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danfef1
I dont get it. It is so easy to earn money online with stable investment programs and if you're willing, HYIP's. When i talk to friends and tell them the kind of money im starting to earn online, they all say its BS. If it was so easy, everyone would do it.

I just started almost a month ago and have already built up a nice little bankroll. As long as you stay safe, you can earn consistent money.
Ubikk
Everybody is a winner in the beginning. tongue4.gif
Thing will get a bit more complicated afterwars rolleyes.gif
danfef1
QUOTE(Ubikk @ Jun 29 2006, 07:24 AM) [snapback]2385433[/snapback]

Everybody is a winner in the beginning. tongue4.gif
Thing will get a bit more complicated afterwars rolleyes.gif



i can see that happening. once you have more money to play with, you are tempted to try riskier things and invest more money. i hope i can control myself and be smart about it dry.gif shutup.gif
alexeow
Most of the people would like to close their ear and satisfied with their current 9-5 job condition. The 80/20 rule was always right.
danfef1
QUOTE(alexeow @ Jun 29 2006, 09:23 AM) [snapback]2386079[/snapback]

Most of the people would like to close their ear and satisfied with their current 9-5 job condition. The 80/20 rule was always right.


well lets keep it that way then. more money for everyone else to make. who would run the world. makes sense.
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UNC
Not everyone believes this just because they aren't actually doing it themselves nor see it first hand. Some people also may not be comfortable with playing ponzis as someone is going to loss on the other end when/if they profit. The risk level also may not be comfortable for some people either.

I mean their is always stable alternatives such as Adsense they could be making money with online..

But some people are content with their jobs and enjoy them and if thats the case why quit? smile.gif
cycolion
Your lucky that you have done so well. It isn't that easy to make money online, and some people are just happy working 9-5, don't forget, some people actually like going to work, for many people that's their life, without it they're nothing.
hkartadi
Dont tell me you put your money in solidinvestment as on your signature. The site is gonna blow soon.. I guess
nothinggirl
sometimes it's easy to make money around here, sometimes it's not so easy. maybe some people need a more dependable income, which this is not. it's a lot of fun most of the time tho... biggrin.gif
but last summer i did extremely well...paid for us a nice vacation and put a good down payment on a new car..all from online earnings...today, i'll do good to get a trip to McDonalds' doh.gif ..which is why hubby has to keep the real job. tongue4.gif
golderman
you can making money online..but need invers,take a risk..have a good fealing for deposits...etc
danfef1
QUOTE(hkartadi @ Jun 29 2006, 10:38 AM) [snapback]2386457[/snapback]

Dont tell me you put your money in solidinvestment as on your signature. The site is gonna blow soon.. I guess

i only have $100 in SI. most of my e0gold is with VIPINV. i started with SI until i found VIP nd bd talk about SI.
oonpoh
QUOTE(nothinggirl @ Jun 29 2006, 10:43 AM) [snapback]2386479[/snapback]

sometimes it's easy to make money around here, sometimes it's not so easy. maybe some people need a more dependable income, which this is not. it's a lot of fun most of the time tho... biggrin.gif
but last summer i did extremely well...paid for us a nice vacation and put a good down payment on a new car..all from online earnings...today, i'll do good to get a trip to McDonalds' doh.gif ..which is why hubby has to keep the real job. tongue4.gif


i guessed u;re refering to ST+ 12DP ......if i'm not wrong ....
xRealNinjuzx
Im glad not everyone does this.

I need someone to change my oil, serve me food, bag my groceries, build my houses, fix my plumbing and all the other things that I would never do myself.
Van Bassidor
Exactly, just consider yourself lucky to be informed.
minnow
+ most ppl aint got TIME to search 4 answers + LEARN - like yur doing - or they never owned a PC
danfef1
QUOTE(minnow @ Jun 30 2006, 03:44 PM) [snapback]2393281[/snapback]

+ most ppl aint got TIME to search 4 answers + LEARN - like yur doing - or they never owned a PC


verytrue. well let the continue to do what they do! and i'll continue to learn how to make moneyhere smile.gif
Indyan
It isnt very easy to make money online with all these scams etc.
Most people dont do it because they dont know about it.
Others dont as the easiest ways to make money (ponzi schemes) are unethical/illegal.
hkartadi

Not easy at all... unless you are lucky or very very lucky.
drakudemine
It is not that easy to gain money online, especially with HYIPs. In my view autosurfs are a little bit safer and HYIPs are just plain dangerous. We all know that sites will eventually dissapear and others will appear and probably we will all lose money. The fact with people not believing is just as a member said: people are more likely to be attracted by 8 hours per day jobs that are kind of secure. We are all risking money here. I think this is why people do not really get into online money making!
danfef1
QUOTE(drakudemine @ Jul 1 2006, 02:52 AM) [snapback]2395457[/snapback]

It is not that easy to gain money online, especially with HYIPs. In my view autosurfs are a little bit safer and HYIPs are just plain dangerous. We all know that sites will eventually dissapear and others will appear and probably we will all lose money. The fact with people not believing is just as a member said: people are more likely to be attracted by 8 hours per day jobs that are kind of secure. We are all risking money here. I think this is why people do not really get into online money making!



true, autosurfs are a little more reliable, but look at compctsurfing.com. everything thought that group of companies was stable and boom, some lame excuse about the price of gold dropping and everyone loses!

I like the risk involved. i gamble, and i feel that HYIP's as long as they are played correctlly, are a better gamble than most things. justdont keep all your eggs in one basket! spread them out and do your research!. yes everyone is going to lose money in this eventually, but i feel it is easy to make money as well
oonpoh
no ...HYIP ......is just like gambling in casino .....
u might win a few times here and there......
and
lost it all in times to come....


most serious investor will/most likely avoid them.....
danfef1
QUOTE(oonpoh @ Jul 1 2006, 06:29 AM) [snapback]2396105[/snapback]

no ...HYIP ......is just like gambling in casino .....
u might win a few times here and there......
and
lost it all in times to come....
most serious investor will/most likely avoid them.....



i know it is, but there are strategies to follow in casinos to minimize the risk of loss. If you 'play' HYIPs properly, you can minimize the risk of losing too much. Yes definately everyone willeventually lose some money,if not all their money in hyip's. i just hope i do things properly.
davidscript
QUOTE(danfef1 @ Jun 29 2006, 08:10 AM) [snapback]2385368[/snapback]

I dont get it. It is so easy to earn money online with stable investment programs and if you're willing, HYIP's. When i talk to friends and tell them the kind of money im starting to earn online, they all say its BS. If it was so easy, everyone would do it.

I just started almost a month ago and have already built up a nice little bankroll. As long as you stay safe, you can earn consistent money.


It takes a very twisted indivisual to mess with this stuff. It's almost like a religion that requires a strange kind of faith, and alot of people don't have that kind of faith it takes to dive back into another program after a major loss. Not everyone is as lucky as you were. I've built up a nice capital base but it took me 9 months of hard lessons and mistakes to get there. Bringing family and friends into this is like trying to convert them into a strange cult, they just don't understand, not to mention is probably the worse thing a person can do and is a sure relationship killer
danfef1
QUOTE(davidscript @ Jul 1 2006, 09:07 PM) [snapback]2399192[/snapback]

It takes a very twisted indivisual to mess with this stuff. It's almost like a religion that requires a strange kind of faith, and alot of people don't have that kind of faith it takes to dive back into another program after a major loss. Not everyone is as lucky as you were. I've built up a nice capital base but it took me 9 months of hard lessons and mistakes to get there. Bringing family and friends into this is one of the worse things a person can do and is a sure relationship killer


very true. as is MLM. anything that requires you to recruit friends and family is usually not a good thing. just try to make the best of it and not cave in
invest05
make money online not only on hyip & autosurf
but as well on ebay, affiliate and your own online business

if you you want make good income forget hyip & autosurf
95% change you got scams

selling items on ebay and affiliate less risk but less income
the best own your online business, sell your products and service




danfef1
QUOTE(invest05 @ Jul 1 2006, 09:43 PM) [snapback]2399319[/snapback]

make money online not only on hyip & autosurf
but as well on ebay, affiliate and your own online business

if you you want make good income forget hyip & autosurf
95% change you got scams

selling items on ebay and affiliate less risk but less income
the best own your online business, sell your products and service



that is true, but i cant stand affiliate programs and dealing with mailing lists, search engine crap, mlm, and whatever. tried it, not for me. i like the risk involved with HYIP. kind of a thrill. and everything i am doing right now is from profit, so i can only get richer tongue4.gif

i have started looking at ebay as an option. found some really great dropshippers. just trying to establish an ebay rating. ive only ever purchased 1 thing.
iral
QUOTE(danfef1 @ Jul 1 2006, 10:45 PM) [snapback]2399334[/snapback]

that is true, but i cant stand affiliate programs and dealing with mailing lists, search engine crap, mlm, and whatever. tried it, not for me. i like the risk involved with HYIP. kind of a thrill. and everything i am doing right now is from profit, so i can only get richer tongue4.gif

i have started looking at ebay as an option. found some really great dropshippers. just trying to establish an ebay rating. ive only ever purchased 1 thing.


I agree and disagree. I certainly agree that you can make money in this new field of online investing. I'll get to that. I disagree that surfs are more stable than hyips. TitanAD and Compact fell within the last 2 weeks...those were the belles of the ball.
The majority of my investments (non-surfs) are 6 months to 2 years old...which is super-aged in this business. There is no surf that is built on a solid business basis because there is no other major income other than new recruits. That defines ponzi....

Most of the programs I've invested in do not have referrals..I hate that part of the business.

Iral

P.S. (I didn't get so smart overnight. This knowledge was paid for by "hot programs" that vanished into the night.)


careful1.blogspot.com
danfef1
QUOTE(iral @ Jul 2 2006, 01:37 AM) [snapback]2399939[/snapback]

I agree and disagree. I certainly agree that you can make money in this new field of online investing. I'll get to that. I disagree that surfs are more stable than hyips. TitanAD and Compact fell within the last 2 weeks...those were the belles of the ball.
The majority of my investments (non-surfs) are 6 months to 2 years old...which is super-aged in this business. There is no surf that is built on a solid business basis because there is no other major income other than new recruits. That defines ponzi....

Most of the programs I've invested in do not have referrals..I hate that part of the business.

Iral

P.S. (I didn't get so smart overnight. This knowledge was paid for by "hot programs" that vanished into the night.)
careful1.blogspot.com


im sure im going to get burned too. its part of the game. im just hoping its not too bad smile.gif
souvy
Well believe it or not in the age of computers and AI, there are still lots of people who dont know how to use a PC
tom321567
you say very good ,me too try
danfef1
i figure theres a risk in anything you do. just play it right and ou can come out on top
businessmom
QUOTE(danfef1 @ Jul 2 2006, 02:09 PM) [snapback]2401949[/snapback]

i figure theres a risk in anything you do. just play it right and ou can come out on top



I am new to internet money making ..... one thing is for sure, you have to read and read and keep on reading before any results. Most ppl today feel secure being able to go into a building a punching a time clock where for sure they are to recieve a paycheck..... and not willing to take a risk on "to good to be true" oppurtunities. biggrin.gif
danfef1
QUOTE(businessmom @ Jul 2 2006, 01:35 PM) [snapback]2402459[/snapback]

I am new to internet money making ..... one thing is for sure, you have to read and read and keep on reading before any results. Most ppl today feel secure being able to go into a building a punching a time clock where for sure they are to recieve a paycheck..... and not willing to take a risk on "to good to be true" oppurtunities. biggrin.gif



risk is good. adds excitement. id rather sit here playing with gold all day than punch in at work 9-5
danilozwacka
It's not easy to eanr money in internet, that's why we are not billions of people! tongue4.gif
alexeow
QUOTE(danfef1 @ Jul 3 2006, 03:09 AM) [snapback]2401949[/snapback]

i figure theres a risk in anything you do. just play it right and ou can come out on top


Yes, and there is a risk in our life too but why people still want to survive? tongue4.gif
danfef1
QUOTE(danilozwacka @ Jul 3 2006, 05:56 PM) [snapback]2409066[/snapback]

It's not easy to eanr money in internet, that's why we are not billions of people! tongue4.gif


its easy enough. i am going to earn in 3 months, what takes me a year to earn offline

and thats after starting only a month ago smile.gif

to me thats easy Lighten.gif
oonpoh
QUOTE(danfef1 @ Jul 3 2006, 07:29 PM) [snapback]2409450[/snapback]

its easy enough. i am going to earn in 3 months, what takes me a year to earn offline

and thats after starting only a month ago smile.gif

to me thats easy Lighten.gif



I guess u're refering to HYIP .....all luck ....
danfef1
QUOTE(oonpoh @ Jul 4 2006, 06:39 AM) [snapback]2411488[/snapback]

I guess u're refering to HYIP .....all luck ....



not all HYIP, but some. i definately understand the risk involved, but i like the risk smile.gif
timeinvestor
Know your risk level and you'll know where you will be.
myshell
Just keep working at it.
danfef1
QUOTE(dpanuga @ Jul 5 2006, 02:16 PM) [snapback]2418487[/snapback]

well i have a job and i love it. but earning an extra income working online wouldn't hurt. it is really easy if you're really devoted and have patience.



very true. well, if the money is there, im willing to devote lots of time and patience smile.gif i cant stand my day job.
Student
QUOTE(danfef1 @ Jul 5 2006, 07:28 PM) [snapback]2419489[/snapback]

very true. well, if the money is there, im willing to devote lots of time and patience smile.gif i cant stand my day job.



I could not stand my day job either.

Last year, after making more money online - than my ofline job... I quit last Dec.

Truth is I kind of hit a psycological wall after Stormpay and some private programs turned scams (shortly after). sad.gif


Seems no matter how much planning I made for covering worst case scenerios... it has been nothing like I could have imagined (before quitting).

Thankfully, I am blessed with supporting wife and family, and gaining more knowledge in other areas.
danfef1
QUOTE(Student @ Jul 5 2006, 07:24 PM) [snapback]2419716[/snapback]

I could not stand my day job either.

Last year, after making more money online - than my ofline job... I quit last Dec.

Truth is I kind of hit a psycological wall after Stormpay and some private programs turned scams (shortly after). sad.gif
Seems no matter how much planning I made for covering worst case scenerios... it has been nothing like I could have imagined (before quitting).

Thankfully, I am blessed with supporting wife and family, and gaining more knowledge in other areas.



ya the stormpay thing was pretty crazy.

i am trying to do this carefuly as to minimize loss IPB Image. at least so i can take a nice trip for a while, IPB Imagethen go back to a day job if i have to lol
alexeow
QUOTE(Student @ Jul 6 2006, 11:24 AM) [snapback]2419716[/snapback]

I could not stand my day job either.

Last year, after making more money online - than my ofline job... I quit last Dec.

Truth is I kind of hit a psycological wall after Stormpay and some private programs turned scams (shortly after). sad.gif
Seems no matter how much planning I made for covering worst case scenerios... it has been nothing like I could have imagined (before quitting).

Thankfully, I am blessed with supporting wife and family, and gaining more knowledge in other areas.


Sorry to hear about the Stormpay issue. To minimize the risk, I would suggested you try to build multiple source of online income instead of sticking to only hyip/autosurfs. smile.gif
stargate
I think it is possible to make a living online. That is up until the Stormpay thing and then Compact thing and then there was the Pips thing and then there was ...................
oonpoh
QUOTE(stargate @ Jul 6 2006, 05:41 AM) [snapback]2422114[/snapback]

I think it is possible to make a living online. That is up until the Stormpay thing and then Compact thing and then there was the Pips thing and then there was ...................


sorry to hear that Pal .....
time to move on....
danfef1
There are scams in the real world just as there are online. You have to be careful where you put your money, and sometimes no matter what you do, tragedy cannot be avoided
forexmaestro
Only one month of it... I can't imagine a person would really know what they are doing after a month... programs are bound to be doing well after one month... only to disapear a few days later. Be careful.
danfef1
QUOTE(forexmaestro @ Jul 6 2006, 10:41 PM) [snapback]2426042[/snapback]

Only one month of it... I can't imagine a person would really know what they are doing after a month... programs are bound to be doing well after one month... only to disapear a few days later. Be careful.



i dont know 100% what i am doing. i am learning as i go. i know most will only be around a short time, and nevrer have any way of knowing when or if they will scam or pay. but i know if i do this properly, i can generate a decent income. not looking to become a millionare
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