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Kenny
Checkout the latest blog by 1world... shows alot of professionalism to me.. what do ya'll think...

http://1worlddoublers.com/html/blog.html

the first paragraph says it all... i am thinking tho..these HYIP he is talking about is he talking about IT ? I havent seen any report by 1worold about IT. Guess they dont tell thier people about programs that they cant get referal commisions from...ya he is a TEAM PLAYER...

Oh ya and dont forget John set up his own site, he is going to charge people to read his "reviews" ...good idea John...charging people to be your referals...your such a leader John....
ASFx
He's probably just annoyed about today just like a lot of other people are. IT isn't a HYIP so i don't think he's talking about IT. About charging people to read his reviews, that's up to him if he wants to do that, but I think it would work a lot better if he provided some sort of other service to go along with it. That would make people want to pay the membership fee more.
canuck05
QUOTE(Kenny @ Mar 4 2005, 11:57 PM)
Checkout the latest blog by 1world... shows alot of professionalism to me.. what do ya'll think...


I read those eloquent words (complete with F bomb) at 1World a few hours ago and, knowing you're not exactly their biggest fan, I actually thought, "Kenny's gonna love this...." laugh.gif

By the way, this is what their "Alert" e-mail on Friday predicted for PRC, just a few hours before the doors closed:

"PhoenixRisingCycler or PRC -
PRC keeps paying daily and now that TPS is in suspension mode there do not appear to be too many alternatives for your spends, PRC is a good one to spend in. The above situation will surely add to the lifetime of PRC."

huh.gif

As for HYIPS...I noticed John is plugging Tajiano on his new reviews site.


Kenny
sounds like John *Couldnt by a clue* Stankavioch is WRONG AGAIN.... wonder when people will relize that he just want thier money and doesnt care about people. I have told 100's of people about IT4us.net... JOHN hasnt told any cause he doesnt get referal commisions, so he DOESNT CARE.

people will learn one day...

moneymaker
i agree with you Kenny, that is always the case. They promote good referral commision program. Look at a huge program like 4daysgroup, they only rated them 52 just because 4daysgroup pays only 4% referral commision and max purchase is only $300 !!
jefbru
Anytime now the DR or David will be cleaning up that mess in the blog.It wont be the first time they have had to do it.I personally enjoyed the irresponsible dropping of the F bomb but somehow dont think it has a place in the 1world corporate scheme of things.
Kenny
Well this is my start of my campaign to show people who really wants to help and who just wants referal money. look for more post like this with proof of how people really are....

broker88
QUOTE(ASFx @ Mar 5 2005, 02:13 AM)
He's probably just annoyed about today just like a lot of other people are.  IT isn't a HYIP so i don't think he's talking about IT.  About charging people to read his reviews, that's up to him if he wants to do that, but I think it would work a lot better if he provided some sort of other service to go along with it.  That would make people want to pay the membership fee more.
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Well, if he's gonna charge people to read his reviews and we invest based on his "professional opinions", then what happens when we lose every single dollar based on his professional predictions. Do we get a refund or do we go and lynch tha guy. tongue.gif tongue.gif
unclejesse
this is funny.
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QUOTE(unclejesse @ Mar 5 2005, 07:50 PM)
this is funny.
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I donŽt care about comm that much either,IŽd rather have a great program staying when I see it,I promote IT too,just because I want the program to be here for us tongue.gif
jefbru
The offensive word in question has just been changed to the less offensive "Heck"
LOL
Cor
lmao

when i read that i was thinking the same thing

people are always at their weakest when they are angry, remember that one hehe
TeamAaronShara
Well, We tried to put IT on our Daily Newsletter and had it up there for quite a while (almost a month) to they kindly asked us to take it down. So in order to make sure that we did not lose our funds in there we did as they requested. They asked in an email and over the phone to remove it and that they did not want to be associated with the Traditional HYIPS.


Aaron and Shara
Cor
this is the first i'veheard of that program, returns seem crazy!
canuck05
QUOTE(jefbru @ Mar 5 2005, 02:21 PM)
The offensive word in question has just been changed to the less offensive  "Heck"
LOL
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"Heck"? LOL...kind of the online version of getting his mouth washed out with soap, eh? tongue.gif
Global*Money
1wld... hmmz... NO comment
nuk
Had heard of this site but never looked at until today. Some of the guy's ranting is pretty funny, though not as good as my blog I just made here at mmg tongue.gif

One thing that really stood out is he expects to have his backside kissed and is a little tempermental when something doesn't go his way. He's also real self-serving, but that's what having your own website allows you to do. If people are taking his recommendations at 100% without scrutiny, they are going to lose money. Typical newbie rake at 1world.
NUK
Kenny
QUOTE(nuk @ Mar 6 2005, 12:12 AM)
Had heard of this site but never looked at until today. Some of the guy's ranting is pretty funny, though not as good as my blog I just made here at mmg tongue.gif

One thing that really stood out is he expects to have his backside kissed and is a little tempermental when something doesn't go his way. He's also real self-serving, but that's what having your own website allows you to do. If people are taking his recommendations at 100% without scrutiny, they are going to lose money. Typical newbie rake at 1world.
NUK
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LOL...i am off to read your blog... might have to add you to my scammer alert service tongue.gif
canuck05
QUOTE(Kenny @ Mar 6 2005, 01:14 AM)
LOL...i am off to read your blog... might have to add you to my scammer alert service tongue.gif
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Kenny...have you checked out "Interests" in nuk's MMG profile? LOL!
Kenny
QUOTE(canuck05 @ Mar 6 2005, 08:45 AM)
Kenny...have you checked out "Interests" in nuk's MMG profile? LOL!
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I just did... LMAO... i guess i gotta warn him... or ....a vacation?

BTW NUK your blog isnt public or something.. nothing shows up...
Kenny
Whoever has contact to this clown name John over at 1world. Please tell him to read this thread http://www.moneymakergroup.com/-t7452.html

The admin of 4daysgroup sent John an email, instead of John researching it, he took that guys "word" and posted it and is slamming Global*Money! Someone please slap this John guy and teach him how to research something before he tells that many people. Jason is even personally backing Global Money.


** Just some more evidence to show how much of an IDIOT this John guy is. Notice how he crys in his other blog cause no one is paying $5 to join his other site! He hasnt made enough money from the people who follow him so he is trying to charge them to listen to his advice.... and we all know how he gets his information...**
ASFx
This guy really needs to actually research things people tell him. He's taking everything scammers tell him as facts to post in his blog? What's next? I sent him an email to try to straighten out things.
Kenny
Just like when John personally spoke to and "vouched" for the admin from Kingpayout or Incomeplan9 ....i dont remember which one it was.... Sure I made mistakes but I admit them.....
Global*Money
This is really getting out of hand !!!!

4daysgroup'a admin Ahmad Suhail has got no prove and totally no facts on the things he said.

I have sent an email to John!!!
woohooo
1worlddoublers site a real joke. This sites truly SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you wanna read rubbish desicions, go this site and read their blog. Full of garbage could be find here -

I don't know what is this John is!!!!! he thinks to be as a greatest critic of doublers in this entire world. laugh.gif Actualy he has no brain and rate scam programs easily.

For example, DYMBG , Doubledprofits, Esuccessteam, Yiwsn and MANY more.

I never joined any program under their recommendations. Their one & only goal is to make commisions from your membership. BE CAREFUL!!!!!!!!
jefbru
1WorldDoublers J "print the story first,ask questions later" S, owes Global*Money both a public apology on the 1World website and on The MMG Forum.
woohooo
QUOTE(jefbru @ Mar 11 2005, 06:25 AM)
1WorldDoublers J "print the story first,ask questions later" S, owes Global*Money  both a public apology on the 1World website and on The MMG Forum.
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HEY HEY HEY wait a minute. What do you mean man? Everyone knows John tells us lie everything. He doesn't have any research. EDIT: Personal attack

EDIT: Personal attack otherwise everyone here will be asking for money back from your boss. EDIT: Crude language
Serenity
Hi everyone,

This is my first post on this forum, but not my first visit here. I have been enjoying reading this forum and the information available for many months. My preference on most forums, is to observe and learn rather than participate so rarely do I post anything. Unless, I have something important to contribute or I see bashing which is irrelevant to the purpose of the forum. Such as this particular thread.

Let me ask some of you a few questions, Kenny in particular, as he seems to have a personal vendetta against John from 1worlddoublers.

If you don't like 1worldoublers, why do you visit their site all the time, enough to know everything that goes on?

If you have an issue with John in particular, why not e-mail him and tell him in person rather than posting this nonsense without his knowledge?

Do you really think you are more professional than he is? Perhaps you don't say the offensive words he sometimes chooses to use, but instead you do it through slander.

Is it not the nature of the business to solicit referrals? Do you think 1worlddoublers or any other on-line business as such does this purely to be kind? How would they exist without funds and why would they take up many hours a day to do all this work if not for referrals?

And regarding the latest issue, I truly don't think most of you who have posted here have even bothered to fully read what John has written. Else you would not say what you have, instead, most of you are jumping on the bandwagon as in the western days to lynch who ever the leader suggests.

1worlddoublers has been in existence for quite some time and has gathered a very large following. There are those who participate and those who don't. There are those who gather information from John and those who choose to follow his advice. There are also those who choose to promote their own ventures using 1worlddoublers. And there are those who are jealous of its success.

Regarding John setting up his own site and charging. You are misguided and do not know enough about it and how it operates. For a mere $5.00 per month for all that he currently offers you would have to be foolish not to join. Additionally, it is not set up to operate the way 1worlddoublers does, so you are wrong about him receiving all the referrals.

You see, if you decide to post something and slander somebody, it is best to take care and know your facts before doing so.

Some of the comments here are downright false, others are funny and some are even true. But mostly, they are slanderous and not at all necessary.

I think as adults we can do much better than this.

I will not be returning to this thread, as I've said what I wanted to and have no need to debate.

Good day to all of you.
jefbru
QUOTE(Serenity @ Mar 11 2005, 12:33 PM)
Hi everyone,

This is my first post on this forum, but not my first visit here. I have been enjoying reading this forum and the information available for many months. My preference on most forums, is to observe and learn rather than participate so rarely do I post anything. Unless, I have something important to contribute or I see bashing which is irrelevant to the purpose of the forum. Such as this particular thread.

Let me ask some of you a few questions, Kenny in particular, as he seems to have a personal vendetta against John from 1worlddoublers.

If you don't like 1worldoublers, why do you visit their site all the time, enough to know everything that goes on?

If you have an issue with John in particular, why not e-mail him and tell him in person rather than posting this nonsense without his knowledge?

Do you really think you are more professional than he is? Perhaps you don't say the offensive words he sometimes chooses to use, but instead you do it through slander.

Is it not the nature of the business to solicit referrals? Do you think 1worlddoublers or any other on-line business as such does this purely to be kind? How would they exist without funds and why would they take up many hours a day to do all this work if not for referrals?

And regarding the latest issue, I truly don't think most of you who have posted here have even bothered to fully read what John has written. Else you would not say what you have, instead, most of you are jumping on the bandwagon as in the western days to lynch who ever the leader suggests.

1worlddoublers has been in existence for quite some time and has gathered a very large following. There are those who participate and those who don't. There are those who gather information from John and those who choose to follow his advice. There are also those who choose to promote their own ventures using 1worlddoublers.  And there are those who are jealous of its success.

Regarding John setting up his own site and charging. You are misguided and do not know enough about it and how it operates. For a mere $5.00 per month for all that he currently offers you would have to be foolish not to join. Additionally, it is not set up to operate the way 1worlddoublers does, so you are wrong about him receiving all the referrals.

You see, if you decide to post something and slander somebody, it is best to take care and know your facts before doing so.

Some of the comments here are downright false, others are funny and some are even true. But mostly, they are slanderous and not at all necessary.

I think as adults we can do much better than this.

I will not be returning to this thread, as I've said what I wanted to and have no need to debate.

Good day to all of you.
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Perhaps you would feel differently if it was your good name that was being dragged through the mud by someone that decided to post a slanderous statement about you without even investigating to see whether it was true.

Radmax
QUOTE(Serenity @ Mar 11 2005, 01:33 PM)
Is it not the nature of the business to solicit referrals? Do you think 1worlddoublers or any other on-line business as such does this purely to be kind? How would they exist without funds and why would they take up many hours a day to do all this work if not for referrals?

1worlddoublers has been in existence for quite some time and has gathered a very large following. There are those who participate and those who don't. There are those who gather information from John and those who choose to follow his advice. There are also those who choose to promote their own ventures using 1worlddoublers.  And there are those who are jealous of its success.
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Serenity:

Yes, you are correct, John has gathered a very large following. That does not mean that the information he posts is accurate and in the best interest of his followers. He has posted numerous false alegations, his listings of new programs is in no way consistent (nor his rating system), and the programs he lists offer very little information and analysis. It is also clear to me he does essentially no DD work on programs and their administration. Though, John has every right to post whatever he wants on his website, as someone who has created a site with such a large following, I think it is imperitive that he posts in a professional manner and does not spread rumors that can damage the reputation of people and/or certain programs.


QUOTE(Serenity @ Mar 11 2005, 01:33 PM)
Regarding John setting up his own site and charging. You are misguided and do not know enough about it and how it operates. For a mere $5.00 per month for all that he currently offers you would have to be foolish not to join. Additionally, it is not set up to operate the way 1worlddoublers does, so you are wrong about him receiving all the referrals.

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Why on Earth would we all be foolish to not join? Many of the veterans on this forum have had far more success in picking ventures than John has. This is a fact that can be proven. John has shown himself ineffective at picking good programs and making his followers money. I have no interests in spending even a dime to read his sub par analysis that is limited and almost always one step behind.
TheMobileHookup
I wasn't even a part of the conversation really but...

QUOTE(Serenity @ Mar 11 2005, 03:33 PM)

Is it not the nature of the business to solicit referrals? Do you think 1worlddoublers or any other on-line business as such does this purely to be kind? How would they exist without funds and why would they take up many hours a day to do all this work if not for referrals?


Believe it or not, some people don't care about referrals and such.

QUOTE

I think as adults we can do much better than this.

I will not be returning to this thread, as I've said what I wanted to and have no need to debate.

Good day to all of you.
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Adults stay to discuss when they make blanket statements against a group of people.
nuk
QUOTE(Serenity @ Mar 11 2005, 01:33 PM)
I think as adults we can do much better than this.

I will not be returning to this thread, as I've said what I wanted to and have no need to debate.

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Did John pay you for that endorsement? Sorry that debate seems *beneath* you, but I am guessing you don't want to be around to hear differing opinions more grounded in fact and reality.

I admit I have never heard of John or 1World until recently. Reading through his comments on his site, I laughed a few times due to his sense of humor and also at how wrong he was on what he chose to slag or endorse. Now as far as his new venture, why pay for frequently incorrect advice? I can get that all day long anywhere on the planet for free! If John is getting $5 for his advice, I need to start charging. My first paid bit would be
*don't pay John $5 for his advice*
NUK
Kenny
QUOTE(Serenity @ Mar 11 2005, 03:33 PM)
Hi everyone,

This is my first post on this forum, but not my first visit here. I have been enjoying reading this forum and the information available for many months. My preference on most forums, is to observe and learn rather than participate so rarely do I post anything. Unless, I have something important to contribute or I see bashing which is irrelevant to the purpose of the forum. Such as this particular thread.

Let me ask some of you a few questions, Kenny in particular, as he seems to have a personal vendetta against John from 1worlddoublers.

If you don't like 1worldoublers, why do you visit their site all the time, enough to know everything that goes on?

If you have an issue with John in particular, why not e-mail him and tell him in person rather than posting this nonsense without his knowledge?

Do you really think you are more professional than he is? Perhaps you don't say the offensive words he sometimes chooses to use, but instead you do it through slander.

Is it not the nature of the business to solicit referrals? Do you think 1worlddoublers or any other on-line business as such does this purely to be kind? How would they exist without funds and why would they take up many hours a day to do all this work if not for referrals?

And regarding the latest issue, I truly don't think most of you who have posted here have even bothered to fully read what John has written. Else you would not say what you have, instead, most of you are jumping on the bandwagon as in the western days to lynch who ever the leader suggests.

1worlddoublers has been in existence for quite some time and has gathered a very large following. There are those who participate and those who don't. There are those who gather information from John and those who choose to follow his advice. There are also those who choose to promote their own ventures using 1worlddoublers.  And there are those who are jealous of its success.

Regarding John setting up his own site and charging. You are misguided and do not know enough about it and how it operates. For a mere $5.00 per month for all that he currently offers you would have to be foolish not to join. Additionally, it is not set up to operate the way 1worlddoublers does, so you are wrong about him receiving all the referrals.

You see, if you decide to post something and slander somebody, it is best to take care and know your facts before doing so.

Some of the comments here are downright false, others are funny and some are even true. But mostly, they are slanderous and not at all necessary.

I think as adults we can do much better than this.

I will not be returning to this thread, as I've said what I wanted to and have no need to debate.

Good day to all of you.
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Actually I dont read the blog alot, people bring it to my attention. As far as OWL having a "huge" following thats BS. My background is in MLM and OWL was a JOKE thier too.

If John cared about his readers why did it take him so long to tell them about International Trade? Could it be because he doesnt get any referal commisions? Nice guy... John has been backing YUCS forever, why is that? He backed the scammer from moneymakersrated/kingpayout, John even said he spoke on the phone to him and he was a great guy. Makes ya wonder what Johns cut was of the money the guy stole.

Point is I care about people and I send them to programs that WORK. Like IT for example. Sure I have been wrong but I cut loose my ties alot sooner than JOHN could dream of. HE backed ECC till like thanksgiving. Thats a JOKE. ECC was paying me and I bailed sooner than him.

The guy is a loser and I have caught them in MANY lies which I have proof of. So it isnt SLANDER. Its the truth.

Dont come back and "debate", because thier is no debate.

John is also giving a website/splash page for $5. Ya thats worth it. His rants and reviews are comical at best and if you want to use his advice. Just do the opposite of what he says and 90% of the time you will make money.

Just like in MLM people pay OWL to back them and OWLs people get hurt. Thats why OWL has a million + subscribers. But like 1500 who might follow them, and NONE of those 1500 have been thier 6 months at least not many of them.

IM done... NEXT ?
Collector
What you gus think about this?

I just got it from 2W Club admin:

QUOTE
From: "2W Club" <Admin@2wclub.com>  Add to Address Book
To: Admin@2wclub.com
Subject: 04/20/2005 - Urgent - read

   
Hello,

I guess some one has been trying tonight to destroy 2W Club.
It's the scam promoters: 1WorldDoublers

Read yourself and make your judgement:


This is a missleading message that they have sent tonight to their
subscribers:

To: "-----" <-----@yahoo.com>
From: "1WorldDoublers" <support@1worlddoublers.com>  Add to Address
Book
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:55:12 -0400
Subject: ALERT - April 18th - 1WorldDoublers Team


Hello -----.  It's js.

I just sent the below letter to admin@intgold.com to try and stop yet
another ponzi/scam.


"Read the BLOG at both here:
http://9planetreviews.com/team/ivan/blog.shtml
and at http://1worlddoublers.com/html/blog.html

in reference to 2wClub.com

The Admin does NOT realize that am one and the same Admin at both
9PlanetReviews.com and at 1WorldDoublers.com!

So I have caused him/her to reveal themselves!

They refuse to cooperate and offer contact info.

And are offering 14% per day!  that would mean, if they are truly
trading,
70% per week or 280% per month!

And as you know, if they are truly investing, that is impossible,
especially
as they are starting out with zero dollars!

So this is a true ponzi, with no product, and are only there to
deceive.

I am tired of those and will continue to report them to you!

Please freeze their account before it is too late.  They opened 5 pm
ESt
today.

You may communicate with them at Admin@2wclub.com"

Thanks.


Sincerely,

DR, David, and John.
The 1WorldDoublers Team.
--------
1WD Retirement Program!  In the midst of the volatile Doubler
industry we are building a secure, long-lasting income.  We're
building a team right now and you can be a part of it... take
a closer look at it here:
http://1worlddoublers.com/html/ffsi.html

1WorldDoublers
23 Bridle Rd.
New Milford, CT 06776
U.S.A.


To unsubscribe or change subscriber options visit:
http://www.aweber.com/z/r/?TExMDIystMzsTJycnCxs  -----<End





This is the discussion between us and Mr js:




Date:  Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:00:54 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
[04/19/2005
03:00:54 AM BST]
From:  js <admin@9planetreviews.com>
To:  2W Club <Admin@2wclub.com>
Subject:  Re: 4/18/2005 - 2W Clup Is Opening
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I will watch you for a couple of weeks, and then decide if I should
invest
or not, and recommend to others.
]
But Listen, how can you guarantee 14% per day?  You need not reveal all
your
secrets, but that seems....VERY VERY high.



-------Original Message-------

From: 2W Club
Date: 04/18/05 21:54:37
To: js
Subject: Re: 4/18/2005 - 2W Clup Is Opening

Hello,

I don't think that they are much respected as you think. I reSpect your
opinion
any way even if it's against us.


Regards,

2W Club
Support: Admin@2wclub.com
Site: http://www.2wclub.com

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Quoting js <admin@9planetreviews.com>:

> Well, I think their attitude is...there are far too many to contact,
they
> sprout up every day.
>
> So they analyse the returns and clearly you cannot generate enough
returns
> in any market
> short of having 10MIllion to give people 14% daily!  So that's a
ponzi.
And

[Hide Quoted Text]
> of course the quickest
> way to get your attention, is to do what they did!  You see?  Now, if
you
> cooperate (why? because not
> only INTGold but other review sites are getting into line on this)
and
> contact them, give them your
> phone number, address and so on, and not hide....well, they may just
list
> you, and if they do, being
> a very respected site, you will have LOTS of money coming in!
>
> Trust me.
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: 2W Club
> Date: 04/18/05 21:16:02
> To: js
> Subject: Re: 4/18/2005 - 2W Clup Is Opening
>
> Hello,
>
> First of all They didn't ask me for a review , documentation or tried
> to get in
> contact with me. They just pre-judged me. So they think that they are
> the Kings
> of reviews and every thing has to go through them? should I beg them
to
> contact
> and verify me? No way. If they were a little more opjective and said
we

don

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> t
> know the owners. we will try to verify who are they....? then That
would
> have
> been understandable.
>
> Any way.... Thanx for advice...
> Regards,
>
> 2W Club
> Support: Admin@2wclub.com
> Site: http://www.2wclub.com
>
> ----------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Quoting js <admin@9planetreviews.com>:
>
>> Well that is poor thinking and a big reaction on your part.
>>
>> Because in fact 1wd has warned against, and saved people much money
with
>> the biggest scams, such as FinancialBlessing, Double50, and a few
others.
>> Those
>> am aware of.
>>
>> You see, you can't go blame any review site that they are a source
of the
>> biggest scams!
>>
>> Because they all repot on the same ones!  Some support the scams
without
>> knowing it,
>> some know it and DO NOT support them.
>>
>> Some get fooled!  Like the recent one you point out!  Sure, but that
was
> no
>> BIG scam.
>> The idiot got away with maybe 30K, that's what I hear.  That's
NOTHING as
>> compared to
>> what Jay Jones got away with FB!
>>
>> So you see, relax!  Do not react!  Simply cooperate and then instead
of
> you
>> being called
>> a scam they may turn around and support you once they get a chance
to
> speak
>> to you
>> on the phone!  You see?  You need to be locatable and accountable! 
That

s

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>> all!  but you are
>> refusing to do that.  So what else could they do but name you as a
> scammer!
>> These days
>> people are becoming very fickle and careful!
>>
>> So.....no harm done, simply contact 1wd admin, provide a phone
number and
>> let them talk
>> to you!
>>
>> I would also change my review of you as well, provided you provide
>> convincing info!
>>
>> Don' you see that we are all trying to prevent more runaways!???? 
Don't
>> you?
>>
>>
>>
>> -------Original Message-------
>>
>> From: 2W Club
>> Date: 04/18/05 20:58:02
>> To: js
>> Subject: Re: 4/18/2005 - 2W Clup Is Opening
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I started talking about them because of what you accused me of and

because

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>> the
>> latest biggest scam occured with the help of theirt promotion:
>>
>>> Quoting js <admin@9planetreviews.com>:
>>>
>>>> Yes, and you're not going to run off with our money like Kwame
Saahene
>>
>> did
>>
>> [Hide Quoted Text]
>>>> of higherprofit7.com, right?
>>>>
>>>> Sure!
>>
>> As you know they were the firstand the most who promoted
higherprofit7

com

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>> not
>> only by listing but through their e-mails and more than 1 time..take
a
> look
>> at
>> what people got from them:
>>
>>
>> [From: "1WorldDoublers" <support@1worlddoublers.com>  Add to Address
Book
>> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:06:05 -0400
>> Subject: ALERT - April 10th - 1WorldDoublers Team
>>
>>
>> Hello ----, a Sunday night update for you.
>>
>> HigherProfit7 is doing well.  Now why am I telling you this?
>>
>> Well, because until our own cycler launches, this is one of
>> the better ones to spend in.  That's all.  Why not build up
>> your funds so you can spend them in ours?
>>
>> Just be smart about it.  Don't get greedy.  I've told you all
>> this before. So you know.
>>
>> I'm also investigating a lot of HYIP sites.  Just so you know.
>> That's coming as well.
>>
>> Right now I will tell you that they are no different, in 99% of
>> the cases from cyclers!  So if you are planning on running to
>> the HYIPs?  Ha!  You'll end up with the same old game that
>> I have been reporting on.  And will continue.
>>
>> So...for now... join here: http://www.higherprofit7.com/?161481 ]
>>
>> Doesn't that make you wonder?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> 2W Club
>> Support: Admin@2wclub.com
>> Site: http://www.2wclub.com
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting js <admin@9planetreviews.com>:
>>
>>> You are ignoring the fact that many other review sites, like
>> DoublerTracker
>>> for instance, listed much the
>>> same sites!
>>>
>>> So why are you singling out 1worlddoublers?  This is very suspect.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -------Original Message-------
>>>
>>> From: 2W Club
>>> Date: 04/18/05 20:29:58
>>> To: js
>>> Subject: Re: 4/18/2005 - 2W Clup Is Opening
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I didn't say 1worlddoublers are scammers. I said the biggest scams

worked

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>> by
>>> their help. if it's ignorance or any hidden
>>> game...e-doubler...kingpayout...etc
>>> while they ignored the hell out of good doublers and cyclers at the
same
>>> time.
>>> this just makes some one wonder what kind of games are being played
> behind
>>> curtains.
>>>
>>> I DIDN'T ACCUSE YOU ...AND I WOULD NEVER ACCUSE NY BODY THAT I HAVE
>>> JUST KNOWN.
>>> I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH YOUR SITE OR REVIEWS YET.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> 2W Club
>>> Support: Admin@2wclub.com
>>> Site: http://www.2wclub.com
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting js <admin@9planetreviews.com>:
>>>
>>>> The biggest scams came from 1worlddoublers?  A review site?
>>>>
>>>> Holy cow!
>>>>
>>>> Now I know that you are scammers!  Because they have listed
cyclers

from

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>>> the
>>>> start,
>>>> and most have failed, like they all do, but have always been
honest
> about
>>>> the listings!
>>>>
>>>> The scammers are those admins who ran with the money, like Joe of
>>>> wa360group!
>>>>
>>>> And why are you accusing 1worlddoublers.com?  It's a review site,
not a
>>>> cycler.
>>>>
>>>> Please explain further.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------Original Message-------
>>>>
>>>> From: 2W Club
>>>> Date: 04/18/05 19:50:58
>>>> To: js
>>>> Subject: Re: 4/18/2005 - 2W Clup Is Opening
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> We are not running. The biggest scams came from 1worlddoublers.
Don't
>>> invest
>>>> now. Just watch & may be you will change your mind some day. By
the way



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>>> our
>>>> target group is not those who deals with hyips and doublers. Those
just
>>>> hit and
>>>> run. We are targeting those who are still out, those who may trust
us
> and
>>>> keep
>>>> investing and promoting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> 2W Club
>>>> Support: Admin@2wclub.com
>>>> Site: http://www.2wclub.com
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Quoting js <admin@9planetreviews.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, and you're not going to run off with our money like Kwame
Saahene
>>> did
>>>>> of higherprofit7.com, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure!
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a ponzi scheme to begin with.  Why should any of my readers
trust
>>>> you?
>>>>>
>>>>> js
>>>>>
>>>>> -------Original Message-------
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Admin@2WClub.com
>>>>> Date: 04/18/05 16:45:00
>>>>> To: admin@9planetreviews.com
>>>>> Subject: 4/18/2005 - 2W Clup Is Opening
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello John Stankiewicz
>>>>>
>>>>> Your account name is micronuts
>>>>> Your e-mail is admin@9planetreviews.com
>>>>> Your e-gold account is 1610172
>>>>> You have been registered: 2005-04-15 04:04:55
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2W Club is opening. Starting from 05:00 pm EST all of you can
invest

in

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>>>> one
>>>>> or more of our investing plans. You will get 10%-14% daily of
whatever
>>>>> amount you invest.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We wish you the best
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2W Club
>>>>> Contact: Admin@2WClub.com
>>>>> Site: http://www.2WClub.com
>>>>>
>>>>>


For further information take a look here:

http://www.moneymakergroup.com/index.php?s...=1worlddoublers



2W Club
Support: Admin@2wclub.com
Site: http://www.2wclub.com
Collector
I think 2W Club admin is right about calling them liars.
This js guy from 1WorldDoublers says :

"I will watch you for a couple of weeks, and then decide if I should
invest
or not, and recommend to others."

Then why he send this email saying 2W Club is scam?


oNLooKER
After someone finishes reading all that up there...summarise it out cause i aint reading all that just for 1WD... harhar.gif
Collector
After reading the whole thread and going over the sites that 2WClub admin and kenny claimed that 1Worlddoublers recomended I'm in SHOCK ohmy.gif

Those guys at 1Worlddoubler act like the "Mob" on in doublers world.
Adramelech
QUOTE(oNLooKER @ Apr 20 2005, 06:26 PM)
After someone finishes reading all that up there...summarise it out cause i aint reading all that just for 1WD... harhar.gif
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same here... laugh.gif
tped60
QUOTE(Adramelech @ Apr 20 2005, 11:02 AM)
same here...  laugh.gif
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Just gimme the shocking details laugh.gif
nuk
Anyone can write a newsletter or whatever and say *this new doubler is a ponzi* Why? BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL PONZIS! Tell us something we didn't know already.

What matters is whether admin pays anything and will it last for more than a few minutes. That's what people want to know. This *I'm going to tell on you* and so forth is real lame. Look at how 1world *protected* the masses from getting scammed with, say,HigherProfit, by recommending it! That's just one of many.

This reeks of anything to try and earn a buck. No integrity, poor track record and childish acts like running to tell mommy. The people who follow and join doublers arerapidly dwindling and 1world is focusing on this dying area offering a service very few want or care about.
NUK
Kowgirl
QUOTE(nuk @ Apr 20 2005, 08:44 AM)
Anyone can write a newsletter or whatever and say *this new doubler is a ponzi* Why? BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL PONZIS! Tell us something we didn't know already.

What matters is whether admin pays anything and will it last for more than a few minutes. That's what people want to know. This *I'm going to tell on you* and so forth is  real lame. Look at how 1world *protected* the masses from getting scammed with, say,HigherProfit, by recommending it! That's just one of many.

This reeks of anything to try and earn a buck. No integrity, poor track record and childish acts like running to tell mommy. The people who follow and join doublers arerapidly dwindling and 1world is focusing on this dying area offering a service very few want or care about.
NUK
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Yes!! they are all "Ponzi's".
Thanks for reminding us.
Cor
1wd is slooowly learning that they have been wrong in the past endorsing crap doublers

Now they are labeling every new doubler that comes out either a ponzi or a scam if the admin fails to produce sufficient operational plans and contact information.
Finally a noble move on 1WD's part, I hope they continue in this direction.
micronuts
QUOTE(Kenny @ Mar 5 2005, 02:57 AM)
Checkout the latest blog by 1world... shows alot of professionalism to me.. what do ya'll think...

http://1worlddoublers.com/html/blog.html

the first paragraph says it all... i am thinking tho..these HYIP he is talking about is he talking about IT ? I havent seen any report by 1worold about IT. Guess they dont tell thier people about programs that they cant get referal commisions from...ya he is a TEAM PLAYER...

Oh ya and dont forget John set up his own site, he is going to charge people to read his "reviews" ...good idea John...charging people to be your referals...your such a leader John....
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First off, Kenny, notice that throughout the entire conversation with 2wClub admin, he has failed to end the whole thing by providing CONTACT INFO!

Now why is that? Why fight with me? Why not provide a phone number etc. so that we can hold them accountable? Becaues they do not WANT to be accountable, that's why!

The other thing I want to clear up is that 1WorldDoublers.com is a REVIEW site for CYCLERS/DOUBLERS and so that's what we usually review. Now I've chosen to look at 2WClub because they are simply a cycler! They don't invest anywhere. And it is now the trend to use HYIP scripts for cyclers.

Now, as to my other review site, I don't charge for reviews! The BLOG is free. I do have an ALERT SERVICE for an outrageous $5 per month, and the primary purpose of that is to ALERT paid members of new opps coming out ahead of the crowd. Why should I review things for free??? There are plenty of sites that review things for free, and do a poor job of it, and list any new opp that they come accross where they think they can get some good referral commissions and don't give a darn whether what they're putting up is a ponzi, scam, or if it is a legitimate opp.

And ma TIRED of scams like the last one we went through, I made the mistake of not getting CONTACT info and the guy ran with 9 days worht of intake! And no way to stop him! Now if I had an address and phone number I could at least phone the COPS where he lives and get him arrested!

So am NOT going to list any more cyclers at 1worlddoublers.com where I can't obtain CONTACT info! See? That's all am after!

And MANY support me in this because we are all tired of these scammers. So I don't understand, Kenny, why you are in support of potential scammers? At least you seem to be.

I will not argue any further. You have not paid for an argument. If you wish to argue further, send $800 to my intgold account: 188892

Har!

js
againstbush
QUOTE(micronuts @ Apr 20 2005, 09:13 PM)
I will not argue any further.  You have not paid for an argument.  If you wish to argue further, send $800 to my intgold account: 188892
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Cor
QUOTE(againstbush @ Apr 20 2005, 02:24 PM)
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i laughed when i read it lol

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oNLooKER
I hear these guys are coming out with their own program.... a 1WD doubler.... or something.....


So I think 1WD should provides us with their CONTACT information so if any of us lose money we can REPORT them too.....


My verdict is the program from 1WD will be a ponzi and will list them as a scam unless admins provide contact information. harhar.gif
-0NLooKER-


Hey I can get use to this, might get a review site for me self.. tongue.gif
DoubleMeUp
So which doublers aren't ponzis?
stocky
QUOTE(micronuts @ Apr 20 2005, 12:13 PM)
First off, Kenny, notice that throughout the entire conversation with 2wClub admin, he has failed to end the whole thing by providing CONTACT INFO!

Now why is that?  Why fight with me?  Why not provide a phone number etc. so that we can hold them accountable?  Becaues they do not WANT to be accountable, that's why!

The other thing I want to clear up is that 1WorldDoublers.com is a REVIEW site for CYCLERS/DOUBLERS and so that's what we usually review.  Now I've chosen to look at 2WClub because they are simply a cycler!  They don't invest anywhere.  And it is now the trend to use HYIP scripts for cyclers.

Now, as to my other review site, I don't charge for reviews!  The BLOG is free.  I do have an ALERT SERVICE for an outrageous $5 per month, and the primary purpose of that is to ALERT paid members of new opps coming out ahead of the crowd.  Why should I review things for free??? There are plenty of sites that review things for free, and do a poor job of it, and list any new opp that they come accross where they think they can get some good referral commissions and don't give a darn whether what they're putting up is a ponzi, scam, or if it is a legitimate opp.

And ma TIRED of scams like the last one we went through, I made the mistake of not getting CONTACT info and the guy ran with 9 days worht of intake!  And no way to stop him!  Now if I had an address and phone number I could at least phone the COPS where he lives and get him arrested!

So am NOT going to list any more cyclers at 1worlddoublers.com where I can't obtain CONTACT info!  See?  That's all am after! 

And MANY support me in this because we are all tired of these scammers.  So I don't understand, Kenny, why you are in support of potential scammers?  At least you seem to be.

I will not argue any further.  You have not paid for an argument.  If you wish to argue further, send $800 to my intgold account: 188892

Har!

js
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I think your wrong. It seems that 2WClub admin refusing to contact them because they said he is scam before contacting him. he sounds mad because of them prejudging him. If i was in his place i get mad and do the same furious.gif
oNLooKER
1WD is just plain dumb....

Not all admins are scammers and I doubt most of them will provide any contact details anyway.

All doublers and cyclers DIE and people have to face the fact that it's a risk and spend only what you can afford to lose.

Do some DD before joining any of them and you'll do fine.

If I was an admin of any doubler or cycler or whatever, I aint gonna give my details away cause the fact that 3-4 months down the road the program might die and I aint gonna have lunatics come chasing after me!!
Programs DIE not because admins are scammers, it's because the spends that flow in are not enough to pay spends that flow out!
If you were to open a doubler/cycler with intentions to invest members money, then open an investment program!! Why in the world open a doubler?!

If i were to open a program and do refunds to Everyone after it's gone, I might as well just give out free money in the beggining cause that's what it'll end up to be. Refunds are basically money coming out of admins own pockets or using what's left of the money pool to do refunds. If the program died because of insufficient funds in money pool, how in the world will admin give out refunds to everyone..... unless he risks his own neck by investing those spends and praying his investments come out ok to enable him to do refunds!!

Programs will sprout here and there and some will survive some will die some are honest some are not... it's up to each and every individual to take the time and do their own DD before taking part, dang it's your money your investing so you'd better put the time to check up on where your stuffing it into!!



I need a coffe break.

lifelongventureadmin
if all doublers die how come still ymmss and pin is going strong

nothing fails when it is done correctly

and reading everybody here i preassume you all assume 1wd is dumb well guess what they are not dumb beacuse the way i see it i too read their blog evry day

and even if 2wclub had a fight why dont 2wclub just give the phone number and contact info and end this drama and proove themselves instead 2wclub doesnt do it and i say they are a scam,10-14% daily
for who is the ?

atleast doublers will give double your money in one payment and not 15-20 payments.

2wclub aint going anywhere,now a days its really hard to fool anybody.

peace.
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