I love zeek! Best moneymaker I have been in for some time. Do I think it will fail at some point? Of course, just like all others I have played in. Is it a scheme? Yep, just like all thing built around money? when will it fail? no idea. when will the programs in your sig fail? no idea. best of luck.

Hi ,

How long to get paid through STP ? And what's the cost ?

Thanks .

Pierre

I same amount of time as a check. I believe it is $2 dollars. mine was free.... I am at diamond level.

Only $2 to get paid through STP ... or $25 ???

Thanks for sharing ;

Pierre

Alertpay is $25, as far as I know.

Here their answer regarding alertpay withdraws.......
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We can do a manual payment of withdrawals/commissions through AlertPay
on a one by one basis. If you wish to get a payment via AlertPay we can
manually process a payment for you.

There will be a $25 processing charge for manually processed payments.
Our Diamond members get the first 2 manually processed payments at no
charge.

**When you are going to request an off-system manual payment it would
help us tremendously if you would just leave the funds in your Cash Available
bucket and let the company handle the withdrawal for you. Please do not click
the "Send a Check/payment" link if you are going to request manual processing.
Doing so makes double work for admin since the money has to be put back into
your Profit sharing report before it can be processed out for manual payment.

The manual payment processing fee will be deducted from your balance.

Zeek Rewards began in January 2011, but the parent company Rex Ventures, LLC
began in June of 1997.

Thanks,

Support

That's a great research document. The Zeek cheerleaders will rationalize it all away but it is just a matter of time before this one come crashing down in my opinion. The big red flag that has kept me on the waiting side line on this one has always been the compounding. You can't create money out of thin air. I said I would give the program a serious look after the first of the year if things still looked promising. I will now wait even longer.

corey55,
You are welcome to your own opinion but I surely would not call the above document a great resource.It is just somebody else opinion.It has some very flawed definitions and facts.It calls posting an ad to an ad source - spamming.It questions the basic business model that raffles,lotteries,ebay and other penny auction sites are set up on.As far as the compounding - yes I have concerns as well and I can't predict what the future holds but I am not going to sit around and wait for it to unfold and do nothing.Zeek will let you start and try free - most places that are going to run won't do that.Nothing last forever but I think Zeek is set up to run for a while ,as long as people are buying online from the auctions they will make money.

racer

The problem with posts like yours is that you are always going to be waiting on the sideline because you arent a player. You dont have the skills to actually play the game so you take shots at those actually embracing the opportunity. You are on a forum that is dealing with risky ways of making money but you act as though you arent. You arent ever going to get the amount of info that deems this worthy of your upgrade so since you are so against it why are you even on this thread or forum ? Seems odd you would waste your time here if its such a go nowhere program that will as you say crash down.

Pierre,

Looks like I was wrong about a $2 charge to stp. Here is support answer.....


ANSWER: Hello Burke,

We don't charge you if it's a regular payment request. STP will
charge you fees. If you make a manualpayment request there is a
$25 charge.

Support

You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about when it comes to evaluating me and my skills. Many people know me from different programs that I have joined over the past 10 years. Trust me, I have been in all the major money games that has launched on these forums from P2P to GMS to GNI to GEG and many others too numerous to name. I made good money in probably 70% of them but took some losses as well as everyone does, in fact as most people do. I am no newbie at this stuff. It does not take a rocket scientist to know that the way you make money in 99% of these programs is to get in early, not get too greedy and get out in a reasonable time or have a large following that you earn commissions from. I am fully aware of the risk involved in these programs with most of them having odds that are worse then your typical casino game. These are money games, not a business that is designed to last a long time as I know you so strongly want to believe. I am not trying to discourage anyone from playing the games. I am a gambler myself and enjoy playing many of these money games. I just think people like you who try to promote this stuff as real business opportunities that will last a long time are just out to lunch. As far as me wasting my time or posts here, as I have told you before, this is a public forum and as long as I am not calling you or anyone else names or violating forum postings rules, how I decide to waste my time is totally up to me.

corey, great you have an opinion, but there is one major flaw....you are basing all of your knowledge on known ponzi scam failures, not a legitimate business model.

I agree racer that the document is someone's opinion but that is true about 95% of what gets posted in forums by everyone. I think there are not only a lot of facts in the document but a tremendous amount of plain old common sense. What you refer to in your posts as basic business models like raffles and lotteries don't typically have a compounding element to them. Compounding is a great concept but it's just math when the rate is unreasonable and unsubstainable. It's true that even unreasonable compounding will result in real money to some in the nearterm but sooner or later, the bubble will burst and the numbers will be little more then virtual profits on a computer screen.

Actually what i am basing my conclusions on is what I am saying is a unstainable compounding rate. I do not believe there is ANY legitimate business model that can survive with that level of daily compounding but that's just my opinion based on 30 years as a Finance Professional. I will make everyone happy and quit appearing to poo poo their money machine. Time always reveal truth.

Your probably right about the compounding. I have no doubt over time that part will need to be modified or even removed all together, over time. There is no need for you to leave, but it surly would do your heart and ours good....to not to poo, poo on us. There are a ton of programs in here that I have zero faith in, but I do not go around and poo,poo on them. Why? because it goes against my basic beliefs..do unto others as...You got the idea. Anyway, I am sure you are a very good person, and your intentions are not to destroy but to protect. Yet, I have found the best and decent thing is stay out of other peoples business that is..... none of my business

Cheers,

Burke

I have thought about the compounder. I think that they will put a cap on how many vip points you can accumulate. Then you will only be able to earn a certain amount daily. Also they will have to close the recruiting doors eventually to Zeek Rewards. This will stop new people from entering the compounder. So I agree that they will have to modify this program sooner or later. Though to say that it can not last for a long time is a little absurd.

Just my two cents

Yeah and watch out for that unstainable compounding. lol

Does it mean there's no fee for a withdrawal through STP if requested from our back office ? I assume a regular payment request is a withdrawal requested from our back office ???

Thanks .

Pierre

Yes, anyway they have never charged me a withdraw fee, after requesting one from my back office. I have made four, so far. paid once, other three in que. a week apart. matter a fact, I have one stamped to be paid, later tonight. I will report, once it hits my stp account...hope I am still awake.

From STPay member email: paul.burks@gmail.com
From STPay username: zeekrewards
Transaction ID Number:
Amount: USD 228.19
Details (if provided): solarian Cash-Available Payment for
9/26/2011

From STPay member email: paul.burks@gmail.com
From STPay username: zeekrewards
Transaction ID Number:
Amount: USD 145.06


From STPay member email: paul.burks@gmail.com
From STPay username: zeekrewards
Transaction ID Number:
Amount: USD 147.65

Why is it, most financial planners aren't living in 16 room homes ,driving nice european cars and traveling the world?

Because, they only know what they learned from school, they don't create anything and they rarely think out of the
box. They tend to go by parameters in a preset environment.

30 years as a financial professional means nothing when you do not understand all the details of a companies
pay structure. If, you are basing the sustainability on the daily profitshare that averages above 1% and leaving
the other 3 important elements out. Then, YOU and the other naysayers opinions are USELESS.

You are right Corey55, 1%+ a day compounded is not sustainable by any company in the world.

I haven't explained the full workings of the payplan because I don't care if others stay out because of lack of knowledge.
As long as my group is happy and I can answer their questions, I'm fine with that.

We built a compounder and looked at all 4 major elements to the daily profit share. I ran the numbers with various
senarios and they are sustainable. Again, if you take the daily profit share alone, no company is sustainable at 1%+.

I will give you one of the elements that is obvious, but you seem to have missed it.

Include the 90 day expiration of the original purchase and the actual daily percentage drops.

So, Corey55, I CREATED something to get to the validity of the comp plan instead of just going by what I knew
from my past.....because I think outside the box as a lifesyle.


Also, a top MLM consultant and top MLM law firm validated the pay structure of ZeekRewards....you can contact
them and see....nuff said!


No, I will not share the compounder or breakdown the 4 elements....I like the naysayers sitting on the sideline.

Aren't you presumptious. I never said anything about being a financial planner. Anyway, I am done posting. Good luck to you.

Paid on time today and financial planners main job is to work with clients within a lie that that what they are investing in is the best option for them. Meanwhile like the banks the planners would never put thier own money in anything the clients are invested in because the return is so bad. The wealthy cant have the middle class knowing about anything that could potentially make them an income where they could sit at home because they need workers. Colleges need people to be forced to get a degree to get a high paying job so they can charge six figuires for your kid to be around others who already come from wealth and so they feed the need for your kid to want the benz and the mcmansion but the reality is they party and exit with more debt than they will ever be able to pay down. Advertising and peer pressure molds people into jealous greed chasing robots who work 40 hours a week at some Just Over Broke to buy the symbols of excess they have been told will make them happy and will lift thier low self esteem.

I find it absolutely hilarious when people start commenting on banks and investors, etc. I find this post significantly entertaining because of your ignorant post about college education and financial potential. From this post, i am under the impression that you just couldn't organize your time properly in college, you're now struggling to get by, and now you're bitter about the whole educational institution. Fortunately, many people don't follow this trend and thus, you have our future leaders. Of course every now and then you get someone with amazing business sense that succeeds without a higher level of education, but to bank your future on being one of those is dumb as hell.

No one is forced to get a degree, but when searching for a career (not a job), companies will choose someone that has better credentials. It makes perfect sense. To disregard such is analogous to hiring a high school student who just finished algebra to teach algebra to your kid as opposed to someone with a PhD in mathematics or whatnot. Anyways, there is so much I have can say about this post because I am surrounded by those who are successful due to the networking they gained at their prospective universities and the higher education they pursued. Remember, knowledge is power.

Corey55.


If your not in ZeekRewards, I would recommend you take a free position, place one ad daily and learn
the inner workings of ZeekRewards. We all know from your past post you are obvioulsy smart enough to
understand if ZeekRewards is legite once you dive into it. You risk 2 minutes a day an no money!

And you can turn those Free 100 Bonus Points into $100-150 VIP bids at 60 days, then upgrade for
$10 once. After that you can pay your monthly subscription out of daily earnings.


I'm sorry for being a little harsh. I know you are just trying to help us all be careful with our money.
I need to lighten up a bit.

I just don't want someone to miss this opportunity because of the posting of folks who don't know
the full workings of ZeekRewards. I believe this will be many folks one real chance to succeed online.


I was batty until I really figured out how they could maintain the profit share. When I finally put it together,
I got really excited because now I was 99% sure they could sustain it, then I went ahead full steam.


I believe when they lauch the new shopping daisy product, we are going to see some incredible incomes
made from it. I tested the beta and the income potential is huge.

Remember, the CORRECT use of knowledge is power. Most thing you learn in college is a bunch of crap. besides college is out of reach for the majority. Which are the common, very day, least among us, lower IQ, salt of the earth, folks...God I love the humble of the world...Those that the rich and prideful despise!

College is what you make of it. If you choose to take BS classes then you'll come out a dumb**s. I know a ton of people who took out loans, got grants, etc. to attend college. In fact, I'm one of the ones that needed to take out hefty loans to be able to afford tuition and am so grateful I did because of the track that it put me on. Three of those are now practicing medical doctors pulling in north of 400K a month. They were focused and utilized their resources to the best of their abilities. If someone comes out of college as a dumb**s, they have no one to blame but themselves.

Anyways, this is OT. I apologize.

Can anyone point me in the direction of the Zeek Rewards thread? Last I looked it was located here, but the topic seems to have been changed.

MMGCJM, I asked corporate about this new Generation Bonus and they answered back.


ANSWER: Hello Byron,

The new matrix commission plan goes into effect on 10/1.

Support


I'm assuming it will be paid monthly for all the subscriptions starting in OCT.

This bonus will be much better than the Diamond bonus because much more goes into it
and the qualifications are higher. I look forward to what the first bonus amount will be
for all Qualified Senior Diamond Executives.

, Just little kids pounding their chests.....no harm done. Anyway, zeek has just paid my bills for another month. I am so very thankful! It has come just when I needed it the most. I do not know it's future, or mine, but for now...things couldn't be better.

Somethings are just said at the right time.....thx....gotta laugh outta me.

Did anyone notice the new VIP Point Retirement Calendar in the back office? That should help us keep track of our bottom line..Zeek is awesome!

You know, I've always browsed this thread but never really figured it out. So how do people earn? referral commissions? subscriptions?

Your very intelligent. I am sure you could knock this one out of the park, if you wanted too. but do you have the faith?

? i don't think it's about faith. I'm just trying to understand how this program works and if it is something I truly believe in, I'll jump right in. Simple as that

I think faith and "truly believe in" pretty much means the same thing. Would you like a kick start? I don't know you your referral is and I don't really care. I will give you $50 if you upgrade 2k, right out of the gate. What say you?

I just want to know how the program works first! I don't want to use anyone's money until i know for a fact that I will give a program 100%.

I find your post laughable because you assume being the ass that you are that I dont have a degree which I do. Anyway there is so much I can say about your post but I am surrounded by successful people who went to college and dont assume, as you have, that everyone can afford to go and who have the time to find such forums and upgrade thousands in sites; and then complain about how the little people should go to university. Remember assuming makes an ass out of ecoupons.

Best way to learn something is from personal experience.... by getting your hands dirty, so to speak. Why not put a little ponzi money in from your other ponzi programs and take it for a spin?

Did I say that everyone can afford to go to college? and did I ever mention that I upgraded thousands in sites? Looks like you're making "assumptions". Gotta love your selective reading and hypocrisy. Your posts always entertain me. Full of ignorance and pointless banter. Keep being bitter

put my ponzi money into this ponzi program? I would if I knew more about the program and believed in it. As of now, I've only gotten an offer from you and no answer to any of my questions

You are he one who chose to get bitter over a post that had nothing to do with you. Talk about selective reading , get a grip loser.

Not bitter, just responding to ignorance.

anyways, back on topic.

Solstar, if you could give me the abridged version of how this program is run, I'd appreciate it.

gezzz, ecoupons, I'm not good at that. Could you possibly go listen to a few recording, they can explain it much better than I.


link removed

You upgrade, buy bids, give these away to customers you have referred to Zeekler (or subscribe to the customer co-op to get you some which is $10 for 5 customers) and place one ad per day for Zeekler.

Then you will earn about 1%-%2 (depending on Zeeklers Revenue for the day) of every bid you have given away for 90 days. Of course you can choose to repurchase more bids with your earnings or pay for your subscription.

You can also earn from bid purchases of your referrals, their subscriptions if they are ZeekRewards members and from sales in your retail store.

Thanks detraephot. I might add, remember to place your daily ad. It is as simple as pie.. just a copy and paste job. full instructions are in your back office....easy job I have ever worked.

LINK REMOVED has some great training videos that explain the Zeek opportunity in detail.

Actually, this train had to be removed do to compliance issues. It is now in our back office of gif.

how much is the min cashout??

I believe it is $1 dollar. but fees from stp would take a big chunk out of it. 1.5% plus 0.25 per transaction.

You are given withdrawal options at $1.To receive payment by check you must have minimum of $23.50.

racer