I noticed that there are some people who are spreading rumors that are obviously false, so i'd like to put those rumors to rest now.

#1 - We have never partnered with any other forum including GPF, TG, etc.
#2 - We have never accepted any amount of money to boost the popularity of a program (even though we have been offered many thousands of dollars)
#3 - We do not endorse any programs that people post on MMG.
#4 - We do not endorse any programs that people advertise on MMG via the advertisement page.
#5 - We do not make special deals with scammers or anyone else.
#6 - We do not ban people for no reason. If someone was banned from here, they are either a troublemaker with no regard for our rules, they have multiple accounts, or they are a scammer.
#7 - There are no conspiracies going on at MMG. We would never risk our reputation by making dishonest deals with people, and we would never treat anyone or any program in a special way.
#8 - The ratio of scammers to regular members on MMG is no more than any other forum. The only difference is that MMG has much more traffic than most other forums and hyip sites, so natually there will be more of each type of person here.
#9 - MMG is not here so that the mod team can "get rich" off of the advertising. As many of our original members know, we did not even have ads on MMG until probably a year after MMG started. Accepting payments for advertising became required once MMG started growing much larger, and I started having to pay hundreds, then thousands of dollars per month for hosting.
#10 - No HYIPs, Autosurfs, or any other programs are run by me or any of the MMG staff.
#11 - Just because someone has a lot of posts or has been an MMG member for a while does NOT make them "senior" or "veteran" or "trusted" members. I don't know why people started using this term so loosely to describe people, but it's dangerous to put your trust in anyone based on their post count or length of time as an MMG member.

That's all I can think of for now, but I will probably add more later.

Yep I agree with Jason, I have been here forever.

Thanks Jason. One good thing about having to put rumors to rest is that it means people are talking about you. The only time people try to spread rumors and attack something is when they upset or are running scared, and since the MMG is the best I think there are a lot of others who are upset or scared.

I saw from the advertising page that MMG doesn't accept advertising from other similar forum, isn't that just selfish of you since everyone knows that the market is too big for one site to not share? Plus that might also be the reason why others are spreading those so-called rumours.

Just my 1 cent.

Do you see Ford allowing Chevy to advertise on thier website? Thats a pretty dumb thing to allow. Do you see a MMG banner at TALKGOLD? Like seriously...

Very well put Kenny...

It is amazing that you MMG admins/mods can put up with so much. I hope at this point you are making some profits from the ads. BTW how big is your hosting cluster?

Well you don't see Google giving you such information. Do they?

Anyway great explanation there and you're just as honest

This has to be the most [edit][/edit] thing I have read today.

Its amazing that you even have to put the rumors to rest, if people dont like this forum ...why dont they just find a better one...somewhere.....somehow..

I never knew they existed but anyway.. thnx for the points stated.

Other forums exist? Really?


I think the server question is answered in this section somewhere...pretty expensive to run this forum these days, we might have to kick half of you members out

hmmm I also never knew that there are some rummors going on..

well I have been member of other forums, and didn`t liked them (particulary one of them was on such a primitive level, that I was shocked they allow people to write such things), so now, I settled myself on MMG, and I just like this forum very much.
It is very professional, very informative and objective.

Like we say... "There is always dust behind a good horse!"


just keep on excelent work!

There are MMG banners at getpaidforum

But that is probably because the new owner paid a lot of money for it and is now after every cent he can get. That turned out to be not so good investment for him.

there always be someone who wants to spoil good atmosphere here

I don't mind them cause I know it is the best forum on the net ( not only

concerning money )

I fully trust MMG administration

Luke

While your point of view does have certain merits, it is a very common policy in almost any business to not allow competitors to advertise on your websites, publications, or buildings. We really want to provide everyone with the best information possible, but at the same time we would like to protect our market share.

In my opinion, we have been extremely lenient about allowing users to post links to other forums, as we realize MMG cannot be all things to all people and that other forums may offer specific information not found on MMG. We are in dialogue with the owner of the second largest forum, and both sides have done their best to diffuse any tension between members, and not attempt to steal each others members. There is room for more than one forum, and we feel our efforts would be best spent on growing our forums through outside sources, rather than trying to snipe members back and forth.

We have, in the past, blocked a couple of forum URL's from being posted, as they were either 1) blatent ripoff's that coppied our format word-for-word, or 2) Unethical spammers whose only goal was to steal members from MMG. This behavior by these forum administrators is not only unethical, but it is a slap in the face to all of us, and that will never be welcome here.

MMG's member base is extremely valuable, and we will do what we can, within reason, to keep these people as members. In a business sense, if we were to allow competing forums to advertise, they would need to pay a MUCH higher price, as the value of the targeted advertising would be incredibly high, and it could possibly cause harm to the forum. There are billions of people that haven't heard of Money making programs, at the very minimum, I'm sure millions of them would be at least slightly interested, so it is not as if we are trying to monopolize the "market" by trying to retain our 45k members.

Additionally, keep in mind, the more money MMG makes, the more we have available to advertise and provide people with better services. For all of the above reasons, we have simply decided to not allow these advertisements, as we feel it is best for MMG and its members.

I am 100% sure with the statements above
Seriously i wonder who will even trust the people spreading the rumours. I guess we banned too many scammers and spammers

This may be way off base, and I'm sure someone will slap me if it is but, why don't MMG launch a program. Say a non HYIP investment program. I'm sure there is enough expertise around. A good solid long tem sustainable program that could generate long term profits for members and make money for MMG in the process. Think how many people would join.

End of MMG if that happens since people will blame MMG when the program dies or whatever. Simple enough answer?

or the SEC shuts us down for not being properly licensed

and loosing integrity

Very good ASFx, keeping MMG safe from false rumors. We are a pretty good forum!
Good day!

Because none of those programs will last forever. Even if they managed to keep it open for over a year (which is almost unheard of).. it will eventually come to an end and that means that someone would have lost money. And those few that did would scream scam (because 80% of the people that participate in those things don't know the difference).

Ok it was thrown in there, but why would it fail ? I'm talking about MMG getting authorised and putting a program together with modest returns, no guarantees, putting reserves aside in the good times to offset the bad times. I'm sure there's enough expertise around to pull in some decent trading results. I'm fairly new here, but from what I can see there appears to be a lot of decent people here, with a lot of knowledge that could work very well. Any way it was just a thought.

Nothing is perfect. If there was a perfect program that would last forever, we'd all be in it.
Why risk the wholee forum for the sake of one program...
Just isn't logical if you ask me but that's just my opinion.

keep reading. i am sure there is at least something just as [edit][/edit] if not more [edit][/edit] out there.

I think we are getting a little off topic here. I think the bottom line is, MMG will not go into collecting people's money and promised some kind of returns. Dont worry, there are still many programs out there everyday.

Very well put, however, when the MMG staff have programs in their sigs it could very easily be taken to be an endorsement. I will use sorcex as an example. I do not recall which mod(s) featured this program in his/her sig but the fact that they did feature it certainly appeared to be an endorsement from MMG as a whole rather than the mod as an individual.

Although you state that MMG does not endorse any program you should also take extra care to not appear to endorse any program aswell. Your mods have a responsibilty to not only uphold the rules of the forum but also to maintain the image of the board aswell.

With regards to MMG being a haven for scammers, well that is unfortunately a problem with any forum of this nature, scammers are everywhere on the net, and when you have the shear volume of potential investors in one place, scammers will be drawn here. It is everyone's responsibilty to look out for each other and there are also enough honest members around aswell. I dont think its fair that MMG are blamed for this.

Is this one still paying?














sorry guys, couldn`t resist

I wish you will earn millions of advertising and be more responsible.
by responsibility I mean, get some experts for the best DD research.

There are too many scams here!!!

Not your scams, but scam hosted in your site.

If someone has a banner then it's a program they're in. How is that endorsement?
I don't recall who had Sorcex but don't members have banners?
Mods aren't always right you know. Don't get paid to have banners or anything so that would throw out "endorsement".
Mods are people too


No scams are hosted here. Please don't spread false information.

WHAT ABOUT showforum=13 ?

Closed & Scam Programs Archive
All programs that closed down OR ended up being a scam are here:
http://www.moneymakergroup.com/index.php?showforum=13
Basically, all dead threads go here. Not everything in this section is a scam.


THE IMPORTANT PART:

this is full provoking statement... and if you read it once again, you will see for yourself it is completly nonsense

First of all, this scamms are not HERE, but they are on net, and here are just posted links, for what members have right to post links...democracy remeber?
Second of all... Everyone on his/her own should do DD and not have one admins on forum to pamper them and even bring them money to bank, to make it really sure they will not loose it on way

DD = due diligence

Research; analysis; your homework. This term has caught on in all industries,
because it sounds so "wired."

Who would want to do analysis or research when they can do DD (due diligence".


NOT EVERYONE CAN DO due diligence

Only those who have the ability to research deep, and DD is expensive.

Are you saying this serious, or just having a bit fun here?

As I said, no scam is HOSTED here.

I agree, people confuse that alot here. If the program is over which is typical of some ponzi's then they are moved to the appropriate section of the forum. Noobs get confused when they lose cuz they don't understand how this game is played. I was the same way and got warned for unacceptable posts when I thought I was scammed. However I have changed my ways since then and I understand that these are money games and should be expected to learn and play by the rules eloquently or somethin. lol

Ironic that this thread was put here to end rumors and someone is trying to start more.

he full came with purpose to provoke and is probably some spy from other forums

Just do a search of his previous posts and program. There are not many posts, but it is interesting.

I haven't heard of any of these rumors.

lol I did it... eh well... how boring... even this spammers and scammers have no any fantasy anymore and use old tricks lol

Very Goooooooooooood to add this feature here !!
I was thinking a lot of autosurfs produced by MMG !!

Ok, I am confused now. The MMG doesn't produce any autosurfs. Members only start threads announcing the progams.

well, admin is involve in some business other than MMG.

what about PaymentsZ, a payment processor owned by one of the admins and one very vocal member of the forum.


or... PaymentsZ are only Rumors

What is wrong with Admin starting their own programs. No one is forcing you to use it. Besides if they do start their own, then that is the one program they would promote. If it fails, then it fails and that particular person would have to deal with the consequences.

Besides, that is one program though and does not mean that the MMG forum is at fault or should be blamed. It also does not mean that all the admin team would endorse another admins program. It is still up to each individual member to take responsibility for getting involved in a program, and not blame it on anyone else.

hmmm... when I read your posts I just can not get rid of feeling you have quite some accounts open on MMG

Does make you wonder. There are 51 posts since joining 2 days ago and the majority of them are cheeleading posts in HYIP programs.

BTW, nice new picture in your avatar Netty.

thanks.. thought some change would do good..a nd since I am most of time in laughing mode this one fit better


yes I also think this is pure jealousy and provoking from this guys... even is not worth to bothered with them... I even have feeling this might be from one and the same nest, if you know what I mean?

Keep in mind that paymentz is not a "program", it is a payment processor which is completely seperate from MMG, and is not affiliated with MMG. I am the owner of MMG, and the other admins and moderators are part of the staff. Whatever business they choose to run on the side is their decision, and just because one of the MMG staff may decide to start a side business does not mean it is supported or endorsed by me or by MMG.

I was thinking that they were the same as well. Seems delta moneytalk4profit mentions Nick Pola in a way that they know each other well, and both happened to join the same day. Hmmmmmm. May be a coincidence but you never know.

Anyway change is good and you have a nice smile when you are in laughing mode.