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chinbiz
Hello,

I am having trouble funding online bookie or gambling site
from sg, I am using mastercard and it is block by the bank
from funding a gambling site.

Anybody knows of any cards from sg that is
not block for funding gambling site?

Thanks
hyippo
use neteller lor, most of those sites use neteller as their payment option smile.gif
konohabros
are you in RFP?chinbiz
hyippo
hope everyone gets a risk-free windfall during world cup smile.gif
konohabros
haha,world cup....hope there will be lots of sport arbs up and running clapping7.gif
chinbiz
Ya, konohabros, i am in rfp

I have an account with neteller but i
can't fund it using mastercard, they accept
only visa. I am thinking of applying for a visa
card and I do not want a card that is block
from gambling site, so if anyone knows
which bank credit card is not block for funding
gambling site or neteller from sg, please let me
know.

Thanks
hyippo
you can buy neteller from me if in bulk, i can make special arrangement for ya smile.gif
behsai
You can also use MB, many bookmakers use MB as well... biggrin.gif
Its nice to see people doing arbt trade hehe

If not for SP, Im doing that as well
hyippo
hope you recover from SP's disaster soon biggrin.gif
afdah
i think u should apply for visa. i fund moneybookers through mastercard. but when i use moneybookers to fund those online bookmakers, i got this error that my mastercard funded moneybookers cannot be use to fund those online bookmakers.
hyippo
use neteller easier mah, buy from local exchangers, no fees and it's immediate smile.gif
salted_veg
Forget about applying Visa to fund Neteller.
I tried using Visa to fund Neteller yesterday and it is also being rejected.
So I am just with Moneybooker now. Use eNets to fund if you are in Singapore. Cheaper fee than using credit card.

For Neteller, need to have account verified if you want to buy from fellow members. (Both the transfer and transfee have to have verified Neteller account).

chinbiz
hi, can elaborate on eNets?
what is it and how to use it...?
Thanks
hyippo
any idea what is needed to get a verified neteller account?
salted_veg
QUOTE(chinbiz @ Mar 5 2006, 01:13 PM) [snapback]1438214[/snapback]

hi, can elaborate on eNets?
what is it and how to use it...?
Thanks

eNets is one of the deposit option in MoneyBookers for Singaporean. It debits directly from bank account thru Internet Banking. Rate is lower than credit card funding. I just deposited into MB using this method yesterday, through my DBS iBanking.
You can find all the information from MoneyBooker website on fund deposit options.


QUOTE(hyippo @ Mar 5 2006, 01:23 PM) [snapback]1438307[/snapback]

any idea what is needed to get a verified neteller account?

Open a Netelle account and then send in a copy of
1. IC or driving license
2. Utility bill showing name and address or front & back of credit card if funding by credit card
hyippo
thanks for the info! smile.gif i will go and get one for myself soon.
chinbiz
hi,
thanks, will get my neteller account certified
any links for moneybrokers to look at eNets cards?

Thanks
RichieHighway
eNETS is a convenient and cheaper method for sgrean to fund moneybookers. As long as you have access to internet banking, you have access to eNETS. Under 'upload fund' in your moneybooker account, you will be given 3 payment options - Bank Transfer, Credit Card and eNETS

Any idea who are the local moneybookers and Neteller exchanger?
hyippo
If the demand for Neteller is high, i can get SnapGold to offer instant funding for neteller without fees smile.gif
Suffolk
If I'm not wrong, eNets for MB and wire transfer for Neteller is the cheapest methods to fund them.
Gamble_life
what about fund by debit card ? did they accept? dry.gif
hyippo
QUOTE(Suffolk @ Mar 5 2006, 06:50 PM) [snapback]1440661[/snapback]

If I'm not wrong, eNets for MB and wire transfer for Neteller is the cheapest methods to fund them.


those are the official ways, you will still incur lousy exchange rates and some fees i think.
chinbiz
I would like to try using eNets to fund
Ladbrokes. Guess a card is needed?
How this eNets works?

Thanks
RichieHighway
QUOTE(chinbiz @ Mar 5 2006, 08:46 PM) [snapback]1441701[/snapback]

I would like to try using eNets to fund
Ladbrokes. Guess a card is needed?
How this eNets works?

Thanks


You don't need a card to upload fund to moneybookers. All you need is the access to internet banking.

Click on "upload fund" at the top menu of your moneybookers account, you will be given 3 options to fund your moneybookers account mainly: Bank Transfer, Credit Card and eNETS.

Click on eNETS and you will be asked to enter the amount you wish to upload. After that, you will be brought to eNETS secured site to log in to your online banking account and transfer.
kelvin888
QUOTE(behsai @ Mar 4 2006, 10:20 PM) [snapback]1430132[/snapback]

You can also use MB, many bookmakers use MB as well... biggrin.gif
Its nice to see people doing arbt trade hehe

If not for SP, Im doing that as well


yeah, MB is one of the top choices for bookies hehe smile.gif
alexeow
For your information, you can't use Mastercard for gambling purpose. This rule applied for all country world wide. Only Visa credit card can be used for gambling purpose.
hyippo
MB more popular than neteller?
RichieHighway
QUOTE(hyippo @ Mar 5 2006, 11:12 PM) [snapback]1443361[/snapback]

MB more popular than neteller?


Yes because you don't need to have a debit/credit card to make a deposit. Therefore it is very popular among gambling youngster below the age of 18 who don't qualified for it.

I used to have Neteller account 8 yrs back. The verification was a hassle. I gave up halfway throught the process. However, I might reconsider it if I ever want to get into arbitrage trading. wink.gif
hyippo
MB got fees to deposit/withdraw?
RichieHighway
QUOTE(hyippo @ Mar 5 2006, 11:32 PM) [snapback]1443582[/snapback]

MB got fees to deposit/withdraw?


Deposit: 1.5% to upload from Internet banking

Withdrawal: Flat fee of 1.80 pound for bank transfer + $10 fee deducted for the service by Singapore bank.


sunai
QUOTE(hyippo @ Mar 5 2006, 07:32 AM) [snapback]1443582[/snapback]

MB got fees to deposit/withdraw?

its quite cheap. I use MB to play poker and earn quite alot this month biggrin.gif
hyippo
withdrawal quite cheap, but funding 1.5% is still a little ex.
salted_veg
What is 1.5% if you are profiting that much like sunai.. tongue4.gif tongue4.gif tongue4.gif
sunai
QUOTE(hyippo @ Mar 5 2006, 07:11 PM) [snapback]1450340[/snapback]

withdrawal quite cheap, but funding 1.5% is still a little ex.

Hi HYIPPO,
i had some big and smooth Egold trading with your site last time. I wonder whether u will provide Moneybooker Exchange in the future for those who want to play Poker like me dance9bh.gif
Suffolk
QUOTE(hyippo @ Mar 5 2006, 07:59 PM) [snapback]1441282[/snapback]

those are the official ways, you will still incur lousy exchange rates and some fees i think.


For Neteller funding, they'll absorb all the fees at their receiving side. We'll only need to pay for the wire transfer fee of around 20sgd to our local bank. Verification for Neteller is less than 48 hours once you send in your id and other necessary documents. They will send an email asking you to call them and they would call you back to verify your identity once again. For withdrawal, apply for their global debit card when your account is verified, it is completely free of charge and would reach you in less than 2 weeks.
There are no maximum limit to funding your Neteller using wire transfer but there is a certain limit imposed using credit card.

For MB funding, Singapore is in their list of local supported payment methods, the easiest way is to use eNets via Internet banking for small amount and wire transfer for huge amount because 1.5% is much expensive than fees of 20sgd charged by local bank for wire transfer. Verification is also needed for MB's account. For withdrawal, use eNets with charge of 1.5% or VISA at 3.60sgd.

Both MB and Neteller are registered with the Financial Services Authority in the United Kingdom and they observed strict rules on money funding and withdrawing. Especially funding from bank wire, your bank's account name MUST match the one in your e-currency account otherwise they would send the funds back to you (no third party funding).

As in the bookies list available in SBP, more bookies used Neteller than MB. It would be a wise decision to spread our online funds.

Having said all that, it would still be good if local exchangers like SnapGold could provide services to customers of Neteller and MB. Cheers.
RichieHighway
Thanks Suffolk. That made Neteller a better choice in my opinion becasue they offer FREE debit card.
Suffolk
QUOTE(RichieHighway @ Mar 6 2006, 06:43 PM) [snapback]1454259[/snapback]

Thanks Suffolk. That made Neteller a better choice in my opinion becasue they offer FREE debit card.


If you want, you have to do it quick cos the mention of FREE debit cards, I dunno how many people are going to apply for it. I heard from someone in the RFP's thread that Neteller used to charge 5.xxusd so get it while it's still free.
chinbiz
Hi all,

I finally get to fund ladbrokes by using eNets!

Trying to get certification from Neteller. If funding
to Neteller is not a hassle; maybe using it for arbs
trading later.

It's great getting to knows the various ways of funding
a gaming site.

BTW, what about the withdrawal of our winnings or
earning back to sg.

Thanks!
ilostcash
how is enets working out, i usually use ebullion exchange
Suffolk
QUOTE(chinbiz @ Mar 6 2006, 08:00 PM) [snapback]1454894[/snapback]

Hi all,

I finally get to fund ladbrokes by using eNets!

Trying to get certification from Neteller. If funding
to Neteller is not a hassle; maybe using it for arbs
trading later.

It's great getting to knows the various ways of funding
a gaming site.

BTW, what about the withdrawal of our winnings or
earning back to sg.

Thanks!


Using debit card for Neteller withdrawal and eNets for MB, since earnings are route via 3rd party payment processors, it should not raise any red flags.
RichieHighway
QUOTE(chinbiz @ Mar 6 2006, 08:00 PM) [snapback]1454894[/snapback]

BTW, what about the withdrawal of our winnings or
earning back to sg.


For Neteller, Suffolk has explained in his previous post. Debit Card is the best choice here.

For Moneybookers, best option is Bank Transfer.

Of course, would love to see local exchanger getting these 2 involved. wink.gif
salted_veg
Neteller Debit Card is free... but what about the charges when trying to do a withdrawal?
Have came across other debit cards which are free but there are charges to fund the card from the account, then got charges to do withdrawal, charges for this, chareges for that... until to withdrawal, the fee are very high.
Suffolk
QUOTE(salted_veg @ Mar 6 2006, 10:52 PM) [snapback]1457068[/snapback]

Neteller Debit Card is free... but what about the charges when trying to do a withdrawal?
Have came across other debit cards which are free but there are charges to fund the card from the account, then got charges to do withdrawal, charges for this, chareges for that... until to withdrawal, the fee are very high.


Hi, you might want to look into this URL for more information about the charges, the debit card that we receive falls under Blue International: https://www.neteller.com/learn/usingNetellerAtmCard.jsf

Charges are a bit steep if you start with with a few thousands for doing arb trading. You might want to consider building up your accounts to a very comfortable level before doing cash withdrawal from Neteller and MB.
chinbiz
Hi,

This is for my 'eNets' transaction done:-
I have checked my bank account and there is
no fees being added to the amount I transfer
to gaming site and at the gaming site there is
no deduction of the amount. It is a smooth
transaction...!

I will check at the gaming site which option
they have for withdrawal.

I gather from here that one can use Neteller,
bank-wire transfer and moneybrikers but there
will be alot of transfer fees involve.

How much of the fees that one have to pay then
it is consider acceptable?? These fees would be
eating into our profits or earnings.

Thanks

hyippo
are you saying that there is no fees to fund via eNets? what's the exchange rates? sometimes they don't charge fees but earn from exchange rates.
chinbiz
Hi,

There is no fees shown in the transaction records.
What I transfer over to ladbrokes is in sing$, so no
exchange rates involve.

Thanks
hyippo
that's cool smile.gif let us know if there is any fee when you withdraw smile.gif
salted_veg
QUOTE(chinbiz @ Mar 7 2006, 07:08 PM) [snapback]1469508[/snapback]

Hi,

There is no fees shown in the transaction records.
What I transfer over to ladbrokes is in sing$, so no
exchange rates involve.

Thanks

What chinbiz has done is that he funded his LadBrokes account directly using eNets, and according to LadBrokes there is no fee involved. However, LadBrokes is the only bookmarkers I came across so far that accept eNets as a deposit option.

For me, I funded my MoneyBooker accounts using eNets (1.5% fee) and then from MoneyBooker deposited into each of my bookmakers (none of them accept eNets as a deposit option). Take note that for some bookmakers, there will give you instruction on how to fund into their account by sending a spent from MoneyBooker. This will incurred a 1% charge. For other bookmarkers, they have deposit link which re-direct to the MoneyBooker site. This way, no extra fee is charged.

micromouse
wan to sell Moneybooker currency... if wan to buy, pls PM me... All e charge i will take...
e rate is @ 1.64... deal by internet bank transfer...
chinbiz
salted_veg explain very well for
how i fund ladbrokes.
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