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sportacus
Hello!!!

Here are my questions to Mr Carlo Sorio

How can you loose all your funds, when you are saying that the funds are all the time here and this is a loan? Can you please explain that. This is in regarding with your email from april 2006.

Quote from your email

If for any reason the business will not grow as expected, the worst you can expect is that we close the Investors corner, pay back the principals, and go ahead with our Payment Processor Business.



Can you also write a couple of words why Asianpay is not going to be a new Stormpay, Emo etc fraud? I am not worried , but it would be great to have some re assurance!!!

Thanks
Sportacus

RollinHigh
sportacus.... I dont believe you are reading this email correct... it says NOWHERE in their you will lose your funds.

... it says... if asianpay can no longer pay the interest from the loan, you get your principal back...

maybe you made a typo... please let me know if I read your question wrong
sportacus
QUOTE(RollinHigh @ Aug 6 2006, 07:47 PM) [snapback]2591989[/snapback]

sportacus.... I dont believe you are reading this email correct... it says NOWHERE in their you will lose your funds.

... it says... if asianpay can no longer pay the interest from the loan, you get your principal back...

maybe you made a typo... please let me know if I read your question wrong


Good morning!!

Well I refer to this disclaimer

Part 2. Legal Disclaimer- AsianPay Investors Corner is an investment project of private nature, not available to the general public and is, therefore, exempt from The Securities and Exchange Act of 1992 and all amendments thereof and U.S. Securities Act of 1933 and all amendments thereof, and from any equivalent law of any jurisdiction.- AsianPay Investors Corner disclaims any liability for the investments in any investment opportunities brought to your attention on our website. You should not consider anything found on our website an offer to sell securities or a solicitation to invest in any investment opportunity. - AsianPay Investors Corner requires you to be at least 18 years of age in order to be eligible for using our services.- AsianPay Investors Corner requires you to act as an individual and not on behalf of any other entity or authority.- AsianPay Investors Corner is not responsible for any losses.

You invest at your own risk, you can always lose your funds in full.-

AsianPay Investors Corner reserves the right to suspend any membership upon the breach of any of the rules and requirements of our Terms.- AsianPay Investors Corner is not accountable for any damage or loss of data caused by any events, actions or omissions, that lead to delay or distortions in the transmission of information, requests and orders due to a breakdown in any transmission facilities that are beyond the control of AsianPay Investors Corner.- Communication between you and AsianPay Investors Corner is viewed as private communication of confidential information intended to be used by you only. AsianPay Investors Corner requires you to keep all the communication private and not to disclose it to any third party unless this information is obviously of a public nature.- AsianPay Investors Corner reserves the right to alter its Terms at any time and to notify you by posting an updated version of Terms on our website. Members are responsible for constant reviewing of our Terms.

So I find it very strange that this is stated , when it is said that they will refund if things is not going well.
Actually, nothing is said about refund , if the plan fails. So i would like to know why everything is so safe , when this words are used. i know the company have to protect them self.
So please help me to undestand this.
Thanks
Sportacus
RollinHigh
I am not the asianpay ceo... but I will invite him to answer your questions...

but believe me when I say there is no worries smile.gif
AsianPayCEO
QUOTE(sportacus @ Aug 7 2006, 12:47 PM) [snapback]2592423[/snapback]

Good morning!!

Well I refer to this disclaimer


You invest at your own risk, you can always lose your funds in full.-


So I find it very strange that this is stated , when it is said that they will refund if things is not going well.
Actually, nothing is said about refund , if the plan fails. So i would like to know why everything is so safe , when this words are used. i know the company have to protect them self.
So please help me to undestand this.
Thanks
Sportacus


Dear Sir,

Basically you have answered to your question by yourself.

We have to protect the Company and standard legal definitions exist and can not be changed on papers.
We then change them with our modus operandi. When you pticipate in a program like The Investors Corner, you perfectly now what you are doing and how the things are.

Moreover, basically The Investor Corner is a loan: our members accept to give us an amount as in a loan form and to get interest in exchange of the loan and the principl back at a determined time. Even in the real life, when you decide to help someone, friends or not, economically, you know that there is apossibility hat you will not get back the money. Even in the real life, when you Invest in any allowed form, like stock exchanges or similar, there is a possibility that the Company get bankruptcy and you loose everything.

So everything at the end is just based on how much you trust, and on he honesty and integrityof the people or Companies youd ela with.

I think that AsianPay payments, in its first year of life, has already shown absolute honesty and integrity and I can not see any rason why, while we are growing and opening a subsidiary Company in Singapore, we should get bankruptcy and get our members to suffer losses.

As per your other question: there are practical reason why EMO and StormPay experienced their problems basically petty different between them. I personally still believe that EMO has paid in its area someone' envy. We have used them for a long time in the past without any problem, and how their eceivership was requested and applied is not so clear to us.

Different for StormPay, from wich often we suffered problems, like for PayPal, almost for a buisness vision truy different from the one Asianpay has. This anyway statede that staying on the Company side, it is almost true that Stormpay was forced to "the chargeback period" from government agencies and from Visa and MasterCard and that to apply that metod was not a sole decisions from the Company. Eventually their mistake was in allowing illegal businesses or better to say "considered ilegal businesses" (read autosurf) to run without a clear refund policy.

AsianPay Co. Ltd is a ruly shareholders managed compoany even if we have a Board of Directors, but what makes us different is our visions. All the people in our Companies are not business men, are not financial institutional investors, but just customers, people like you an me, with the aim to change the way the things are in this business. An because of this new vision our approach to the problems is always different from the one that a "only money oriented" Company would have.

Of course we work to make profit, no reason to deny it, but we work to make profit from our Business, not from our Customers.

Kind regards

Carlo Sorio
President & CEO
Asianpay Co. Lt.
AsianPay (SINGAPORE) Pte. Lt.
AsianPayCEO
QUOTE(sportacus @ Aug 7 2006, 05:56 AM) [snapback]2591187[/snapback]

Hello!!!

Here are my questions to Mr Carlo Sorio

How can you loose all your funds, when you are saying that the funds are all the time here and this is a loan? Can you please explain that. This is in regarding with your email from april 2006.

Quote from your email

If for any reason the business will not grow as expected, the worst you can expect is that we close the Investors corner, pay back the principals, and go ahead with our Payment Processor Business.
Can you also write a couple of words why Asianpay is not going to be a new Stormpay, Emo etc fraud? I am not worried , but it would be great to have some re assurance!!!

Thanks
Sportacus


Hello,

I'm really glad to personally answer to this question also.

The Investors Corner is based on our Gold Exchange business. In this business we are not alone, but we depends on third parties with their own policies and witht their own Companies. One reason why everyon here not only our members but we first can loose all our money? if overnight, like happened for others, e-gold web site disappear locked from governemnt agencies. This is a case in which everyone will loose everything until goverment agencies will release the money. And is something you can not preview nor you can do anything about.

A recent example is "GoldAge" situation. They have been locked overnight, maybe for absolutely good reaons. we never exchanged through them so we did not suffered any losses, but many businesses had problems with moneys ent to them and never paid back due to the problem.

Internet is not a separate world and Internet businesses are not different from any real business, with the same vnatages, same disavantages, maybe some more positive option, but all the same problems any Business can experience

I don't know why bu sometime people are thinking tht because it is on internet is different. This is not true; we all are human, we have staff that make mistakes, that generate losses or profits to The Company by their actions, we can go bankrutcy, we can loose or make money and the reason is not everytime because we are a scam and we wasgoing to do it by purpose.

There are plenty of past business that was operating honestly and with integrity and they turned out to be a "scam" in people opinion just because of the voices around.

What makes Internet different, and extremely dangerous for a real Company, is that people can blackmail you, treat you, build a full negative campaign against you, without any real proof of any mistake from you, but just spreading around a voice. People can destroy a Company on internet by words without any possibility for the Company to react in time. At least, in the real life, you have more legal options to defend yourself.

Kind regards

Carlo Sorio
Asianpay Co. Ltd.
AsianPay (SINGAPORE) Pte. lt.
Jetzie
wish to ask if its possible to add 2 bank accounts to asianpay? 1 Singapore and 1 thai bank account.

International-wire is too expensive... i'm thinking of transfering to thaibank account and use internet-banking to transfer to singapore bank, wont know if it's possible though
goshinguy
QUOTE(Jetzie @ Aug 9 2006, 02:22 PM) [snapback]2605283[/snapback]

wish to ask if its possible to add 2 bank accounts to asianpay? 1 Singapore and 1 thai bank account.

International-wire is too expensive... i'm thinking of transfering to thaibank account and use internet-banking to transfer to singapore bank, wont know if it's possible though


You should submit a ticket for this question to their customer care team. It is an interesting question and would like to know the answer too.
Jetzie
QUOTE(goshinguy @ Aug 10 2006, 10:31 AM) [snapback]2607874[/snapback]

You should submit a ticket for this question to their customer care team. It is an interesting question and would like to know the answer too.



yeap, that's exactly why i'm posting in main so every1 can see dance9bh.gif
well, if it's something worth mentioning, i guess posting in main would be more benificiary
goshinguy
QUOTE(Jetzie @ Aug 10 2006, 02:44 AM) [snapback]2607922[/snapback]

yeap, that's exactly why i'm posting in main so every1 can see dance9bh.gif
well, if it's something worth mentioning, i guess posting in main would be more benificiary


U might get the answer, I cant guarantee when becoz no Asianpay crew visit this forum regularly. You can submit the ticket and then when you receive the reply, paste the answer here. That's quicker. tongue4.gif happy.gif
AsianPayCEO
QUOTE(goshinguy @ Aug 10 2006, 10:15 AM) [snapback]2608040[/snapback]

U might get the answer, I cant guarantee when becoz no Asianpay crew visit this forum regularly. You can submit the ticket and then when you receive the reply, paste the answer here. That's quicker. tongue4.gif happy.gif


Hello,

First the answer then a comment.

As many of you already knows, we are going to open the offices in Singapore and we have almost closed our process with Citibank to be allowed to use their Gateway to restart Credit Cards Operations.

This represents an important success for our Company. To be accepted and allowed to use the services from one of the First Bank Institution in the world, after a long and deep due diligence they made on us, it is for sure for everyone a guarantee of our solidity, honesty and integrity and especially proof of our respect of the law.

And what is quickly changing in this kind of Internet business, is the law, with particular refernce to identity theft and anti money laundering procedures.

This is the reason why we have restricted the use of the majority of our services to at least verified Members, and this is the reason why we still have to enumuate the possibility to allow our members to register Bank Accounts in a Country different from the one they reside in.

Our legal office is discussing this matter and we will update our members as soon as possible on this.

Please understand that we have always tried nd we will always try to satisfy any Customer request, but we have a limit, that is the law. Whatever is legal we will do, but we will never do what can cost to us our business, authorization and licences.

And now for a small comment: It seems to me that we always answer to any question posted in this forum and there are at least 2 directors of The Company, not simply someone of the crew, that are registered here and try to visit daily this forum.

We are very grateful indeed to MoneyMakerGroup for their decision to allow a subforum for Asianpay payments, but this is not our support forum. We have a strong support section at http://www.asianpaysupport.com/support/index.php where Customer requests are answered in hours if not minutes and our hard job is done there and regretfully there is not so much time left to be always present here.

Our Top Class support is already recognized worlwide, and I think it is an important part, very important, of our Business development and of our results until now.

Thank you all and, stay tuned! In the next 7 days we are going to launch new opportunities, we are going to announce new developments and , regretfully, is possible we are going to announce a new just discovered Internet Scam. But do not ask anything: we are collecting strong proof of that before to make any announcement, to our sharehodlers first, to our members second, and then to update all the forums and message boards where we are members.

Asianpay is still, first of all, a strong community of honest people and this is eventually part of our job.

Kind regards

Carlo Sorio
President & CEO
Asianpay Co. Ltd.
AsianPay (SINGAPORE) Pte. Lt.
Jetzie
hello carlos, thanks for the details answer, however , what if we really do have a registered bank account from thailand in my name but i reside in Singapore.

As i used to have a embassy pass for the miliatary in thailand, i had a thai bank account to my name. is there a possibility i could link this thai account to my asianpay account ? considering that documents verify that the account does belong to me
AsianPayCEO
QUOTE(Jetzie @ Aug 11 2006, 09:27 PM) [snapback]2615976[/snapback]

hello carlos, thanks for the details answer, however , what if we really do have a registered bank account from thailand in my name but i reside in Singapore.

As i used to have a embassy pass for the miliatary in thailand, i had a thai bank account to my name. is there a possibility i could link this thai account to my asianpay account ? considering that documents verify that the account does belong to me


Hello,

This is exactly what we are verifying with our legal office with particular refrence to the kind of documents we will have to require in this case for the verification of the bank account.

The major problem is related to the money circulation rules and to the limits that Thailand and other Countries apply to the money circulation in foreign value between different countries.

If we allow you to have Bank Account in Singapore and one in Thailand, for instance, we can be charged for allowing you to move US$ from Thailand to Singapore or the way back over the authorized limits.

Due to the above we to strictly verify legally our position before to allow these kind of movements.

We hope to be able to have updates and good news very soon.

Kind regards
Jetzie
Khorp Kun mak krup!
Thanks for answering all my doubts, as i do not wish to have any complications shud i have acted without thinking, creating more trouble for me and more work for you guys.

rock on!
AsianPayFRAUD
QUOTE (Jetzie @ Aug 11 2006, 08:14 AM) *
Khorp Kun mak krup!
Thanks for answering all my doubts, as i do not wish to have any complications shud i have acted without thinking, creating more trouble for me and more work for you guys.

rock on!


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Check this out!

http://kanitamo.com/carlossorioasianpaychi...leourmoney.html


Many thanks for your email’s regarding Carlo Sorio, Joey Wellington, Corrado Prever, Supattra Charoenku, Juthamaht Tongsa and co partners, thieves, fraud and fellow scamsters,

Carlo & AsianPay are currently under investigation by the Chiang Mai police in the province of Hang Dong district, we have already filed a report against them but the local police are finding it difficult understanding the nature of the crimes committed, but they have said that if ENOUGH people come forward and complain they will bring in the Thai DSI - a branch of the police dealing with fraud. The Thai Government Office of Consumer Protection.

We contacted the DSI ourselves and they also said the same, that if enough people complain they will go in with full force and close the whole of the operation. They also said their was a new law passed last year which enables them to just walk into AsianPays office and seize computers etc without having to wait for a long drawn out court appearance’s involving lawyers etc …

We suggest the first step you take is to telephone the local police station in Hang Dong, the more they keep hearing the name AsianPay the better, this would be best being done by a Thai wife, husband or friend. Even though their response will be that you should come down to Chiang Mai to personally file the report it all still helps for them suddenly having enough of hearing the name AsianPay and going in full force with warrants for arrest with further police that have knowledge of internet fraud / crime.

The telephone numbers for the police at Hang Dong are;

053 – 441802
053 – 441800
053 - 441801

After scouring the internet I can not believe how many people are now posting complaints on them, please let us know if we are allowed to publish your complaint on our web site and how private you wish it to be?

Key web sites / forums which may be of interest to you found at present are;

http://kanitamo.com/carlossorioasianpaychi...leourmoney.html

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showthread.p...731#post2649731

http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/04/24/in...orio-asian-pay/

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Asian-Pay-an...ge-t172109.html

http://tge-tic.subjectonline.com/forum.htm

Please if you have time post on these forums and share your experiences and spread the word so the vermin will be quickly destroyed by their own actions, if you are aware of any other forum, web site’s or people that have been scammed by this scum please let us know?

With best regards

AsianPay FRAUD Investigation….

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Get your money back from AsianPay Co. Ltd. NOW !
Thailand Gold Exchange AsianDigital E-currencies Co. Ltd. are being sued by many people now!

Join the Lawsuit:

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Register on this website so our lawfirm can represent you, too!
lina12
QUOTE (AsianPayCEO @ Aug 9 2006, 07:21 AM) *
Dear Sir,

Basically you have answered to your question by yourself.

We have to protect the Company and standard legal definitions exist and can not be changed on papers.
We then change them with our modus operandi. When you pticipate in a program like The Investors Corner, you perfectly now what you are doing and how the things are.

Moreover, basically The Investor Corner is a loan: our members accept to give us an amount as in a loan form and to get interest in exchange of the loan and the principl back at a determined time. Even in the real life, when you decide to help someone, friends or not, economically, you know that there is apossibility hat you will not get back the money. Even in the real life, when you Invest in any allowed form, like stock exchanges or similar, there is a possibility that the Company get bankruptcy and you loose everything.

So everything at the end is just based on how much you trust, and on he honesty and integrityof the people or Companies youd ela with.

I think that AsianPay payments, in its first year of life, has already shown absolute honesty and integrity and I can not see any rason why, while we are growing and opening a subsidiary Company in Singapore, we should get bankruptcy and get our members to suffer losses.

As per your other question: there are practical reason why EMO and StormPay experienced their problems basically petty different between them. I personally still believe that EMO has paid in its area someone' envy. We have used them for a long time in the past without any problem, and how their eceivership was requested and applied is not so clear to us.

Different for StormPay, from wich often we suffered problems, like for PayPal, almost for a buisness vision truy different from the one Asianpay has. This anyway statede that staying on the Company side, it is almost true that Stormpay was forced to "the chargeback period" from government agencies and from Visa and MasterCard and that to apply that metod was not a sole decisions from the Company. Eventually their mistake was in allowing illegal businesses or better to say "considered ilegal businesses" (read autosurf) to run without a clear refund policy.

AsianPay Co. Ltd is a ruly shareholders managed compoany even if we have a Board of Directors, but what makes us different is our visions. All the people in our Companies are not business men, are not financial institutional investors, but just customers, people like you an me, with the aim to change the way the things are in this business. An because of this new vision our approach to the problems is always different from the one that a "only money oriented" Company would have.

Of course we work to make profit, no reason to deny it, but we work to make profit from our Business, not from our Customers.

Kind regards

Carlo Sorio
President & CEO
Asianpay Co. Lt.
AsianPay (SINGAPORE) Pte. Lt.


sir,
Are You doing honestly in your business why not reply of your customer . i knew read here and reply to all investor who are really trust you and only for that they invested in your TIC huge of money. what feel if your admin not support .please reply here if you are honestly doing your job.
lina12
QUOTE (AsianPayCEO @ Aug 9 2006, 07:21 AM) *
Dear Sir,

Basically you have answered to your question by yourself.

We have to protect the Company and standard legal definitions exist and can not be changed on papers.
We then change them with our modus operandi. When you pticipate in a program like The Investors Corner, you perfectly now what you are doing and how the things are.

Moreover, basically The Investor Corner is a loan: our members accept to give us an amount as in a loan form and to get interest in exchange of the loan and the principl back at a determined time. Even in the real life, when you decide to help someone, friends or not, economically, you know that there is apossibility hat you will not get back the money. Even in the real life, when you Invest in any allowed form, like stock exchanges or similar, there is a possibility that the Company get bankruptcy and you loose everything.

So everything at the end is just based on how much you trust, and on he honesty and integrityof the people or Companies youd ela with.

I think that AsianPay payments, in its first year of life, has already shown absolute honesty and integrity and I can not see any rason why, while we are growing and opening a subsidiary Company in Singapore, we should get bankruptcy and get our members to suffer losses.

As per your other question: there are practical reason why EMO and StormPay experienced their problems basically petty different between them. I personally still believe that EMO has paid in its area someone' envy. We have used them for a long time in the past without any problem, and how their eceivership was requested and applied is not so clear to us.

Different for StormPay, from wich often we suffered problems, like for PayPal, almost for a buisness vision truy different from the one Asianpay has. This anyway statede that staying on the Company side, it is almost true that Stormpay was forced to "the chargeback period" from government agencies and from Visa and MasterCard and that to apply that metod was not a sole decisions from the Company. Eventually their mistake was in allowing illegal businesses or better to say "considered ilegal businesses" (read autosurf) to run without a clear refund policy.

AsianPay Co. Ltd is a ruly shareholders managed compoany even if we have a Board of Directors, but what makes us different is our visions. All the people in our Companies are not business men, are not financial institutional investors, but just customers, people like you an me, with the aim to change the way the things are in this business. An because of this new vision our approach to the problems is always different from the one that a "only money oriented" Company would have.

Of course we work to make profit, no reason to deny it, but we work to make profit from our Business, not from our Customers.

Kind regards

Carlo Sorio
President & CEO
Asianpay Co. Lt.
AsianPay (SINGAPORE) Pte. Lt.

sir,
what happened in your business. please send details otherwise i unable to know what happened there. i send to you a lot of mail, but not reply from your end till date. please clear my matured amount which is very essential for me now.
lina12
hi,
any one from thailand in this forum can help for me and all people whose are fraud by asianpay co ltd
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