QUOTE(dinky42 @ Feb 7 2006, 02:55 PM) [snapback]1135149[/snapback]
So i think it's a bigggg error from SP so WAIT AND SEE and don't panic soyez cool les mecs !!!
Big error my ass, these f*** crooks want money and they are getting it from OUR accounts.... Wait huh!!
BakedBeans
Feb 7 2006, 01:03 PM
WTF is wrong with scampay?
I've lost 8k
This is the worst day of my life
megazero
Feb 7 2006, 01:04 PM
QUOTE(BakedBeans @ Feb 7 2006, 01:03 PM) [snapback]1135243[/snapback]
WTF is wrong with scampay?
I've lost 8k
This is the worst day of my life
go to your bank and try to do a chargeback, find one of the biggest deposits you made in stormpay within last few weeks and try to charge back it
hyipcash
Feb 7 2006, 01:05 PM
People, close your open claims, PLEASE! If SP is actually doing according to their email about the current situation, then they are doing chargebacks to refund those with open claims.
swilhite
Feb 7 2006, 01:08 PM
QUOTE(Wisconsin26 @ Feb 7 2006, 03:03 PM) [snapback]1135242[/snapback]
Big error my ass, these f*** crooks want money and they are getting it from OUR accounts.... Wait huh!!
Wait and See !!!
That is the kind of crap that allowed SP time to steal more money - now its not to "PROTECT OUR USERS" but to steal more and more money.
They took money from another cashout and did a chargeback to 50cent2surf (whose account is suspended) so they can keep the money - simple as that.
I need to know how to delete the bank accounts from my SP account so they dont start stealing from there because that is next!!!!!
MrsHoot
Feb 7 2006, 01:10 PM
Agreed this is totally outrageous!!
Just want to caution all that are posting images here - you might be inviting more theives/hackers in to your life by posting the images - sure right now there is no money in these accounts now but your identities are priceless!! So just to be on the safe side you may want to delete thoses images - better safe than sorry and right now we've all got enough to worry about so you don't want to get your identity stolen too - trust me, I've been there and it ain't fun! (at the very least - block the ID #'s - for you own protection)
QUOTE(hyipcash @ Feb 7 2006, 04:05 PM) [snapback]1135261[/snapback]
People, close your open claims, PLEASE! If SP is actually doing according to their email about the current situation, then they are doing chargebacks to refund those with open claims.
Sorry - that's BS!! I NEVER opened a claim and they've wiped me clean
dinky42
Feb 7 2006, 01:10 PM
new post on 12DP
Wait les mecs
Yoeri
Feb 7 2006, 01:11 PM
stormpay has stopped my check and they are doing chargebacks to 12dailypro? why? it's because they can take my money AND close my account but i made this screenshot to make sure THEY hang!
i encourage the ones who's account isn't deleted, MAKE A SCREENSHOT FAST! they are going to try and cover EVERYTHING up, make sure you have evidence if there ever is a trial against the owners!
Wisconsin26
Feb 7 2006, 01:11 PM
QUOTE(swilhite @ Feb 7 2006, 03:08 PM) [snapback]1135285[/snapback]
Wait and See !!!
That is the kind of crap that allowed SP time to steal more money - now its not to "PROTECT OUR USERS" but to steal more and more money.
They took money from another cashout and did a chargeback to 50cent2surf (whose account is suspended) so they can keep the money - simple as that.
I need to know how to delete the bank accounts from my SP account so they dont start stealing from there because that is next!!!!!
you need to contact stormpay and have them delete it but first what i would do is call your bank and tell them SP is not allowed to take money from your account and if they do take SP to court
The more claims against them the better. My account was suspended on Jan 22 - without any explanations. And - of course - without any responses to my 5 tickets and 4 letters (1 of them via DHL - stupid of me to spend money on them ). Now I even don't have the pleasure to watch how they steal my money
sarafina
Feb 7 2006, 01:12 PM
MY F@#$! CC COMPANY SAID THERES NOTHING THEY CAN DO.
BS.
STORMPAY MUST DIE. NOBODY STEALS 2K FROM ME AND GETS AWAY WITH IT.
LunaTuna
Feb 7 2006, 01:13 PM
QUOTE(swilhite @ Feb 7 2006, 04:08 PM) [snapback]1135285[/snapback]
Wait and See !!!
That is the kind of crap that allowed SP time to steal more money - now its not to "PROTECT OUR USERS" but to steal more and more money.
They took money from another cashout and did a chargeback to 50cent2surf (whose account is suspended) so they can keep the money - simple as that.
I need to know how to delete the bank accounts from my SP account so they dont start stealing from there because that is next!!!!!
You can delete your cc yourself, but not your bank account. They now make you put in a support ticket to remove bank accounts. I doubt it will help us, I am sure they would still have our info regardless.
Wisconsin26
Feb 7 2006, 01:13 PM
QUOTE(MrsHoot @ Feb 7 2006, 03:10 PM) [snapback]1135287[/snapback]
Agreed this is totally outrageous!!
Just want to caution all that are posting images here - you might be inviting more theives/hackers in to your life by posting the images - sure right now there is no money in these accounts now but your identities are priceless!! So just to be on the safe side you may want to delete thoses images - better safe than sorry and right now we've all got enough to worry about so you don't want to get your identity stolen too - trust me, I've been there and it ain't fun! (at the very least - block the ID #'s - for you own protection) Sorry - that's BS!! I NEVER opened a claim and they've wiped me clean
Me too!!! i contacted the site not SP....
LunaTuna
Feb 7 2006, 01:14 PM
I have NEVER filed a claim in my life either, this is
coachb
Feb 7 2006, 01:14 PM
I've made a chargeback request to my credit card company as well. I haven't heard anything yet. When I do. I will let you know.
swilhite
Feb 7 2006, 01:14 PM
QUOTE(hyipcash @ Feb 7 2006, 03:05 PM) [snapback]1135261[/snapback]
People, close your open claims, PLEASE! If SP is actually doing according to their email about the current situation, then they are doing chargebacks to refund those with open claims.
Bull
They are stealing from every available source.
From another source:
This is insane, they have charged back every payment and receipt in my personal account from and to 12DP and Alien Trust
Just NUTS!! My bank says there is nothing I can do if they decide to cancel any bank wire they have made to me either! and they can go back up to 2 YEARS
Oh, and they have cancelled ALL withdrawals
They have to be stopped! they will drain every account and then disappear. Its STEALING, Folks - they are not trying to do the right thing.
Wisconsin26
Feb 7 2006, 01:15 PM
QUOTE(LunaTuna @ Feb 7 2006, 03:13 PM) [snapback]1135336[/snapback]
You can delete your cc yourself, but not your bank account. They now make you put in a support ticket to remove bank accounts. I doubt it will help us, I am sure they would still have our info regardless.
i tripple dare these f***s to take money from My CC, I'll sue them for everything single thing they got. people we have to do something this isn't right but what do we do??
tpickens
Feb 7 2006, 01:16 PM
Can everyone here please get a grip. All of this complaining will get you nowhere. You are out of control. If you have been affected by these recent events do something instead of telling everyone else to do something.
1. Call your bank and let them know what is happening. Don't allow anything in or out of your account unless you approve it one transaction at a time.
2. Call your credit card company and make them aware of the situation as well. Explain what is happening and put a lock on your account.
3. Do the above things immediately.
Important: If you have more than one bank account at your bank you will need to monitor each account. If one of your accounts is overdrawn then it is possible for them to pull from the second account to get the money. This is possible as long as they are tied to the same SSN. If your second account is a business account with a tax id number then it should be safe. But don't assume it is.
Nobody on here can help you. Please help yourself.
Wisconsin26
Feb 7 2006, 01:18 PM
QUOTE(tpickens @ Feb 7 2006, 03:16 PM) [snapback]1135376[/snapback]
Can everyone here please get a grip. All of this complaining will get you nowhere. You are out of control. If you have been affected by these recent events do something instead of telling everyone else to do something.
1. Call your bank and let them know what is happening. Don't allow anything in or out of your account unless you approve it one transaction at a time.
2. Call your credit card company and make them aware of the situation as well. Explain what is happening and put a lock on your account.
3. Do the above things immediately. Important: If you have more than one bank account at your bank you will need to monitor each account. If one of your accounts is overdrawn then it is possible for them to pull from the second account to get the money. This is possible as long as they are tied to the same SSN. If your second account is a business account with a tax id number then it should be safe. But don't assume it is.
Nobody on here can help you. Please help yourself.
BS this money came right from My SP account and i want it back in there NOW!!!! They have no right to be taking peoples money..
MrsHoot
Feb 7 2006, 01:20 PM
QUOTE(Wisconsin26 @ Feb 7 2006, 04:13 PM) [snapback]1135339[/snapback]
Me too!!! i contacted the site not SP....
I never contacted anyone - not 12DP not SP - no one - SP is stealing our money and MUST held accountable!
tpickens
Feb 7 2006, 01:20 PM
QUOTE(Wisconsin26 @ Feb 7 2006, 04:18 PM) [snapback]1135394[/snapback]
BS this money came right from My SP account and i want it back in there NOW!!!! They have no right to be taking peoples money..
You can say BS all you want but when they end up wiping out your bank account too you will really be hurting. I too have lost what I consider to be alot of money here. I am out $7800 so far. I am just trying to tell you to cover yourself from further losses.
The SP/12DP situation will unfortunately have to play itself out. We can do nothing but watch. What a ridiculous position to be in.
osaily
Feb 7 2006, 01:24 PM
Did anyone know Hotline for FBI or any Governmental orgnizaion Responsible about that , It seems they take all the money now and Run away , I can't bielive myself , I have lost $1037 and telling me Chragebacks , so where is my money that I have send , they put my account to $0.00 ,
PLEASE WE need HELP to report them as fast as we can to authorities and Stop this Fraud fast
They are Running Away with our money
The Mighty Boosh
Feb 7 2006, 01:25 PM
QUOTE(osaily @ Feb 7 2006, 09:24 PM) [snapback]1135443[/snapback]
Did anyone know Hotline for FBI or any Governmental orgnizaion Responsible about that , It seems they take all the money now and Run away , I can't bielive myself , I have lost $1037 and telling me Chragebacks , so where is my money that I have send , they put my account to $0.00 , PLEASE WE need HELP to report them as fast as we can to authorities and Stop this Fraud fast
i have to wait to tomorrow morning to go to the bank and fill out that form to stop payments. I called them and they said I have to do that. I hope that's enough time so they wont take money from my bank account
deed
Feb 7 2006, 01:27 PM
QUOTE(Wisconsin26 @ Feb 7 2006, 01:15 PM) [snapback]1135366[/snapback]
i tripple dare these f***s to take money from My CC, I'll sue them for everything single thing they got. people we have to do something this isn't right but what do we do??
hi wisconsin
i payed my deposits to stormpay using my cc can i call my credit card people and tell them not to pay that amount to stormpay is it possible its been 15 daily i have credited how can i get my money back
Wisconsin26
Feb 7 2006, 01:28 PM
QUOTE(tpickens @ Feb 7 2006, 03:20 PM) [snapback]1135413[/snapback]
You can say BS all you want but when they end up wiping out your bank account too you will really be hurting. I too have lost what I consider to be alot of money here. I am out $7800 so far. I am just trying to tell you to cover yourself from further losses.
The SP/12DP situation will unfortunately have to play itself out. We can do nothing but watch. What a ridiculous position to be in.
i never put my bank account on line for them to see... Nore will they ever see it. But i will call the cc company i have and tell them not to aurthorize anything from SP...
andyha
Feb 7 2006, 01:29 PM
The only thing that makes sense is this:
Stormpay are putting back all the withdrawls from the autosurfs because hey are preparing to release the autosurfs accounts.
When the those accounts are released, all upgrades will be in order and the autosurfs will be able to make their payments to members. This is the only logical thing that this could be.
If they were stealing our money, they would just run with it and close down the site. I think they have been ordered to do this by either the government or 12DPs lawyers. I actually think this is the beginning of the resolution of this whole mess. I see it as a positive sign on the way to all members being paid.
cheers
R33z
Feb 7 2006, 01:29 PM
i contact cnn.com just now
BakedBeans
Feb 7 2006, 01:29 PM
I've never thought this will happen Cheated by payment processor, I haven't had a chance to withdraw my funds.
I don't know what to do right now
smoke
Feb 7 2006, 01:29 PM
QUOTE(Wisconsin26 @ Feb 7 2006, 04:28 PM) [snapback]1135479[/snapback]
i never put my bank account on line for them to see... Nore will they ever see it. But i will call the cc company i have and tell them not to aurthorize anything from SP...
Wouldnt it take 2 days for them to get money from you r account from a bank. That should be enough time to stop them
bnhoang86
Feb 7 2006, 01:29 PM
i cant remove my account info from the stormpay site!
Wisconsin26
Feb 7 2006, 01:29 PM
QUOTE(deed @ Feb 7 2006, 03:27 PM) [snapback]1135468[/snapback]
hi wisconsin
i payed my deposits to stormpay using my cc can i call my credit card people and tell them not to pay that amount to stormpay is it possible its been 15 daily i have credited how can i get my money back
yes and do it fast. as long as you you say no they can't do it.
g-pitts
Feb 7 2006, 01:31 PM
They wipe my account too Scampay.
bbqgal
Feb 7 2006, 01:36 PM
Seems like we can do nothing... Well... I too filed in a claim early this morning and then found out lots of people got charge back. Luckily, my cliam was denied and so far the balance is still there.
I was not in 12DP or any other programs that metioned above, but I did in AT, which I funded with PP. So, instead of looking through cliams and emails, I guess they are looking for complete transfers of sent and recieved. Another words, if you sent your money to that program and gained profit of it, your account is dangrous.
QUOTE(R33z @ Feb 7 2006, 01:29 PM) [snapback]1135492[/snapback]
i contact cnn.com just now
Good job!
yurica
Feb 7 2006, 01:36 PM
QUOTE(andyha @ Feb 8 2006, 05:29 AM) [snapback]1135490[/snapback]
The only thing that makes sense is this:
Stormpay are putting back all the withdrawls from the autosurfs because hey are preparing to release the autosurfs accounts.
When the those accounts are released, all upgrades will be in order and the autosurfs will be able to make their payments to members. This is the only logical thing that this could be.
If they were stealing our money, they would just run with it and close down the site. I think they have been ordered to do this by either the government or 12DPs lawyers. I actually think this is the beginning of the resolution of this whole mess. I see it as a positive sign on the way to all members being paid.
cheers
are you OK? use your brain
finebiz
Feb 7 2006, 01:36 PM
yes just noted this all stormpay balance in my account charged back and account is 0,i was having 63.68$ balance in my account and just now I saw zero???and this has been charged back to 12dailypro?????what is this??????????????????????????????????I did not make any transaction of this amount with 12dailypro before,i have been investing big in 12dailypro and was having small balance to pay for INM subscription but now all money gone and account is zero as additional precautionary measure i called my bank to block my credit cards associated with stormpay to prevent further fraud
namtar
Feb 7 2006, 01:38 PM
i can't login to my account. what had sp done to us?
sarafina
Feb 7 2006, 01:40 PM
Stormpay is being ridiculous.
If I pay a merchant $400 and Recieve $600 in return, how can you chargeback that entire sum? 2/3rds of that is MY MONEY!!!
I find it highly coincidental that they're not charging back the specific amount deposited or recieved but only the amount of withdrawals pending.
FRAUD MOTHER ERS
smoke
Feb 7 2006, 01:41 PM
Man this makes the paypal horror stories seem like nursery rhymes
Wisconsin26
Feb 7 2006, 01:46 PM
I have some wonderful news people i just talked to my cc company and they told me and to tell everyone that uses BANK OF AMERICA if SP takes money from your cc do a dispuit and YOU WILL get your money back... these credit card companys know whats going on so start your dispuits NOW and get your money back!!!!
niada
Feb 7 2006, 01:47 PM
QUOTE(osaily @ Feb 8 2006, 12:24 AM) [snapback]1135443[/snapback]
Did anyone know Hotline for FBI or any Governmental orgnizaion Responsible about that
Copied this from another topic - according to a recent update these phones are ringing off the hook: Good Luck to all of us!
just called the Memphis Division of the FBI. They need a complaint from everyone, because without the complaints there will not be a investigation. If we can get enough complaints today, they will start investigating this case right now!
Number: (901) 747-4300
Don't be scared, just call and explain to them what happen with your stormpay withdrawal being canceled, 12dailypro and the 400 million, chargebacks from your balance, and unauthorized charges. Lets get this thing rolling people!
niada
Feb 7 2006, 01:53 PM
QUOTE(niada @ Feb 8 2006, 12:47 AM) [snapback]1135660[/snapback]
Tenn-Tucky Branch 214 Main Street P.O. Box 1456 Clarksville, TN 37041 Phone (931) 503-2222 Fax (931) 503-2324 Email BBBClarks@aol.com
Clarksville Police Department
District Three Commander Captain Frankie Gray Office (931) 648-0656 ext.2105 Nextel (931) 320-2748
District Three Operations Supervisor Lieutenant Joe Mixon Office (931) 648-0656 ext. 2107 Nextel (931) 320-2327
District Three Criminal Investigations Supervisor Nextel (931) 320-1265
District Three Crime Prevention Officer Officer Ramond Colon (931) 648-0656 ext. 7063
District Three Precinct - (Patrol/Criminal Investigations) (931) 553-8119
Lindon
Feb 7 2006, 01:54 PM
QUOTE(andyha @ Feb 7 2006, 09:29 PM) [snapback]1135490[/snapback]
The only thing that makes sense is this:
Stormpay are putting back all the withdrawls from the autosurfs because hey are preparing to release the autosurfs accounts.
When the those accounts are released, all upgrades will be in order and the autosurfs will be able to make their payments to members. This is the only logical thing that this could be.
If they were stealing our money, they would just run with it and close down the site. I think they have been ordered to do this by either the government or 12DPs lawyers. I actually think this is the beginning of the resolution of this whole mess. I see it as a positive sign on the way to all members being paid.
cheers
I find this the most plausable theory so far - if they're going to run off why not just run?
or am I not using my brain?
mentoras
Feb 7 2006, 01:54 PM
Me too. My Account is 0 from 1.5K
Bernadette
Feb 7 2006, 01:55 PM
my account has also been wiped down to 0. My pending wd's cancelled...and six different chargebacks to my account!
I have immediately closed all my bank accounts. And cancelled all my cc's that were in StormPay's database. Not taking any chances here. This is so awful....it should be outlawed!!
Is it really legal for them to do this????
j22
Feb 7 2006, 01:56 PM
yeah my funds got whipped out too..My history showed they chargedback to 5dayfunds..Good Job stormpay..freakin morons..I've been scammed by 5+ hyips and this is what they do..
toofan123
Feb 7 2006, 01:56 PM
yall think yall have it bad HAHH
look at me
The Mighty Boosh
Feb 7 2006, 01:57 PM
QUOTE(Lindon @ Feb 7 2006, 09:54 PM) [snapback]1135735[/snapback]
I find this the most plausable theory so far - if they're going to run off why not just run?
or am I not using my brain?
The thing is, they're taking money from people that aren't even involved in auto-surfs............
niada
Feb 7 2006, 01:57 PM
New message from 12DP:
We are aware of the Stormpay account chargeback situation and that some 12dp members accounts balances are being debited or zeroed out.
Our attorney has been in talks with StormPay's attorney today. There was some movement towards a possible a solution. But something happened with 12daily Pro member accounts at Stormpay in the meantime. We remain positive.
We are not yet sure what is happening. My attorney is trying to get some answers as I type.
Please be patient and I will share any new information as I have it. Please check the 12dp member news area and/or the forum for updates as we have them.
Thanks,
Charis
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