13288, and ICC is @ 236! let's go, let's go, let's go!!!

Posted by: zeal Nov 3 2006, 07:53 AM

LoL i'm watching this silently

Posted by: cvkint Nov 3 2006, 10:48 AM

Hmmm you just posted into the thread how is that silently? I"m sure your keyboard made noise when you were typing....

Posted by: ewealth Nov 3 2006, 11:14 AM

Well, for now I guess I'll have to drop by here and check out the growth for GPP. I'm still having problems pulling up the main site.

Posted by: zeal Nov 3 2006, 11:20 AM

LoL I wish the best for everyone here and if all goes well myself too lol

Posted by: Panther2 Nov 4 2006, 01:54 PM

Hello,

As member of GPP I have not signed up anybody yet, but I would be grateful if any GPP members might be able to clarify the following 3 questions for me:

1: Can you advise me if when I give my GPP link to someone and they then click on it, can they then actually see the sign up option?

I’m asking because when I click on my own link I get a message saying invalid referral code, and it then gives me the option to login which I can do with out any problem, but once logged into the back office I can not see any “sign up� option shown. Which makes it difficult for me to talk someone else through the sign up procedure when I can not see it, or see what they are seeing.

2: & if so does show the sign up option when someone clicks on the link I give them, can you advise me if it requests that they enter their sponsor’s (my) email address as a mandatory field?

3: Just to be clear on the multilevel aspect of GPP, can you clarify if for example I were to refer 1 new sign up on my first level, and he in turn signed up 2 people, would I then receive (once the program is completed), US$2,000 for the person I signed up on my first level, PLUS, US$2000 for each of the 2 people he signed up making US$3,000 in total in this example, is that how it works, if not please clarify?

Thanking you in advance for your kind assistance.

Posted by: xbok Nov 4 2006, 03:40 PM

Well I like to watch this topic and goodluck to you all

Renier

Posted by: IWannaBRich Nov 4 2006, 03:45 PM

i hope this helps!

Posted by: Panther2 Nov 4 2006, 05:45 PM

Thank you very much for your reply it is much appreciated. I just realised that I typed US$3,000 instead of what I meant to type which was US$6,000.

My mistake and thanks again for the clarification. My link now finally and for the first time seems to be working as you say.

Thanks

Posted by: IWannaBRich Nov 5 2006, 08:24 AM

no problem.

Posted by: wwind3 Nov 7 2006, 08:27 AM

Updated Member Count---ICC-306, GPP-13630

Posted by: wwind3 Nov 10 2006, 04:18 AM

Member update---ICC---348, GPP 13770---

Posted by: 4-D-50 Nov 11 2006, 06:11 AM

Long way to go!

But will keep watching

Posted by: IWannaBRich Nov 12 2006, 09:52 AM

yes, true, but that's okay. it has been a pretty steady growth we are now @ 13875.

Posted by: wwind3 Nov 13 2006, 03:05 AM

GPP---13911 members now. GPP site is scheduled to be down for maintenance Monday thru Wed this week.
Dont worry if you cant access it for a while.

Posted by: IWannaBRich Nov 15 2006, 08:46 AM

now we are at 13997!

Posted by: wwind3 Nov 15 2006, 11:00 AM

Think there is any chance GPP will reactivate the forum in their site? The "other" program still has theirs up and they are going great guns. They just announced the "enhanced" program--pretty impressive.

I hope Stella will change her mind about the forum.

Posted by: IWannaBRich Nov 16 2006, 08:56 AM

that WOULD be nice. not that i was active in that particular forum... but the option should be there.

Posted by: dczion Nov 16 2006, 06:01 PM

how many members now?
they say something about the member fee been higher now... that is still working???
or not??
thankz to everyone
and goodluck



how many members now?
they say something about the member fee been higher now... that is still working???
or not??
thankz to everyone
and goodluck

Posted by: atmcash Nov 17 2006, 06:33 AM

we are at 14083

Posted by: IWannaBRich Nov 18 2006, 09:08 AM

oh, i didn't check this thread yesterday... oops! the fee went back down to normal, (30 euros) and our member counter is @ 14143!!! still climbing!

Posted by: IWannaBRich Nov 21 2006, 09:20 AM

we are @ 14265!!!

Posted by: malles Nov 21 2006, 04:01 PM

One of my friends show me this program 5 months ago and told me that it had a very good chance to reach 100.000 members at christmas time or at least in a year.

I didnt join then, but today I thinking of maybe join and therefor came here to read some posts first.
Is it a joke or what?
Is it really true that it is only 14265 members??? 1 month before christmas!!!
Why it not grow if it is so fantastic that you post here.

14265 members after over 1,5 year?? It will take many years to reach to 100.000 if it ever does.

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It cost me less than $40 dollars to participate in this program:

If it takes 5 years to reach our goal and get paid $55,000 dollars

that means IT would be $11,000 dollars per year. GPP is worth the

wait. However, I am going to work harder, to help that 5 year date

to change it to a lesser date and year. Go GPP! Go...

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