And i really hope this site isn't going to close. It would be another disappointment for many of us.
I hope you will not close and fight back!
Thineke
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Well I think it would be a very bad idea to give in to extortion
And i really hope this site isn't going to close. It would be another disappointment for many of us. I hope you will not close and fight back! Thineke QUOTE(lolaa @ Jun 16 2006, 01:03 AM) [snapback]2313319[/snapback] How can that mod disrespect admins decision n bring all those business matters in pubic? It's admin duty, she'll do what she feels better for the program. And what she did? She just hired another mod that's all! Now how can a mod disrespect that decision and bring all the bussiness matters in public when he wasnt even replaced at all? It was tottaly intentional at my opinion. And now what i can see is he is trying to blackmail admin again?! Of course we would ban anyone who tried to blackmail or extort another MMG member. Anyone who read that conversation would see that matratzac did no such thing. QUOTE(hkartadi @ Jun 16 2006, 12:49 AM) [snapback]2313259[/snapback] hm... I just love changing my siggy wakakakakaka,,,,time count down... i don't want like my avatar..
Go to bed and sleep a little more, i see that you are depressed and you need to rest, because you can't think clearly. Maybe i mistake, but...
QUOTE(ASFx @ Jun 16 2006, 12:06 AM) [snapback]2313329[/snapback] Of course we would ban anyone who tried to blackmail or extort another MMG member. Anyone who read that conversation would see that matratzac did no such thing. Jason I am shocked sorry but I am really QUOTE(melle51203 @ Jun 16 2006, 03:50 AM) [snapback]2313267[/snapback] you can request today, payout will be tomorrow please understand I was on the whole night again due to this mess and its 9.50 am here in germany Mel my best advice is to just quit trying to convince them to stop & just ignore them ... they are gonna post whatever they feel like posting anyways ... right now they feel they have thier hooks into you & they will bleed you dry if you let them. Reguardless of whatever crap they might say ,if you act like a standup admin & put your site & your members before whatever they might say about you , LunarSurf will contine to grow & be successful.
I requested my first withdrawal
I really hope LunarSurfing goes on but I see now why matt is banned from MMGe ...him and all hiss seedy scams, now he is into blackmail too!!! He is a prizewinning sociopath! And zac ...As much as I like you for the person you are, this really doesn´t look good ...who do you think will do business with you after this?
Melle still has my support QUOTE(melle51203 @ Jun 15 2006, 11:12 PM) [snapback]2313105[/snapback] I am sorry to tell you but cause of an extortion, we might be forced to close Lunar here is what I had today> a converstion between me and our ex Mod Zac *the man with Volume 3* matratzac: you give me what you think I deserve matratzac: I edit the posts matratzac: I talk about how I had a long convo with u matratzac: thats what i say matratzac: and all trust in you is restored and everything is fixed mel73_mmg: but how much? matratzac: how much what, im not saying what you think im thinking bc i know you could post it on mmg and potentially get me in trouble mel73_mmg: and I would give you all will be forgotten? matratzac: I forgive easily matratzac: what I do matters more than what matt does matratzac: people already think hes crazy matratzac: and they dont believe any of his posts anyway matratzac: so it matters more what I MYSELF say if i edit my posts than what he says mel73_mmg: yes I know that mel73_mmg: let me think matratzac: I will edit my 1st post right now matratzac: so you can see that I'm serious mel73_mmg: so but then all will be good? matratzac: yes matratzac: i proomise mel73_mmg: you will post that it wasnt seriuos? matratzac: yes matratzac: I edited volume 3 matratzac: but I have in on word document matratzac: I can very easily repost it mel73_mmg: why repost? mel73_mmg: I thought you wont do matratzac: I wont matratzac: if you give me what you feel i deserve mel73_mmg: and what- friendship or material? mel73_mmg: matratzac: U already brought up friendship matratzac: give me what you feel i deserve matratzac: and everything will be ok mel73_mmg: what will you do if I wont give you somthing? matratzac: Most of all I will be dissapointed in you mel73_mmg: yes and you will repost it???? matratzac: yes i can easily repost it mel73_mmg: and you would do that? matratzac: bc i would feel betrayed mel73_mmg: but if I would give you sth- you will shut up? mel73_mmg: yes or no? mel73_mmg: need to know for sure matratzac: yes mel73_mmg: Zac, why dont you wanna clear this matter up? mel73_mmg: or you want to make it in friendship? matratzac: volume 3 is back up and posted in the thread mel73_mmg: WHY? mel73_mmg: why did you do that? mel73_mmg: tell me how much you deserve mel73_mmg: did you edit your post again? matratzac: matratzac: yup mel73_mmg: to what? mel73_mmg: good? mel73_mmg: or bad? matratzac: what it was before matratzac: i changed it back mel73_mmg: oh why? matratzac: bc u arent doing anything mel73_mmg: tell me what mel73_mmg: Zac please matratzac: I want you to come up with it on your own matratzac: I'm not going to tell you anything mel73_mmg: then how can I know mel73_mmg: ? matratzac: u know mel73_mmg: I dont know what you need I thought friendship again matratzac: I dont need friendship, if anything you need MY friendship bc your site is gonna fail unless you come up with something mel73_mmg: Lunar will fail? matratzac: If I keep my posts up on mmg mel73_mmg: how can you be so sure? matratzac: fine matratzac: just wait then matratzac: ull see for urself mel73_mmg: so you think Lunar will fail? matratzac: do you really need to ask me that mel73_mmg: yes matratzac: matratzac: ok well matratzac: im about to go to bed matratzac: unless you can think of something that|s what I got from Matt in the meantime> Mark James: he edited the post mel73_mmg: he doenst want to tell me what he deserves mel73_mmg: mel73_mmg: and he changed it back Mark James: what do u think he deserves? Mark James: he wants you to decide mel73_mmg: hmm mel73_mmg: I need a bit guide Mark James: i am not sure, i am not him mel73_mmg: me too mel73_mmg: any suggestion? mel73_mmg: do you have or no? mel73_mmg: Mark James: nope Mark James: not really Mark James: any ideas on what he needs mel73_mmg: hmm Mark James: what do u think he needs mel73_mmg: dont know- I thought friendship? Mark James: well he is in college Mark James: it's expensive Mark James: i dk mel73_mmg: but how much???? Mark James: enough to split between the two of us? mel73_mmg: how much? Mark James: your choice Mark James: whats fair Mark James: give us a nice surprise? Mark James: melanie - just be careful mel73_mmg: with? Mark James: all mel73_mmg: what do you mean? Mark James: like what you are saying Mark James: with zac Mark James: im not really sure mel73_mmg: what? mel73_mmg: what do I say? Mark James: i i dont know, he is acting funny Mark James: hmm LS thread is a bit slow Mel so what is that I am member since almost one year, never did anything wrong. Zac has alredy got banned one time and you took him back and why is he allowed to do that with me cant believe
Melle, i highly suggest that you just continue to run your program and stop discussing the extortion nonsense. People want to be updated onthe status of your program and im sure they really don't want to hear about zac. Run your program professionally, don't contribute to arguments in your thread, and of course, don't use a little issue with one person cause you to close your whole program.
Melle your program is running great, keep it running nicely. go on. forget the extortion issues
QUOTE(ASFx @ Jun 16 2006, 12:14 AM) [snapback]2313373[/snapback] Melle, i highly suggest that you just continue to run your program and stop discussing the extortion nonsense. People want to be updated onthe status of your program and im sure they really don't want to hear about zac. Run your program professionally, don't contribute to arguments in your thread, and of course, don't use a little issue with one person cause you to close your whole program. this is not nonsense for me that is a thing which I worked hard for and that is an update of our program, nothing more!
dear ADMIN...
we are still trust YOU...!!!!
thanks for the roses
yes I know that you have good contact with Matt but I was talking from Zac QUOTE(melle51203 @ Jun 16 2006, 01:17 AM) [snapback]2313393[/snapback] this is not nonsense for me that is a thing which I worked hard for and that is an update of our program, nothing more! Your arguments with an ex-partner/employee have nothing to do with your program. Let's end this discussion now, stay on topic, and discuss your program. matratzac will no longer be posting in this thread, so there is no need to discuss him further.
If you keep paying the members, Zac cant do anything.
QUOTE(melle51203 @ Jun 16 2006, 01:19 AM) [snapback]2313399[/snapback] thanks for the roses yes I know that you have good contact with Matt but I was talking from Zac I dont know any of your real names. I was referring to MATratzac QUOTE(Indyan @ Jun 16 2006, 01:20 AM) [snapback]2313407[/snapback] If you keep paying the members, Zac cant do anything. absolutely..Agree !!!!
Mel...
just put all of this behind you... and continue running your program as you have been,,, your members support you... there is no reason to close LS...
I am off for now
I am speechless what happened. and I am disappointed of MMG I am really disappointed. QUOTE(melle51203 @ Jun 16 2006, 01:24 AM) [snapback]2313427[/snapback] I am off for now I am speechless what happened. and I am disappointed of MMG I am really disappointed. Don't worry. As long as you stick with updating your members about your program, continue to pay everyone, and don't close, everything will be perfectly fine QUOTE(ASFx @ Jun 16 2006, 01:26 AM) [snapback]2313436[/snapback] Don't worry. As long as you stick with updating your members about your program, continue to pay everyone, and don't close, everything will be perfectly fine yeah....... QUOTE(ASFx @ Jun 15 2006, 11:57 PM) [snapback]2313297[/snapback] Melle, nobody is extorting you. When reading that cconversation, its very obvious that matratzac was simply trying to ask you to pay him what you thought he deserved for the work he did. Do not try to turn it into an extortion attempt. Closing your program then trying to blame it on matratzac would be a poor excuse. Your program is running fine without him unless people keep making a big deal out of it. You are running this program, so you decide how much to pay him for his work. Sorry To Say But I'm Not Getting U Too!!! N Then In The Conversation At Yahoo Cant U See The Simle Line He Said? - QUOTE matratzac: how much what, im not saying what you think im thinking bc i know you could post it on mmg and potentially get me in trouble So Wt Does That Mean? N Then Again QUOTE mel73_mmg: Lunar will fail? matratzac: If I keep my posts up on mmg mel73_mmg: how can you be so sure? matratzac: fine matratzac: just wait then matratzac: ull see for urself mel73_mmg: so you think Lunar will fail? matratzac: do you really need to ask me that mel73_mmg: yes matratzac: matratzac: ok well matratzac: im about to go to bed matratzac: unless you can think of something Now Can I Ask U Wt Does All Those Mean? What Is He Asking For When He Has Been Paid Already For His Work? I'm Really Not Getting U At All How Can Support These Kinda Things? QUOTE(ASFx @ Jun 16 2006, 01:26 AM) [snapback]2313436[/snapback] Don't worry. As long as you stick with updating your members about your program, continue to pay everyone, and don't close, everything will be perfectly fine I second that QUOTE(hellyeah @ Jun 16 2006, 10:28 AM) [snapback]2313447[/snapback] Sorry To Say But I'm Not Getting U Too!!! N Then In The Conversation At Yahoo Cant U See The Simle Line He Said? - So Wt Does That Mean? N Then Again Now Can I Ask U Wt Does All Those Mean? What Is He Asking For When He Has Been Paid Already For His Work? I'm Really Not Getting U At All How Can Support These Kinda Things? I think u and mel need to relax a little dont let hyips and autosurfs ruin your health dont let money ruin your friendships and family. QUOTE(hellyeah @ Jun 16 2006, 01:28 AM) [snapback]2313447[/snapback] Sorry To Say But I'm Not Getting U Too!!! N Then In The Conversation At Yahoo Cant U See The Simle Line He Said? - So Wt Does That Mean? N Then Again Now Can I Ask U Wt Does All Those Mean? What Is He Asking For When He Has Been Paid Already For His Work? I'm Really Not Getting U At All How Can Support These Kinda Things? You are continuing to discuss things that don't even matter anymore. This thread is just going to turn to trash if everyone keeps arguing about matratzac. It's in lunarsurfing's best interest to keep people updated about your program in this thread, and to not continue to argue over things that your members do not even care about. The only thing the members are interested in is the status of the program. QUOTE(ASFx @ Jun 16 2006, 12:31 AM) [snapback]2313461[/snapback] You are continuing to discuss things that don't even matter anymore. This thread is just going to turn to trash if everyone keeps arguing about matratzac. It's in lunarsurfing's best interest to keep people updated about your program in this thread, and to not continue to argue over things that your members do not even care about. The only thing the members are interested in is the status of the program. Well U R True In Some Part But That Fact As Admins n Mods U Guys Cld Take Care The Issue Lot Earlier As It Was Going On For Quite Long N Reported Lot Earlier n BTW There Isnt Any Issue With Payouts Because If We Even Decide To Close Lunar Everybody Will Get Paid So There Is Nothing Wrong With Payouts At All!!! But Fact None Of Try To Stop When Zac Was Intentionally Trying To Damage The Program Without Any Logical Reason And Spreding Out Lies What Is Totally Against Th Rule Of MMG!! n That Wasnt Expected At All n Was Making Me Upset!!
We all support Lunar(mel and hellyea) and we really don't give a f... what this Zac jerk says.
I agree with the mods and ASFx. As long as this program keeps paying, members won't find anything to complain about. Everything will be fine.
However in this situation I can see that it's not easy for Melle and Hellyeah. Melle, please (as you're probably doing now) get enough rest and refreshment. You need to think clearly to properly decide what you have to do. Have a nice day everyone...
Just want you to know that I wont come here the next few days.
I dont know when I will be back . I am totally shocked about all. And at most am I shocked about MMG that what has been stated here and that NOBODY did something as Zac started this mess, is more than worse. Zac got banned already one time. I have warning level 0. I am here since almost 1 year and never did sth wrong to anyone. So why are you attacking us instead of Zac. Its totally clear what happened, even if you are blind!!! I tried to run a honest and good program here but that is not poss without background!! This was my second home but I am not feeling comfortable here anylonger, sorry. Payouts will be made tomorrow, Lunar will keep running for now and I wont return here as I said. So please in case of problems submitt a ticket on the site. No PMs or forum posts. I wont be here. I dont want to get hunted here and getting no support at all from the mods concerning that. That must have been said now, even if I will get a warning for that. Mel QUOTE(pocca @ Jun 16 2006, 12:57 AM) [snapback]2313541[/snapback] I agree with the mods and ASFx. As long as this program keeps paying, members won't find anything to complain about. Everything will be fine. However in this situation I can see that it's not easy for Melle and Hellyeah. Melle, please (as you're probably doing now) get enough rest and refreshment. You need to think clearly to properly decide what you have to do. Have a nice day everyone... There Wasnt Really Any Issue With Payouts At All ...But When Eralier Stuff Of A Program Starts To Scare New Members By Spreding Lies In Threads n Threats Admin That He'll Continue To Do That Again n Again Then It Definately Hurts The Program. QUOTE(melle51203 @ Jun 16 2006, 02:04 AM) [snapback]2313561[/snapback] Just want you to know that I wont come here the next few days. I dont know when I will be back . I am totally shocked about all. And at most am I shocked about MMG that what has been stated here and that NOBODY did something as Zac started this mess, is more than worse. Zac got banned already one time. I have warning level 0. I am here since almost 1 year and never did sth wrong to anyone. So why are you attacking us instead of Zac. Its totally clear what happened, even if you are blind!!! I tried to run a honest and good program here but that is not poss without background!! This was my second home but I am not feeling comfortable here anylonger, sorry. Payouts will be made tomorrow, Lunar will keep running for now and I wont return here as I said. So please in case of problems submitt a ticket on the site. No PMs or forum posts. I wont be here. I dont want to get hunted here by getting no support at all from the mods. That must have been said now, even if I will get a warning for that. Mel We do not give warnings just because you are choosing not to update your members here any longer. That is your choice. Also, I am not attacking anybody. Honestly I do not care about whatever is happening with you and matratzac. All i know is that by continuing to discuss him in this thread, you are only making things worse. I highly suggest that you do not let your personal problems with your ex partner/employee get in the way of running your program properly. That is not the most professional way to handle your situation, and it is definitely not the best way to please your members. QUOTE(hellyeah @ Jun 16 2006, 11:07 AM) [snapback]2313570[/snapback] There Wasnt Really Any Issue With Payouts At All ...But When Eralier Stuff Of A Program Starts To Scare New Members By Spreding Lies In Threads n Threats Admin That He'll Continue To Do That Again n Again Then It Definately Hurts The Program. I understand Hyeah. I´m in 9 AS right now and I have seen a lot ...I always support the programs I´m in when they are working like they are supposed to. I ask for Zac to be removed as my upline ... and I will not sign up under him in any program again. This is nothing personal ... just a business decision.
Hi,
I have looked everywhere on the site and cannot find anything that will enable me to make a withdraw as it is Friday or is it automatically done for you.
what have happend here? it seems having some problems here,who can tell me what happend now?
QUOTE(hellyeah @ Jun 16 2006, 05:07 AM) [snapback]2313570[/snapback] There Wasnt Really Any Issue With Payouts At All ...But When Eralier Stuff Of A Program Starts To Scare New Members By Spreding Lies In Threads n Threats Admin That He'll Continue To Do That Again n Again Then It Definately Hurts The Program. I am not a member here but i did read the last pages and personally believe that Jason is rational in his judgement. Jason did assure you that matratzac won't be posting in this thread,so spreading rumors or speculations should not be an issue for the future here,heck most members here don't bother even going one page back and the best answer for any sort of rumors or lies is simply to deliver promptly what was promised as the majority here joined for a reason and this is not for charity n or watching any sort of soap operas but the opportunity to get paid,so stick to your own terms and that dispute will be forgotten in no time. QUOTE(selen warriy @ Jun 16 2006, 07:32 PM) [snapback]2313647[/snapback] what have happend here? it seems having some problems here,who can tell me what happend now? just read a few threads back pls withdrawals will be paid tomorrow QUOTE(fraG @ Jun 16 2006, 03:49 PM) [snapback]2313513[/snapback] We all support Lunar(mel and hellyea) and we really don't give a f... what this Zac jerk says. I second that, its clear that Zac intention only to bring lunar down because of his selfishness not fulfilled Just ignored him, We all will keep supporting you mel QUOTE(Pipster @ Jun 16 2006, 10:34 AM) [snapback]2313660[/snapback] I am not a member here but i did read the last pages and personally believe that Jason is rational in his judgement. Jason did assure you that matratzac won't be posting in this thread,so spreading rumors or speculations should not be an issue for the future here,heck most members here don't bother even going one page back and the best answer for any sort of rumors or lies is simply to deliver promptly what was promised as the majority here joined for a reason and this is not for charity n or watching any sort of soap operas but the opportunity to get paid,so stick to your own terms and that dispute will be forgotten in no time. What dispute? Hey it’s PAYDAY today.
yeah, we all will support admin for ever!
QUOTE(Pipster @ Jun 16 2006, 01:34 AM) [snapback]2313660[/snapback] I am not a member here but i did read the last pages and personally believe that Jason is rational in his judgement. Jason did assure you that matratzac won't be posting in this thread,so spreading rumors or speculations should not be an issue for the future here,heck most members here don't bother even going one page back and the best answer for any sort of rumors or lies is simply to deliver promptly what was promised as the majority here joined for a reason and this is not for charity n or watching any sort of soap operas but the opportunity to get paid,so stick to your own terms and that dispute will be forgotten in no time. Well Yeah Jason Assured But Quite Later ...n If U Read Back Few Pages Then U'll See That It Was Going For Quite Long n How All Those Soap Opera Started. QUOTE(franka @ Jun 16 2006, 07:42 PM) [snapback]2313689[/snapback] What dispute? Hey it’s PAYDAY today. yeah, i agree cant wait till tomorrow
Come on, Melle. You're the boss here.
And you have a tremendous amount of genuine support. Don't let anyone intimidate you. Run your program the way you see fit. Let's get back to business and leave the drama behind us. QUOTE(Dust~ @ Jun 16 2006, 02:33 PM) [snapback]2313203[/snapback] Hey guys, I don't think LS is going to close. From Mel's last post it looks to me as it two people are asking for money in order to stop posting bad things. To me, that seems like extorsion and that is so wrong. I had a very good conversation with Matt this evening and gave him some suggestions on how to handle this situation in a way that everyone can win. He seemed very open to my advice and indicated to me he would follow through on his part. I haven't talked to Zac since the reposting of volume 3 and his conversation with Mel, but I will. Now, I like Mel, Matt and Zac very much. However, I always call it like I see it. The three of them need to work their issues out in private (not in a public forum). The program itself seems to be strong. Let's not let business 'partner/employee' issues hurt the program. It is too hard to really get the entire picture of what has happened when you're reading posts form the involved parties. Zac (I love you too, buddy), but the private conversations look like you and Matt are just trying to get some money. From our previous dealings, I don't think that is the case, but read it for yourself. I know you'd come to the same conclusion. :-) I agree, this is fair comment
Just forget about all this and think about the more important things, It's payout day today!
Hi all Lunarmembers!!
I have just surfed and reqest cashout!!! And from what i can se i will be paid tomorrow!!!!! Now we move on from here with a Lunarthread that i filled up with happy payout-dancers!!! ![]() I really looking forward to tomorrow... And the day after that, and the day after that.... And so on... QUOTE(french @ Jun 16 2006, 03:09 AM) [snapback]2313349[/snapback] Mel my best advice is to just quit trying to convince them to stop & just ignore them ... they are gonna post whatever they feel like posting anyways ... right now they feel they have thier hooks into you & they will bleed you dry if you let them. Reguardless of whatever crap they might say ,if you act like a standup admin & put your site & your members before whatever they might say about you , LunarSurf will contine to grow & be successful. - Admin, Don't let your emotions get the better of you ! I chose not to lend credence to their alleged red flags on security by not responding to that piece of junk. If I do so, I have to give them a lesson on internet security which is one of my field of expertise and may also give ideas to potential hackers which is undesirable. All I will say is that as long as any site's http port is opened, nobody is safe. All hosts do not have pipelines big enough to ground even moderate DDos intrusions. Moreover, the source of their warning was from someone in ASA who cannot even differentiate a chicken from an egg and that is why it was such a ridiculous statement . Perhaps, ASA should spent their time wisely and investigate thoroughly its ally , alertpay pro and gang and do not make a fool of themselves in other matters which they are seriously lacking. Admin , at this juncture, what is your problem ? Let them scream to their hearts content if they wish, after all, most members are not the least bit bothered about most disinformation and can gauge without even having you to retort . You have to exhibit and practise proper management skills and do the necessary but by abandoning this forum is a grave mistake and can be construed as a sign of defeat. A few kids and you cannot handle them ? I think you have done good so far but maybe your emotions are not under control for your latest bad decision. Reflect on this matter with your grey matter and not your heart ! Best Wishes !
Just surfed and requested payment because today is FRIDAY (Happy day)
Oh happy dayOh happy day When Jesus washed Oh when He washed Oh when He washed Whased my sins away Oh happy day Oh happy day Oh happy day ![]() Come on guys dance with me ![]() I'm one crazy Lunartic ![]()
Yes Mel lets go back to business you know then
all members are with you
I would have one suggesstion, which might be good for everyone...
I suggest this thread is closed and deleted, and we just open new, fresh one, start from here on. Payments and good runing of program will talk for itself and new memebers will not see or be able to read the past few pages. So program doesn`t get hurt, Jason assured that Zac will not write in this thread, and payments will cheer this thread up enormous. Just my humble opinion.. |