chapter 2

I was happy- Lunar has been launched- we had success- only one problem- Matt was the owner of Lunarsurfing.com cause he bought it with his name.. hmm so what to do? yes- simply buy a new one .net. Dustin were on my site on 100%- he helped me so much and gave me the new domain Lunarsurfing.net.
He managed all concerning that- the only thing was that w needed to wait 24 hours for the move to the new domain. I hoped that Matt would be silent... but he wasn't. He started to extort me, I should talk to him and be his partner- if not he would bring Lunar down- I didn't answer. Then he started to talk to John, the same- he told him he will bring the site down and that he wants 5% of lifetime earnings lol....then he did- Lunarsurfing was down as you can surely remember!! John tried all to change his mind...2 (!!!) hours he talked to him and all I can remember:
Matt- do you really want to be in a team where nobody wants you? Yes I want-

Also Matt sent msg to Zac, cause I blocked him on yahoo- that's why I can't understand you are saying that he is a genius...He told John also he could take the site up and down as he likes it.
At least John managed to get Matt to bring Lunar up again.
Next day we had to move to .net- all was clear- Matt couldn't do anything more to harm me. Thanks god, thanks John.

All was fine- I was happy with Hellyeah, Lunar was running great- yeah what more could I possibly want?

POST HAS BEEN EDITED- I DONT WANT THIS BS ANYMORE

I'm in the same boat you are falgor. Would love to put some $ in but I have two sites where cashouts are pending and both of them are stalling big time. So I guess in the mean time I will just have to pop in now and then and read the creation of Lunar Surf stories. And it began, Once upon a time, in a far off land....

yeah so right- it began in a far off land

would be glad to have you both in

OH MY, Oh My, now there it came some story..


Well I am sorry to read all this and that it had to happen this way..

But as far as I am concerned, for me there is one and only one really important thing in AS, and that is honoust admin. And nowhere in this "soap opera", was said that Melle isn`t honoust... on contrary, even lady from ASA said she has good reputation... so I would say our money is on safe and at end we are all looking for that..

GoodNight sweet Netty ..and yes sweet Melle too.

I am sorry Melle that you feel the need to defend yourself, you really don’t.
This entire matter is between you and Zac, nothing to do with any of the members and you should not have to explain your actions.

yeah Netty- you are right- no need to worry here.

Sorry for all the mess, but I hope you can all understand why I must defend me- it's all for Lunar

Let's go on further...

and I will never write a blog again- you kow why LOL



Night Jaco



thanks Franka, but I felt that it was time for "the truth"-

and I am really glad I did- now you know all.

I have been very upset yesterday....I felt like I were sick.... didn't sleep, went to bed at 8 am.
So I decided to let you all know-

not only the view of Zac- MY VIEW and THE TRUTH about his genius-

cause I am not that bad as many peeple thought yesterday, all decision have good reasons why.

Nighty Jacoo... take your beauty rest now




well I agree with franka... pitty this came out on white, but I also understand how you felt with all.

It is hard for Zac and for you, lunar has a bright future, and will for sure grow strong, especially after tomorrow payments, when here will be full of shiney people and dancing ones

Just read everything and saw the part where Matt and Mark were the same person and he was using multiple id's on moneymakergroup. Does this happen to have any relation to ourhonesthyip.com? They got their program moved to the closed/scam section because admin was accused of posting under multiple ID's. (Jdizzle and ourhonesthyip). Ourhonesthyip admin name is Matt and Jdizzle's real name is Mark. Trying to figure out if this same person is running ourhonesthyip or if its just a conincidence. As far as I knew the Matt who runs ourhonesthyip is indeed Matt and jdizzle is his friend Mark but perhaps I have been fooled yet again despite their reassurances to me that they are not one and the same person.

---Mike

Ok, I've not beening following this thread much since it moves too fast, but I do have a question after reading the latest saga:

Can we still use Lunarsurfing.com? I've been using this one since the beginning. I've just logged onto Lunarsurfing.net and the stats are exactly the same.

Melle, I can really understand that you did defend yourselve and if I were in your shoes I would get sick too
Hope after all this writing you can concentrate on the more positive things that happen here

Thineke

Nighty nighty lunartics

time for me to hit the bed... have nice evening further


Oh Melle, here is one for ya, I know you like this ones lol

oops, I really don't know- but one I know for sure- he is everywhere Thanks for the info though.



I saw just that I made a mistake...

We have now Lunarsurfing.net
Lunarsurfing.com is redirected.



Yes- now I will and can that for sure Thanks for understanding

Oh my Melle!!

This have not been easy for U, and as we all know... When somethings bloss up in this world and if anyone CAN take anything the wrong way, There are always gonna be ppl that wants to spin to it and make it worse or see a chanse to be all crazy and mean.. So i can understand that youre PMbox have been full off bulls now... But it is not tru... Dont listen to that..

I hope that you can see the whole backup that u have in youre members here!!!

That u have many ppl that suport u and wants the best for youre baby lunarsurf...

You are a fighter and a Tiger!! You are a mother!! To your kids and to Lunar!!

The things that dont kill u makes you stronger!!

Thanks for clearing that up. I had my balls up to my throat for a moment there.

Maria,

you are a great woman and supporter here!

And to all supporters here- many many thanks- you don't what that means to me

I am happy to have YOU ALL as our member

Melle this is for you!!!

thank you

that's was my position yesterday

This is just me going out on a limb and hazarding a guess, but i dont think he will reinvest here

My Story

The last and final Volume - 3

Matt wanted me to make this picture public:
This is his egold account history
http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=egold5zj.jpg
http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=egoldi9qx.jpg

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When you come to visit mmg no matter what the program is you can never be sure that the admin is telling the truth. There have been so many scams lately that it scares me. Just because someone seems open to you does not mean they are telling you the whole story. It doesn't matter whether or not you are a parent, young, old, dishonesty can hide behind a veil on the internet simply because it is so easy to fool another.

Whether or not Matt "extorted" you for 5% is none of my business, but you seem to have no problem keeping that for yourself:

Melanie Schneider (6/3/2006 5:28:38 PM): yes sure
Matt (6/3/2006 5:28:40 PM): and we both surf for 2000
Matt (6/3/2006 5:28:45 PM): i just wanted to make sure
Melanie Schneider (6/3/2006 5:28:47 PM): but think of my money plz
Melanie Schneider (6/3/2006 5:28:50 PM): I need it
Melanie Schneider (6/3/2006 5:28:51 PM):
Matt (6/3/2006 5:28:56 PM): yeah i understand
Matt (6/3/2006 5:29:00 PM): how much

Next day:

graphicdesigns@operamail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
ok hows this
graphicdesigns@operamail.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
Melanie Schneider (6/4/2006 11:24:24 AM): we will do it as you said ok?
Matt (6/4/2006 11:24:30 AM): what was that?
Melanie Schneider (6/4/2006 11:24:46 AM): till 8000 400 each
Matt (6/4/2006 11:24:52 AM): oh okay
Matt (6/4/2006 11:24:53 AM): good
Matt (6/4/2006 11:24:55 AM): so tomorrow>?
Matt (6/4/2006 11:25:00 AM): or today
Matt (6/4/2006 11:25:03 AM): when we get 8000 total

Right after Melle fired Matt, she told me to block him on yahoo. I told her I did, but I didn't. I kept talking to Matt and soon realized this could benefit the program. You see, I have a very open mind and like to listen to people. I let him talk. He told me everything that had happened, and I relayed it to Melle. Remember when the lunarsurfing.com domain was down for around 1 hr? Well, I had warned Melle previously that it was going to happen simply because Matt told me he was going to change the DNS off registerfly. It was me who made sure Melle purchased the .net domain asap. I was speaking to Dust on msn at the exact moment when this was happening, and that was the best route for us to take. Matt had no idea. I felt this needed to be done if the site was going to survive, because Matt held its fate in his hands. He owned the domain, server, and the hosting. It was all his.

So they got the .net domain. He was stuck. And that was the end of that, and he was helpless. Now Melle had full control.

I didn't talk to Matt so much after that, except every once in a while on yahoo he would ask me for an update.

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Melle can bring up the $50 all she wants, thinking I'll try to deny it. I already posted the picture. I don't care. She paid me $50 the 2nd or 3rd day after launch for helping to promote it; she said she would give me more later once deposits increased. SO I brought it up again a week later and would not get an answer. I kept asking Dust whether or not she had said anything about compensating us and he hadnt even heard anything from Melle up to that point. I felt like I was being dragged along and I wanted an answer. Then it struck me that I had just gotten in trouble for not "posting enough" in the thread and not being "motivated" enough, and, oddly enough, I was not getting any money for my help. I got emails from people asking me about the program, and I answered them. I got a few pms. I answered them. However, unless there was a question I usually didnt find a reason to make a post. Was she basing her money on whether or not I was keeping the thread active? Thats what it felt like to me.

Now this is where it gets good.
I already posted the pm from hellyeah in volume 2. They wouldn't allow me to post in other threads. Do a search. You wont find a single post from except for in the LunarSurf thread and perhaps the general for a few days; which is very different from the norm as far as I go. I post alot. Thats a given.

It was during this time I started to do a little digging myself. Melle had told me herself that she ran 3 hyips in the past. A fellow mmg veteran (thank you, you know who you are) told me about how she was suspected of faking stats and found to be guilty. Then it hit me. About 2 days ago all of a sudden the deposits for lunarsurf went up and spiked. The first day of launch there werent NEARLY that many deposits. The first day after payouts there werent that many either. I suspected something was going on.

Having a reason to suspect fake stats when history proved it might actually be true: RED FLAG 3

Throughout this whole time I had been trying to get a longtime mmg member to join, but they refused. They had done some DD on the program themselves, and did not like what they found. Yet I still fought for Melle up until that point. The evidence was starting to point a different direction.

It was then that the post in general section was made stating they were looking for a new Moderator. The requirements were:

1- you should like us and love Lunar tongue4.gif

2- reliability

3- motivation

4- kindness to our members

5- min of 500 posts here on MMG

6- and a good portion of happiness biggrin.gif

according to them I didn't fit the bill for numbers 1, 2 and 3, but yet at that point in time I had close to 250 posts in the lunarsurf thread alone, and they were mostly quality posts. I refused to post for the sake of posting, which Melle apparently wanted me to do.
So you can image why I was confused when they hired someone who wasn't even a member of the program, hadnt made a single post in the thread, and directly knew Hellyeah. Something didn't smell right.

I had had enough. I didn't take it up through pm. I didn't take it up through yahoo. Melle was away anyway, which was atleast 8 hrs a day, so I had come to expect it. She only messaged me when she needed something posted if the thread was dead. Interesting.

So I made my discontent public. This is what I recieved in my yahoo immediately.

mel73_mmg: ARE YOU CRAZY?????
matratzac: are YOU?
mel73_mmg: NO I AM ADMIN!!!!
mel73_mmg: and you forget that
matratzac: just because ur an admin doesnt mean u cant make bad decisions
mel73_mmg: well now youve gone toooooo FAR
matratzac: have I?
mel73_mmg: yes you are not the admin
matratzac: that doesnt mean anything
matratzac: i stated my opinion
matratzac: he didnt make a single post in the thread
matratzac: before u hired him
mel73_mmg: you just want to make confusion
mel73_mmg: so now I am tired
mel73_mmg: really!!!!
matratzac: why would u hire someone who showed no prior interest
matratzac: u got mad at me
matratzac: bc i didnt "love" lunarsurf enough
mel73_mmg: thats not YOUR PROBLEM
matratzac: but yet heres someone who doesnt show his face until today and is now a member of our team
matratzac: If i didnt love lunarsurf I wouldnt care
matratzac: but I do
matratzac: you might want to think about that
mel73_mmg: THIS IS MY SURF- AND I DONT WANT YOU TO MAKE LUNAR DOWN!!!""
matratzac: apparently it was matts surf
matratzac: actually
matratzac: he did everything
mel73_mmg: you can go Zac
matratzac: I quit
matratzac: you need to screw your head on straight
mel73_mmg: bye
mel73_mmg: no I QUITE YOU
matratzac: you cant quite me
matratzac: the term is "firing" me
matratzac: but i already quit
matratzac: so theres no point
mel73_mmg: fire

Thats the last time I talked to her. But before I go I have some questions, Melle.

1) Why did you state you gave Matt $240 to buy the domain, etc. Why didn't you just do it yourself? You had the money. So that leaves me to believe you needed him to set it up for you so you could take over. You were just looking for a reason to get rid of him. Whether or not he was 15 years old doesnt matter. Thats just unethical.

2) How are your "investments" coming along? You told me where you put the money, and I'm not going to go to those lengths and post it here. I will, however, state that asking a mod (me) for advice of where to throw the money isn't exactly an intelligent thing to do.

3) If you were planning on launching an autosurf anyway, why answer to Matts post asking for interested parties? Is it because you needed someone ready and willing to go the extra length and do the things you did not know how to do? And why in the world would you start a program with someone in another country you didn't know, had no prior relationship with, and obviously never spoke with him on the phone. If you did you might have given him away.

4) You admitted in your post that you didn't want me posting in other threads. Why?

5) Does the fact that you "suspected" me of getting money from EnglightenedMind (which is absolutely a stupid idea) have anything to do with your unhappiness with me? Just because I made a few posts in the thread does not mean I am involved. You even told me to ask her if she would pay me more if I became a mod for her. How proposterous is that!? Oddly enough, Matt threw the $400 you gave him in the profitring

6) Just because I refuse to post every 10 seconds does not mean I don't deserve money for my work. The phoenixsurf mods ~GASP~ got $250 a week to do their job. And we saw how well they did it (except for Dust, I love ya buddy). I thought I was doing a good job, and your reasons for disagreeing with me didn't fly with me. If I had posted more would you have paid me more? I think so.

Too many unanswered questions: RED FLAG 4

less than 12 hours to request my second payout.... ,

btw, I see a lot of long post in this thread today... but please accept my sorry to Melanie and Zac,

I prefer to focus in to my strategy in this program, and too excited waiting for change of day

edited :
and also,,, England won....and qualified to the next round

Thanks for sharing

er my question is ... just from what ive seen here.... it looks like melle is ignoring the other points,
and zac cant be lying because this post is from june 3.... not really my battle, but just observing from
an impartial standpoint...

Melanie Schneider (6/3/2006 5:28:38 PM): yes sure
Matt (6/3/2006 5:28:40 PM): and we both surf for 2000
Matt (6/3/2006 5:28:45 PM): i just wanted to make sure
Melanie Schneider (6/3/2006 5:28:47 PM): but think of my money plz
Melanie Schneider (6/3/2006 5:28:50 PM): I need it
Melanie Schneider (6/3/2006 5:28:51 PM):
Matt (6/3/2006 5:28:56 PM): yeah i understand
Matt (6/3/2006 5:29:00 PM): how much

But its just 7 hours left!!

And one more thing!!

SWEDEN won today alsoooo!!!

edited- I am tired of it

Oops, my bad. Just double checked my info. Jdizzle's real name is David not Mark. No connection here afterall.

---Mike

Let me see here, ya got two of our most respected longtime MMG folks in one corner and . . .who??

My, this is so hard, what to do, what to do . . . .

I can't wait to get paid and RE-DEPOSIT!!!!



DQ

ok, that was my fault- I see it is june there...

but this part is out of the context-

we were talking about surfing in GS surf and the money I could take for the server and such, what I paid for.
Also Matt didn't have money at all, Luke can prove that.
So I gave him to order it- believe it or not-

sorry it was my fault- cause in germany we have date formats like that:

16.06.06

Have to say goodnight all!!

When i wake up in the morning im gonna reqest payout!!!

Yuhuuuu!!

-


Can we have some sanity back in this thread ?



Is that wonder kid so indispensable that his departure will ruin this program ?



I appeal to all concern to show some restraint .



Please have the courtesy to take your internal battle elsewhere as this is not a battlefield but a surfing site.



Can we please get back to business !


Regards
-

thank you for that-

that's all what I want-

but some things needed to be cleared up

I am sorry for this whole mess.

How is this ?? Still paying as regular?? I

yeahhh tomorrow is payday

COol... I would love to join it! But lost $550 on casino yesterday!!! Or anyone wanna sign me up?

Your going to tell someones mommy on them? This is toooo funny

i was just about to sign up for this and then started reading all this fight goign on .. i dont really know what is going on now... so i will just stay out of this..

i request ppl to pls post when u get paid. but i now think that this fight will have some bad impact and cant really trust anyone now... sh--it i wanted to invest in this !!!

I will ignore from now on all BS that will be talked here- I swear- this is the Lunar- thread and let's go back to where we have been before.

Tomorrow is payday and all will be back to normal.

I need immediate answers. I have been logging in, upgraded and surfing in lunarsurfing.com all along. Now I read that that is not the correct site? What happens to my money?

all is ok- the domain is redirected

but for the fuutre use www.lunarsurfing.net

Your money is safe

Yeah! 0.2 cents is a lot of bonus!
Didn't get cash bonus again yesterday, but I got bonus credits again

I was reading on what is happening here
and want to post just one important thing, I know Mel and I trust her. I knew her from the last 2 hyip's that she openned and I know that she will make this autosurf a long-term. Please mel ignore those "bad posts" and just focuss in this autosurf. Let your members be happy! and give them an opportunity to earn extra bucks!


Good luck

WOW this is all i can say. What are we here for. Me I am here to make money. From the beginning i have delt with the admin of this site and even been a member from the start.

I do not think that some of teh things in this thread needed to be here but that is all past now. What i am focusing on is wether or not I get paid. Which i am sure will.

Here is what i have to say. Most uf us who joined this site know Mel from here in MMG. She has not changed her name She has not used several ids to post things. We can sit here and judge people and say they are childish but to fuel things like that what does that make us.


I am not going to sit here and preach that either is right but i can say that Mell has been more then a great admin. As you can see there were issues ( that never should have made it here) that she has managed to rise above.

I have full trust and faith in her as an admin and as a person. Lets put this 'trash" behind us and get back to what we came here for to make money.

And I say those who are not here for money there are plenty of scams out there go join them. or donate your money to a good cause. Those that are here for the money lets get back to it shall we.





ALL IN????? I am.

Hi
What are you talking about? I only care about payment .

Nothing else is more important than payment.

Waiting For Friday .

I need to sleep for now- it's 4.30 am here


take care all- tomorrow will be payout time

I was gonna signup but reading the last 3 pages of posts, I don't wanna know. Good Luck y'all in here.

Melle

Have a nice sleep.

You devote yourself too much on LS.

thank you terryyang and bye bye

You know what....too little, too late. If you are the admin of this site, I just want to get my money and get out. You should have never, ever responded to any of this mess in the public forum, I don't care who is at fault. Very bad decision on your part. If you have no better sense than this, it makes me wonder about your business sense and how you may be investing my money. As soon as I'm paid, I'm out of here. You have very poor judgement.

The great thing about this is that you can go somewhere else and this program will go on just fine without you. Ok, so perhaps this thread got a bit carried away with all the drama. All that shows to me is that Melle takes this seriously and due to the fact that she is trying to be honest she is going out of her way to try and keep her good name clear of the defamation of others. With that being said it probably is good to just drop the whole thing and move on. Looking forward to all the "I got paid" posts tomorrow.

----Mike




Melle,
I see that you are just trying to make sure the truth is heard. Unfortunately it just makes things more confusing for others who are not following the thread closely. Let the payments show the truth.

---Mike

hi guys

what's going on over here????

it seems all hell break loose here

is zac officially not a mod anymore???

someone give me a short version