Have a lot more to go. Still waiting on my credit union to get back to me.
Edit- removed screenshot- worried SP might go after specific users.

4rc4ne
PLS TEACH ME HOW TO CHARGE BACK FROM SP.
I have lost in 2 HYIPs ..and now even worst that SPhave so many problem. i have called my abnk, they will want me to fill in dispute form, so how i going to tell them so that i can get back my money?
And it take how many days for u to get ur chargeback??

Pls tell me that:
1. how to fill the dispute form
2. how to tell the bank the story.
3. how to get back my money.

Sorry, no, if you lost you money to HYIPS you are out of luck. You don't have a case. It's different if say 12DP is trying to pay you and SP froze their account.
In your case the HYIP screwed you, in my case SP is screwing me.

SP screwing everyone !!

well, tell us how you get chargeback from 12daily pro, I have invest in 12daily pro and alientrust which very unforunate both of their a/c get suspended, what am I going to tell my bank? because it seems to be the issue is between stormpay and 12daily Pro, bank has nothing to do with alll this fiasco in my opinion.

Which do you think is best? Filing transaction as unauthorized, or as funds never appearing in your account, or as StormPay freezing your account?

Just as a matter of curiosity... how many of you people are actually in profit at this stage, overall?

No, sorry your money is lost. This is probably one of the main the reason why stormpay have taken action

i have a bank of america card and also have fraud protection on my card, so if stormpay does take money from that account i can easly get that money back..

which kind of pleasure you're getting with this kind of words?
are you happy now as big as reaching clouds?
you're among these people did u forget?
do you think that you made enough fun?
or continue with different nicks?





i think best is stormpay freezing our account.
hope we can be successful at chargebacking !!!
good luck people!!!

How many people do you think are doing chargebacks? When I called my credit card compnay, they responded, "Oh, Stormpay.com, huh?" as if it was the 100th call today.

Is no one worried that Stormpay will come sue our asses for doing chargebacks?

see people no one is understanding the fact that autosurfers and hyip are baiscally the same thing. you are making a PERCENTAGE off them... The percentage is the key word here and thats why stormpay is freezing accounts it's illegal for such actions... However i don't know why i waste my time telling people this because they don't listen..

I'm confused. Don't take this as flaming, but why are you on this forum if you don't believe in Auto Surfs or HYIPs? Am I just misunderstanding your remark?

Seems to me people forget the first rule of the hyip games.

If you lost its not Stormpays fault is its YOURS.

Its people like this who should not be playing these games,makes me
mad because all this mess is because of people like that

i didn't say i didn't, i've used hyips and autosurfers before, all i am saying is that they are considered as get rich shemes all because of the percentage of the program... And for that SP is stoping it.. it's basically illegal money..

Are you retarded? A solution? how the hell is it so hard it call your CC and explain the damn situtation?





What I ment to the poster is that if the HYIP he invested into ran away with his money there is nothing he can do. SP is not at fault. The problem is between him and that HYIP. With my case SP is refusing to release funds to me.
1) those HYIP games are adveristed as "investments"
2) 12DP and AT are NOT advertised as "investments"
SP is FAILING TO PROVIDE A RETURN SERVICE TO YOU AND THAT IS THE BASIS OF THE CHARGEBACK- "FAILURE TO PROVIDE SERVICE/MERCHANT UNWILLING TO PROVIDE SERVICE"

Check my Credit Union account and I was also credited there too, still waiting for the last large B of A chargeback.

With BofA I just talked to a rep over the phone, he already knew what was up when I mentioned SP. He basically asked what happened and what I did to contact them.
With my Credit Union I was just told to fill out a dispute form. I checked the "FAILURE TO PROVIDE SERVICE/MERCHANT UNWILLING TO PROVIDE SERVICE" boxes and at the end of the form it asks you to provide a detailed discription of the merchants response. I took the opportunity to show SP was a scam. This is what I wrote.

Storm Pay is an internet credit card processing/money transfer service. On 1/xx/06 I paid Storm Pay inc, the sum of $xx to enter into my account with them. I have transferred money back and forth between various Storm pay vendors. Since 1/xx/06 Storm Pay has Frozen all merchant accounts for unknown reasons. I am due to receive money since 1/xx/06. Their denial to render services is a breach of contract and in bad faith. I feel I have unknowingly fell into an internet scam. I have tried emailing them and calling them to no avail, their website to up and down through out the day.
Storm Pay is located in Clarksville Tennessee. A search of the Tennessee Better Business Bureau finds complaints against them. Here is a quote against them:


“Based on BBB files, this company has an unsatisfactory record ….In the past 36 months, the company has received complaints specifically concerning the company's failure to inform and follow up with its customers when it suspends accounts, failure to release funds in a timely manner and failure to resolve complaints directly with company management.”

“YTD 2006, the company has received 8 complaints;
In 2005, the company received 49 complaints;
In 2004, the company received 6 complaints.”

Also more evidence to support a scam

“On August 7, 2003, the Tennessee Securities Division of the Department of Commerce & Insurance issued an "Order to Cease and Desist" (file number 03-020) with TymGlobal, Inc., StormPay, Inc. and John R. McConnell, Jr.”

Please reference http://data.middletennessee.bbb.org/common...tml?bid=2146166

Please charge back the sum of $X for this transaction “ PURCHASE WWW.STORMPAY.COM 931-6478750 TN DATE 01/xx/06 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I NEEDED TO KNOW

Thanks so much, you were completely honest and it worked, I was worried that if I admitted to transfering money that it would mean I had no hope in getting my money back. I think now I am going to see if I can't use the same tactic........I am down about 500US and I have 50US in my account. Half was with 12DailyPro.

And remember if the bank or CC asks what the merchants provided give them the statements 12DP and AT post on their website WORD for WORD. No where do they say provide "investments", so don't mention that.

Copy that!

4rc4ne,

Great post..

4rc4ne,

great post, but seem to me that your bank staff is very helpful, not mine, I talk to my bank yesterday about they freezing merchant a/c without reasons and my money is in those merchant a/c and can't get refund, what my bank told me is that the issue is between stormpay and the merchant(12daily in this case) and there is nothing they can do about it, and then told me to call some free legal aid to explain the situation, dame u r lucky, anyway, congratulation

What bank are you?

I am going to try tomorrow to pull this off with TD. I think the wording is key, you have to make the case for proving that its Stormpays fault for not owning up to their terms of service agreement or whatever it is that says they will handle your money.

Be sure to include facts from the TN BBB website about SP.

"the issue is between stormpay and the merchant" - is exactly what I heard from my credit card processor. It really makes me sick. They did tell me to go ahead and type up a dispute and fax it to them along with all the info/emails I've received from the merchants (AT, 12dp, etc...) but not to hold my breath.

The information I have found in this thread may be helpful in my fight tho

Sending it out tomorrow - I'll be keeping y'all posted...

oh, I just speak to the bank staff and explain brief what happen in my situation, I didn't fill the dispute form, I guess that's the problem, okay, I'll try again maybe speak to different branch and ask for dispute form, I'll let you guys know the outcome right away

I have successfully done a CC chargeback through BOFA power rewards visa. I said that the product was not delivered and that was all. I would advise EVRYONE to do chargebacks against stormpay. We all know they are already in bad standing with the BBB and owes money so why not take them down for what they did. Already, there are enough claims to warrant a REAL investigation.

How long did they tell you the investigation will take place? I thought the rep said it would take 2 pay cycles before I see any money back so i was surprised when I saw a "payment adjustment" in my account for the amount of one of the claims.
Anyway I'm still worried about what will happen in the future, BOFA could reverse your CB if they believe the story SP tells them. I'm banking on SP going bankrupt.

thats great news, I hope everyone does chargebacks

wow, you are way tooooooo lucky, I wish my bank is as helpful as yours,

Thank you for all this info, I was about to file a dispute form with my CC today, but didn't get around to it, and felt uncertain about what exactly to tell them. You are all awesome!!! Thank you for sharing all your detailed stories--successes and not so successful attempts---I really appreciate all of you, all of us, supporting one another. Rock on, and bring down scum pay!

SEEMS to me that many people successful chargeback using 'BANK OF AMERICA', hmm, got me thinking if I need to open a/c with them just for autosurf etc

Do most banks have that?

It is crazy. All my earning from HYIP and autosurf is taken back by stormpay. I need to file a chargeback through my credit card company. Please help me to do this urgently.

I request withdrawal since January 28th for all my earning. And when today i checked my stormpay account, my withdrawal request is declined, and i have hundred of chargeback for all earnings i made through HYIP and autosurf. This is crazy and doesnt make sense to me.

Here is the screenshot of some chargeback against my earning. There are few hundreds more.

All my earning is gone, and I dont know whether stormpay is going to dig money out from my bank or not!


8,501,728 07/Feb/2006 12:45 Charge Back Complete To stormpay@bustabank.com $-32.00 - $-32.00
8,501,727 07/Feb/2006 12:45 Charge Back Complete To stormpay@bustabank.com $-32.00 - $-32.00
8,501,726 07/Feb/2006 12:45 Charge Back Complete To stormpay@bustabank.com $-32.00 - $-32.00
8,501,725 07/Feb/2006 12:45 Charge Back Complete To stormpay@bustabank.com $-32.00 - $-32.00
8,501,724 07/Feb/2006 12:45 Charge Back Complete To stormpay@bustabank.com $-250.00 - $-250.00
8,501,723 07/Feb/2006 12:45 Charge Back Complete To admin@12dailypro.com $-10.08 - $-10.08

same here

I LOST 12,000$!!

same here also pending withdraw was cancelled... chargebacks had 3 at 12:19pm today

WTF, me too! They charged back $1000+ on me.

I logged to my Stormpay Account and saw my balance $0.00

I dont know what happened to all my money, I opened the history link and all my pending withdrawals were cancelled, I had all my money returned to all programs I earned the money from. Anyone experiencing the same problems out there?

Damn, I had a lot of money, but it's all gone Why?

FOR ME TOO!

MY ACCOUNT WENT TO 0$!!!!

I lost thousands this is so sickening! StormPay is really a scam. I just saw the chargebacks in my account and found my account in 0.00

StormScam!

same here,my cheque withdraw were cancelled, all my earning were chargeback and set my balance to 0

STORMSCAM STORMSCAM

Happened to me today too!

I had a Feb. 2nd withdrawal cancelled ($2k) and had charge backs of $2k on my acct.! WTF!!!

I've requested a chk of my account balance of $727.11 3 days ago and now, the request was Cancelled!!!
Now i see 3 Charge Back...!?!?!? i have now a balance of $241.71... IM LOOSING 485$ !!!!
Help me someone

They did it to my acct I lost $2k here WTF! And the chargebacks were to the AS accts that they blocked!

same here

Join the crowd!

My account is = 0.

Whats happend ?

the stromscam did that to lots of ppl

http://www.moneymakergroup.com/-t46729.html

Over 3k taken, balance is now $0.00
A lot of charge backs from a lot of programs that closed a long time ago?
I doubt if they even got the money

They'll take the rest soon. Just try to remember that the $241.71 you have left in your account is nothing more than pretty numbers on your computer screen and you won't feel so badly about it.