Congratulations, you have your first 3 seats "filled" in Group 1 and The System has Automatically placed you in a $3 Seat in Group 2.
You will now begin earning up to $7 as Seats are filled in Group 1!!
More importantly, we set aside the first 3 payouts for the first 3 Seats in Group 1 to advance you to Group 2 where you will earn $150 as the Seats are filled in Group 2 (after the first 4 Seats are filled which place you in Group 3).
It is possible to earn in All Three Groups at the same time... Wow!!
Remember, next Seat filled in Group 1 pays YOU - up to $7 for Group 1. Then, you begin earning $3 on every other seat filled in Group 2 - up to $150. . .
And, you can advance rapidly the next Group, the Next, etc.
All, from a tiny $1 - One Dolla - MagicDolla !!
Group 1 is actually over 1000% ROI and counting upwards to STAGGERING $$ (as you progress through the Groups).
Fasten your seat belt and tell the world now - before they begin telling you . .
MagicDolla Staff
kango
Mar 5 2012, 01:20 PM
Congratulations Doug, Due to your act of kindness You just received this in your email I believe!
Congratulations, you have your first 3 seats "filled" in Group 1 and The System has Automatically placed you in a $3 Seat in Group 2.
You will now begin earning up to $7 as Seats are filled in Group 1!!
More importantly, we set aside the first 3 payouts for the first 3 Seats in Group 1 to advance you to Group 2 where you will earn $150 as the Seats are filled in Group 2 (after the first 4 Seats are filled which place you in Group 3).
It is possible to earn in All Three Groups at the same time... Wow!!
Remember, next Seat filled in Group 1 pays YOU - up to $7 for Group 1. Then, you begin earning $3 on every other seat filled in Group 2 - up to $150. . .
And, you can advance rapidly the next Group, the Next, etc.
All, from a tiny $1 - One Dolla - MagicDolla !!
Group 1 is actually over 1000% ROI and counting upwards to STAGGERING $$ (as you progress through the Groups).
Fasten your seat belt and tell the world now - before they begin telling you . .
MagicDolla Staff Way to Go Doug!
You are not alone with US!
To Our Succe$$,
Karanga O
kango
Mar 5 2012, 01:22 PM
QUOTE (ladym12 @ Mar 5 2012, 02:16 PM)
I see I have another seat filled in my back office. It's moving slowly, but it'll get there.
The Key Word is It's Moving
ladym12
Mar 5 2012, 02:33 PM
QUOTE (kango @ Mar 5 2012, 05:22 PM)
The Key Word is It's Moving
Yes, it is MOVING. I just got another direct signup. Woo Hoo!
kango
Mar 5 2012, 02:44 PM
QUOTE (ladym12 @ Mar 5 2012, 03:33 PM)
Yes, it is MOVING. I just got another direct signup. Woo Hoo!
You Go GIRL!
If you are checking out this thread you will see this is one of the best opportunities on the Net for 1 Measley Dollar. Alot of people in this thread have already advanced to Group level 2 on their way to Group level 3. What are YOU waiting for?
Proud of You, Ladym12
Karanga O
douglawson
Mar 6 2012, 12:35 AM
Hi, This is going great!!!!!! Why not come and join us we are having so much fun!!!!!!
I am want to join also and have the same problem with alertpay not accepting credit cards. So I am requesting to be pIF in Magic Dolla!
Thanks,
truckersD101
I am offering to PIF people in to this programme. Look in the benefactors thread for my post
INVESTOR30
Mar 6 2012, 06:35 AM
I want to join if someone can make pif for me
kango
Mar 6 2012, 08:42 AM
Here Is A Progress Report On OUR Downline! 8 MagicDolla Seat Takers Already on Group 2 Getting Ready To Be On Group 3!
zaheersemy- On Group 2 teammagic- On Group 2 letssee - On Group 2 amzullbiz - On Group 2 juhajarvinen - On Group 2 spjohnson - On Group 2 douglawson - On Group2 Now ladymia - On Group 2 Now
We are moving Fast.. Join US!
Remember, You are not alone with US!
To Our Succe$$,
Karanga O
kango
Mar 6 2012, 08:46 AM
Congratulations ladym12, You have your first 3 seats "filled" in Group 1 and The System has Automatically placed you in a $3 Seat in Group 2.
You will now begin earning up to $7 as Seats are filled in Group 1!!
More importantly, we set aside the first 3 payouts for the first 3 Seats in Group 1 to advance you to Group 2 where you will earn $150 as the Seats are filled in Group 2 (after the first 4 Seats are filled which place you in Group 3).
It is possible to earn in All Three Groups at the same time... Wow!!
Remember, next Seat filled in Group 1 pays YOU - up to $7 for Group 1. Then, you begin earning $3 on every other seat filled in Group 2 - up to $150. . .
And, you can advance rapidly the next Group, the Next, etc.
All, from a tiny $1 - One Dolla - MagicDolla !!
Group 1 is actually over 1000% ROI and counting upwards to STAGGERING $$ (as you progress through the Groups).
Fasten your seat belt and tell the world now - before they begin telling you . .
MagicDolla Staff
Way To Go, ladym12!
See, It didn't take long for you to advance to Group2 !
To Our Succe$$,
Karanga O
kango
Mar 6 2012, 09:08 AM
Check Out This MagicDolla Update, Especially If You Are Still Sitting On The fence!
Hi there Karanga,
Whoa!! ...
Programmers are working on adding the System Bonus for Sponsors and we got the first look at it today.. CraZy wrong...lol
Example: One member with only 1 PIF'ed member under them was showing $2700+...lol we're good, but not That good...lol.
It is designed to pay the sponsors or invitors more $$ for referring more and PIF'ing more.
It will come into play when your referrals make money in Groups 2 - 8 (you will receive 33% on every other seat in these groups of your referrals). Amazing really!!
So, you can easily see the example calculation is JUST WRONG...lol..(the member in the example likely does not have any Group 2 members yet)...swhew...
Some Wonderful Updates:
1. We will likely have this up and running Today (it will calculate "moving forward" and not go back to calculate previous activity).
2. We added a counter on the index page and it just looks CraZy (but is correct), how many are visiting MagicDolla. It's like Nukes Xploding all over the planet with $$.
3. We will be adding the ability for members to "pass" funds from member to member (in your downlines), to assist with making the PIF process more fluid and to better define your strategy in your Group building process (today or tomorrow).
More Xciting News to come very soon
The future does indeed look very very bright!!
That's it for now.. get those testimonials in
Folks, I don't want to have to tell you I told you so later on!
This Monster is getting ready to get even more EXCITING, LUCRATIVE and VIRAL!
All Aboard...
You are not alone with US!
To Our Succe$$,
Karanga O
douglawson
Mar 6 2012, 09:42 AM
Hi, I have 6 in my downline at the moment Works like it said it would Better than alot of other programs that cost the earth Come join us you do not want to miss out Doug
bat08
Mar 7 2012, 09:51 AM
QUOTE (kango @ Feb 28 2012, 07:19 PM)
Afcaajax, Spillover Means Receiving Referrals in your downline from someone above you (Commonly Referred as "Your Upline") In A Forced matrix eg.. a 2x2 If your Sponsor got you to join right under them in a Program and you weren't that good at recruiting but you're Sponsor was good at recruiting The moment you're sponsor referred 3 people in that 2x2 program you would get that person (3rd Person) which would be your 1st referral in that 2x2, because Your sponsor referred more than 2 ---->> that 3rd person SPILLEDOVER key word is Spilled Over into your back yard (Matrix).
So In a Forced matrix whether it is a 2x2 Forced matrix or a 10x4 Forced matrix Any number That sponsor Referred more than the 1st number in a Forced matrix (Which is the number 2 in the 2x2 and the number 10 in the 10x4 Will produce What the Network Marketing World Calls SPILLOVER!
I hope that explains the Concept of Spillover for you!
Jump in The Water's Fine. Watch Out You might get some Spillover if you don't mind getting wet!
I've joined Magic Dolla but having trouble with being able to use a cc with AP, can I be PIFed, I will do the same. Also re: Instant 8 can I have the link please? best bat08 www.buildyourfuture008.com
kango
Mar 7 2012, 09:55 AM
QUOTE (bat08 @ Mar 7 2012, 10:51 AM)
I've joined Magic Dolla but having trouble with being able to use a cc with AP, can I be PIFed, I will do the same. Also re: Instant 8 can I have the link please? best bat08 www.buildyourfuture008.com
Sending a PM right now.
shrik1
Mar 7 2012, 10:36 PM
Hey guys, I have two referrals but do not update, if I buy with a guarantee that the referral will be to promote and I do not lose their money?
bat08
Mar 8 2012, 03:00 AM
QUOTE (bat08 @ Mar 7 2012, 12:51 PM)
I've joined Magic Dolla but having trouble with being able to use a cc with AP, can I be PIFed, I will do the same. Also re: Instant 8 can I have the link please? best bat08 www.buildyourfuture008.com
Thanks You Kango, will keep it rolling!
kango
Mar 8 2012, 09:14 AM
QUOTE (shrik1 @ Mar 7 2012, 11:36 PM)
Hey guys, I have two referrals but do not update, if I buy with a guarantee that the referral will be to promote and I do not lose their money?
No, If You use the PIF option they are yours buddy! All Yours
Way To Go, Shrik1
Remember, You are not alone with US!
Who else wants to Board The MagicDolla Express!
To Our Succe$$,
Karanga O
kango
Mar 8 2012, 10:48 AM
New MagicDolla Update Just Arrived!
Hi there Karanga,
We are STILL moving at warp speed..It is truly amazing what a the lowest price point in the industry and the best system for creating abundance on a world wide scale can do, (average Janes and Joes are making $$ for the first time).
If you have not upgraded yet (purchased an ad package seat in group 1), do it now. Waiting is costing you $$.
Updates:
1. If you are a free member, please contact your sponsor to see if they can PIF you in (work something out with them). Login and click on Activity - note your sponsor's info - right click to to select their email (right click on their info link).
We are working on adding other processors.
2. 33% for sponsor in groups 2 - 8 referrals earnings - still working on this and should be completed in next couple of days.
3. PIF - Just login and click on Activity. Then, View Directs (there you will see your free referrals you have invited - select one and PIF - if you don't have any - get busy and get some free referrals - they're free).
4. More on PIF - we are adding a system to transfer funds from one member to another (from existing earnings), to facilitate strategic PIF'ing to maximize member profits (about two days away).
5. We are also trying to give members the ability to see down to their Group 2 or 3 downline (strategy related in PIF'ing). No time frame on this yet and if we can do it or not. - Stay tuned . .
6. Interactive Chat on the Contact page (once there, just refresh your browser for that page)..Ms. Magic will appear link well, Magic.
Check out our Alexa.com rating - through the roof. It's under The System link.
A lot of heavy-hitters are gearing up to PIF away and you will want to be upgraded NOW - so that you can benefit more when they do.. UPGRADE $$
That's it for now.
More Xciting News coming soon . .
Hurry Up and Get Your Seats at MagicDolla!
Big Thing$$ Are Fixing to Happen!
More Money "33% More" For Sponsoring coming your way!
You need to remove your post. You are hijacking my thread!
shrik1
Mar 8 2012, 11:41 PM
QUOTE (kango @ Mar 8 2012, 11:37 PM)
You need to remove your post. You are hijacking my thread!
What is my team is not built!(aleks17-shrik1)
douglawson
Mar 9 2012, 12:02 AM
QUOTE (shrik1 @ Mar 8 2012, 11:41 PM)
What is my team is not built!(aleks17-shrik1)
Are you advertising? Do not wait for spillover, it might take awhile before you get any. Doug
shrik1
Mar 9 2012, 03:45 AM
QUOTE (douglawson @ Mar 9 2012, 10:02 AM)
Are you advertising? Do not wait for spillover, it might take awhile before you get any. Doug
Yes, advertise!
douglawson
Mar 9 2012, 06:53 AM
Hi, I now have my 10 places filled on my Group 1 Just need to get my downline motivated to do the same!!!!! If I bring more in do they spill down to my downline? Doug
kango
Mar 9 2012, 09:24 AM
QUOTE (shrik1 @ Mar 8 2012, 11:41 PM)
What is my team is not built!(aleks17-shrik1)
You do have to try a little!
Remember, You are not alone with US!
To Our Succe$$,
Karanga O
kango
Mar 9 2012, 09:26 AM
QUOTE (shrik1 @ Mar 9 2012, 03:45 AM)
Yes, advertise!
Advertising does help.
kango
Mar 9 2012, 09:29 AM
QUOTE (douglawson @ Mar 9 2012, 06:53 AM)
Hi, I now have my 10 places filled on my Group 1 Just need to get my downline motivated to do the same!!!!! If I bring more in do they spill down to my downline? Doug
Way to Go Doug!
Proud of You!
By the way, Your downline will start receiving spillover now!
To Our Succe$$,
Karanga O
kango
Mar 9 2012, 10:10 AM
Good Morning, MMG Members and Guests! Very Important Feature Added in Your MagicDolla Back Office!
I don't know if you noticed. Get ready for this!
You can now transfer funds available in your back office to other members to help them grow your and their Team. Look under the tab "Group" in your Back Office for this New and Important Feature it is Labeled "Move Funds to Members" This Feature will greatly increase the speed you advance through the groups and achieve Higher Income Earnings!
It's Getting Real Exciting Now! 33% More Earnings For Sponsors Coming Next!
If You Are Not In MagicDolla,Now Is The Time To Sign Up!
To Our Succe$$,
Karanga O
Globalbizops
Mar 9 2012, 11:00 AM
Hey Kango, It seems that you are the leader of this pack or at least the leader of this thread.
What would you say about us putting our heads together and creating some sort of training site for our team members where we could all share our experience at whatever level we are at (some new to online marketing and some very experienced) as well as our different marketing tactics? I am sure we all have something to contribute. Maybe create our own banners, sales pages, swipe copy etc... I am part of another mlm program where we do this to great effect.
I know PIF is already a huge step but as we are building a team together and believe that MagicDolla is going to stand the test of time we might as well do it together.
Let me know what you think, the opinions of all team members will be appreciated.
Cheers!
kango
Mar 9 2012, 11:27 AM
QUOTE (Globalbizops @ Mar 9 2012, 12:00 PM)
Hey Kango, It seems that you are the leader of this pack or at least the leader of this thread.
What would you say about us putting our heads together and creating some sort of training site for our team members where we could all share our experience at whatever level we are at (some new to online marketing and some very experienced) as well as our different marketing tactics? I am sure we all have something to contribute. Maybe create our own banners, sales pages, swipe copy etc... I am part of another mlm program where we do this to great effect.
I know PIF is already a huge step but as we are building a team together and believe that MagicDolla is going to stand the test of time we might as well do it together.
Let me know what you think, the opinions of all team members will be appreciated.
Cheers!
Hello Globalbizops, Hi My name is Karanga.I go by the username of kango on MMG. I am ready to build MagicDolla to the highest level it can go while at the same time helping my downline get up that ladder as well. At this moment I am putting a lot of my energy on advertising. If I had some one that was able to build a MagicDolla Team Splash Page with an action compelling banner I would use the resources I already have been using to get that Splash Page seen Everywhere on the Net! If Someone could get that set up (The banner and The Splash page) These two things should be made for free by someone willing to do it! I would get busy getting traffic going to it immediately! And as my income accrued in my back office I would use it to benefit our Newcommers. I am working hard on this already and have great leaders amidst my downline.We get those two things Great Splash Page, Great Banner and this Powerful Thread We Will be able to Move Mountains in MagicDolla!
Any Ideas!
douglawson
Mar 10 2012, 12:25 AM
QUOTE (Globalbizops @ Mar 9 2012, 12:00 PM)
Hey Kango, It seems that you are the leader of this pack or at least the leader of this thread.
What would you say about us putting our heads together and creating some sort of training site for our team members where we could all share our experience at whatever level we are at (some new to online marketing and some very experienced) as well as our different marketing tactics? I am sure we all have something to contribute. Maybe create our own banners, sales pages, swipe copy etc... I am part of another mlm program where we do this to great effect.
I know PIF is already a huge step but as we are building a team together and believe that MagicDolla is going to stand the test of time we might as well do it together.
Let me know what you think, the opinions of all team members will be appreciated.
Cheers!
Hi, You just got your spillover from me, you only need 2 more and you will be in group 2 I am waiting for more funds to my Alertpay before I can go any further. Need to get my 10 members to start getting their own downline and not rely on spillover. If everyone could get their 10 we would be flying. It only would cost $20 to be able to PIF 10 into this but it would only cost $13 really as you get $7 back in commissions Doug
Mehr03
Mar 10 2012, 02:25 AM
wish i had discovered this forum and program sooner. I had $3 in my AP account but lost them in a scam HYIP. Is this magicdolla really paying?thanks for rep
shrik1
Mar 10 2012, 08:52 AM
QUOTE (Mehr03 @ Mar 10 2012, 12:25 PM)
wish i had discovered this forum and program sooner. I had $3 in my AP account but lost them in a scam HYIP. Is this magicdolla really paying?thanks for rep
We all hope that it will pay, but it certainly can not know anybody.
douglawson
Mar 10 2012, 09:46 AM
QUOTE (shrik1 @ Mar 10 2012, 08:52 AM)
We all hope that it will pay, but it certainly can not know anybody.
It will certainly pay but you cannot sit back and do nothing, you may get spillover but if you do a little work you will make money faster
kango
Mar 10 2012, 10:24 AM
QUOTE (douglawson @ Mar 10 2012, 10:46 AM)
It will certainly pay but you cannot sit back and do nothing, you may get spillover but if you do a little work you will make money faster
Very True, There are quite a few people that are joining and then doing Nothing. I don't know why they have their reasons I guess. Doesn't make sense to me
Hello, If you want to join a low priced program with huge income potential You found the place here.We will be Happy to have you Aboard!
Remember,You are not alone with US!
To Our Succe$$, Karanga O
douglawson
Mar 11 2012, 07:29 AM
Really upset that I have PIF'd 12 members into this to give them a head start and not one of them reply to my e-mails now once they have been paid in. They are just waiting for spillover from me They need to get off their bums and start to see this program as it is. If they each got $20 into their Alertpay accounts and PIF'd members they could build this program in a few weeks I will not be paying any more into this even if they promise to get other members. The only way they can get in now is to pay their own way Doug
kango
Mar 11 2012, 11:43 AM
QUOTE (douglawson @ Mar 11 2012, 08:29 AM)
Really upset that I have PIF'd 12 members into this to give them a head start and not one of them reply to my e-mails now once they have been paid in. They are just waiting for spillover from me They need to get off their bums and start to see this program as it is. If they each got $20 into their Alertpay accounts and PIF'd members they could build this program in a few weeks I will not be paying any more into this even if they promise to get other members. The only way they can get in now is to pay their own way Doug
Doug, I understand. Spillover is never Guaranteed in Any Program. One day they will understand that they actually need to TRY.
Anybody willing to try and that can see the potential in this $1.00 Program Hop Aboard!
We don't Bite.
Remember, You are not alone with US!
To Our Succe$$,
Karanga O
catherine17
Mar 12 2012, 02:29 AM
the amount of members everyone need to sponsor in magicdolla.com is 10 plus your 10 refs also need to get 10 referrals to push you forward . I have 10 referrals and now i am helping those 10 get 10, but it can be very hard if YOUR original 10 sit back and do nothing to help you this is very frustrating when these people do nothing, and i would be very greatful if more would join under me to help me get my 10 their 10 ..wow lol my user name is catherine in magaicdoll.com and really need some fast help guys thanks in advance P.S i have PIF for some people but Can't to it for everyone so please try and help your sponsor by paying yourself in
douglawson
Mar 12 2012, 02:37 AM
QUOTE (catherine17 @ Mar 12 2012, 02:29 AM)
the amount of members everyone need to sponsor in is 10 plus your 10 refs also need to get 10 referrals to push you forward . I have 10 referrals and now i am helping those 10 get 10, but it can be very hard if YOUR original 10 sit back and do nothing to help you this is very frustrating when these people do nothing, and i would be very greatful if more would join under me to help me get my 10 their 10 ..wow lol thanks in advance P.S i have PIF for some people but Can't to it for everyone so please try and help your sponsor by paying yourself in
You need to remove your link as you are hijacking Kangos thread, its against the rules and not very nice thing to do to the thread starter Doug
catherine17
Mar 12 2012, 02:54 AM
QUOTE (douglawson @ Mar 12 2012, 10:37 AM)
You need to remove your link as you are hijacking Kangos thread, its against the rules and not very nice thing to do to the thread starter Doug
I am sorry for that and i have removed the url link so sorry
Mehr03
Mar 12 2012, 03:53 AM
Is it really necessary to pif my referals?
douglawson
Mar 12 2012, 04:49 AM
QUOTE (Mehr03 @ Mar 12 2012, 04:53 AM)
Is it really necessary to pif my referals?
No you do not have to PIF them but if you do you will have to tell them they need to upgrade and work the program if they want to make money, personally I wish I had not PIF for my referrals because they are sitting ther waiting for me to do all the work for them
Mehr03
Mar 12 2012, 05:43 AM
QUOTE (douglawson @ Mar 12 2012, 04:49 AM)
No you do not have to PIF them but if you do you will have to tell them they need to upgrade and work the program if they want to make money, personally I wish I had not PIF for my referrals because they are sitting ther waiting for me to do all the work for them
aww that is kinda bad...am hoping to earn $2 and hopefully i will soon invest in this program at the end of this week. Maybe u should try to contact your referals and explain them that they need to refer in order to earn.
douglawson
Mar 12 2012, 06:12 AM
QUOTE (Mehr03 @ Mar 12 2012, 05:43 AM)
aww that is kinda bad...am hoping to earn $2 and hopefully i will soon invest in this program at the end of this week. Maybe u should try to contact your referals and explain them that they need to refer in order to earn.
I have contacted them and not one of them as got back to me
Globalbizops
Mar 12 2012, 06:59 AM
QUOTE (douglawson @ Mar 12 2012, 07:12 AM)
I have contacted them and not one of them as got back to me
Doug, I am in your downline and unless I missed it somehow, have not been contacted by you!
Not all of us are sitting back waiting for spillover, I have done intensive marketing with this even have a couple of videos ranking for different keywords and would love to PIF but my predicament is that I do not live in the US and the only method of funding my Alertpay account is via credit card which they are not allowing currently. The only other way for me is to get sign ups and PIF with funds generated through sign ups which I`m working on.
If there is a solution to this, would love to know about it
douglawson
Mar 12 2012, 07:13 AM
QUOTE (Globalbizops @ Mar 12 2012, 06:59 AM)
Doug, I am in your downline and unless I missed it somehow, have not been contacted by you!
Not all of us are sitting back waiting for spillover, I have done intensive marketing with this even have a couple of videos ranking for different keywords and would love to PIF but my predicament is that I do not live in the US and the only method of funding my Alertpay account is via credit card which they are not allowing currently. The only other way for me is to get sign ups and PIF with funds generated through sign ups which I`m working on.
If there is a solution to this, would love to know about it
Just sent you a PM Doug
catherine17
Mar 12 2012, 11:11 AM
QUOTE (Mehr03 @ Mar 12 2012, 11:53 AM)
Is it really necessary to pif my referals?
No not necessary but a little tip for you, I made the mistake of paying in the first 10 people who signed up under me, now all they do is sit back and are doing absolutly nothing, hoping i will get them 10 referrals, which is totally impossible don't make the mistake i done make sure to email them first asking them if they are definatley going to help you promote, if not them leave them as is and move on to genuine triers and not FREE loaders who will pay nothing to help you .
kango
Mar 12 2012, 11:24 AM
When MagicDolla's Admin add the ability to use other Payment Processors (I don't know which ones they will use) Alot of people waiting on the fence or joining and waiting to be PIF will be have the option of Paying other than AlertPay.
AlertPay, Really needs to get it's act together before Some other Payment Processor Comes in and Knocks them off their Throne.
Anybody, Ready to Join the MagicDolla Prosperity Express
Step this way.
Remember You are not alone with US!
To Our Succe$$,
Karanga O
douglawson
Mar 12 2012, 01:02 PM
Hi, I want to personally say very very sorry to all my downline for the post I posted earlier. I found out earlier that my e-mail account was not working as it should and my downline may not have received my e-mails about getting their 10. Since my post some of them have contacted me to tell me what they are doing advertising wise to build their downline. I just want to say very sorry again Doug
Mehr03
Mar 12 2012, 02:16 PM
QUOTE (catherine17 @ Mar 12 2012, 11:11 AM)
No not necessary but a little tip for you, I made the mistake of paying in the first 10 people who signed up under me, now all they do is sit back and are doing absolutly nothing, hoping i will get them 10 referrals, which is totally impossible don't make the mistake i done make sure to email them first asking them if they are definatley going to help you promote, if not them leave them as is and move on to genuine triers and not FREE loaders who will pay nothing to help you .
thanks for the tip dr...it is gng to be difficult to recruit 10 referals who in turn will recruit their own referals lol but am gonna try
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