hi,

Maybe some of you know me. My name is tysin and I'm from europe, but born in Canada.

I've been here for a few months and seen hyips, and I made a good profit off of these and Autosurfs. Like everyone else I was badly hit by the recent Stormpay happenings ( I don't know whos fault it is yet, everyone seems to have mixed opinions).

Since these happenings we have seen autosurfs and hyips coming and going, and basically can trust no one. I've just seen an hyip open that states it has ssl security and the admin said that she/he is honest and won't run, when the https:// link doesn't even work, lets wait and see if that one will still be around in a few days.....

I've always talked about opening an hyip since p4i2 was getting into gear but never saw the need since there were so many good ones out there, another one would just divide deposits into another hyip cutting the life of the other hyips. And also there were honest admins mostly those that used stormpay. Now we reverted back to e-gold and scams-r-us are back in the hyip & autosurf industry.

I have also been seeing experienced mmg members opening hyips offering explosive instant profits and never lasting more than a week cause its too much.

I want to make an hyip that offers a feasable plan along with the best members out there, but this is what every admin would want right. I can just say that I'll try to research and give the best possibility for this. I also want my hyip to be something "made" by members since they are the ones depositing & investing in it. So that is the reason for me opening this post to see what a potential member would like to see in the hyip.

I will tell you now that I am not going to offer a bombastic returns of 150% in a day, there will be no plans like this. I want to offer something that would be long term and that is why im going to reverse the plan strategy where small deposits get the most % and as deposits gets larger, % will decrease. I know you are saying "Wtf?" but look at it this way those depositing large amounts will still get alot of profit so it would be better on the total deposit against the withdrawn total to offer a less % but still making a high profit. Let me give you an example:

$1-100 get 150% after 5 days
$101 - $501 get 140% after 5 days
$501 - $2000 get 130 % after 5 days

in the 150% the max that can be made in 5 days is $150 ($50 profit), in the 140% max can be $700 ($200 profit) and in the 130% $2600 ($600 profit).

(NOTE THESE ARE NOT ACTUAL PLANS, just an example)

This trend that the highest deposit gets most percentage is just a marketing trick to make people deposit higher amounts, but then this backfires and they will have to pay alot of extra intrest to high deposits that already have to be paid high amounts even if they all had the same % let alone higher %. I'd rather have a program that will last a month and not have so much money in it but be honest and paying or than a week or two paying thousands in profits and closing....

I know alot of you want proof of where i live but for safety reasons i cant give that, because imagine the worst comes to worst and the program closes and someone loses alot of $$$ and decides to come to give me a visit or endlessly calls me. I'm sorry but even after endless warnings on every single page you still find those crazy psycos who can't get it into their heads that there is a risk involved with all these, and can't accept the loss. I'm not saying it will happen but I'm trying to take every caution towards anything bad that can happen from what I have seen in previous hyips.

I don't know a date to open it up but I want to be sure everything is set and working and it will be one hell of an hyip before i open it, even if it takes months (which hopefully it won't) I will wait as long as is needed.

So you can start giving me your suggestions and I'll compare them to what I had in mind.....

Thanks very much for your help

tysin

1. proper hosting/server to start . none of this low end hosting then be down few days to change servers or hosts.

2. plans need to be less than 5% per day . anything more will never last , may last a month then toast.

3. maintain a proper payout schedule . whatever it is, just stick to it . tired of admins saying "sorry just got home from work was too tired to pay attention to you."

4. use only payment processors that are HYIP friendly . no more "sorry account just got frozen . no my fault"

sorry if i sounded rude, just plain tired of the dishonest admins out there. trust you will be different

1. i was thinking a dedicated server on godaddy.com, they are really popular.

2. I'll work on that thanks for your help

3. indeed, i'll be spending over 12 hours a day on the hyip, with my own programmer with me.

4. i was thinking the exact thing, I dont want any pp that can freeze my account cause you find these naysayers that report you for no reason.

you were not rude, i'm very happy that someone responded.

Thanks

Please accept Paypal

that's a no, sorry.

hi tysin how r u???

preferred-hosting is a good host with dedicated server

i wish u good luck in your hyip

Hopefully you can create one new long lasting one. If you need help with support, you can always contact me. I'm thinking of opening one long-term one too.

thank you

the word just needs to get out.... unfortunately I can't post this topic on the hyip section....

from me also good luck

and tell me, when you'll start it

Bye Mel

PS


I trust you fully....

and I will be in 4 sure

thanks for your support

You might also look into partnering with some of the other longer lasting autosurfs...DadNDaves have weathered the latest storm and seem to have integrity.


Oh yea, might also look at the new kids on the block that have done a lot of leg work. Check their forums for what they have done with legal issues, due dilligence, etc. before start up...i.e. Phoenixsurf

but its an hyip not an autosurf... for now.... who knows maybe ill make it into an autosurf....

Hi Tysin,

Well.. you have my FULL support. The same way I'm promoting "racers" game at the moment I'm writing this, because the Admin is one of the most honest guys I have ever met on the internet, I trust you the same way. I can't wait to start seeing GOOD HYIPs again. Lets get back to the OLD times...!!!

Concerning ideas, well, they were told here already. Also talk with old and trusted MMG members to help you promoting your program and find a experienced/trusted FOREX trader (if you're not one). Whatever you make, make it with HONESTY in mind and it will succeed. 99.99% of people want to make fast money ($MILLIONS) and say good bye when the time comes. I would prefer a long term HYIP that pays for months to come (years who know), really investing the money, instead of pure ponzi. We know that the pure ponzi scheme like P4I2 can make alot of money for all of us, but can also HURT us deep. So, go for a long term one with sustainable rates and you'll see that in the long term this will benefit you more in all aspects.


Good luck and please PM me when its ready,

CC

i just got a good idea. Something that should provide a partly fast get rich quick and a long term program, but all in all with this idea I think I can manage to pay everyone from member 1 to the last one.... if not profit atleast a full refund of what he/she has put in down to the last cent....

this is the way good hyips should be!!!!

this is very exciting

stay tuned

I would love to join , please PM me when you're set to start.

indeed i will, there will obviously be a pre-launch


till now I'm gonna have these for sure:

Dedicated server
DDOS PROTECTION
SSL
24/7 Site uptime monitoring
Daily backup (looking to increase it to 3 backups a day)
Almost guaranteed money back plan (more details soon)
Msn Chat

I'm working on:

Feasable plans (no bogus 120% after 1 day plans)
Conference Room
Forex Trader
Daily Security Scan
Looking into processors other than e-gold

I'll update you on anything new or new ideas I have soon


tysin

tysins doing a lot of work to get this HYIP up and to make it the best. I will be investing in it when it comes out

It sounds very good so far! Especially the part about refunding those not in profit to their last cent. Regarding one of your suggesting regarding payouts -
$1-100 get 150% after 5 days
$101 - $501 get 140% after 5 days
$501 - $2000 get 130 % after 5 days

What I think would end up happening is that a person wanting to invest $2000 would just make 20 $100 spends for the extra 20%.

Good feedback I've been reading! I hope to join when you're ready!

looks good hope u will get success here.

Absolutely!

I second you on that!


Cheers,
CC

thought of that beforehand, and I'll try to modify the script so that extra deposits will be added to previous ones
give me some chance on that or else i'll put one spend a day on each plan....
I'll look into it more but that's just a rough idea. I'll explore my choices... and what my programmer is able to do...

good luck and i'll keep an eye out for it.

me too, good luck @tysin, you have my support

Count me in, in your program Tysin.

when it will be near to open a send me PM please

Two-cents worth from hyiper.org

1. Minimize referal payments. I know that isn't popular, but I have noticed that the most stable hyips offer very low referals, 5% or less

2. Don't allow upgrade from earnings (compounding) All payouts have to be compleated in toto before upgrading. Again, not popular but it keeps the pool clean.

3. Only use a licensed script. Go so far as to invest in a top coder from somewhere like coder.com to sift the script for exploits. Of course "encrypted" scripts make this impossible. You may consider AJ or somthing similar.

4. Pay attention to gold prices. If there is a large movement up in the price of AU on the globel mrkt, take those profits for a reserve fund (seperate egold acct)

5. Consider a set payout period. Make that time frame VERY clear in the TOS, use a double opt in on sign up so there is no excuse, ie, "I didn't know you only did payouts during such and such a time. Having a set period daily for payouts, minimizes your work load.

6. After the 50k mark, consider finding a real Fx trader. Managed forex accounts require a large cap spend but a good firm can make 5-7% daily (of course they can also lose)

7. Once your plan growth slows, a normal part of the biz cycle, consider lowering rates and going private. Of course this brings a whole new batch of considerations

Probably some more floating my brain...but they elude me for now

Good Luck, and I hope you'll consider listing with me! At least PM me when you're ready to roll

I can't accept money in my paypal account, only send money....... so its a no for paypal sorry




Referral commission will be around 2% on first upgrade only and it will be put in a plan automatically, i.e. can't be withdraw immediately.

As for payments, I will put a time limit guaranteed, and if a member does not recieve payout in that given time I will give 1% bonus for late payment.

I'm looking for a forex trader too but its kind of hard trusting someone you barely know.... you understand?

and also a big opening hopefully....

thanks for your suggestions


tysin

Dedicated server - it`s good move

Who wants to exchange e-gold ? I got paypal and i need e-gold to invest on this hyip

I love your concept, Tysin, very refreshing especially after these two dark months in the world of Hyips... I'm looking forward to it!

Well, more developments :

Domain name, Dedicated Server & DDOS Protection are Bought.

HYIP NAME: Fair Play Investing (www.fairplayinvesting.com)

Hopefully later tonight I'll be uploading a parked page once the dedicated server is up, where you can submit your email and I'll notify you instantly once the hyip is open or about any news prior to the launching of the hyip


Something different I feel I am doing with this hyip that most of the others don't do is actually planning it well before it is opened.

I decided only to use E-gold as a processor since I will be investing part of the money and it will be a big strain to change currency if I had other processors, apart from the fees and % they would suck up.

I'm off to meet my programmer to talk about the script. I'll keep you all informed of anything new that happens.

Thanks for all your support and lets hope we can make this big.

Yeah I play hyips...I understand

I think by the fact that you are thinking your program out shows that it will probably be pretty good. I honestly don't think that happens very often, so KUDOS!

So guys just met the programmer.

Everything looks good.

As for the plans I thought of it this way, taking the plans used before :

$1-100 get 150% after 5 days
$101 - $501 get 140% after 5 days
$501 - $2000 get 130 % after 5 days

If someone deposits $100, then makes another deposit of $100, the second deposit will be taken as $200 since there is already one deposit of $100, and the second $100 will be put in the 140%... and if then there is a deposit of $400 an hour later, it will be considered as $600 and the $400 will be put in the 130%

But looking at this it would be better to divide a $2000 spend in $100s still (because some of the money gets the other 150% and 140%) then put it as a whole $2000 in the 130% only.

Or else what I thought to do is limit it to 1 spend everyday in each plan...

Or else If someone deposits $100, then makes another deposit 12 hours later of $100, they will be summed up and put in the 140% plan as $200 with the original $100 in the 150% being erased. This seems good but i still need to see if there is a way so that the 1st $100 deposit can keep the same time it was deposited in the first place and not changed to 12 hours later when the second $100 was deposited cause that would lose 12 hours maturity time.... If I can keep the same time I will use this method....

Tell me what you think?

Also, if anyone wants, they can use my banner and re-direct it to this page so we can get the word out on this, so it can make a big boom...

just copy my banner or pm me.

Thanks for all your help

tysin

this one it looks like it's gonna be big from what i see
keep it up Tysin lookin foward to start the program
go go go

I'll dance to this hyip. Way to go tysin, you have built a very reputable and well deserving relationship with hyip investors over the past few months and for that we can never find anyone we can but return favour to and trust with our pockets. To those who dont know you, I comment you to them as a highly respectable sound investor in who's role and leadership we can depend on. There's no better man to manage a hyip that the one who's always been there and done it with all he has and gave it his best shot. Let this project start on a high note as there may never be a need for any test spend. Your plans are well thought of and that is a good sign of a great hyip and admin who wants to stay longer and pay all his members. Good work tysin! We are with you in this!


Ps. I've sent you my e-mail address, keep me posted

Regards
vmrams

The only thing that is important to me is:

1. YOU PAY
2. Dedicated Server
3. On hand Programmer

Wow, thanks for this support.

One thing I want to do is keep trying and never give up in this hyip. There will be no 90% reached and then the program closes. I want to make sure that all those members who deposited will ATLEAST get what they deposited back, if it takes 1 extra week or 1 extra month.... no matter the amount of time. This is the way it should be, and that is the reason for an hyip to have an admin. You can get a child to accept payments and make bogus payouts, but you gotta have balls to come up with a good business plan

thanks
tysin

this is a good hyip and fair play game, small investor got big profits..i've been searching all hyip program but none of them offer fair profits to small investor.

i'm waiting for this hyip to launch, remember do pm me

Hehe goodluck mate, just a tip dont let the hyip get too big because the %'es will play with you at then end keep it to the limit where you can handle it. and dont let a lot of $$ turn you on remember you have to pay all that back + interest

Danny...

Yeah that is my top priority. Once I see it reaching the limit to where I can't handle it anymore, the 100% money back plan will be put in place so no member will lose out.... hopefully if no stormpay situations happen again.

Next week will be an important week. I will keep everyone updated and I want to start getting email addresses so that I can send any news on developments.


Thanks to everyone for thier support. I hope I can change the hyip world and put the words "safety" & "honesty" in the industry again.


Thanks
tysin




well small investors will not get big profits, big investors will get big profits but the plans % have been reversed from the normal hyips we see as I see it more feasable and long term this way...

good to have you on board

will keep you informed sir

thanks
tysin

The server is up and I will put up the parked page tomorrow as I need to go out now there you can leave your email to be instantly informed when the hyip opens.
I'm meeting my programmer early next week around tuesday or wednesday to modify and finalize the script.

I hope all of you are having a good weekend.

Be back tomorrow.

tysin

Hey tysin....

looking forward to it

Let us Know when its ready, it might take a few rounds to get noticed, but im sure it could be huge!

ok tysin we wait for you to give us the go ahead and we start investing in you program,
becuase this one it's going to be big, i like that small investor get big profits
we are all behind you. bring it onnnnnnnnnnnn

thanks for your support karozza!

you are really supporting this big time. With members like you, this could be huge.


Thanks again
tysin

Again Tysin, I'm following the thread... count me in when its ready!

Cheers,
CC

Hey guys,

Go to http://www.fairplayinvesting.com and leave your email there. Once the hyip is open I will inform you all by email.

thanks
tysin

Wow, if only all admins were so dedicated and determined to make their programs successful. I have seen a lot of fly-by-night, first post announced hyips by unprepared and dishonest admins who literally dont know anything about hyips. Tysin is really showing an example of how to start a successful hyip.

I've sent my e-mail and cant wait for this hyip to open, cause I know this one will outlast many. Way to go... If you are willing to make money, wait till this one is up and running.

woow good idea.

Submited my mail now

waiting your program!