I am wondering myself this for quite some time now:
How many of you are living from online investing or other online revenues? Is it possible to make a decent money online, also without really high risk, so at least some of the monthly income is assured?
And of course, I don`t count programmers, computer masters and similar professions... let`s talk only about possibilites a "computer dummy" person has online?
I really look forward for opinions and shared experiences
Aqua Marine
May 19 2006, 02:54 AM
i was for a couple months then lost most of it so now have to get a job again lol
Netty
May 19 2006, 02:55 AM
QUOTE(Aqua Marine @ May 19 2006, 12:54 PM) [snapback]2140449[/snapback]
i was for a couple months then lost most of it so now have to get a job again lol
lol well this is basic what I want to figure out... is it possible to survive also if you loose a lot, but some basic income is there for sure?
Aqua Marine
May 19 2006, 02:58 AM
dunno sweets but if u find out let me know lol
Global*Money
May 19 2006, 03:00 AM
Maybe you ladies should try some Reputable online MLM programs. Dont ask me what program cause i really dont know.
Hyip/autosurf are only money games in my opinion.
And also maybe read up some adsense book and maybe try to make some money with a website providing informations.
Monthly income assured? I dont know about this The more risk you take, the more money you can get.
My 2 cents
Netty
May 19 2006, 03:04 AM
QUOTE(Global*Money @ May 19 2006, 01:00 PM) [snapback]2140476[/snapback]
Maybe you ladies should try some Reputable online MLM programs. Dont ask me what program cause i really dont know.
Hyip/autosurf are only money games in my opinion.
And also maybe read up some adsense book and maybe try to make some money with a website providing informations.
Monthly income assured? I dont know about this The more risk you take, the more money you can get.
My 2 cents
Thanks global... very worthy 2 cents
Can you explain me what you have in mind with website providing information? Some forum or something else?
Kenny
May 19 2006, 03:07 AM
QUOTE(Global*Money @ May 19 2006, 05:00 AM) [snapback]2140476[/snapback]
Maybe you ladies should try some Reputable online MLM programs. Dont ask me what program cause i really dont know.
Hyip/autosurf are only money games in my opinion.
And also maybe read up some adsense book and maybe try to make some money with a website providing informations.
Monthly income assured? I dont know about this The more risk you take, the more money you can get.
My 2 cents
Ya not to sound like a MLM PIMP or anything, but a tried n true mlm program would be the way to go. Something like Xo would be a good start. Its a slow build, might take ya 6 months to a year to replace your job. However I know poeple who have made a living like this for years and its stress free considering the AS/Ponzi lifestyle.
Also you could try to chase some google money. Or look into affliate advertising via google ad words...
Netty
May 19 2006, 03:11 AM
QUOTE(Kenny @ May 19 2006, 01:07 PM) [snapback]2140504[/snapback]
Ya not to sound like a MLM PIMP or anything, but a tried n true mlm program would be the way to go. Something like Xo would be a good start. Its a slow build, might take ya 6 months to a year to replace your job. However I know poeple who have made a living like this for years and its stress free considering the AS/Ponzi lifestyle.
Also you could try to chase some google money. Or look into affliate advertising via google ad words...
Thanks Kenny.. looks I will have to learn a lot.. have no expiriences with this kind of programs...
Hope this are not programs where you have to chase people to join in? Is it same sytem like when you get refferals for AS?
Global*Money
May 19 2006, 03:15 AM
QUOTE(Netty @ May 19 2006, 04:04 AM) [snapback]2140494[/snapback]
Thanks global... very worthy 2 cents
Can you explain me what you have in mind with website providing information? Some forum or something else?
Personally i have not tried earning money from blog meself but i heard it works. Maybe you should read up some google adsense book. I like richjerk ebook, very informative.
Netty
May 19 2006, 03:17 AM
QUOTE(Global*Money @ May 19 2006, 01:15 PM) [snapback]2140530[/snapback]
Personally i have not tried earning money from blog meself but i heard it works. Maybe you should read up some google adsense book. I like richjerk ebook, very informative.
aha.. great I will start with that then, at least to get basics..
I have just one second thought with beeing a professional online investor.. you must spend soooooooooo many hours behind computer... and that`s not so attractive
Global*Money
May 19 2006, 03:25 AM
QUOTE(Netty @ May 19 2006, 04:17 AM) [snapback]2140539[/snapback]
aha.. great I will start with that then, at least to get basics..
I have just one second thought with beeing a professional online investor.. you must spend soooooooooo many hours behind computer... and that`s not so attractive
Always remember one branch will leads to another branch. To be successful online, one should have multiple source of income. You should diversify your portfolio.
I wouldnt call that spending time. I would call that "Investing time" Investing time building something that can bring you passive income.
More importantly, investing time learning as that will become your best assets
Kenny
May 19 2006, 03:30 AM
QUOTE(Netty @ May 19 2006, 05:11 AM) [snapback]2140519[/snapback]
Thanks Kenny.. looks I will have to learn a lot.. have no expiriences with this kind of programs...
Hope this are not programs where you have to chase people to join in? Is it same sytem like when you get refferals for AS?
I dont know if I would join something that I felt like I had to "chase people to join in". If I wanted to be that seedy I would of went to LAW school where I could chase ambulances.
Alot of the good MLM'ers are good because its something they believe in. They believe in the product. Xo for example. The top earners in that company believe that it is something that certain people need. My expierence with MLM was based on PRODUCT PRODUCT PRODUCT. When you went to a confrence all you heard about was the product. Not that some guy bought another LAmborgini. I have seen testimonials from people about a product where they break down crying.
Those are the kinds of MLM's I would work. Not some over priced, over hyped company thats basically garbage and the payplans are for the sharks.
When a person opens a gift shop, day care, store, resturant etc, they work there but off cause its something they want and believe in. If someone joins a MLM program because their sponsor said they make 60k a month. Money is the passion and when they see the work involved they usually look for something easier.
For example, Jason (Owner of MMG) is very dedicated to MMG (MMG is his child) thats why MMG is the success it is. Thats why Jason is constantly looking for ways to make MMG better. His pasion is why most of us have stayed around here for so long. If Jason didnt care and just let go to crap like most forums. Then we would be looking elsewhere.
Hope this helps.
Netty
May 19 2006, 03:40 AM
QUOTE(Global*Money @ May 19 2006, 01:25 PM) [snapback]2140563[/snapback]
More importantly, investing time learning as that will become your best assets
yup agree... more you learn, richer you are.. and probably once you get some knowledge things are going much faster and easier...
Do you live from online income?
QUOTE(Kenny @ May 19 2006, 01:30 PM) [snapback]2140585[/snapback]
Those are the kinds of MLM's I would work. Not some over priced, over hyped company thats basically garbage and the payplans are for the sharks.
Yeah tell me about it... I was invited at two such presentations, and I was in fact shocked. People behave like they are one big happy family, aplauding to each other and talking only about how much money who earned and how to convince people to join in... nothing much about what they offer in fact to those people... It looked a bit brainwashed to me
QUOTE(Kenny @ May 19 2006, 01:30 PM) [snapback]2140585[/snapback]
When a person opens a gift shop, day care, store, resturant etc, they work there but off cause its something they want and believe in. If someone joins a MLM program because their sponsor said they make 60k a month. Money is the passion and when they see the work involved they usually look for something easier.
For example, Jason (Owner of MMG) is very dedicated to MMG (MMG is his child) thats why MMG is the success it is. Thats why Jason is constantly looking for ways to make MMG better. His pasion is why most of us have stayed around here for so long. If Jason didnt care and just let go to crap like most forums. Then we would be looking elsewhere.
Hope this helps.
Well that is it in any way of life and work.. If you are devoted and dedicated to your work, or your work is a hobby for you, there is no way, that you would not succeed..
It helped Kenny... thanks for sharing your thoughts
Aqua Marine
May 19 2006, 03:54 AM
to be honest i think that MLM to the degree they become obsessed and live it is because its basically a form of brainwashing,
its actually scary the way they go on
jacomatt8
May 19 2006, 04:14 AM
I like to think that I could make a living just from online investments ...the past 3 month I have made a lot of money from autosurfs. About 5 k every month. But since I´m a college student and have various other jobs as well I guess I like to have some variety in life. Money isn´t everything
Aqua Marine
May 19 2006, 04:18 AM
u can send it to me then jaco cos im getting desperate lol
Netty
May 19 2006, 04:34 AM
QUOTE(jacomatt8 @ May 19 2006, 02:14 PM) [snapback]2140761[/snapback]
I like to think that I could make a living just from online investments ...the past 3 month I have made a lot of money from autosurfs. About 5 k every month. But since I´m a college student and have various other jobs as well I guess I like to have some variety in life. Money isn´t everything
well, you must take care you don`t get too rich, as then you will attract only certain part of female population
Howcome you didn`t loose any?
xRealNinjuzx
May 19 2006, 04:38 AM
I work at home.
I run a couple of different websites and thats about it. It isnt a lot, but it keeps me from having to go into an office every day. I did that for quite a while and Jason rescued me
Thank god for MMG and the internet O_O
Netty
May 19 2006, 04:47 AM
QUOTE(xRealNinjuzx @ May 19 2006, 02:38 PM) [snapback]2140847[/snapback]
I work at home.
I run a couple of different websites and thats about it. It isnt a lot, but it keeps me from having to go into an office every day. I did that for quite a while and Jason rescued me
Thank god for MMG and the internet O_O
Do you ever get bored working only from home? I mean as you don`t see collegues or something, what ordinary jobs offers?
jacomatt8
May 19 2006, 04:55 AM
QUOTE(Netty @ May 19 2006, 02:34 PM) [snapback]2140830[/snapback]
well, you must take care you don`t get too rich, as then you will attract only certain part of female population
Howcome you didn`t loose any?
It´s not possible to get too rich!!!! And It´s just peaunuts I´m making.....
Why I haven´t lost much the last 8 month ...I knew when too quit and move on. I took the risk ...doubled or tripled my money and moved on thus avoiding loosing big so far ... but one of these days I will make a false move and loose big time ...Like Global Money said ...it´s like a game ...but I take games very seriously because I hate to loose money.
gonsaigon
May 19 2006, 05:36 AM
I make a living here, its's not huge, but once in a while a program like 12dp comes along, and the pickings are rich. It's all about not being greedy, take your profit and run. I am not, and never will be a downline builder, for those that are, fine, but I believe there is a responsibility here that I don't want to take.
Any one that expects easy money is kidding themselves, it is hard stressfull work.
Pete
Netty
May 19 2006, 05:58 AM
QUOTE(jacomatt8 @ May 19 2006, 02:55 PM) [snapback]2140918[/snapback]
.it´s like a game ...but I take games very seriously because I hate to loose money.
ok, from now on, I will hang from your neck to ask for advices about certain sites lol
May I?
QUOTE(gonsaigon @ May 19 2006, 03:36 PM) [snapback]2141078[/snapback]
I make a living here, its's not huge, but once in a while a program like 12dp comes along, and the pickings are rich. It's all about not being greedy, take your profit and run. I am not, and never will be a downline builder, for those that are, fine, but I believe there is a responsibility here that I don't want to take.
Any one that expects easy money is kidding themselves, it is hard stressfull work.
Pete
I agree Pete... greed is killer in this sites.. and lots of work has to be done, before success shows... also a lot of trust into what you are doing..
But guys, you gave me quite some spirit now, that online investing has some future
jacomatt8
May 19 2006, 06:14 AM
QUOTE(Netty @ May 19 2006, 03:58 PM) [snapback]2141161[/snapback]
ok, from now on, I will hang from your neck to ask for advices about certain sites lol
May I? I agree Pete... greed is killer in this sites.. and lots of work has to be done, before success shows... also a lot of trust into what you are doing..
But guys, you gave me quite some spirit now, that online investing has some future
I will always try to help you Netty if I can ...but I´m not a fortuneteller. Don´t lean too much on others though ...then we end up like Lemmings. I don´t do that anymore myself because I have learnt to trust my gut instincts and DD´s about programs. I have learnt that nobody´s is unfallible when it comes to these risky online investments. Investments is risky like linedancing ...we all fall sometimes. But like Soren Kierkegaard ( A danish philosopher) said " It´s not about trying to avoid falling at all costs ...but to get back up when you have fallen". Ask different persons in these forum about advice and then make up your OWN mind whether you think you want to take a risk with a certain program. I´m not an expert just a happy go lucky guy.
TheMobileHookup
May 19 2006, 06:29 AM
QUOTE(Netty @ May 19 2006, 08:47 AM) [snapback]2140883[/snapback]
Do you ever get bored working only from home? I mean as you don`t see collegues or something, what ordinary jobs offers?
If you get bored, you go for a drive, go to the post office, go shop, whatever it is. But you have the freedom to do that.
Who needs collegues...ordinary jobs offer nothing these days. No stability, if you do better than your boss, expect to be fired. Not worth the headaches.
Aqua Marine
May 19 2006, 06:37 AM
QUOTE(TheMobileHookup @ May 19 2006, 03:29 PM) [snapback]2141351[/snapback]
If you get bored, you go for a drive, go to the post office, go shop, whatever it is. But you have the freedom to do that.
Who needs collegues...ordinary jobs offer nothing these days. No stability, if you do better than your boss, expect to be fired. Not worth the headaches.
wish i had the option lol
RollinInDough
May 19 2006, 06:49 AM
how exactly does the structure for the autosurfs come out?
Doommister
May 19 2006, 07:27 AM
we just want to do what we want and earn a lot of money, don't we ?
Netty
May 19 2006, 07:44 AM
QUOTE(jacomatt8 @ May 19 2006, 04:14 PM) [snapback]2141243[/snapback]
I will always try to help you Netty if I can ...but I´m not a fortuneteller. Don´t lean too much on others though ...then we end up like Lemmings. I don´t do that anymore myself because I have learnt to trust my gut instincts and DD´s about programs. I have learnt that nobody´s is unfallible when it comes to these risky online investments. Investments is risky like linedancing ...we all fall sometimes. But like Soren Kierkegaard ( A danish philosopher) said " It´s not about trying to avoid falling at all costs ...but to get back up when you have fallen". Ask different persons in these forum about advice and then make up your OWN mind whether you think you want to take a risk with a certain program. I´m not an expert just a happy go lucky guy.
Thanks jacob, you are very nice.. in fact I have to admitt I met a lot of very helpfull persons on this forum, and all helped me without problem, or share experiences or give me advice.. I full appreciate that, and I thank to all of you for that. I have learnt so, so much from all... I have a bit disatvantage, because I am not good computer skiled, so for me certain things are hard to understand... for ex. whois info is for me worser as I would read esperanto lol But I do have a good feeling for economics, and numbers.. what is better investment right now etc, etc... that is why online investing on one hand full attractive for me, and on other hand anything that I am experienced and good in reall life, doesnt count while your on net, because there is so many other "non economical" factors involved..
QUOTE(TheMobileHookup @ May 19 2006, 04:29 PM) [snapback]2141351[/snapback]
If you get bored, you go for a drive, go to the post office, go shop, whatever it is. But you have the freedom to do that.
Who needs collegues...ordinary jobs offer nothing these days. No stability, if you do better than your boss, expect to be fired. Not worth the headaches.
well I am a person who desperately need freedom, and I do have a lot of freedom at my work as well... (they had no choice lol).. but... when I see potential of internet and onlin investments it is just too much attractive, not to think about it, to get a bit more pro on this... And I am not talking about some easy and huge fast earnings..
And I also am a lot aware of disadvantages of online life
LucasWorkshop
May 19 2006, 08:40 AM
QUOTE(Netty @ May 19 2006, 01:17 PM) [snapback]2140539[/snapback]
aha.. great I will start with that then, at least to get basics..
I have just one second thought with beeing a professional online investor.. you must spend soooooooooo many hours behind computer... and that`s not so attractive
yes, but let me tell you one thing ...
I spend a lot of time with my guitar and then suddenly that something came to me, I found it, I found myself ... and today I can play whatever i want because I have found myself, my style ...
then I figured out that if music is a game of sounds then business is a game of numbers
then I decided that I will do the same with the computer and internet, because I don't want to play music for money ... I want to play it for fun and joy and for money i will play the game of numbers!
now I am still spending a lot of time in front of my computer and still searching for that something untill I find it
THE ONLY WAY TO FAIL IS TO QUIT!
Maybe I should do some mantra
I am earning $10 000.00 monthly online! I am earning $10 000.00 monthly online! I am earning $10 000.00 monthly online! I am earning $10 000.00 monthly online! I am earning $10 000.00 monthly online! I am earning $10 000.00 monthly online! I am earning $10 000.00 monthly online! I am earning $10 000.00 monthly online! I am earning $10 000.00 monthly online! I am earning $10 000.00 monthly online! I am earning $10 000.00 monthly online! I am earning $10 000.00 monthly online! I am earning $10 000.00 monthly online! I am earning $10 000.00 monthly online! I am earning $10 000.00 monthly online! I am earning $10 000.00 monthly online! I am earning $10 000.00 monthly online! I am earning $10 000.00 monthly online!
Untill I make it online I will just continue to be "hungry"
Gizmo
May 19 2006, 08:53 AM
QUOTE(TheMobileHookup @ May 19 2006, 10:29 AM) [snapback]2141351[/snapback]
If you get bored, you go for a drive, go to the post office, go shop, whatever it is. But you have the freedom to do that.
Who needs collegues...ordinary jobs offer nothing these days. No stability, if you do better than your boss, expect to be fired. Not worth the headaches.
Boy did you ever nail the bolded comment right.
geoseban
May 19 2006, 10:28 AM
i like to be with the computer as much as possible,may be 18 hours a day. internet is the next big thing in our way like automotives in the past.if you are into it,money is still there,but need to work harder than in the earlier days.in the past,affiliate programs were very promising.but its too much competitive now.auctions were also very attractive at some point of time.not to mention the doubler/matrix industry too. but now a days,i prefer business and trading above these money games. you need multiple streams of income than a sinlge way alone to survive in the internet,because things are changing too fast in the world of net. btw,i prefer to work online than in the off line world.
jcfreedom
May 19 2006, 10:46 AM
QUOTE(geoseban @ May 19 2006, 01:28 PM) [snapback]2142680[/snapback]
i like to be with the computer as much as possible,may be 18 hours a day. internet is the next big thing in our way like automotives in the past.if you are into it,money is still there,but need to work harder than in the earlier days.in the past,affiliate programs were very promising.but its too much competitive now.auctions were also very attractive at some point of time.not to mention the doubler/matrix industry too. but now a days,i prefer business and trading above these money games. you need multiple streams of income than a sinlge way alone to survive in the internet,because things are changing too fast in the world of net. btw,i prefer to work online than in the off line world.
I agree. The one promising trend with the internet is it's still evolving
TheMobileHookup
May 19 2006, 03:22 PM
QUOTE(Netty @ May 19 2006, 11:44 AM) [snapback]2141804[/snapback]
And I also am a lot aware of disadvantages of online life
There's a disadvantage? Really? I haven't found one yet
geoseban
May 19 2006, 03:35 PM
QUOTE(TheMobileHookup @ May 20 2006, 05:52 AM) [snapback]2144052[/snapback]
There's a disadvantage? Really? I haven't found one yet
may be because you need a computer and net connection to stay online
evoweis
May 19 2006, 07:58 PM
Hello Netty and everyone else, I just want to let everyone know my story since i spend so much time on these forums. In July of 05' I decided to quit my retail job after six years to pursue a 'career' in the mortgage business. I was a retail assistant manager making my own schedule making 'decent money' - enough to live on but nothing to cry about. I thought that I could do well in the mortgage business - boy was I wrong. Six months into it, I realized that it wasn't for me. I ended up borrowing money from my credit cards to survive. And that's where I am now, over $30,000 in debt. But I do not regret quitting my retail job because for me it was a dead end. The decision I made was to give myself freetime to do what ever I wanted at anytime. I am also taking classes to finish my degree but I do not know when I can finish because of the money situation. I first found out about the HYIP/Surf thing from a spam posting on Craigslist back in January. I made it a New Year's resolution to find ways to escape my situation. I put $2000 into 12DP. You guys all know how that went. Fortunately I was able to sucessfully get a second reversal done form my Credit Card company. But only to lose it all back in Stormy Surf shares. It has been a difficult time for me but I am not giving up. Scam after scam after scam hasn't deterred me yet. I can not see myself going back into the regular work force. I am going to college to pursue my B.S in Finance, paying for it from credit cards. Am I happy? Do I regret my decisions? Absolutely not. This is definitely a risk I am taking by participating in these 'games' but for me it is the reward/risk factor that is more important. I have put the last of my money into various games, hoping for the best. But it all fails, well, I've been through worse before. It does not necessarily mean the end but at least I know I took the risk at my own free will. I wish everyone else well and the best of luck. As for me well who knows....maybe another scam will make me realize that all this is a dream.
Netty
May 21 2006, 12:59 AM
thanksevoweis for sharing your story with us... I really deeply hope you manage to make nice income from AS sites to pull you out of your situation.. well for now I am not thinking to leave my job, as I managed to make some really nice steps... but on longer term online investing seems very attractive to me
TheMobileHookup
May 21 2006, 03:20 AM
Don't leave the job until you have at least 6 months of reserve cash to even attempt to do the online thing. And depending on your job, that may or may not even be enough.
Aqua Marine
May 21 2006, 03:22 AM
yep i can vouch for that i was ok and then after 2 months of not working things crashed round me and now im struggling lol
Netty
May 21 2006, 03:42 AM
QUOTE(TheMobileHookup @ May 21 2006, 01:20 PM) [snapback]2153265[/snapback]
Don't leave the job until you have at least 6 months of reserve cash to even attempt to do the online thing. And depending on your job, that may or may not even be enough.
yep, am aware of it ... well right now I have excelent job also with very good earnings, so will definately not leave it... I can put asside already now amount to start serious online earning... but before I get enough knowledge into it, I do not see it wise to go in it, thats why I also will not put too much on my e-gold... first more knowledge and experiences... then I will put more in
for now I will play with pennies that left from my first bigger investment of my money, which I of course lost LOL
QUOTE(Aqua Marine @ May 21 2006, 01:22 PM) [snapback]2153273[/snapback]
yep i can vouch for that i was ok and then after 2 months of not working things crashed round me and now im struggling lol
Dont worry Aqua.. I know our times will come and we will start to win..
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