It is part of a conspiracy.

I wonder when justbeenpaid are joining the hyip section.

So now we are a good hyip.

Thanks for the info about member count Lola.

Hi, Ninilgr! Glad you found everyone, too!

OMG, that's funny...I'm laughing sooo hard!!!

Sure. Thanks for the welcome YBH.

Its a bit like listening to a vegetarian who insists on spending all his spare time sitting in a butcher's shop lecturing the customers on how they should be eating and shaking his head at the butcher.

double bubble

we could add a "how to grow big carrots" Ebook as a product for C150 members since the 2x2 matrix and referrals needed to fill it have nothing to do with the MLM.

I will add a website free for members to use on the same model as fiverr.com that will be helpful, and members can earn extra income offering services and things to the IM and online opp industry..... how's that?

I just found this thread in HYIP section I've not been visiting since January.

anyway I bet Compound150 will be the longest program in the section.

That would be cool. I already use microworkers and minuteworkers for SEO services. I know I would use it.

LOL, only where the butcher keeps proclaiming that he's not selling meat....!

LoL. Will be a sure-bet.

Sounds Great, Dave

Wow, how is this program going to sustain itself? It's offering ref commissions 3 levels deep and $25 matrices after 3 positions expire? Also there is no monthly fee? Hmmmmmmm, it'll be interesting to watch this one unfold.

Much success to all who join.

Dear Dave,

I have one question. Will you keep your two programs seprate from one another. Is there any possiblity that you will use funds of both the program to support each one. thanks.

Please take the time to read the content on the website... specifically, the multiple income streams section.

Thanks

Another day and we are ready to roll.

Yes, I did take note of that. Thanks.

Good morning everyone !

We need more posters if we are in the hyip section.
Its hard to keep this one at the top of the page because
they move so fast.

Only 2 dys until we open for sales.

Time to join is NOW !

well, seeing the programs your promoting in your sig, then you shouldn't be too concerned.

Well, It makes no sense to me why this thread was moved to HYIP, yet the JBP thread stays in MLM. I don't understand why they did that. No one told me anything.

Whoever had something to do with it, sure had some shady reasons for doing it... in my opinion..! I would like to see that person, come out here and publically explain "his" or "her" rational. Cause, there are plenty to argue this double standard.

I think JBP and T2 should be moved here along with a slew of others. No real product or service to speak of other than the income opp.

If we are in HYIP where we dont get seen, then I want even-handedness and i want JBP in here too.

We need to start a campaign of members going on there and reporting JBP as being in the wrong category.

Or, move this thread BACK to MLM!

Along with T2 and a slew of others. That would be even-handed.

The first product for this program is free unlimited use of our new fiverr style site called microgigs.com which Dave is installing now and will be adding others.

based on 3 gigs a day at $1.50 a gig fees, a member can save $135 a month with this product.

That is a product. because others will be paying for the service, Dave will also allow members to promote it to non-members for 50% share of the profits.

Now, what product or service will JBP be adding. Because, this double standard is going to have to be put right.

The leaderboard is up if anyone is interested.

I like the look of it, especially seeing as i am on the top for once

http://compound150.com/leaders.php?f=total...=0#leader_table

My $1.20 earnings are from testing before anyone says anything

I would agree that the MLM section has gotten out of hand. I am ok with hyips and some of my programs being over there. You know I am. However, JBP, T2, Adaily, C150 and a couple others require team building... well, I take that back, JBP matrices are not a follow your sponsor, but the rest are. If you do not team build, you will have difficulty filling your matrices. I have always looked at team building as an MLM sport. MLM is about helping your team do well so you all make more money. For example, in adaily, I make more money on the team building matrices than in the daily % by far.

I have not seen an MLM product, ebook or service that is not over priced to pay for these team build commissions. MLM is more about team building... less about products. Some MLMers would probably shoot me for saying that.

Sorry, little off topic, but I think this needs to be discussed.

I do not think this a bad thing to be in the HYIP section, there are more people here than in the MLM section, and so more visibility
but it is true that will be active to stay in the first topic


I also agree with YourBallyhoo for me an MLM has always corresponded with the sale of product on multiple levels (natural product type"Mandura")

So technically C150 is not an MLM, but also the majority of programs that are in section "MLM"

A product is being installed, and I have PM'ed Yippee. I would like to see this program moved back to the appropriate MLM section of the forum. This is not an HYIP.

Wonder how many of those clicked my link yesterday and got "No Sponsor" but didn't notice?

Yes folks, there was a problem yesterday with referral links.
If you copied yours from your dashboard yesterday morning, during a 90 minute time frame, it's been showing 'no sponsor' to those who opened it.
Please check your own links today and don't get caught in the same situation as I did yesterday.
Cheers << coffee

I like the product Dave is adding!

Best strategy in C150 is to get a few referrals and help those referrals get a bunch more than you to fill those matrices. Your 2nd and 3rd levels should be a greater number than your own to maximize the comp plan. Sounds more like MLM to me.

I agree with you, it is a great product. That is also great advice your giving to help fill those matrices.

Hopefully, they will move us back to MLM where it will belong.

everyone!

Your post just made me realize, that I probably won't do that well with this one. I find these programs are very profitable for good

promoters, which unfortunately, I'm not.

Guess the 150% will have to be good enough for me.

OR you could put your "fill your matrices" on an active setting. They would still fill and you could keep playing golf all day if you like.

hehehe....that's a great idea!

Thanks Bally.

Guess you heard I like golf. LOL

Yep! You have to ask yourself who has more brains, the girl who gets to play golf all day or the one saving a couple of dollars just to avoid the silly active option on the matrices.

Yes this is getting off-topic, but it does need to be discussed like YBH said. Somebody made
me realize yesterday that a REAL MLM BUSINESS, will always have a substantially larger
amount of retail customers, than distributors. Not the other way around. If not, the product
and/or service is probably over-priced, or is not something that is feasible to a retail consumer.

I don't see too many sites in the mlm section that offer a product or service to an end-consumer
who have no wish to be a distributor.

If you look in the closed section there are plenty of sites that are still running, and COULD
be considered real businesses. Fact of the matter is, folks running real businesses don't post
often in these forums...hence you will find those companies in closed section.

All in all, this along with most sites do belong right here, or possibly in cycler section.

Dave said, People may now fund their accounts ready for the DP sales tomorrow.

IMHO any program that uses multi level marketing (MLM) to encourage sales expansion and stimulate its growth whether it is product based, service based or even just a good old ponzi is suited to the MLM discussion boards.

Like you said, it attracts that certain type of network marketer that these programs rely on for survival and stimulus. That person is likely to be drifting around the MLM section.

They will never find it in HYIPs because those programs are on the opposite side of the spectrum, and your classic HYIPster is the type that throws in a little cash and pulls out the minimum a day till it collapses. They won't be looking to promote or network.

That type of member is not really much use to our program.

I noted that before we moved to this section we were making 28% of signups from MMG, that number has dropped to 4.8% of signups says it all really.

MM, I would agree on the cycler section. BUT 99.999999999999% of all of MMG's current MLM posts would need to be moved. There will always be more distributors than customers in MLMs. Not saying that it is right, just saying "it is what it is." Makeup is about the only business these days that may have the customer thing right. Most people become a distrubutor to buy the product at a discount... so they are really not customers.

Dave may pull off a strong customer base with the addition of microgigs to C150. It is big business, especially with the new SEO changes.

I agree that most of them would be in this section. So be it! I'd rather protect the integrity of this board rather than use it for cheerleading purposes. I'd love to see REAL mlm companies listed in that section, and I'm surprised that Dave seems to think that the purpose of this board is to keep his sales of "DPs" up. Avon, pyxism, acn....those are examples of real companies. Now we've really derailed this thread. I'd love to continue this discussion elsewhere as it is quite an interesting topic.

Pretty sure Avon would qualify, but not ACN under the above standards. How would you suggest MMG mods regulate this section in the future? They would have to really stick their necks out on the line if MMG were to state that all posts meet this as their standard. They would have to go through that entire section with a fine tooth comb, almost acting as a judge. Zeek, T2, JBP... you name it, they would all get moved.

I guess I am saying I do not agree with your stated standard of what MMG rules as an MLM. I do not disagree that this should be the goal in the MLM industry.

I would ask the mods if they believe that the current criteria is specific enough to properly regulate the section. The answer would probably be no. Once there is definite and solid criteria it wouldn't be a problem.

So, lets all wait, and let MMG Admins decide on how they would like to run their forum, and classify the criteria for the programs and into which sections they belong.

Thanks

Agreed. I didn't mean to derail this thread, but since you brought up JBP being moved.....

Well I still say that MLM is MLM is MLM. It is a sales format and not confined to physical products.

MLM is not invalidated if it is being utilized for the promotion of virtual products or services. Since when was that law made?

If the MLM section was turned over to Amway and Avon it would a ghost town. You just have to monitor the traffic figures to prove that one.

HYIPs IMO are passive investment opps, although there may be a section of C150 that may appeal to passive, it is very much an 'active' virtual product/service based and promotion directed entity.

The point you picked up wrong MM was that I don't think MMG is here for my DP sales. I was highlighting the fact that this program is of very little interest to the traffic in the HYIP section which is reflected in the proportion of signups between 'in MLM' and 'outside MLM.' Which is probably why you were 'surprised'.

Anyway, there is more than one way to skin a cat.

The Trump Network thread is going to be in uproar if they get moved. I can tell you, it's all distributors over there.

Ok, agreed let the MMG mods decide. Maybe there should be a thread started to discuss this properly? Trump, Zeek, JBP, etc. members could all be invited to defend themselves. Most for certain would not want to be in cyclers or hyips.

Point of interest, SEC and other regulatory agencies consider "MLM's" with more distributors than customers to be "pyramids"...! It isn't just the presence of a product that determines the classification.

LOL! That's funny...Trump networks...! Donald is gonna lose his wig over it...haha~!
(or maybe it isn't a wig I think that is still in question ... )