Senior member? Bad trick!
Hope that the admin come back and explain everything!

Because of his "No of posts.." till now..

Oh do tell us which you are speaking of? Because there are still some honest ones and we wouldn't want to confuse folks.

People need to stop with that "trusted/senior" stuff. The only people that trusted them were the people that put their money into this program. Who determines who is a "trusted/senior" member? I sure don't. Just because someone has built up a lot of posts here doesn't mean they are "senior" or "trusted". The only people you should trust 100% are the moderators and admins of MMG. With everyone else, you should always processd with caution and never blindly put 100% of your trust into anyone.

That means nothing.
He joined in November of 2005 and is member number 13,000+
Notice my member number is 25 and I was here since 2004.
There are others that have been around the forum that long too.

If that means something then Melle would be super senior since she has a ton of posts in General Chat. And she joined in August of 2005.

Number of posts does not make someone a senior member. Anyone can join the forum and post. It's free.

i just had a talk to her in yahoo messanger just now
but i dont have anything new to add
except this
"mel73_mmg: Gili?
mel73_mmg: and one thing
gil : yeahhh???
mel73_mmg: I will delete my Yahoo as well as my mail, so there is no point to mail me, I will delete all, as I told you already I am out of this LIAR world and shocked. please let them know
mel73_mmg: that will be my last eve here
mel73_mmg: on yahoo
mel73_mmg: just to say good bye
mel73_mmg: and I have just MMGs on my yahoo
mel73_mmg: thats why I will delete it
mel73_mmg: thanks
gil
mel73_mmg: oh and say one thing to keraloboy
mel73_mmg: please
mel73_mmg: in thread
mel73_mmg: that I do appreciate his opinion
mel73_mmg: CAUSE IT IS THE TRUTH
mel73_mmg: I wanted to do good
gil : i will post this conversation
mel73_mmg: th last?
mel73_mmg: ok you can
mel73_mmg: the other its worthless
mel73_mmg: but that now you can
gil meyami: ?
mel73_mmg: and please ask MODS to delete my account
mel73_mmg: the last converstion I meant
mel73_mmg: not the previous
mel73_mmg: get ti?
gil : oh ok
mel73_mmg: ok
mel73_mmg: thanks Gil

You are right...I mentioned him as senior only because he had run some HYIPs previously and is somewhat well known to all members in the HYIP subsection...

You can trust me. I am online since 1995. I am on icq since its launch.
GPF member for +3 years and MMG member since december.
My real address can be traced down easily as well. BUT, I would never start up a program.
And if I am ever involved in a program, it will be forex based.

maybe you guys shld know that hellyeah isnt all that honest that he's decked out to be. I have heard from investors that hellyeah didnt pay the refferal commission he promised in luxury surf. When they pmed him abt the cashback, he just ignored them! Thats tells you what a petty thief he is..so all this unfoldin isnt a surprise to me.

I have to add that she sure had no problem with carrying on for page after page ina nd endless and sensleess debate when the mods were replaced. One would think the closing of the program would be a bit more important???

Junior Member DQ

Sadly alot are falling preys to so called 'veteran' mmg members...do not lose your money to senior members thinking they wld b honest with your $$

So why did Melle start surf with him?
I can't believe in this all

I know only that I lost a few $$

The cheerleaders are the ones who use the things like he/she is Trusted/Vet/Senior blah... They know what there doing they know the game and they know the more noobs they trick the more they can make there Scammers too and aid the Admin to scam more people i love it when they get caught and don't get out before the first payouts nothing beats a scammer get scammed ..lol..

i see that Melle cant acess admin area,,, then how she will pay smthg back ?
maybe she have a db backup ... this can be a hope

are people in create two accounts in a hyip to milk ref com honest? or are they thieves?

Lemon the thing is that folks need to go with their instincts, not b/c someone is a MMG 'vet' but because they like what the program offers and have their diligent reasons for feeling safe at that point in time. There are sites that are being run by MMG members that are trustworthy. The thing is that no one is gonna know that for sure in any program whether its run by an mmg member or not. It's not fair for you to make blanket statements saying don't trust your money to any mmg member run programs, b/c just like with anything else, your gonna have some bad apples.

She did payments. I received a payment yesterday. Actually that was my second withdrawal from this program and with that I got my principal plus some back, so I didn't lose anything.





I think you're right about that keralaboy. I think that this HY used Melle's far too trusty nature and cheated both her and members. He probably had been watching Mel for a time and making friends with her knowing that she is not good with computers etc.

I believe Mel has a good heart and started this with good intentions. I know this was not a charity but a business, which Mel thought she could make an income for herself, too.

Knowing Mel for quite a few months now, exhanging PMs as well as long chats on Yahoo, I have learned a good deal of her character. I know she is not a scammer or cheater but there is something else (something she has privately confessed me, so I won't reveal it here) that makes her a bit unstable and has a very short spin. She is a person ready to act before much thinking. She also is a person who is easy to sweet talk to do things many others would be doubting to. We use to call those people 'blue eyed', meaning easy to trick.

Mel, if you are reading this, I hope you forgive me characterizing you here. I'm only speaking for your defense. I still love you and you can contact me anytime.

so i talked to her in yahoo
she doesnt want to come here
she said she will refund people
and she has no proof that what she said is true so i guess everyone will just have to wait to see if hellyeah comes back or something else happens....

So No1 has any info about hellyeah? Maybe adress, phone? Maybe it would help now.
It's time to settle scammers.
It remembers me situation with Todd from 5daygold

gilmey can u please ask melle how she made payments last nite without access to site xxx

And how her son is doing?

I remember one guy from SS as well.... seems any AS has its own "guy"

I lost $23 here, luckily I only invested small amounts. I hope my donation is enough to buy some medicines for her son hee hee.

mel73_mmg: I left my comp on 3 days to make payouts
mel73_mmg: now my IP changed
mel73_mmg: I am not lying
gil : so how will u refund?
mel73_mmg: I asked Hellyeah to give me access
mel73_mmg: I hope he will
mel73_mmg: this is what I am getting
gil : if not u wont be able to? maybe u can check egold history?
mel73_mmg: You don't have permission to access /control/ on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Apache/1.3.36 Server at www.lunarsurfing.net Port 80
mel73_mmg: hmm it will be hard
mel73_mmg: I have to find another way then
gil u have to do your best so people will trust u
mel73_mmg: yeah
gil : and how is your son doing?
mel73_mmg: he is ok, sleeping right now, but still fever
mel73_mmg: he has flu
mel73_mmg: stomach flu
gil i: ohhhh i hope it will pass soon
mel73_mmg: yeah me too
mel73_mmg: he is often sick
mel73_mmg: ok then tell them and I will go sleep now
gil : ok goodnight and i still want u to think of a way to prove that your innocence cause theres no way of beleiveing u this way ...
mel73_mmg: yes I know
mel73_mmg: and tell Raija (nenumphar) she is totally right and that I love her!
mel73_mmg: I will try
gil yes i remember nemumphar from hyip4fun she is nice
mel73_mmg: yes she is very
mel73_mmg: yes I will
mel73_mmg: try
gil : bye goodnight
mel73_mmg: goodnight

Now when she made the announcement about her son being sick...did she not know then about the e-gold account?

so what, melle cant even disable upgrades?

And there is currently still a ring of these noobs with huge post counts self proclaimed scam busters, and inside gurus, cheerleading their partner programs. (God its sooo stupid and pathetic) Constanly posting crap to bump up their "friends network".

They know the ponzi game and play it well sucking(scamming) in lots of noobs for rounds and rounds....


But slowly and surly they are all coming down... and the truth is being revailed.

P.S. Long live scammers paradise, and if you play the game of trying to scam the scammer, dont get angry when the scammer wins, its your fault for playing in the first place.

how about telling melle to come in here and post and answer peoples questions instead of hiding behind yahoo

The thing is..... WHERE was her husband?

Poor Melle, neet to take care houseworks + her son + family finance.

Gilmey, if you're talking to her then tell her to come here and straighten things out instead of hiding and looking guilty. Unless of course she is guilty and that's why she is hiding.

Then again she probably can't or won't.

well if she had a hubby like i had where i doen everything i can understand that one lol

i told her that she needs to come here
she is here as a guest seeing what u are writing
anyway she needs to prove her innocence...... thats what i told her but she siad she has no way of doing that
i told her that if she doesnt come here members wont trust her.....
and i told her that i hope she does the right thing
guess people will just have to wait.....
she said why am i taking the other side cause i knew her
i told her that i thought i knew her but she changed and she has to prove to me that she didnt do this mess....
but again-she has no proof so i guess everyone will have to beleive what he thinks is the truth

100% that something fishy was and going on here.

Mellle is so sad that she trusted the wrong persons. She did everything she could to run the site but Matt and now Hellyeah didn´t cooperate. And she is deeply hurt that people call her a scammer when she had every intention of paying. But couldn´t because Helyeah had the money ...what really stinks here is that Hyeah don´t come here and explain himself and takes care of ending the site in an orderly manner. He seems to have acces to the remaining funds so he can give those not in profit some sort of refund.
Come on Hellyeah....do the right thing.

melle hun trust me u have more chance of getting people to believe u if u r here in thread and helping members to get there money back from hellyeah if this is all true

but if u just run then it makes u look guilty

u prob have more info on hellyeah than u realise so come back in thread and let people help u with this of ur not involved


oh and im still waiting for an explanation from Dust

Sorry guys, if her son is really ill, this jokes are without taste... sorry

Unfortunately Jacob.. Hellyeah is probably reading this as a guest and saying to himself "hellno"

yeah, if I think of that Hellyeah is also member of TPR and will there get paid of our money as well it makes me pretty much

Sorry for that and just forget it. I know if you are a mother in your family this can be really hurts to you.

Wrong, she had the money it was her autosurf! If she gave him access to it and he ran, its still her fault for handing out members money.

she is too crushed and sad to come here now ...give her some time to get back on her feet and cry out over all the people who misused her trust.

the only problem is that she wants the mods to erase her account here i dont think she is coming back i just hope that she pays at least some members

She should take responsbility for her mistake of letting hellyeah access the egold account and do her best to track him down... She messed up and she should at least show her members an effort that she wants to make things right... Will she I haven't a clue.. I hope so..

Also..
Did Mel register the egold account in her name? I'm sure she had to at some point..... If its in egolds records she may be able to get access back... I don't know though... The funds are probably gone but ...

i agree with u 100 percent responsibility is the key word now

Her son is often ill I know it. This has happened many times before. There are so many things you
don't know about her life and if you knew you would not hurt her with those rude remarks. I'm sorry
I can't tell private things Mel has told me, but you can believe me that she has her own weight to
carry with her private life.

She has been before on this same kind of lynching bench before but then she had someone else
beside her. Now that coward GoToHell made the ugliest trick to her and left her standing
on her own.

She is just so heart and ashamed and voulnerable at this time that she doesn't have the strength
to come here, I can understand it. Think about if you were in her shoes at the moment. You probably
would do the same.

Mel did a bab judgement when she trusted that HY guy. She paid all the money she could with what she
had access to and now it would be time to get that other part of the game to the get lynched.

jaco with respect love, i kno u well and u know me

but melle should be here sorting this mess out

it ws her site which she included others in

she cant just run off when it gets rough and the more she hides the more it looks like she was part of the fraud

now to be honest it would be better for all that she showed her face here and helped


melle come back hun cos what ur doing is just making things worse

if ur sincere then coming back wont be as bad as u think

hulk from DE thought same and he come back, now he has another proggy running and more trusted members than he had in first

if ur genuine and this is real then come back

if u run and hide then ur guilty ... sorry

From the very first day as soon as this thread was started ... i feel it is juts a Drama not a site because 99% of the posts in this thread were not releative and juts they keep on posting useless posts to keep this thread on the top and make some reliable position on MMG by showing much posts in this thread..

Same thing i posted over here in this thread few days ago mentioning lot of useless post over here and why u r going to stage a drama juts to keep this thread up.. But both of the admins got angry and shouting at me even few memebrs also .. but i know from the very first day very soon both them will scammed the peoples dats why even after joining and upgrading this site i keep on asking some sensative questions from admin but each time they got angry and asked me to take u r refund and dont post such things over here.. Thanx God i got my refund few days ago and left that site..They refund me at that time as they were in the last stage to scam the people and they dont want me over here as member....

Anyhow i got my refund few days ago but i m really sad for other members who lost their money juts by trusting on senior members which i didnt and got my refunds.. as i dont like the way they are doing over here drama just to keep the thread on the top.

However what u say but i m sure they both were in that scammed Drama as each and every time both of them got angry on me whenever i asked such question..

I m again sory for u and really feeling bad abt those so called senior members who support both of them but they really crush the trust of all senoir members who helped them both to run the site and keep the thread alsive...

Hogwash - just another of your innuendo filled shots at those who have exposed scam programs you have been a member of. IMHO, I do not think you make many friends among MMG's mods and honest members when you post such things. The members you take shots at have been thanked time and again for their help in exposing scams and multiple IDs and saving hundreds of MMG members untold thousands of dollars.

60% or your posts have been in closed and scam programs and I venture that those posts have NOT been as an opponent. Although I am NOT a scambuster, self appointed or otherwise, by comparison, 44% of my posts have been in such programs and a very large percentage of those posts have been as an opponent helping to save unwitting investors from being lured into programs that pay off only the insiders, cheerleaders, promoters and perhaps lucky investors who get in at the first with the money of those who are duped by fake accounts, fake stats, BS about Forex trading, etc. You might say that such programs pay mainly those who are there for "fast cash just for themselves".

Now, I know this is somewhat off topic - but that post does not deserve to stand publicly without being challenged. I would be happy to continue this debate in private via PM.

DQ

WTF? Gone already? I was just surfing the damn site waiting on my pending still. Are we supposed to get any sort of refunds?

i'm SHOCKED! i have no other words... i guess we will have to see how this plays out.