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nothinggirl
anybody notice all the egold doublers popping up just since friday? ya don't think some of them might be trying to take advantage of that situation do you? ohmy.gif
i'm sure some actually might have honest admins, but does anybody else worry when they don't use intgold? just curious....
TheMobileHookup
Too scared to get verified and are preying on people like when the Freeworld script came out. That's my diagnosis of the situation and I don't join too many sites anyway so take it for what it's worth but my losses have surely been cut by not jumping.

If someone is too scared to get verified then I'm going to be too scared to get in.

e-Gold is as bad as Stormpay these days. They wanted verification from me and when I asked when they said everyone is asked for it. What a bunch of idiots. I have no problems verifying as everyone knows but tell me why don't BS me.
belial
QUOTE(nothinggirl @ Mar 7 2005, 09:01 AM)
anybody notice all the egold doublers popping up just since friday? ya don't think some of them might be trying to take advantage of that situation do you?  ohmy.gif
i'm sure some actually might have honest admins, but does anybody else worry when they don't use intgold? just curious....
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Kenny
Actually alot of egold only doublers started when Intgold sprung the "verify or else" thing on us. Scammers dont want to be tracked... simple as that.
stockbroker
QUOTE(Kenny @ Mar 7 2005, 01:38 PM)
Actually alot of egold only doublers started when Intgold sprung the "verify or else" thing on us. Scammers dont want to be tracked... simple as that.
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No. Not at all. The admin team of LSD is not a group of scammers simply because we did not want to verify intgold. We have a very strong feeling that some day the US Government will raid their offices and those that had large sums will have the IRS at their dorrstep.
moneymachine
There are rumours about intgold that are not so good. There is a general fear that it will end up like evocash. E-gold is the most stable e-currency by far. Why use any others?

Moreover the reason why e-currencies became popular in the first place is the freedom of anonymity. When people have to give up anonymity might as well use paypal or moneybookers right?

The fact is nothing beats e-gold.

Remember guys even a scammer can get verified by intgold. Just play games safely and do not be lulled into a false sense of security and you will be fine.
TheMobileHookup
QUOTE(moneymachine @ Mar 7 2005, 09:23 PM)
There are rumours about intgold that are not so good. There is a general fear that it will end up like evocash. E-gold is the most stable e-currency by far. Why use any others?

Moreover the reason why e-currencies became popular in the first place is the freedom of anonymity. When people have to give up anonymity might as well use paypal or moneybookers right?

The fact is nothing beats e-gold.

Remember guys even a scammer can get verified by intgold. Just play games safely and do not be lulled into a false sense of security and you will be fine.
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You might have missed my post about e-Gold asking for verification. They want notarized items. e-Gold is lying to me saying they require it from everyone. How many here have ever heard that BS? Why can't they tell the truth.

Not all people doing e-Gold are scammers but it gives people a place to hide.

Still say IntGold is the best of the whole group but they need better customer service, maybe hire extra people or something.

This is the e-Gold thing.

QUOTE
In order for us to remove the value limit from your accounts we will need
notarized due diligence documents.  Please mail (or preferably, use a
courier service such as Fed Ex or DHL) original notarized copies of all of
the following information:

a) A signed and notarized affidavit listing: Name, address, and telephone
number for the owner of e-gold account numbers 1xxxxxx & 1xxxxxx
cool.gif Copy of a telephone or utility bill that has the same address stated in
item A.
c) Notarized copy of Passport or Driver's license for the account owner.

Addressed to:

G&SR
175 East Nasa Blvd.
Suite 300
Melbourne, FL 32901
Attn: Due Diligence Unit

Thank You,
Due Diligence Unit
stockbroker
Eddie, that is standard with all e-gold accounts that get balance limited.
nothinggirl
well, i just don't like egold. i have always heard of egold accounts being hacked. guess i just feel a little better for some reason if a program uses intgold. especially knowing the verification they have to go thru now.
TheMobileHookup
QUOTE(stockbroker @ Mar 7 2005, 09:29 PM)
Eddie, that is standard with all e-gold accounts that get balance limited.
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Limited for no reason. I called and it was a whole back and forth thing but no reason. This is what they sent me and told me some crap about checking my IP and such to make sure...

Though I doubt they would do that...or would they...
stockbroker
QUOTE(nothinggirl @ Mar 7 2005, 08:31 PM)
well, i just don't like egold. i have always heard of egold accounts being hacked. guess i just feel a little better for some reason if a program uses intgold. especially knowing the verification they have to go thru now.
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E-Gold's servers have never been comprimised, people are just idiots with their computers.
stockbroker
QUOTE(TheMobileHookup @ Mar 7 2005, 08:32 PM)
Limited for no reason. I called and it was a whole back and forth thing but no reason. This is what they sent me and told me some crap about checking my IP and such to make sure...

Though I doubt they would do that...or would they...
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E-Gold has always been a gateway for money launderers, because of this accounts that are largely inactive then move several thousand are limited.
ASFx
QUOTE(stockbroker @ Mar 7 2005, 06:32 PM)
E-Gold's servers have never been comprimised, people are just idiots with their computers.
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Not true at all. My brand new account was hacked 3 hours after i sent $500 to it from a currency exchange. Security is one of my top priorities and my password for egold was never used anywhere else.
TheMobileHookup
QUOTE(stockbroker @ Mar 7 2005, 09:34 PM)
E-Gold has always been a gateway for money launderers, because of this accounts that are largely inactive then move several thousand are limited.
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Now this is true but they locked my personal account too. I don't have several thousand to move tongue.gif
stockbroker
QUOTE(TheMobileHookup @ Mar 7 2005, 08:38 PM)
Now this is true but they locked my personal account too. I don't have several thousand to move tongue.gif
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Most likely because you used the same IP and info on the other account.
stockbroker
QUOTE(ASFx @ Mar 7 2005, 08:36 PM)
Not true at all.  My brand new account was hacked 3 hours after i sent $500 to it from a currency exchange.  Security is one of my top priorities and my password for egold was never used anywhere else.
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TheMobileHookup
I'm just here to keep Stockbroker busy.

My IP changes but hey whatever. e-Gold sucks laugh.gif
stockbroker
QUOTE(TheMobileHookup @ Mar 7 2005, 08:42 PM)
I'm just here to keep Stockbroker busy.

My IP changes but hey whatever. e-Gold sucks laugh.gif
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I would take it over intgold any day. Soon enough intgold will be gone.

Do the words springpay and osgold pop into anyone's heads?
TheMobileHookup
QUOTE(stockbroker @ Mar 7 2005, 09:45 PM)
I would take it over intgold any day.  Soon enough intgold will be gone.

Do the words springpay and osgold pop into anyone's heads?
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Maybe...

We'll see. I think both will be gone or have heavy changes.
RoleConfusion
i dont think intgold will be gone anytime soon.. not sure about egold
moneymachine
Actually having a balance limit imposed by e-gold is not a disaster. You can still withdraw your e-gold to an exchanger or just open another e-gold account and spend to it....Unlike intgold which suddenly locked people out of their accts with no warning. Not a good move for a business planning on keeping clients happy one would think..hmmmmm
Marlena
I gotta agree with Stockbroker. Intgold is based in the US, not audited, backed by Intgold money? whatever that's worth (0), acts as a bank by doing the cheques and in-exchange/out-exchange thing and doesn't have a licence to transfer money between states to do that.

I don't know if they cleared up their back taxes with the State of Texas, either.

It's not Patriot Act--if it was it would be some kind of routine verification, not some wonky point system that changes weekly.

E-gold, OTOH, is both gold-backed and audited--and it's been around since 1996.

Customer service sucks at both of them, granted, but at least with e-gold you know it's real money. Intgold, I have serious doubts about.
TheMobileHookup
QUOTE(moneymachine @ Mar 7 2005, 09:49 PM)
Actually having a balance limit imposed by e-gold is not a disaster. You can still withdraw your e-gold to an exchanger or just open another e-gold account and spend to it....Unlike intgold which suddenly locked people out of their accts with no warning. Not a good move for a business planning on keeping clients happy one would think..hmmmmm
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What e-Gold did to me was the same thing...opening another or not was not the point. Exchangers aren't 100% either...it's going to be an ongoing debate but I'm just here to keep stockbroker busy excl.gif
TheMobileHookup
QUOTE(Marlena @ Mar 7 2005, 09:51 PM)
I gotta agree with Stockbroker. Intgold is based in the US, not audited, backed by Intgold money? whatever that's worth (0), acts as a bank by doing the cheques and in-exchange/out-exchange thing and doesn't have a licence to transfer money between states to do that.

I don't know if they cleared up their back taxes with the State of Texas, either.

It's not Patriot Act--if it was it would be some kind of routine verification, not some wonky point system that changes weekly.

E-gold, OTOH, is both gold-backed and audited--and it's been around since 1996.

Customer service sucks at both of them, granted, but at least with e-gold you know it's real money. Intgold, I have serious doubts about.
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e-Gold is still in the US. Only time will tell.

IntGold will cover the taxes on closed accounts tongue.gif

The point system isn't changing every week, just the dollar amounts and it's probably because people started opening a bunch of accounts as was suggested by many members here when IntGold decided to pop the brakes and make us get verified.
Marlena
QUOTE(TheMobileHookup @ Mar 7 2005, 06:54 PM)
e-Gold is still in the US. Only time will tell.

IntGold will cover the taxes on closed accounts tongue.gif

The point system isn't changing every week, just the dollar amounts and it's probably because people started opening a bunch of accounts as was suggested by many members here when IntGold decided to pop the brakes and make us get verified.
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If they're using closed accounts as a cash grab for back taxes, then you have even more to ninja.gif

And they still aren't licenced to transfer money between states, but they're doing it.

The verification still doesn't make sense. Granted, nobody knows what all is in the Patriot Act cos some of it's classified, but routine verification would be notarised passport and proof of residence, no? Not all this we'll give you one point for this and two points for that crap.

Let's just say that if you've watched the history of e-currencies, this isn't looking real good...
dantheman
prefer intgold to egold

simple and straight.

just cos many doublers are mostly scams, they use egold to mask their identity..
TheMobileHookup
QUOTE(Marlena @ Mar 7 2005, 09:58 PM)
Let's just say that if you've watched the history of e-currencies, this isn't looking real good...
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I agree with this part...

But I think IntGold has a lot of life left.
stockbroker
QUOTE(Marlena @ Mar 7 2005, 08:58 PM)
Let's just say that if you've watched the history of e-currencies, this isn't looking real good...
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BINGO! We have a winner.
nuk
QUOTE(stockbroker @ Mar 7 2005, 07:34 PM)
E-Gold has always been a gateway for money launderers, because of this accounts that are largely inactive then move several thousand are limited.
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You are definitely right about egold being a money laundering gateway and I am sure that I have passed some not so clean money through egold over the past few years.

There is just no rhyme or reason to how egold determines what gets limited and what doesn't. I had an acct 2 years ago that was passing around 50-60K a day that they wanted info on. Nothing *notarized* and easy enough to literally *produce* Yet, I know another admin that ran a 100K on its first day through a two day old acct and egold never said boo, even when it got to around 125K. I have also in the last two years ran 5 digit amounts through new egold accts with no questions asked. It is almost like what egold does is random.

I am not a big fan of Koleski or intgold, but maybe that is because I never have had an egold acct compromised at all and have been using egold since 1997. I still believe almost every alleged user hack is due to careless users and users with keystroke loggers and backdoors d/l on their PCs. When an admin says *hack* it is whack. Thanks Whitney Houston for that.

The simplest way to not get your egold acct *hacked* is to never type a password or acct number into egold's login screen. Ever. Use roboform and the only thing you have to type in is the almost impossible to read turing number. Since roboform encrypts, some dude can have a whole slew of keystroke loggers transmitting from your pc to his and get no access to your egold acct.

The idea that intgold is more scam-proof is silly. I have 4 different level 5 accts I created in Feb. and not a single one is actually me. A person bent on scamming is going to likely have eve more and also hype that he is *level 5 verified, u can trust me.* Uh, no you can't.
NUK
UNC
QUOTE(nuk @ Mar 7 2005, 07:43 PM)
I have 4 different level 5 accts I created in Feb. and not a single one is actually me. A person bent on scamming is going to likely have eve more and also hype that he is *level 5 verified, u can trust me.* Uh, no you can't.
NUK
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Wanna talk, biggrin.gif ...

Interseting...


All E-currencies have there downfalls..

Guess everyone will have there personal favorite.

Someone needs to make a new one and get it BIG smile.gif
nothinggirl
well, what i really hate about egold is that stupid one-time pin i almost always have to use. right now, i'm sitting here waiting to get that mail. sometimes i get it, sometimes i don't. dry.gif
nuk
QUOTE(Mistaken Identity @ Mar 7 2005, 08:50 PM)

Someone needs to make a new one and get it BIG smile.gif
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I am going to start NUKGUMMY. It will be backed by Black Forest Gummy Bears. If there is ever world war 3 and total chaos, what the hell good is a gold coin or gold bar going to be? *Hey mister, got change for this $500 Krugerand coin here?* Yeah right.

Now with Gummy Bears, you have something you can make smaller instantly! If you don't have to pay the whole gummy bear's worth, just rip his head off and you got change!

stranded somewhere in the desert? Floating around on a glacier? In Alabama? Since Gummy Bears are made with REAL FRUIT JUICE, it can be a vital source of nutrition! Try eating some egold or real gold and see what vitamins or minerals you get from that.

With NUKGUMMY, you hard-earned cash is safe as you can go to bed at night knowing that NUKGUMMY is 100% backed by Gummy Bears. Let's see the other processors match that!
NUK
UNC
Gummi bears are tasty..
yahoo.gif yahoo.gif

Sign me up laugh.gif
FinallyRetire
Personally, as my money gets paid out to Intgold I am transfering it out to e-gold (1MDC) and E-Bullion. I really feel Intgold has issues and they will only get worse. This is just my opinion, but I see the signs like many others do.

Kenny
I agree with Mike (finallyretire) The only thing that is currently paying me to Intgold is IT and PIN. Everything else has its own debit card or banking system (ST,PIPS). If IT sets up a banking deal like they are talking about. The only prob I will have is PIN. Maybe a jammie debit card?
nuk
QUOTE(Kenny @ Mar 8 2005, 06:54 AM)
I agree with Mike (finallyretire) The only thing that is currently paying me to Intgold is IT and PIN. Everything else has its own debit card or banking system (ST,PIPS). If IT sets up a banking deal like they are talking about. The only prob I will have is PIN. Maybe a jammie debit card?
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Anything that gives you a choice on payments, I always select egold, especially if it a prog that lets you originally spend with intgold. Don't trust Koleski and the Feb. 1 debacle has never been explained so you have to know it's bad. Totally changing how you do business with no notice isn't done unless it is because it had to be done immediately. Not much confidence in intgold.
NUK
Spacewebs
I personally prefer e-gold as I've had an account there since 2001 and have never had any problems with it. The problem people have with hacking is usually down to poor password security but there are also a number of trojans and keyloggers written explicity to target e-gold - but we all know not to open suspicious looking attachments we receive in our e-mails don't we? Especially ones claiming to be from e-gold.

One thing I wish e-gold did that Intgold does is the e-mail notification when you receive or make a payment. Sure, the history tells you all you need to know but it's nice to get an e-mail telling you that you've got some money to save having to check your account looking for new payments.
xmatrix
QUOTE(stockbroker @ Mar 8 2005, 02:29 AM)
Eddie, that is standard with all e-gold accounts that get balance limited.
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Can't you just transfer the e-gold to an account that isn't balance limited? Or is there a limit also in transfering money out?
UNC
Thats what I did when I had an old account limited...

Not sure why It was in the first place..

From then on.. I always kept my personal account number to myself.
dxdesign
QUOTE(nuk @ Mar 7 2005, 07:43 PM)
You are definitely right about egold being a money laundering gateway and I am sure that I have passed some not so clean money through egold over the past few years.

There is just no rhyme or reason to how egold determines what gets limited and what doesn't. I had an acct 2 years ago that was passing around 50-60K a day that they wanted info on. Nothing *notarized* and easy enough to literally *produce* Yet, I know another admin that ran a 100K on its first day through a two day old acct and egold never said boo, even when it got to around 125K. I have also in the last two years ran 5 digit amounts through new egold accts with no questions asked. It is almost like what egold does is random.

I am not a big fan of Koleski or intgold, but maybe that is because I never have had an egold acct compromised at all and have been using egold since 1997. I still believe almost every alleged user hack is due to careless users and users with keystroke loggers and backdoors d/l on their PCs. When an admin says *hack* it is whack. Thanks Whitney Houston for that.

The simplest way to not get your egold acct *hacked* is to never type a password or acct number into egold's login screen. Ever. Use roboform and the only thing you have to type in is the almost impossible to read turing number. Since roboform encrypts, some dude can have a whole slew of keystroke loggers transmitting from your pc to his and get no access to your egold acct.

The idea that intgold is more scam-proof is silly. I have 4 different level 5 accts I created in Feb. and not a single one is actually me. A person bent on scamming is going to likely have eve more and also hype that he is *level 5 verified, u can trust me.* Uh, no you can't.
NUK
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Well, my MP EG acct got wiped on friday of $980.
I am sure I had a keylogger and a password stealer in february, but the only place where I had any of my passwords was in roboform, which you say is encrypted.
No idea, they managed to get into my gmail to collect my PIN as well as take all that I had.
P.S. Never typed a password into E-Gold before...always been roboform.
enigma
QUOTE(dxdesign @ Mar 9 2005, 10:22 AM)
Well, my MP EG acct got wiped on friday of $980.
I am sure I had a keylogger and a password stealer in february, but the only place where I had any of my passwords was in roboform, which you say is encrypted.
No idea, they managed to get into my gmail to collect my PIN as well as take all that I had.
P.S. Never typed a password into E-Gold before...always been roboform.
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i've been using both robo and keepass and i think keepass may just be that little bitty more secure... just my gut feel anyway.
Marlena
Try using the SRK on e-gold's site--that bypasses the Windows subsystems completely.
Spacewebs
In case you haven't seen it, there's a set of security recommendations on e-gold's site:

http://www.e-gold.com/security.html
TheMobileHookup
QUOTE(matrix @ Mar 8 2005, 09:07 PM)
Can't you just transfer the e-gold to an account that isn't balance limited?  Or is there a limit also in transfering money out?
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We did that with TPS and that got shut down too.

Screw that.

I'm starting MobilePay or something tongue.gif

Actually I did think about it, not sure I want the headaches though...looking at Studiopay it looks like a script from ebay with a template. Someone has to come up with something better.
nothinggirl
oooooooooooh MobilePay. i like it! yahoo.gif
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