spammers or scammers

spammers are quite intelluctual but not scammers.

that's a good one.

That's probably what it is then. I wasnt paying any attention and it didnt seem like an obvious spammer so....

At least i know i aint gettin picked on.

Hmm...with this flood control, I can't post in the font that I like now unless I upgrade my account!

But maybe this does not apply to people who have been here a long time...only people who are new. Once you fit in you don't have to worry about being warned or banned. You can do it right in their face and nothing will be done about it. Yet, if you are new you will have to tippy toe around here wondering constantly if you're doing something wrong. I don't think it's right but hey...it's not my forum either. I'm just a visitor who wants to be a member. All this person said was no...and he purposely broke the rule and one other person. If you had went on to report them, nothing would have been done about it anyway. I see this everywhere by the oldies. Who knows...I may even get a warning for stressing this point. Oh well.

Perhaps it was because you posted the exact same message in a gazillion threads:

"Wow...this looks good so far. will check further. Don't quite understand how this HYIP works."

I'm certain I was not the only one that reported you for building up your post count.

Read and adhere to the rules here and you'll find MMG is a wonderful place to learn and disscuss
online money making ventures.

There's no point in saying things that arent true. We don't care if someone has been here for 2 months of 2 years. If they decide to start causing problems, we arent just going to allow it. Also, this rules was made to stop spammers, not people having normal conversation.

Like Jason said, if you have been here for a long time, we know you arent just out to bump your post count. Look at the members who have been here going on 2 years. You dont get to stay here for 2 years if all you do is cause problems. If they post a 2 or 3 word response, we know it isn't just to bump up post count.

The only people who bother to bump their post counts at all are people who will more than likely end up as scammers anyway, since most people dont care how many posts you have.

totally agree as this can reduce the number of spammers in this forum as their real irritating when they are here doing their job.

It applies to ANYONE who spams this forum. We don't tolerate spam whether it's in the forum or PM. PM spam gets you banned instantly with no questions asked. Forum spam can too if they keep doing it.

People can do whatever they have to do here but don't junk up the forum with spam or anything like that.

We won't allow MMG to become like some of the others out there where it's the Wild West.

You consider one and two word posts spamming? Very interesting. I considered it just that, "one or two word posts." Spamming is sending unsolicated email, or in MMG case PM, to a group of people. In the case of one and two word posters, or Post Count Jackers as I call them, they are running up a post count for whatever personal reasons. One reason I can think of is this thing of getting paid for posting in some of these program threads.

If they think that running up a post count will get them a stellar reputation, then they need to think again, b/c it's obvious that almost everyone here knows what these folks are up to. Just b/c someone has a high post count doesn't make them knowledgeable or have a stellar reputation. Well, I guess they would have a stellar rep as a Post Count Jacker.

If someone does it over and over and has 400 posts that are 1-2 words...
Running a post count up like that is spamming.

You call it spamming, I call it posting (Post Count Jacking)! Both are aggravating and useless!

I see many monitors doing this especially Mr HYIP.




Post count credabilty. I have over 1500 posts and only found out today what peeps means. OMG

I cant know everything all at once. Some stuff you just got to figure out on your own.

What does CMO or CMI mean? I've seen this a few times but I can't figure it out. I'm usually good with acronyms too..

Maybe a warn but I think that banning them is kind of harsh. maybe give like a post count deduction of like 100. But i do understand a lot of this goes on. I just signed up here but alrady found a few in the HYIP section. I don't mind but i'm sure you guys do. But banning for the first time is a bit harsh....





CMO means Count Me OUt, CMI means Count Me In. I think

I couldn't agree more with this. Useless posts, paid to post people is totally unacceptible (not to say irritating, etc, etc, etc). Most of the cases are the same guys (scammers) using a proxy or an HTTP tunnel to hide/change the IP and post this nonsense.

There's a script around the net that forces minimun text entry, a 5 word mininium would be nice.

that kind of script is already in effect here in MMG!

People still find ways to get around whatever limitations you put in place. The bottom line is people need to be contributing useful posts, not pointless + incoherent spam.

Why not remove the post counts all together? That way people wouldn't be affected by how many post he got, and there won't be anyone spamming just to get his post count higher!

We always wipe out the post counts of useless posts of a member. We do delete all their post and ban them if they overdo it

MMG admin/mod team always done the good jobs!

That's why they are so successful.

Hmm.. Is there a character limit on these board or no ?

Guess you already know the answer to that or won't be needing to

Oh he got banned....lol

anyone can tell me he got banned just for posting useless post even on the thread which was open to warn Members that they are not allowed to post use less posts....................

This is a great rules. But how to consider the 1-3 words is useless. May be some one can explain more on this. I am a little confused.

Why is there even post counts for members? Just delete that and everything will be fine.

not really, people would still make a ton of pointless posts to get their signature seen.

I think the date joined and the member # is a good way to judge. I've been here two years; rarely post. I've seen some that joined a couple of months ago and are labled "Moneymake Master" because of all the posts. Remember when scammers were trying to buy long time members ID's? It was for the posts; I think they just found another way to rack up lots of posts and a fake title now. Innocent people will follow them just based on that alone.

Good suggestion, we have just changed the ranking system so people don't get confused.

Whoa

Well HEY Radmax! I certainly didn't expect my post to be read, much less by you. I browsed after I read your post and it looks really wonderful! All clean and shiny with no misleading titles earned in a short few months. Ya know.....some aren't gonna like that; they've been posting their brains out for a couple of months to get those high name tags.

I really do like it! Did you do that because of MY post? Or am I flattered and humbled for no reason. In any event....it looks GREAT!!! Excellent move.
Take care and thanks.

bit harsh suspending or banning people over expressing their thoughts.. what happened to free speech?

the odd 1-3 word post isnt worth a banning

and whats up with people reporting other members posts jus because there arent enough words... reminds me somewhat of the nazi kids reportin anyone who says teh wrong thing There cant be members reportin each other over this kind of thing.. ruins teh communal feel of mmg

You don't blindly ban people for making short posts. We always look into it first. If someone has 500 posts with nothing but

"im in..............."
"looks good..."

Then it's obvious theyre a paid poster or spamming to raise their post count.

I really like the people who go through the threads and post "smooth surfing". Most aren't even members of the sites. They usually have a big banner with referral commissions.

Now everyone has the same status... interesting

paid posters know that they dont get paid well unless they do good posts.. so they make up bs or whatever to do good posts.. trust me i tried it about a week ago to check it out and ended up writin all kind of crazy stuff jus so i can write more than 5 word posts... Employers dont pay well for useless 1-3 word posts because there is growing competition between paid posting companies.. and hyip owners wont pick the boss who charges 10c for 1-3 word posts. apolagies for the lecture u probably already know this.

people who post "im in......""looks good" are only doing it to either express their thoughts in simplest form.. or tryin to raise their post count. Or simply bumping up the program's thread->more exposure on the forum->more chance of investment->member who is 'in' has higher chance of profiting.

Id say if a member had 75%+ posts 1-3 words.. i suppose a severe warning is fair.

Yes I agree with you, that's where we stand on the matter too for the most part. We just like like it when people create a new account then immediately begin to make 1-3 words posts all over the place in areas where it doesnt even make sense sometimes. We've even had people come in and post "smooth surfing" in a thread that wasn't about an autosurf

lol yeh smooth surfin comes up once in a while in the hyip section.. suppose accidents happen or some paid posters just cant understand english. Its impossible to stop people creating new account and spamming because of the amount of proxies out there.. unless you have a large team of mods browsing the forums 24:7 for new members with bad first posts..

another thing i reckon..new members who signs up with a free email account should get 1 warning before a ban. This is until they reach say 50 posts / member for 2 months... then they get the normal treatement. It could cause new members to start spamming to get their post count up.. but they will soon get caught and kicked.
New members who have a paid email account i.e. @aol.com get same discipline as normal members.

its your call ..glad you understood what i was on about before..

We have disliked people calling themselves "Trusted MMG veterans" and such for a long time, but your suggestion certainly spurred the recent change

Oh does that include upgraded members Radmax?

Upgraded members can still choose their "title".

Should we still reporting people for 1-3 word posts......?

Only if it's obvious that theyre spamming or trying to build posts. Usually it's very obvious especially if you look at their other posts. We don't just warn anyone that makes a post that happens to be 1-3 words becuase there are a lot of legit posts which contain 1-3 words.

Okay thats cool but i remember when this rule was 1st brought in that all posts should be longer that 3 words and i even got a warning for it back in the day!

YEA, i agree admin, post 1-3 Words is not very good, at least 10 words!

oh yes... it would a good idea if you take a look at the people who say "Great design. looks good. add more monitors, read my pm" ... <-------------- This really sucks!

Be sure to report those kinds of posts so a staff member can take the proper corrective measures

oh..... almost all monitors post this crap at the start of every single thread. You must've noticed, over 90% of the posts that say "Please add more monitors" has the poster wearing a monitor signature. Really ticks me off. highway spamming...

No matter what you do there will always be a few who are happy with the rules
and some who are not. I myself have been here a loooong time (member #14)
and I just go with the flow.

I like the members and have great respect for the admin (Jason) and the mods.
They always do what is right and what they consider best for the members.

I give each and everyone of them a

for all.


Keep up the good work!
Kowgirl