Hmmm Mel..

So your picking a partner for your project yet you do not know any of there information? Trusting a complete stranger.. If hellyeah really stole the gold Why wouldn't you contact him via phone or other means.....

I find it very hard to believe that you would trust a complete stranger or someone you just had Yahoo conversations with to be have access to egold and be "co-owner" of a program..

This of course if your innocent ...

Or maybe you were foolish enough to allow someone you had a few Yahoo convos with have full access and be co admin with you


My two cents..

Some people were asking where I was...
I'm here, I'm in the same boat as all of you...


but you are a mod!

NO, I'm not... A nigh before all this mess starts I PM'ed melle saying that I couldnt be a mod anymore because I'm cutting expenses and one of them would be my DSL conection, so I would not be online so much time...


So, as I said, I'm in the same boat as you, waiting...
I just wish the best of luck to everybody here, sometimes we win, sometimes we lose
if u do not follow the first rule of everything: DO NOT INVEST MORE THAN WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE, it's not my fault, it's yours...
I've lost several times and I know how sadit is, but you cannnot win everytime..

My Best Regards,
Killian

I thought that Melle said you weren't a member?

I'm not...
on the same boat I mean of beeing disappointed, a program that had everything to be great...

How well did you know Hellno? or Melle? Do you have either of their contact info?

Melle if you are reading maybe..

I would just like to ask you, if you can arrange that site goes off net, since some members might not read forum and can upgrade, so at least would be good to disable upgrades, so no one can make mistake..

lol
I knew hell yeah from other programs, we've talked a lot, so we knew each other...

and melle, I saw her sometimes around and maybe exchanged some words, than we chated on yahoo some too

ARe you serious? I didn't even check that! Come on now... Melle.... you are really making yourself look worse here. You were enough of a "vet" to know that if you didn't want to appear as scamming, that you'd disable the upgrades....

Your lifetime support membership is wasted. you should ask Jason for a refund

Who the hell is going to run a site and not have the benefit of inside knowledge. If is thats easy why dont you start one yourself. I am not going to waste my time with you because my members need me which is a good thing!


@GILMEY- I agree with your points 100%. I did start to look at melle differently after the way she started to act towards you after HYIP4FUN. And yes the stats in jointventure were fake. AND she tried to get in some sort of nasty competition with us with was unwarranted.

Anyway I lost my trail of thoughts because finix has really ticked me off

And yes once again, melle trusts some who she doesn't even have a phone number for

Ok.. that's cool. Sorry, they somewhat dragged you into this. Although it would be pointless, could you pm me their yahoo id's? Thanks

Glad you understood me...
I'll PM you in a moment, dont worry

Yeah Blizz.. I do check this... on my early start I was not member of forums and I got two times burned this way.. felt really stupid.. so now I just want to prevent some newbies or people who doesnt check forums to make same mistakes I did...

Ok... i got it. Thanks Killian

yeah thnk u you supported me alot more
i remember that u saw her in my thread of my site and u said to her "arent u going to say hi to your old partner" and she didnt answer
ilike i said i think the money changed her.....
my site didnt do that well then cause i didnt fake anything -im glad that u were in profit there

I want refund !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My conversation with Mel this morning:

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Melanie Schneider: Hi Dust
Dust: hey mel
Dust: what is up with LS?
Dust: I read your post in mmg
Melanie Schneider: its the truth what I told
Dust: hellyeah taking over the e-gold account?
Melanie Schneider: yeah, no access, I have none
Dust: that was a bad move on your part
Dust: I'm sure you realize that now
Melanie Schneider: to give him pass?
Dust: yeah
Melanie Schneider: hmm
Melanie Schneider: he was my partner 50%
Melanie Schneider: so its clear for me
Melanie Schneider: but IT WAS WRONG ALL WAS WRONG
Dust: I never would have done it, but that was up to you and you got burned
Melanie Schneider: yes
Melanie Schneider: I am like that
Dust: so what now?
Dust: any word form hy?
Melanie Schneider: there was no reason to distrust him
Melanie Schneider: no
Melanie Schneider: no conatct
Dust: you have his phone number? address? email?
Melanie Schneider: no
Melanie Schneider: just mail
Dust: wow
Melanie Schneider: he doesnt want to answer me
Melanie Schneider: Dust not wow, I am not guilty
Melanie Schneider: he was also admin
Dust: I didn't say you were guilty of taking money
Melanie Schneider: I paid all that I had
Dust: just guilty of a poor business decision
Melanie Schneider: hmm
Melanie Schneider: dont know
Melanie Schneider: I wish you all good Dust and take care, I wont come back but let them know I will pay them once I got the money from GS surf
Dust: if you're able to payout all pending then you will have exited gracefully and will save face
Dust: and hy will be the one holding the bag
Melanie Schneider: no, Hellyeah has the most as I told you, in the sites egold and 4 k in his own I have NO access
Dust: I know that has to make you very angry
Melanie Schneider: yes very
Melanie Schneider: and I am shocked
Melanie Schneider: and I wont be in this business anymore
Melanie Schneider: I finished
Melanie Schneider: too many ass out there
Dust: yeah
Melanie Schneider: it was my site
Melanie Schneider: and I was here 24 hours
Melanie Schneider: and they took away
Dust: I'm sorry for all of that
Melanie Schneider: yes me too, mmg was my 2.home and I am shocked about all those speculations now
Melanie Schneider: the only one who was right- was aqua marine
Dust: you can't blame the people
Melanie Schneider: hmm
Dust: you were in charge of their money
Melanie Schneider: I told the truth on 100%
Melanie Schneider: yes
Melanie Schneider: but HY also
Melanie Schneider: and now its up to him
Dust: they are upset becasue their money is gone
Melanie Schneider: to end it
Dust: I realize that, but you still have to take responsibility
Dust: you were the admin who started the site
Dust: you brought hellyeah on
Melanie Schneider: for what? for dishonesty of the second admin???? no
Dust: you gave hellyeah the e-gold password
Melanie Schneider: yes but they knew that he is the 2. admin
Dust: no, not for the dishonesty of the 2nd admin
Melanie Schneider: so they trusted him too
Melanie Schneider: anyway, I wont come back
Dust: I know, but you still have to take responsibility since you brought the 2nd admin on
Dust: I don't think you are understanding what I'm saying...
Melanie Schneider: hmm dont think so cause many people joined after that
Melanie Schneider: I understand
Melanie Schneider: fully
Melanie Schneider: but I was not the chef
Dust: ???
Melanie Schneider: boss
Dust: then who was?
Melanie Schneider: we both were boss
Dust: it seems like you don't want to take any responsibility for what happened
Dust: yes, hy is the one who is blocking/taking the money....
Melanie Schneider: yes I gave him the pass
Melanie Schneider: my fault
Dust: but YOU were the one who brought him on and made him an admin and gave him full access
Melanie Schneider: I know that now Dust
Dust: that is what I'm trying to say
Dust: especially since you only have his email as a contact
Melanie Schneider: yes I know
Dust: (not to make you mad), but that wasn't too bright
Melanie Schneider: yeah
Melanie Schneider: so now I will go now
Melanie Schneider: take care Dust
Dust: I wish you the best
Melanie Schneider: you too
Melanie Schneider: thanks
Dust: hopefully you'll be able to payout rest of pending
Melanie Schneider: yes me too
Melanie Schneider: bye
Dust: don't worry about mine
Dust: I'm already $10 in profit
Melanie Schneider: ok
Dust: use any of mine to payout any other members who were not in profit
Melanie Schneider: ok thanks
Dust: ttyl
Melanie Schneider: bye
Dust: Hey mel, you still there?
Melanie Schneider: yes
Dust: you should take the site offline so nobody else upgrades
Melanie Schneider: I CANT, as I already said I have NO access to all and I told Hellyeah
Dust: you don't have access to the LS site either??
Melanie Schneider: to admin no
Melanie Schneider: cause of my IP
Melanie Schneider: as I already told on MMG
Dust: what was your IP address when you made the change?
Melanie Schneider: dont know
Melanie Schneider: I have no static thats why
Dust: anyway, why don't you contact the hosting company and ask them to give you access to your cpanel???
Melanie Schneider: I dont know why HY does not take it down
Melanie Schneider: cause he was on mmg
Melanie Schneider: and he know all
Dust: what do you mean you don't know what your IP address was when you made the change??
Dust: how did you know what IP address to give access to?
Melanie Schneider: I know only mone from NOW currently
Melanie Schneider: thats all
Melanie Schneider: its changing every day
Dust: that doesn't make sense to me
Melanie Schneider: hmm
Melanie Schneider: hellyeah changed it every day so that I have access with my currently
Dust: if you made the site accessible from only your IP and hy's IP, then you would have HAD to know what your IP address was when you made the change
Melanie Schneider: and now he hasnt
Melanie Schneider: even if I pleased him to
Melanie Schneider: yes
Melanie Schneider: I have NO static IP
Dust: so, what was your IP address the LAST time you had access?
Melanie Schneider: I dont know Dust, it changes everyday anHY didnt give me access now, cause its changed. I dont have it in my mind, I am just looking at the currently on whatismyip.com
Melanie Schneider: and gave him to change
Dust: you never kept record of it?
Dust: I hope you learned some things...
Melanie Schneider: I have learned alot, I will never come into that business again
Melanie Schneider: and one thing for sure: NEVER trust someone who you really dont know about 1 year
Melanie Schneider: minimum
Dust: I'm going to change the dns for lunarsurf.net so it won't point to the site
Melanie Schneider: ok good
Melanie Schneider: thank you
Melanie Schneider: I am off for now
Melanie Schneider: bye
Dust: bye

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I've changed the dns settings so lunarsurfing.net will not come up after the dns propagates....

WHERE IS HELLYEAH?????

You have got to be kidding me....she doesn't have HellYeah's contact info and he has access to the money. This is just too STUPID!!!

blizz there hotmail and yahoo id r there for everyone to see in there member profiles on MMG

Why does she keep saying that she is going to pay pending payouts...she should be refunding people that are not in profit like myself and tons of others.

i have a question


if melle had to get hellyeah to update her ip into the system every day then how did she log in yesterday to make payments

she previously said that she hadnt heard from him in 36 hours so he wouldnt have known what her ip was yesterday to update it??

i really hope she will do the right thing...
mel plz answr me in yahoo i want to talk to u

If she is so innocent then why isn't she here to say something to the members? Makes her look even worse and guiltier....

She talks to the person with 5 posts but not the other members of the site?...
Hmmmmmmmmmm...

could you pm me her yahoo and personal email please? thanks.

Oh... I didn't even look there yet Aqua... But Killian pm'd me so I have them now... and like I said, they are of no use anyway, but it doesn't hurt to try.

her yahoo and hellyeahs yahoo and emails r visible for everyone in there profile on MMG click on there names and ist brings u there

This is really a darned shame


Exactly... because she is lying... how cheap is that?

dust how come u have her on yahoo hun when u only have 5 posts here

is this convo staged or u had a previosu mmg name ?


EDIT

also Dust as u said in a previosu post u been a member here since april but u only ever posted in this thread

now that seems odd to me

why you keep on going only behind her?? And Hellyeah is a saint or what?

Hell No Hell Yeah is no saint.

I need to get out of this thread. This is Jerry Springer type stuff.

aqua, most people have melle on yahoo. i think you are going after the wrong person. and i am a member of some forums but never post there.

Is he here to post anything or communicating in any way?

They're both guilty as sin or so it seems.
Everyone KNOWS Hellno is guilty here and Melle is making it look like she is so....

But the conversation posted was with HER

Everyone wants to blame everyone else surrounding a situation except the one who said she'd do this and do that and isn't here and not even making an attempt to do so.

yeah not much flaming for hellyeah i mean he must be guilty otherwise he would here saving his a$$ ...

Really sad to see that all these bad things are happening to honest and trustable admins....I have 100% trust on Melle as I was a member of her previous HYIPs...And about Hellyeah...I lost in most of the HYIPs he started and I found that he was paying in an irregular manner.... like paying some of his known MMG friends first..without considering who requested first.....So I stopped depositing in his previous HYIP...Anyway here I invested trusting Melle and the worst happened here also... Hellyeah is the scammer for sure...

im not so sure love

they only posted in this thread and only 5 posts

they cant add mel to yahoo cos they dont have enuf posts to pm her and ask her to add them

I wasn't involved in lunarsurfin.. but i will say one thing. Hellyeah scammed me out $50.00 in referral commission. I signed up under him for one of his referral commission cash back offers in another surfing program. 2 days after he should have gotten paid i sent him a pm and asked he was paid yet. I never received my money or a response from him. This was about 2 weeks ago. The surf site wasn't having any problems at that time either.

Well Netty,
It seems that we all know Hellyeah is guilty in this especially since he's nowhere to be found. But it also seems that Melle isn't giving us the entire truth here.

Dust was mod for Phoenix-Surf only he got the boot for being to truthful.. lol...

He seams a good guy just a mod nothing more than that .

Wow, was gonna join this one, this is the first time I am glad I didn't have any money in my EG acct to do it. Sure didn't last very long, not even 1 month, pretty sad. Guess that what happens when you have ppl runnning these things that don't know what they are doing and equally hire ppl to be part of the staff that don't know what they are doing and scammers to boot.

i still can't found it, can you just pm me her email please? thanks.

Looks like a cheap BS excuse, and a preplanned scam to me.

I have said it once ill say it again, never trust anyone when money is envolved. I dont care what color there nick is is, or how long they have been on MMG. In my time i have seen ALOT of "trusted" members turn scammers, and many more are still to come.

But every time i say this i always get critiscised. Go figure, looks like people love loosing money.

Melle would be really shocked with this it is obvious that she would not be in a mentality to reply each and everyone now...She made one big mistake as she trusted Hellyeah,as he is a senoir member.....And Hellyeah's intention was to run away...

so why is dust back if he got banned?

Yeah Blizz, but in my humble opinion...

Mell did make at least some payments... there were some happy dancing members... no matter lying now or not, making bad excuses or not.. we can not prove if she is lying or telling truth.
She had courage to show her face at all... And Hellyeah even didnt bother to post a single word here..

Well and now at end, most of members are catching every word that Melle gave and HY is on his way to airport with full pockets.


So much about chicken having no guts to show his face here even...

The thing that makes me mad is that she is not taking responsibility for bringing him on and making him her co admin.

well im not defending here. just saying that people need to focus on melle and hellyeah. that is if they ever decide to come back. And she doesnt have to pm her, its in the profile for all to see.

Yeah it not the first time this has happened and it will happen again infact it is happening again with one program the same old TRUSTED MMG member B.S used by cheerleaders to lure noobs into the Scam.. Only when you point it out you get flamed best to keep quiet and hope the cheerleaders get caught in there own trap and get scammed

Senior member of what? Not this forum because he's not.

The words trusted and senior member need to stop being thrown around.

People who joined this year or late last year and posted a million times are not senior members.

i kno london sweets but to be honest Dust hasnt answered my post and to be honest i think theres a connection

i just feel that convo is staged but coudl be wrong

If you watch what happned really, you can see that Melle started the program with good intention(as the site is paying only 26% after 14 days..Initially there was no weekly withdrawal option also and referral comm was 3%...so Melle's plan was to make it a stable autosurf for a long time)...

After 2-3 days Hellyeah started supporting Melle and so many things changed like weekly withdrawl, increased referral bonus etc.. etc..Melle thought Hellyeah was doing all this for good..But HE was actually plannig everything...He cheated Melle....
Just my thought...

What a shame that a program that seemed to be set up for really big success would end in such a travesty. Good thing there are quite a few newcomers who seem to be legit and have their act together now. Too bad this one wasn't one of them.

Jeeez - it looks like the scam section needs a new wing just for the vets these days! Same thing for the banned member group. All I can say is three cheers for MMG on the bannings - it is about time for one particular group to get cleaned out! If I were a vampire I would be moving my coffin right now! I haven't seen so many get the stake since Van Helsing was around!

DQ