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badboy123
They are really scam ! I have trusted them but they have stolen my money !
I have sent my documents but they didn't verify my account with really spam and cheap reasons .
They will steal your money ,
Don't use alertpay anymore
furious.gif 4.gif
onlinecashtime
Why would they stake their rep on your account?

enigma
maybe you violated their terms of service? hope you are able to resolve the problem
magmag
Alertpay is a big criminal scamer they have stolen 23000 $ from my account .
My account is now locked and my money will be stolen !
How you can use AlertPay ???
Don't trust it ! it is a big scamer
badboy123
Don't think about AlertPay ! Go to : http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showthread.p...037#post1245037 and read all about alertpay !
xubeck
Really,, why not try to get in contact with them,, maybe there is just something that u did to violate the terms
TheMobileHookup
Can anyone here provide proof of what happened or should I just close the thread?

People spreading stuff like this can hurt a company if they aren't guilty of the issue.
theFireGod
use e-gold or paypal! biggrin.gif
Procode
Alerptay never scammed me but i dont like them... i stick with paypal and e-gold soon to come smile.gif

Procode
xubeck
QUOTE(Procode @ Sep 2 2006, 07:18 PM) [snapback]2736454[/snapback]

Alerptay never scammed me but i dont like them... i stick with paypal and e-gold soon to come smile.gif

Procode


i have tried them, didn't really like them though, but they never scammed me tongue4.gif

firoz
QUOTE(xubeck @ Sep 2 2006, 10:23 PM) [snapback]2736925[/snapback]

i have tried them, didn't really like them though, but they never scammed me tongue4.gif


May I ask why you did not like AlertPay? I ask because I am an admin at AlertPay and am always looking for ways to improve our services. You can PM me back. We really appreciate feedback. AS you can see, we do not steal money and we do not behave unethically unlike other payment processors. We are doing our best within the industry considering that it is difficult to balance against scammers using our services and then crying after we lock them, and the innocents who support us with encouragement.

Firoz Patel
AlertPay.com
Pedja
QUOTE(firoz @ Sep 3 2006, 06:02 PM) [snapback]2739974[/snapback]

May I ask why you did not like AlertPay? I ask because I am an admin at AlertPay and am always looking for ways to improve our services. You can PM me back. We really appreciate feedback. AS you can see, we do not steal money and we do not behave unethically unlike other payment processors. We are doing our best within the industry considering that it is difficult to balance against scammers using our services and then crying after we lock them, and the innocents who support us with encouragement.

Firoz Patel
AlertPay.com


To see why I don't like AlertPay, check this link. smile.gif
Misfit
QUOTE(TheMobileHookup @ Sep 2 2006, 08:34 AM) [snapback]2734516[/snapback]

Can anyone here provide proof of what happened or should I just close the thread?

People spreading stuff like this can hurt a company if they aren't guilty of the issue.


I sent you a pm with what I have.



QUOTE(firoz @ Sep 3 2006, 09:02 AM) [snapback]2739974[/snapback]

May I ask why you did not like AlertPay? I ask because I am an admin at AlertPay and am always looking for ways to improve our services. You can PM me back. We really appreciate feedback. AS you can see, we do not steal money and we do not behave unethically unlike other payment processors. We are doing our best within the industry considering that it is difficult to balance against scammers using our services and then crying after we lock them, and the innocents who support us with encouragement.

Firoz Patel
AlertPay.com


You want to improve your service? Then get the licenses that are needed to be operating as a money transmitter. I've already confirmed with my state that you don't have them.




TheMobileHookup
QUOTE(Misfit @ Sep 4 2006, 06:41 PM) [snapback]2747149[/snapback]

I sent you a pm with what I have.

You did. I'm stepping back into the background. Continue on.
Procode
QUOTE(TheMobileHookup @ Sep 4 2006, 07:21 PM) [snapback]2747308[/snapback]

You did. I'm stepping back into the background. Continue on.


Care to share with the rest of us?

Procode
TheMobileHookup
QUOTE(Procode @ Sep 4 2006, 09:31 PM) [snapback]2747814[/snapback]

Care to share with the rest of us?

Procode

It has to do with Money Transmitter Licenses.
There are so many rules with it.
Countries and states have different rules thanks to PayPal's massive blunder back in 98 or was it 99...

But the guy from Alertpay seems to have signed up here so he should be able to answer the queries.
Misfit
QUOTE(Procode @ Sep 4 2006, 06:31 PM) [snapback]2747814[/snapback]

Care to share with the rest of us?

Procode


The fact of the matter is they do not have the necessary licenses in place to do business as a money transmitter. I have confirmed this with my state.

Now before anyone questions location, that is of little consequence. If they do business with consumers that live in the states, they must have licenses to do so.

From my inquiring about location:

Question: What I need to confirm now is that even though they are located in Canada, are these licenses still necessary?

Answer: Yes licensure is necessary if the company intends to do business with WA consumers.


Check with your own state/country. If I'm remembering correctly from the stompay fiasco, I want to say that licenses are also necessary for the UK.
edmondyjh
Looks like AP is like another stormpay..
Jake234
A foreign exchange service is not required to abide by state laws. If a monetary currency exchanger is based in the USA they are required to register in all 50 states including Puerto Rico. Exchangers that fall outside USA jurisdiction are not required by US law. Egold only maintains an office in the USA and is not licensed in all 50 states. Please check your facts. Are you stating that since Alertpay is not registered in all 50 states that Egold is exempt from these same laws you think you know? I am an attorney & know currency exchange laws. Yes Stormpay was a USA based company which did require license for all 50 states & Puerto Rico.
uBuyWeRush
Hi Jake,

I have heard that there are a dozen states, including utah, where you do not need a license. what layer of protection would you recommend for an exchanger ? Feel free to email me at support@ubuywerush.com .

Thanks,
Scott
Misfit
QUOTE(Jake234 @ Sep 6 2006, 07:31 PM) [snapback]2759192[/snapback]

A foreign exchange service is not required to abide by state laws. If a monetary currency exchanger is based in the USA they are required to register in all 50 states including Puerto Rico. Exchangers that fall outside USA jurisdiction are not required by US law. Egold only maintains an office in the USA and is not licensed in all 50 states. Please check your facts. Are you stating that since Alertpay is not registered in all 50 states that Egold is exempt from these same laws you think you know? I am an attorney & know currency exchange laws. Yes Stormpay was a USA based company which did require license for all 50 states & Puerto Rico.


I am passing on what I was told by my states' Dept. of Financial Institutions in that licensure is necessary if they intend to do business with consumers living there. I asked specifically about location, giving them Alerpays' address, and was told it didn't matter.

Egold is an ecurrency, and my understanding is they are exempt for that reason. The only way to get money in/out is through an exchanger (one of which was recently shut down for not having necessary licenses).

You bring up Stormpay, and they only held a license in TN.

Instead of telling me to check my facts, why not point me in the right direction? I have no problem admitting I'm wrong if in fact I am. It's interesting that you are saying the complete opposite of what was relayed to me when making this inquiry with my state. post-36326-1110185726.gif
Dido
So can i hear comments from real AlertPay users if "AlertPay is scam or not" ?!!
mastermind
QUOTE(badboy123 @ Sep 2 2006, 12:05 AM) [snapback]2732892[/snapback]

They are really scam ! I have trusted them but they have stolen my money !
I have sent my documents but they didn't verify my account with really spam and cheap reasons .
They will steal your money ,
Don't use alertpay anymore
furious.gif 4.gif


O this is the same person on the talkgold forum speading rumours and getting banned. Provide proof. You sound like the admin of goldentimesurf trying to scam people and pissed that AlertPay shut you down before getting away with it.
madXtremo
Thanks for the info...i will nevar use Alterpay for sure now...
I trust e-gold and only e-gold...
Dagroup
I have used alertpay for 6 months and never had problem with them.
profitcheckers
QUOTE(Dagroup @ Sep 21 2006, 02:27 PM) [snapback]2846386[/snapback]

I have used alertpay for 6 months and never had problem with them.



I am too.
I not have problem with AP tongue4.gif
grande2009
QUOTE(Dido @ Sep 15 2006, 07:45 PM) [snapback]2807184[/snapback]

So can i hear comments from real AlertPay users if "AlertPay is scam or not" ?!!



I am currently having a problem but I must say that Support has been great. At least I am able to get someone on the phone quickly (Just don't call on Monday morning) and my emails are answered generally within 24 hours or less. This is more than I can say with many other companies, some who never even respond to emails. Hopefully, my issue will be resolved soon and then I will be able to give them a glowing review. cheer12.gif
MicroSIM
I Think alertpay is not bad and it have a professional script (i like it, easily to use after e-gold) but it have problem in exchange! becuase they are not any exchanger service that accepted alertpay.


dkhyip
If I open a account at AP - then I can fund the account from my visa and transfer to EG right?
jablonsky
I WAS PAYED ABOUT 995$ FROM SOMEONE AND THEY CHARGED IT ALL BACK WITHOUT ANY EXPLANATION OR QUESTION OR INVESTIGATION.

THEY ARE SCAMMERS. THEY ACT LIKE STORMPAY.

I CAN POST SCREENSHOT IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME furious.gif
zgsnowflake
QUOTE(jablonsky @ Dec 11 2006, 01:36 PM) [snapback]3334977[/snapback]

I WAS PAYED ABOUT 995$ FROM SOMEONE AND THEY CHARGED IT ALL BACK WITHOUT ANY EXPLANATION OR QUESTION OR INVESTIGATION.

THEY ARE SCAMMERS. THEY ACT LIKE STORMPAY.

I CAN POST SCREENSHOT IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME furious.gif

post-36326-1110185726.gif we definitely have right to no. lets see a screenshot ! diablo.gif
smart_i80
I told many people I will never use Alertpay ! It was scam from the beginning paid hundred and thousands in ads ... but I was sure their mission is to scam. They saw Stormpay and they have decided to create scam PP. This is alertpay.

Better get out of it asap ! If it's possible sad.gif
wize exchange
man i hate scammers and if you say that they are haveing this pp thingy i will stop but better be sure first
am i right ?
firoz
QUOTE(jablonsky @ Dec 11 2006, 08:36 AM) [snapback]3334977[/snapback]

I WAS PAYED ABOUT 995$ FROM SOMEONE AND THEY CHARGED IT ALL BACK WITHOUT ANY EXPLANATION OR QUESTION OR INVESTIGATION.

THEY ARE SCAMMERS. THEY ACT LIKE STORMPAY.

I CAN POST SCREENSHOT IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME furious.gif


Do post a screenshot. I would like to see what you are talking about.

QUOTE(smart_i80 @ Dec 12 2006, 07:25 AM) [snapback]3341125[/snapback]

I told many people I will never use Alertpay ! It was scam from the beginning paid hundred and thousands in ads ... but I was sure their mission is to scam. They saw Stormpay and they have decided to create scam PP. This is alertpay.

Better get out of it asap ! If it's possible sad.gif


I can tell you that AlertPay is not a scam. If a few people who try to scam other's get stopped by AlertPay, then they are the ones who scream scam. There is no evidence that shows AP is doing anything bad. Everyone is just loyal to the system they are using and use dirty tactics to hurt AP's reputation.

So I would suggest that anyone who wants to say anything bad, post evidence to back it up as well. If you have none, then dont bother wasting your time.
frabi
Alertpay doesn't transfer my $ to e-gold recently writing they had technical issues. Some1 knows how to get out $ from AP without using checks ( which is not worth from outside US ) ?
nukec
people.. you need to reach the truth.. over 1 year alertpay is running, and you still didn't come to the point, that alertpay is owned by stormpay.

cmon.. same script, same name, same scammers, same blocking account.

grow up.
zgsnowflake
QUOTE(nukec @ Dec 29 2006, 12:11 PM) [snapback]3434797[/snapback]

people.. you need to reach the truth.. over 1 year alertpay is running, and you still didn't come to the point, that alertpay is owned by stormpay.

cmon.. same script, same name, same scammers, same blocking account.

grow up.

this , being the truth or not....I'm staying with my egold account, and never cross my mind to change to another PP. dance9bh.gif
CitizenKane
QUOTE(zgsnowflake @ Dec 12 2006, 03:04 AM) [snapback]3341049[/snapback]

post-36326-1110185726.gif we definitely have right to no. lets see a screenshot ! diablo.gif

I agree where are the screen shots?

QUOTE(smart_i80 @ Dec 12 2006, 03:25 AM) [snapback]3341125[/snapback]

I told many people I will never use Alertpay ! It was scam from the beginning paid hundred and thousands in ads ... but I was sure their mission is to scam. They saw Stormpay and they have decided to create scam PP. This is alertpay.

Better get out of it asap ! If it's possible sad.gif



Interesting as AlertPay is one of the most popular processor out there. Never had a problem with them and I have been with them since February 2006. And what makes you think its a scam? where are you proof? none, none, none, none and..... none. Show proof they are scam then talk.


QUOTE(nukec @ Dec 29 2006, 03:11 AM) [snapback]3434797[/snapback]

people.. you need to reach the truth.. over 1 year alertpay is running, and you still didn't come to the point, that alertpay is owned by stormpay.

cmon.. same script, same name, same scammers, same blocking account.

grow up.

Same script? hahaha you obviously have no clue in web developing, same name? i won't even bother flaming you on that one, same scammer? STILL NO PROOF. Wow so easy to say scam without any proof!. Same blocking account? There are reasons that account get blocked, account compromised by hackers and SCAMS!. In which category do you fall into?
DreamAchiever
ALERTPAY IS A SCAM PP FOR SURE!
I WAS DEPOSIT $2K EGOLD INTO ALERTPAY AND INVESTED SOME OF THE MONEY INTO AUTOSURF, I GOT PAID BY SOME AUTOSURF WEBSITE, AFTER THE AUTOSURF CLOSED DOWN AND ALERTPAY LOCKED MY ACCOUNT, ALL MY MONEY GONE THEY NEVER REFUND ME..IT'S TRUE!
I EMAIL THEM 3 TIMES AND THEY REPLY ME 1 TIME SAID INVESTIGATION FOR MY ACCOUNT BUT AFTERTHAT NO MORE RESPOND. I EMAIL THEM 5 TIMES THEY NV RESPOND ME!

WHAT YOU THINK? IT'S A SCAM!



ALERTPAY ARE SMART SCAM, THEY LOCKED OUR ACCOUNT WITHOUT US NOTICE!
THEY HAVE ONE SECURE ACCOUNT TO WELCOME AS/HYIP & INVESTORS TO USE, THEY THOUGHT IT'S SAFE BUT THEY WRONG, WHAT THEY DO IS WAIT THE AS/HYIP CLOSED DOWN, THEN LOCKED THE ADMIN ACCOUNT STATE THAT ADMIN IS A SCAMMER THEY WILL DO INVESTIGATION, IF YOU RECEIVED HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY OF THE HYIP/AS ADMIN, THEY WILL LOCKED YOUR ACCOUNT AS WELL.

SO..WHERE THE MONEY GOES TO?
---> ALERTPAY
MEAN SCAM!

WE HAVE NO TIME TO TAKE SCREEN SHOOT BEFORE OUR ACCOUNT GET LOCKED!
THEY NEVER WANT TO UNLOCK OUR ACCOUNT BECAUSE THEY SCARE WE SHOW THE PROOF TO ALL THEY CLEAR OUR MONEY TO ZERO!

THEY WILL NOT LOCKED ANY ACCOUNT WHICH TRANSACTION OR ONLY HAVE SMALL AMOUNT IN THEIR ACCOUNT!

DONT BELIEVE? THEN U CAN TRY IT! TRY MAKE FEW HUGE TRANSACTION OR WITHDRAWAL AND SEE WHAT HAPPEN!



ifeelbad
QUOTE(DreamAchiever @ Jan 24 2007, 10:03 AM) [snapback]3583791[/snapback]

ALERTPAY IS A SCAM PP FOR SURE!
I WAS DEPOSIT $2K EGOLD INTO ALERTPAY AND INVESTED SOME OF THE MONEY INTO AUTOSURF, I GOT PAID BY SOME AUTOSURF WEBSITE, AFTER THE AUTOSURF CLOSED DOWN AND ALERTPAY LOCKED MY ACCOUNT, ALL MY MONEY GONE THEY NEVER REFUND ME..IT'S TRUE!
I EMAIL THEM 3 TIMES AND THEY REPLY ME 1 TIME SAID INVESTIGATION FOR MY ACCOUNT BUT AFTERTHAT NO MORE RESPOND. I EMAIL THEM 5 TIMES THEY NV RESPOND ME!

WHAT YOU THINK? IT'S A SCAM!
ALERTPAY ARE SMART SCAM, THEY LOCKED OUR ACCOUNT WITHOUT US NOTICE!
THEY HAVE ONE SECURE ACCOUNT TO WELCOME AS/HYIP & INVESTORS TO USE, THEY THOUGHT IT'S SAFE BUT THEY WRONG, WHAT THEY DO IS WAIT THE AS/HYIP CLOSED DOWN, THEN LOCKED THE ADMIN ACCOUNT STATE THAT ADMIN IS A SCAMMER THEY WILL DO INVESTIGATION, IF YOU RECEIVED HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY OF THE HYIP/AS ADMIN, THEY WILL LOCKED YOUR ACCOUNT AS WELL.

SO..WHERE THE MONEY GOES TO?
---> ALERTPAY
MEAN SCAM!

WE HAVE NO TIME TO TAKE SCREEN SHOOT BEFORE OUR ACCOUNT GET LOCKED!
THEY NEVER WANT TO UNLOCK OUR ACCOUNT BECAUSE THEY SCARE WE SHOW THE PROOF TO ALL THEY CLEAR OUR MONEY TO ZERO!

THEY WILL NOT LOCKED ANY ACCOUNT WHICH TRANSACTION OR ONLY HAVE SMALL AMOUNT IN THEIR ACCOUNT!

DONT BELIEVE? THEN U CAN TRY IT! TRY MAKE FEW HUGE TRANSACTION OR WITHDRAWAL AND SEE WHAT HAPPEN!




dry.gif I don't understand why you say this? I have been an AlertPay member for a long time, and i have never had any issues like this. If anything, AlertPay freezes the accounts of the scam Admins!. I got myself into a whole mess with that no good NeXxSurf, and AlertPay was able to refund me a portion of my investment. Look what just happened with 13Dailypro, AP was able to refund members. Why would a scam PP give back money!? That's why I always use AP over E-gold anyways, what kind of help can E-Gold offer!? if your complaining because they put a lock on a scam program, in trying to help us the real clients, then uv'e gone mad!
interleads
I am glad I read this. I was thinking of adding Alertpay. They look like another Stormpay. I lost thousands with them. They created phony chargebacks and cancelled all my recurring billing without notice. Terrible company.
investor2k6
ALERTPAY DOES STEAL FUNDS
my thread http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Alertpay-Scam-t173313.html
firoz
QUOTE(investor2k6 @ Nov 15 2007, 05:17 AM) [snapback]4490543[/snapback]

I think you are a scam. Easy for people like you to go flooding threads with false accusations with no show of proof. AlertPay hasnt stolen funds, and in fact has helped recover money and paid it back.
investor2k6
alertpay is a big scam, got my account ( had $ 5400) frozen & it was verified with no chargeback
they are scammers I CAM POST SCREENSHOT
& IF U DONT BELIEVE ME do join alertpay ,& get yourself SCREWED IN YOUR *******
firoz
QUOTE(investor2k6 @ Nov 29 2007, 05:10 AM) [snapback]4519336[/snapback]
alertpay is a big scam, got my account ( had $ 5400) frozen & it was verified with no chargeback
they are scammers I CAM POST SCREENSHOT
& IF U DONT BELIEVE ME do join alertpay ,& get yourself SCREWED IN YOUR *******

So post it already! Why claim that you will but you dont?
R33z
I think AlertPay is doing good so far. The support is great as well. I once make long distance call and they guide me very well until now. The problem only so far that AP most benefit US and Canadian. But in their latest news, they are coming to my country which is Malaysia. so I guess by then it will be much more easier to withdraw and funding account. smile.gif Currently the easier method to withdraw is by egold which they always process the request amount without delay.

Thanks
investor2k6
I can post proof that alertpay steals money
niyyie
QUOTE(investor2k6 @ Dec 19 2007, 10:47 AM) [snapback]4560129[/snapback]
I can post proof that alertpay steals money


I dare you to post the proof!
investor2k6
what proof u want,I can show alertpay stole my $ 5400 a legal battle is going too
helping92
QUOTE(investor2k6 @ Jan 10 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]4603883[/snapback]
what proof u want,I can show alertpay stole my $ 5400 a legal battle is going too



I would like to see the proof, I just signed up with them I thought they were good. I cannot afford to lose my money! BTW HOW MUCH DO YOU HAVE TO PAY TO GET THAT 950 A DAY? I need something like that!! The only thing that is actually paying me is 12by12 and I just have not enough egold right now. I need to wait 4 days before I have a good balance.
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