Here is something that I found of interest.

But it doesn't explain why SP took my money, when I have even been surfing 12DP program for a while?????


http://www.theleafchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage

Really quite interesting.

mswings

one day i woke up and found out that my account have a negative bal. I did not handle any transaction of that. the transaction type was 'CREDIT CARD FUNDS" wtf was that? anyone have experience that?

Sent them a support ticket more then 24 hours ago. No reply till now.

Call your CC issuing bank and charge back any recent CC debits to your account from ScamPay. It seems your CC has been charged by ScamPay.

I suppose it could be the greatest crash of one site of all time resulting in loss of >$1 billion (almost)

Check it out: Is God sending a message???!!

Rain washes out night one of StormPay.com Dirt Late Model Series in Brunswick

I went to a Banknorth branch today and filled out a debit dispute form against Stormpay. The bank only asked for an ID card, my Banknorth Visa debit card, and the start and end dates of the transanctions. I told them Stormpay is an online payment processor like Paypal, and that they took my money and never paid me back, I also told them that there has been many allegations recently in the online forums alleging that Stormpay has scammed them their money. They made me sign my name on 3 forms, and told me that I should expect a response in 10 days. I'll let you guys know if I get any money back.

My Stormpay account was zeroed out this morning. According to the transaction history, my money was deposited into 12DP's Stormpay account. What's up with that?

I requested a withdraw to get my measly $40 out of stormpay before the whole thing went down the tubes. When I checked my account today, the money had been charged back to Luxury-hyip . I was going to wait for my 12dp money, see if stormpay resolved it,but this makes me think I won't ever get anything back without a chargeback.

Just for your information Wells Fargo is about the best internet fraud protection bank out there. You should read their internet fraud protection policy. They guarantee to refund you 100% of the funds that were fraudulently taken from you. I know this policy is real because I had a similar situation with a pp about a year ago who took over 1400 USD from me and the funds were back in my account within 24 hours. I will bank with WELLS FARGO FOREVER!!!

stormpay is blameless?...StormPay owner Steve Girsky said Wednesday he welcomes the Consumer Affairs investigation. He said he plans to meet today with the Better Business Bureau to go through many of the complaints filed with them."I think the agencies would not be doing their due diligence if they did not check us out," he said. "I invite anyone who wants to to look at this.

"We have nothing to hide."

StormPay, Girsky said, has charged back — or refunded
Girsky said he could not comment on specific accounts without permission from the account holder, but he reiterated the company is working to rectify the situation.

Girsky also denied allegations that checks issued to StormPay customers have bounced and StormPay has canceled customer's ATM cards connected with their accounts. He said StormPay is working to make sure people can have their money invested with 12DailyPro refunded "to the extent possible."

"Every nickel in StormPay accounts is accounted for," he said.

Clement said she could not comment on specific complaints received about StormPay.

"We are now receiving complaints from consumers, and we will continue to mediate for the consumer with StormPay, but it is in the investigative stage right now," she said in an e-mail release.

Thomya Hogan may be reached at 245-0282 or via e-mail at thomyahogan@theleafchronicle.com

good day fellas

today is my happy day, as I promise before since the very beginning of this post, I'll post immediately if my chargeback is successful, and yes the money is in my bank a/c right now, IN YOUR FACE SCAMPAY, here is screenshot of my chargeback and, don't ask which bank I'm with, because scumpay staff might browsing through MMG group right now

congr! so stormpay did not deny your chargeback or they still have some day to do that.

I filed a debit dispute w/ Bank of America last week and got a call today from them. Stormpay told them I did not attempt to contact them through telephone or online support ticket, AND that I asked for my Stormpay account to be canceled on 2/10. So while I was on the phone w/ the bank I logged into my Stormpay account and read off to her every single one of my unanswered support tickets. I also told her that Stompay froze the accounts of merchants, etc. who I send money to, making it impossible for me to get either a refund or what I paid for. So far I have my money back in my account, but thats only temp credit til they investigate. I still haven't been asked to sign anything yet

I am in Australia. I went into my bank and did a chargeback this week I still have not heard back from them at this time. I just told them that I paid for a service to Stormpay who is a third party processor on the internet and I did not receive the service I paid for.

hi Philrr,

what bank r u with? wer are in the same boat, I told my bank exactly what you said, got chargeback, but my investigation is 60day, how long is your?

by the way, anyone here who successful done their chargeback, did you all delete bank info in your stormpay a/c? or just simply terminate your stcampay a/c altogether?

pity

Even though this is serious and a sad situation, i actually laughed when i took a screenshot of my history after they zeroed my account. The reason I laughed, they had zeroed out transactions as far back as roughly three years ago when I first heard of them and thier TymGlobal program.

I'd like to see what they have to say about that, does this mean that this money has gone back into some matrix sites I was in a few years ago and thier accounts have been frozen too??

It just shows what a mess Stormpay has made of this whole thing when all they had to do was allow the sites that Stormpay didn't want to allow their services to anymore the chance to withdraw their money and use a different pay service.

I WANT TO KILL EVERYONE AT STORMPAY

me 2, they do all the charge back...

If you funded with credit card or bank account, you can get your money back through your bank.

my money of more than $10000 has been reduced to $0.... What the HELL are they doing this for? NOT ALL THE FUNDS are used in HYIP... what give them the rights? can anyone tell me?? please?

Ok Guys,

FBI is asking for guys like us robbed by Stormpay to file a former complaint.

Go to www.ic3.gov.

Just do it! Now.

Turn your anger into something potent!

You want to see the thiefs burned, NOW IS THE TIME!!

ps YOu know you can make back your money elsewhere.

Help clean up this con-job for the sake of everyone in the industry!

Do it.

I like simple math.

My StormPay account was funded with a grand total of $89.01 from one bank payment, and the rest by credit card.

Also added was $1.06 earned via StormClix.

All other transactions were divided between 3 different auto-surf programs. 12DP was one of the programs.

The only withdrawl I attempted was for $45.00, which was cancelled.

A total of $46.28 was then charged back to 12DP.

When I asked about it, I was given the same "standard" reply about earnings that belong to other people, blah, blah blah. They even had the nerve to imply they did me a favor by only charging back enough to bring the balance to zero, and not take it negative.

It's really quite simple. I funded the account with $90, and tried to withdrawl only half of that amount. Any assertion that I'm trying to withdrawl earnings belonging to other people is pure garbage.

All the money went to programs they "don't allow". Fine, but if they can't pay me, then I can't pay them. Where's MY money?

One statement made by StormPay has continued to bother me since I read it in one of the articles written over the last 2 weeks.

The statement was "StormPay is not holding enough funds to cover what people claim 12DP owe's them".

Hey, I'm fine with that. I'm not asking 12DP to pay me more money, I just want back what was ALREADY IN MY STORMPAY account!

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have the "earnings" I expected, but how can StormPay claim it doesn't have the money it froze?

I don't recall anyone claiming that StormPay has to pay off 12DP's debt.

I accepted the possibility that I might lose money with 12DP and the other auto-surf programs. I never considered the payment processor would decide to play "mommy" with thousands of people's money to determine where I should or shouldn't spend my funds.

The helpdesk at StormPay is a joke. If the answer can be canned into that "standard" reply, you'll get that pretty quickly. If you request, or more to the point, demand, a real answer with relevant information, the ticket goes unanswered.

Not exactly the service I expect from a creditable company. And certainly not the service I'd expect from a company that requires it's customers to trust them.

I remain hopefull, but the reality of the situation does not look good.

Do a chargeback through your credit card comapny, you will get it all back in a couple of days.

I just went to the ICC website to file a complaint against SP and this message popped up:



Now I know SP has screwed us over, but I don't think they're going THAT far!

I HAVE DONE A CHARGE BACK....

I HAVE RECEIVED A EMAIL FROM THEM TODAY Sayin that they received notifications of a chargeback done by me and they SUSPENDED my account


But i still see no $$ IN MY BANK!!! hw long do i have to wait to see the $$ ???

You should ask your bank about that - they are the ones who have to credit your account or to deny your claim depending on the outcome of their own investigation. Nobody here will know the answer - it's between you and your bank.

It seems stormpay are still at it, my pending w/ds were canceled today and my account wiped clean for the second time

They did end up getting me back my money from Stormpay a few days after my request which I was very happy about. Not many loyal companies out these days it seems. I also told them to not process any payments that come from Stormpay, so that's set up.

On a related note the day I got back my money, I closed my Stormpay account for good. Today (a week and a half later), they sent me a message telling me my account had been suspended for a chargeback.

To the crazies at Stormpay : Put the crack pipe down!

Peter

It's been almost 2 months since I've done the charge backs. Today I called Bank of america for a status of the charge backs. They said since feburary they've tried contacting SP and since SP never even answered the calls my temp credit is now permanent
I'm not even going to contact my credit union about my SP dispute with them because I'm 1000% sure that temp credit is now permanent too.

When did you file yours?

I have Bank of America too and filed mine on February 2nd. Was thinking of calling to check on the status but may not be necessary.

Thanks

I just got my chargebacks approved yesterday!

I have a question for those who've done successful chargebacks: did you report your CC as lost and get a new one? I asked SP to remove my CC and bank account info, but I'm not sure how much I trust them.

OH crapo, spoke too soon. Recieved a letter from my credit union reguarding SP response. Apprently while my account was suspended they added some cash to it!
Wow great, except the fact my account is SUSPENEDED and I can not log in. What good is that money?

Here's what some of the letter from the CU says

"This is in follow up to a recent letter just mailed to you regarding the Stormpay disputes filed in your behalf.

VISA has sanctioned our pursing the Stormpay dispute cases. VISA has confirmed that they are holding Stormpay responsible in these cases in the same manner as Ebay, Paypal and/or Western Union and they are accountable for the failure of a seller to provide merchandise/service . This is a tremendously important ruling since it could me we would not have to take it all the way through Arbitration against the merchant. Hopefully, the acquirer for Stormpay will accept the debit once I file the Pre-Arbitration."

So people, VISA IS ON YOUR SIDE!

Wow. If there was any doubt that SP is going down in flames, that settles it.

Ok guys....please forgive me here (seriously, please forgive me...because I flame people for doing the same thing)...but I only have about 30 minutes to contact my bank before they close, so I can't go back and read all 33 pages.

I just got message from SP that they were instigating a chargeback against me. (the one and only payment I ever received from an HYIP....doesn't even cover the loss from the the same HYIP). I am afraid they will try to debit my checking account.

I have emailed my Credit Union...telling them to revoke ANY request coming from stormpay. Right now, I can't get them on the phone.

I have submitted a ticket revoking authorization.

Are people having luck doing the proactive thing and revoking authorizations?

My account went into negative balance now. Some jack__ did a chargeback on me for referrral comm in a hyip.

I dont think so. Hope you didnt lose alot in this.

it just sounds to me like some people dont do their homework

So I wonder when the going down in flames is gonna go down? I hope not to soon cause I still gotta get my money from those sob's

I didn't realize so many people were & are getting burned by SP.

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_...tormpay.com#top


just got to love that chart, back to where they were in 2004. they just did a charge back on me couple days ago!!! i thought they were done with that, i was lucky and they let me take my bank info off, so they didnt charge my bank account .

about sp
last 2 days i got chracgebacks...
for operation older whan 4 month.
But stormpay policy says:
"
Thank you for filing your claim. As per the claims policy, we are unable to grant to you a refund due in principal part to the age of this claim. Irrespective of the late filing of your claim we have still reviewed the details of your claim and investigated the involved accounts. Your concerns are now of record and your information will be a valuable tool to protect others in their on-line transacting.
We will close this claim but appreciate you bringing your concerns to us.
"

this is when i tryed to get my money back from someone from actions who scamed me.
and i called claim after one month... and can't get money....
Strange things...

What is Storm Pay? I have heard so many negative things about them!!

Trying to increase your post count? lol
Read the forum - you'll find all the neccesarry info about stormpay.

Im from Denmark, and I did a succesful chargeback on Scampay.

Could u provide more details about yr successful chargeback

thanks.

What documents did you submit to the bank?

You people should keep charging back scampay to bankruptcy.

aye but we have to pay US500 when we lose...

Can we win this case? Can I proceed? Pls advise...in dilemma...