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Radmax
Here is an interesting article on some of the benefits individuals and companies get by moving their accounts offshore and the impact it is causing on the nations which are losing out on this money.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/business/st...1446130,00.html

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Sunday March 27, 2005
The Observer

Rupert Murdoch last week floated his family's £3.8 billion personal investment company in Bermuda - saving himself £522 million in taxes.

Bermuda was chosen because the media tycoon, who chairs News Corporation, wanted to avoid the taxman after his firm changed domicile from Australia to the United States recently. Just prior to the Bermuda float, Murdoch bought a 20-room, three-floor residence opposite Central Park in Manhattan for £22m. Days later he bought a house in Beijing.

Lakshmi Mittal, the Indian-born, Labour-donor industrial magnate, is the world's third richest man, according to Forbes. Worth £13bn, he spent £57m on a 12-bedroom London home next to Kensington Palace and could afford to spend £31m on his daughter's wedding in Paris, which included a sparkling performance by Kylie Minogue. Under UK tax laws, he remains exempt from paying a heavy tax bill by saying his primary residence is overseas. Capital gains tax on UK assets can also be also avoided by holding them in a foreign company or trust.

The business empire of retail billionaire Philip Green is mostly held in the name of his wife, Tina, who is resident in Monaco. Taveta Investments, the vehicle used to acquire Arcadia in 2002, paid out a hefty £460m to its owner last year. Green, who spends much of his time in Britain, would have been landed with a £150m tax bill if he owned Taveta; as it is held by his wife, a minuscule amount of tax is due.

These three examples demonstrate one essential fact: the rich can afford to minimise their tax bills, while the rest of us have to stump up. This weekend The Observer can exclusively reveal that the world's richest people are hiding an astonishing $11.5 trillion in tax havens.

For the first time, research has pieced together the amount of wealth held in low-tax environments. The annual income that these assets earn totals $860bn. But what is sure to concern government treasuries the world over is that the taxable income on $11.5tn could exceed $255bn.

There is nothing illegal in stashing cash in secretive tax havens. Minimising tax obligations is a way of life for many people in all income brackets. But these shock figures - established by campaign group Tax Justice Network, a collection of tax experts and economists - will sound alarm bells that the social contract between sovereign states and the wealthy is being torn up.

'This is one of the defining crises of our times,' says John Christensen, co-ordinator of the Tax Justice Network and a former economic adviser to the Jersey government. 'One of the most fundamental changes in our society in recent years is how money and the rich have become more mobile. This has resulted in the wealthy becoming less inclined to associate with normal society and feeling no obligation to pay taxes.'

Richard Murphy of Tax Research, who co-authored the report, says: 'No one has tried to calculate a number like this before. To ensure the credibility of our data, we have only used information already in the public domain and produced by some of the most authoritative sources in the world. In addition, we tested our conclusions against three independent sources of information, and all seem to substantially agree, giving us a high degree of confidence in the conclusions we have reached.'

The Irish government has said it is losing significant revenue through the rich stashing their cash in tax havens, while the US believes it could be losing out on at least $35bn a year.

Jeffrey Owens, director of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development's centre for tax policy and administration, says: 'High net worth individuals are enjoying the joys of being offshore, and that has implications for tax bases not just in OECD countries but in China, Brazil, South Africa and India. All these countries are saying they want to join us in our drive to persuade offshore locations to improve transparency and co-operate with authorities seeking information.'

Owens adds that the trend for wealthy individuals to place their wealth offshore is increasing, but stressed that tax havens are essential for individuals who live in unstable regimes.

But aid organisations are alarmed that money that should be used for building the infrastructure of the poorest countries is being hidden in havens by corrupt politicians and multinationals exploiting tax loopholes. Offshore companies are being formed at the rate of about 150,000 a year. Whereas in the Seventies there were just 25 tax havens, now there are at least 63, about half of them British protectorates or former colonies. Tax avoidance in Britain alone is estimated to cost the Treasury between £25bn and £85bn a year.

Christensen says: 'For decades, special interests have lobbied governments to prevent a coherent crackdown. Now civil society is acting globally and demanding governments put this on the international agenda.'

George Gelber, head of public policy at Catholic aid agency Cafod, says: 'The people who use tax havens are free-riders on the taxes paid by working people round the world. They pay little or nothing for public goods such as the rule of law and security, which have to be paid for by the taxes of much less well-off people.

'If only a fraction of the taxes due on the trillions of dollars held in tax havens became available for international development, it would enable most rich countries to allocate 0.7 per cent of their national income to development assistance [double what Britain, for example, currently spends], and put the Millennium Development Goals [on alleviating poverty] within reach of even the poorest countries.'

While the Inland Revenue has had more success in chasing up wealthy offshore fraudsters, a National Audit Office report last year highlighted the growing number of people - not just the wealthy - using tax haven credit cards and bank accounts.

The reportsays: 'The Revenue do not know how many people have tax haven bank accounts and credit card accounts... probably all of the major banks in this country offer offshore accounts, but they have not had to tell the Revenue about clients with an offshore account.'

Investigations in the US showed that one credit company alone had 230,000 offshore accounts covering 1.7 million transactions.

'The issues of tax havens and tax competition are symptomatic of a much wider malaise at the heart of the international financial system,' says David Woodward, director of the Global Economies Programme at the New Economics Foundation. 'This is a critical time for development, and particularly for the achievement of the Millennium Development Goals. If we are serious about reducing poverty, one of the first things we need to tackle is an international financial system run by the rich, for the rich, at the expense of the poor. It is time to rethink what the system is for - and dealing with tax havens and tax competition could be an important first step. $255bn of lost public revenues is just part of the price we pay for our failure."

Meanwhile, multinational companies are increasingly looking at using offshore havens to avoid or minimise tax payments in a bid to maintain their prof its and to add shareholder value. Multinationals now see tax departments as profit centres and, given the risk of detection, the gains to be made through sophisticated techniques are irresistible.

This may have been why KPMG, the accountant and consultancy firm, cold-called an amusement arcade firm to sell it a tax-shelter scheme it knew would be considered unacceptable by Customs & Excise, as revealed earlier this year in The Observer. The VAT-avoidance scheme, KPMG said, would save the company more than £4.2m per year. Last January, the European Court of Justice described it as 'unacceptable'.

KPMG's prospectus to gaming company RAL Holdings said: 'In our view, HM Customs & Excise will regard these planning arrangements as "unacceptable tax avoidance" and will seek to challenge the arrangements. However a similar concept for telecommunications ran for nearly four years... before the EU amended primary legislation and stopped the concept.'

It is thought such practices are far from unusual. It may seem that the wealthy and big business are running rings round tax authorities. But there are signs that civil society will soon be demanding a crackdown.
Kenny
very intresting... i wonder how much the peeps on MMG have hiding lately... im guessin 2.4 B...hehe
Global*Money
so thats how the rich ger richer tongue.gif
pepperstripe
the rich get richer by playing smart, and not by working hard
prosper4all
Freedom cannot be kept if it is not protected. That includes financial freedom. I see no problem in sovereign people sharing whatever they have, to whomever they want.

There is nothing like good honest work, and learning to invest. Therefore those of us that learn to live mostly or solely on pasive income, may wish to help those that truly want to better their lives. And that could be mostly with education. Education is the key.

Why should we let thieves rule our lives when there are always better options?
Archangel
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one of the first things we need to tackle is an international financial system run by the rich, for the rich, at the expense of the poor


This is offensive. It's not 'at the expense of the poor'... the 'rich' have to jump through hoops to keep what is theirs. When they do so, it's not at the expense of ANYONE... it was THEIR money.

Nothing bothers me more than people who seem to think they're entitled to something someone else has for no better reason than that they want it. Why do these poor deserve the money that someone else is earning?
flower
Just keep one thing in mind and you´ll be fine

Let your MONEY work for you,NOT the other way around tongue.gif


The more you get,the easier it gets,and the more connections you make the more doors opens for you...it´s a chainreaction...and it suits me like a glove on my hand tongue.gif


Before I hated numbers and avoided mathclass the best I could in college,just attended enough to get my grades,the rest of the time I spent with friends in cafeés.LOL
Now I live with numbers and feel like a fish in the ocean,can´t get enough,always want to learn more and find new opportunities....this is so much fun!And it makes life so much easier with money! tongue.gif
limracorp

Thats amazing, how much Rupert saved. I like the figures.
hanzahar
rich took poor peoples money for them to enjoy...

capitalism...

dun really like the idea....
YanG85
wow... yays really alot of money...

maybe something should be done to minimise flow of funds offshore..

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alexeow
Let money works for you is far more easy than you works for money. tongue4.gif
MerlinS
QUOTE(alexeow @ Nov 11 2005, 12:49 AM)
Let money works for you is far more easy than you works for money.  tongue4.gif
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Yeah, and even better if you use other people's money to work for yourself dance9bh.gif
Student
QUOTE(limracorp @ Aug 1 2005, 04:13 AM)
Thats amazing, how much Rupert saved. I like the figures.
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Hey Limracorp... where you been?


Any word on Skynet/Limra Corp? dry.gif
UNC
QUOTE(Student @ Nov 10 2005, 01:05 PM)
Hey Limracorp... where you been?
Any word on Skynet/Limra Corp? dry.gif
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ADC Services
Wouldn't you think storing your cash in an offshore hedge fund would be more wise?
pwalbridge
QUOTE(Archangel @ Jul 31 2005, 05:27 PM) [snapback]348751[/snapback]

This is offensive. It's not 'at the expense of the poor'... the 'rich' have to jump through hoops to keep what is theirs. When they do so, it's not at the expense of ANYONE... it was THEIR money.

Nothing bothers me more than people who seem to think they're entitled to something someone else has for no better reason than that they want it. Why do these poor deserve the money that someone else is earning?


I SO agree with you Archangel. The poor are screaming, "It's not fair that somebody else is rich!" And procede to take down as many "rich" people as they can. All that does is make them feel better - "since I can't be rich, neither can anybody ELSE!" Yes, it's THEIR $, they WORKED for it, let them play with it! Once I'm earning enough I might consider offshore banking.
wallacetrying
money works for you is more easy than you works for money. right???? harhar.gif
it suits me like a glove on my hand harhar.gif
Now
QUOTE(MerlinS @ Nov 10 2005, 06:54 PM) [snapback]554059[/snapback]

Yeah, and even better if you use other people's money to work for yourself :dance:


Haha rofl4.gif
AppleXY
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the rich get richer by playing smart, and not by working hard


Agreed. Wealth people have smart brains to achieve maximal return of their investments, anyway, thats wot they do in their job tongue4.gif
sixty6
I think it's ironic that Rupert Murdoch comes to america, makes more money with United States corporations, and then sells out by hiding his assests offshore. He at least owes taxes to US citizens for the freedom they gave him to make this money. After all, mr. murdoch is a naturalized citizen.
pnelson
QUOTE(ADC Services @ Jan 29 2006, 12:19 AM) [snapback]1016045[/snapback]

Wouldn't you think storing your cash in an offshore hedge fund would be more wise?


Do like the wealthy-

Get your profits offshore - stay off the taxman's radar! :-D


Regards,

Peter
GTS Designs
QUOTE(AppleXY @ Jul 29 2006, 03:15 PM) [snapback]2548371[/snapback]

Agreed. Wealth people have smart brains to achieve maximal return of their investments, anyway, thats wot they do in their job tongue4.gif


EXACTLY!!!
uniglo
Very interesting read. Quite true too.
ChrisMono
yeh i transfered 850million into a cuban bank the other week.

I wish.
jafar00
QUOTE(ChrisMono @ Feb 14 2007, 02:21 PM) [snapback]3694570[/snapback]

yeh i transfered 850million into a cuban bank the other week.

I wish.


Isn't there some sort of embargo on Cuba? harhar.gif
emkiemtien
QUOTE(Radmax86 @ Mar 26 2005, 07:43 PM) [snapback]199146[/snapback]
Here is an interesting article on some of the benefits individuals and companies get by moving their accounts offshore and the impact it is causing on the nations which are losing out on this money.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/business/st...1446130,00.html

Let's me test it !
ducktape
Wow nice article. Always amazing how much money super wealthy people have smile.gif There was one member on the Domain Forums who said he was making 1 million a year just from domain names and I thought damn that was good smile.gif
ChrisMono
QUOTE(jafar00 @ Feb 16 2007, 01:10 PM) [snapback]3703803[/snapback]
Isn't there some sort of embargo on Cuba? harhar.gif


cuba??? sorry i meant panama tongue4.gif
Dannyboy-online
QUOTE(ducktape @ May 26 2007, 09:17 PM) [snapback]4133132[/snapback]
Wow nice article. Always amazing how much money super wealthy people have smile.gif There was one member on the Domain Forums who said he was making 1 million a year just from domain names and I thought damn that was good smile.gif


Don't believe all the crap you read on the internet smile.gif

Danny...
GirlNextDoor
Many corrupted parties move their enormous hidden wealth offshore to avoid and evade the scrutiny of the people and government biggrin.gif
Dannyboy-online
QUOTE(GirlNextDoor @ May 29 2007, 12:11 AM) [snapback]4139093[/snapback]
Many corrupted parties move their enormous hidden wealth offshore to avoid and evade the scrutiny of the people and government biggrin.gif


I don't blame them, if i could afford it i'd do the same smile.gif

Danny...
hanzahar
ok so now u have 1 trillion

so much money,what can you do with that money?

eat them?

shrugs... there's like 1 billion people in this world starving crying.gif sad.gif
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