If you need to know, then you'll have to go back and read for yourself.
From here on out this thread will discuss the topic of the LunarSurf program, that's it.

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And GO Lunarsurfing too!



DQ

surfed for the Day but the cashout button is not yet enabled

is fryday...???



anyone have problem cannot request..????

" soory, not enable this moment
you will be able to request it only even fryday "

yeah, same here too

mayb hav 2 wait 4 admin 2 get up & enable it

i did my surfing. but cashout is still disabled

I am sorry to tell you but cause of an extortion, we might be forced to close Lunar

here is what I had today>

a converstion between me and our ex Mod Zac *the man with Volume 3*

matratzac: you give me what you think I deserve
matratzac: I edit the posts
matratzac: I talk about how I had a long convo with u


matratzac: thats what i say
matratzac: and all trust in you is restored and everything is fixed
mel73_mmg: but how much?
matratzac: how much what, im not saying what you think im thinking bc i know you could post it on mmg and potentially get me in trouble

mel73_mmg: and I would give you all will be forgotten?
matratzac: I forgive easily

matratzac: what I do matters more than what matt does
matratzac: people already think hes crazy
matratzac: and they dont believe any of his posts anyway
matratzac: so it matters more what I MYSELF say if i edit my posts than what he says
mel73_mmg: yes I know that
mel73_mmg: let me think
matratzac: I will edit my 1st post right now
matratzac: so you can see that I'm serious

mel73_mmg: so but then all will be good?
matratzac: yes
matratzac: i proomise
mel73_mmg: you will post that it wasnt seriuos?
matratzac: yes

matratzac: I edited volume 3
matratzac: but I have in on word document
matratzac: I can very easily repost it

mel73_mmg: why repost?
mel73_mmg: I thought you wont do
matratzac: I wont
matratzac: if you give me what you feel i deserve
mel73_mmg: and what- friendship or material?
mel73_mmg:
matratzac: U already brought up friendship


matratzac: give me what you feel i deserve
matratzac: and everything will be ok

mel73_mmg: what will you do if I wont give you somthing?
matratzac: Most of all I will be dissapointed in you
mel73_mmg: yes and you will repost it????

matratzac: yes i can easily repost it
mel73_mmg: and you would do that?
matratzac: bc i would feel betrayed
mel73_mmg: but if I would give you sth- you will shut up?
mel73_mmg: yes or no?
mel73_mmg: need to know for sure
matratzac: yes

mel73_mmg: Zac, why dont you wanna clear this matter up?
mel73_mmg: or you want to make it in friendship?
matratzac: volume 3 is back up and posted in the thread
mel73_mmg: WHY?
mel73_mmg: why did you do that?
mel73_mmg: tell me how much you deserve


mel73_mmg: did you edit your post again?
matratzac:
matratzac: yup
mel73_mmg: to what?
mel73_mmg: good?
mel73_mmg: or bad?
matratzac: what it was before
matratzac: i changed it back
mel73_mmg: oh why?
matratzac: bc u arent doing anything
mel73_mmg: tell me what
mel73_mmg: Zac please
matratzac: I want you to come up with it on your own
matratzac: I'm not going to tell you anything
mel73_mmg: then how can I know
mel73_mmg: ?
matratzac: u know
mel73_mmg: I dont know what you need I thought friendship again
matratzac: I dont need friendship, if anything you need MY friendship bc your site is gonna fail unless you come up with something
mel73_mmg: Lunar will fail?
matratzac: If I keep my posts up on mmg
mel73_mmg: how can you be so sure?
matratzac: fine
matratzac: just wait then
matratzac: ull see for urself
mel73_mmg: so you think Lunar will fail?
matratzac: do you really need to ask me that
mel73_mmg: yes
matratzac:
matratzac: ok well
matratzac: im about to go to bed
matratzac: unless you can think of something


that|s what I got from Matt in the meantime>


Mark James: he edited the post
mel73_mmg: he doenst want to tell me what he deserves
mel73_mmg:
mel73_mmg: and he changed it back
Mark James: what do u think he deserves?
Mark James: he wants you to decide
mel73_mmg: hmm
mel73_mmg: I need a bit guide
Mark James: i am not sure, i am not him
mel73_mmg: me too
mel73_mmg: any suggestion?
mel73_mmg: do you have or no?
mel73_mmg:
Mark James: nope
Mark James: not really
Mark James: any ideas on what he needs
mel73_mmg: hmm
Mark James: what do u think he needs
mel73_mmg: dont know- I thought friendship?
Mark James: well he is in college
Mark James: it's expensive
Mark James: i dk
mel73_mmg: but how much????
Mark James: enough to split between the two of us?
mel73_mmg: how much?
Mark James: your choice
Mark James: whats fair
Mark James: give us a nice surprise?

Mark James: melanie - just be careful
mel73_mmg: with?
Mark James: all
mel73_mmg: what do you mean?
Mark James: like what you are saying
Mark James: with zac
Mark James: im not really sure
mel73_mmg: what?
mel73_mmg: what do I say?
Mark James: i i dont know, he is acting funny
Mark James: hmm LS thread is a bit slow




Mel

what happend...


it first time..for me

ok, I suddenly want to puke. Is it true that this site closing?

ＯＭＧ！！！！！！！close Lunar？？？？？？

What's all this?I don't get what you mean.?
conclusion?

and what? it is not clear for me...

wat's going on here Melle

Well I have to admitt, this is the most big and sad drama I saw in this business... really sad


Hey guys.. relax... I am sure Melle will do payments just normal... maybe she will decide in future to close Lunar, which we can not blame her, after recent events!

please read

its easy to find whats going on

I tried to make it good but now Zac is blackmailing me as you can see.

so..., we are just lost....!!!!!! that's all..

something alike, what happened to the fly in your avatar

don't understand. where is his post?

Hey guys,

I don't think LS is going to close. From Mel's last post it looks to me as it two people are asking for money in order to stop posting bad things. To me, that seems like extorsion and that is so wrong.

I had a very good conversation with Matt this evening and gave him some suggestions on how to handle this situation in a way that everyone can win. He seemed very open to my advice and indicated to me he would follow through on his part.

I haven't talked to Zac since the reposting of volume 3 and his conversation with Mel, but I will.

Now, I like Mel, Matt and Zac very much. However, I always call it like I see it. The three of them need to work their issues out in private (not in a public forum).

The program itself seems to be strong. Let's not let business 'partner/employee' issues hurt the program.

It is too hard to really get the entire picture of what has happened when you're reading posts form the involved parties.

Zac (I love you too, buddy), but the private conversations look like you and Matt are just trying to get some money. From our previous dealings, I don't think that is the case, but read it for yourself. I know you'd come to the same conclusion. :-)

The one that highlighted with red color

We are lost also

I wont pay for such blackmailing/ its a shame!

And even if we would go further

Zac would all try to bring Lunar down and start post crap again!!

what is our choice

While members money is our responsiblity we'll do the best we feel for our pro

i understand Zac must have posted something bad about Lunars. but i've never read it.... there are so many pages
trust me 90% members have never heard of it.

the problem is that he will go on with blackmailing and posting bad things here in future

You just requested $36 Cashout
Paid to: E-Gold - None

Is this normal?
Shouldnt it show my eg no. ?

I thought 90% or more ppl are just care if they got their payment.



How do you get there? it is still disabled for me.

why doesnt the MMG mods banned this person that extort u

it's so unethical

IT WAS MATRATZAC OUR OLD MOD

I clicked on the cashout button and it worked.Sent an PM to melle.

yeah, so the MMG mod's shouldnt allow any members to extort/blackmail another member

if u allow this kind of behaviour then he's no worst than a scammer

melle！I want to know you how to deal with it, will you refund or close it directly?

Due to this problems that has been caused, payouts will be made tomorrow

So do we request cashout today or tomorrow? I've just upgraded few days ago. !!!

hm... I just love changing my siggy

that's great. don't close please. we need trusted sites and trusted admins.

Melle, if i were u, i would report this to ALL the MMG mod's & admins & banned this nasty person

obviously, im sorry u've pick the wrong people 2 work with in the begining

Oki... cash out button is open, so you can request cash out today... friday as it always is..

you can request today, payout will be tomorrow

please understand

I was on the whole night again due to this mess and its 9.50 am here in germany

hmmm that's weird... Why you look at that creep.. just go further and let him post or do anything need. Just ignore and ban him, ignore him and work with program. That's all. Relax and pay today's cashouts

No Problem. We can wait.
But I think you will need to fix my cashout request manually and add the eg. no.

Yup he is nothing else but scammer. I know mel for from her earlier programs and she is really honest women and now what i can see is that scammer zac is blackmailling her to bring her site down. He is worst then scammer MMG admins should banned this kinda persons from mmg

so right

I didnt really wanted to post

but I had to cause nobody wanted to do something.....

and I think its CLEAR what is going on here

i requested a ccashout and its shows in my histry

94 2006-06-16 $108.00 Cash out request to xxxxx E-Gold PENDING

Agree with U！！！Ｄon\'t close plz！

thats normal nothing wrong with that

That looks fine right? what is the problem? The payment to egold will be done tommorow

Melle, nobody is extorting you. When reading that cconversation, its very obvious that matratzac was simply trying to ask you to pay him what you thought he deserved for the work he did. Do not try to turn it into an extortion attempt. Closing your program then trying to blame it on matratzac would be a poor excuse. Your program is running fine without him unless people keep making a big deal out of it. You are running this program, so you decide how much to pay him for his work.

well I have another opinion sorry

its totally clear what he is trying.

Also he got paid and he is not our mod anymore

I cant understand your reaction sorry.

I said we might be forced thats it

and I dont wanna blame someone esle here

I HAVE BEEN BLAMED

How can that mod disrespect admins decision and bring all those business matters in pubic? It's admin's duty, she'll do what she feels better for the program. And what she did? She just hired another mod that's all! Now how can a mod disrespect that decision and bring all the bussiness matters in public when he wasnt even replaced at all? It was tottaly intentional at my opinion. And now what i can see is he is trying to blackmail admin again?! How come mmg admins not banning this kinda person who is trying extort/blackmail an honest admin and a good program?