do we just need free customers? if so i am sure there are places we can get leads easily. is this the case?

Im still with zeek no matter what..no need to worry folks..zeek being paid my bills for almost a half year why just quit because of one bit change...?

I would say that at some point the idea of moving offshore will have to be looked at because as a previous person posted, no matter what is done they dont want people who could be slaving away at minimum wage jobs making 6 figuires at home if they have anything to say about it. For those who looked at this as a long term growth company there really isnt any reason to panic because you probably have plenty of customers not yet added with 5cc and by the time those all have maxed thier ability to absorb bids thru diamond level it probably will be a year or longer from now. I would suspect that zeek is aware that they might want to keep us all happy by making sure there is always in place some way of qualifying for the daily pool. We are the reason they are able to make a living and I assume live a nice lifestyle so the odds are we all will be ok.

I have this issue too. Please send me a PM with your method too.

Thank you!

I cant PM either...

Hi nebulusx!

The same! Can you send me your method please?

What cracks me up is that those that say they are pulling out of ZR, feel the need to come on here and tell everyone they are pulling out of ZR. If I were going to pull out of ZR, I would just do it. I mean, if I were really going to pull out of ZR, why would I care what anyone on here thinks, just do it and leave everyone else alone.

Well said! Zeek is the best... we will get over this hurdle....where are our experts Neenaaaaaaaaaaaa Juileeeeeeeeeeeeeeee and other valuable contributors please put your thought here.

The regulation referred to is a US law, correct?

Should international affiliates not be able to participate in the 5CC as usual?

Zeekrewards/Zeekler is a USA company.

hi, Neena

what is the payment processors for The new PRC subscription ??

only credit card like 5 cc or alertpay and solid trustpay ??

so our target is 2 PRC sales for every month ??

Please see responses above.

Neena

Hi makedollar,

I did make a post. See Post #3296.

Neena

i will give it a try few weeks and see what happens. If i start to stall then start to pull out

Why, because we care if people lose their hard earned money. If you have all the answers answer this. If you go to Walmart and buy a DVD, but when you go home you find it is a VHS tape what do you do? You return it, right. Well that is exactly what we are doing. If you wish to stay with Zeek it is your option, it is our option to leave. For me I would rather err on the safe side and inform my downline I am leaving, and alert those who may not know. The difference is I take my responsibility to help others a step further than possibly you. If any of my downline decides to stay that is up to them, if they feel they can spare the time or money to meet the requirements I wish them luck. I did not ask for a VHS tape, I was shown a DVD when I signed up. I make 6 figure income without zeek so for me it is not essential, and for me time is worth more than the money it may generate. However you are warned there will be further requirements in April, that is in the email, and on the conference call. So if 2 is easy will the next step be easy, ask yourself.
For those who are dependent on zeek I think you may wish to stay with the program, as you most likely have the time for it. Do not condemn those who wish to leave. Maybe you could assist them in giving VALID information on how the withdrawals will happen. Most of you seem very confused on the 5cc, and how your account stalls.
First the 5cc does not give new Z customers to everyone in a methodical order. As I have stated numerous times, I received 1 in 3 months, my affiliate received 8 in 2 weeks. He did not need them, and I did need them. He just joined, and I have over 20,000 points.
Someone mentions that as long as your rebuy is set to zero there is no worries. I am not convinced at this time because if you have affiliates you get points, and those points need to be given away or may stall the RPP also. Correct me if I am wrong.
The real question is will we be able to withdraw even if our rpp account stalls? I amguessing we will find out very soon. Like those staying looking for solutions to their problem, those leaving also have problems we need to resolve. They maybe opposite but both require equal energy to overcome. So do not insinuate we are not trying to succeed, we are just trying to succeed in a different way.

how many on this thread are actually in the 5cc i know im not

Hi rajeswarik5,

I'm not sure what the accepted payment methods are. I would guess that they would be the same as for ZR: Credit Cards (Visa, MC, Discover, Amex), AlertPay, STP, & Electronic Check (USA Banks Only)

The 2 PRC acquisition is optional. It is not a requirement. If you want to continue to receive free customers from the rotator for March, you can qualify by signing up 2 PRC's. For April and beyond, there will be more details released.

If you don't want to deal with the PRC, then just go get your own customers.

Hope that helps.

Neena

what is the best way to use AlertPay. Is there any easy way to deposit money rather than giving away 6%

OK, after reviewing today with your help, I believe I can set the account to "0" rebuy and withdraw. I did have the idea of withdrawing the difference between the point retirements, and daily profit but find that may trigger the stall. SInce the daily points do not deduct the retirement points, they look to be separate. Which means would need to give points away then can compensate for retired points.
Hope it works as planned. Any one else that may have opinions on how people will be able to withdraw if so choose is welcome. No law against helping those leave the program.

Thanks Neena!


BTW correct me if I'm wrong. If I register free members and give them samples bids I will not require 5cc anyway right?

thank you very much Neena

own customers means by using my zeekler affiliating link will i join free members (friends,family members) instead of deal with the PRC

am i right??

OMG Neena. You have the patience of a SAINT. After reading these posts, full of misinformation, inaccuracies and mindless panic, I am amazed that you steadfastly address and ATTEMPT to supply correct details...and mostly nobody is bothering to listen. It's like most have gone into a mode of blind fear, condemnation and knee-jerk reaction. My hat is off to you...quite frankly, I am surprised that you bother!

Those of us who have been around longer have seen this type of reaction before and the end result is that zeek ALWAYS provides viable solutions to each and every challenge that presents. Sometimes the solution isn't presented IMMEDIATELY, but one is always provided.

In the world or real business (vs HYIP's, money cyclers or online games), change is the only constant. Those who cannot stomach it or find creative solutions probably would do better in "set it and forget it" passive ponzis, where the only sure thing is ultimate collapse, sooner or later.

I am betting on Zeek and I don't think I will lose.

Thanks again, Neena.

"BTW correct me if I'm wrong. If I register free members and give them samples bids I will not require 5cc anyway right?"

I believe that is true. I guess you must have them register as customers on www.yourusername.zeekler.com. Is that correct folks?

That is your choice, you call it knee jerk whatever! I call it my decision, you have not walked in my shoes or others so do not again do not condemn those who do not bend to your opinions. That is the the way of the lemmings. In the real world "you must be blind" things like this are just as unsettling, nerve wrecking, and panic causing. However as stated and to the agreement of others your leaders handled it poorly. I have learned" to do things right you must do it yourself". I will take my money and use it in my business where I have control not people that I have lost trust in. I took a chance with zeek but not comfortable at all with this management. That is me, I am not comfortable, if you are, great. But throwing rocks at those leaving will not assist you in your business.

Thanks.Thats the question i need answering.

So we can sign up customers on our own computer? In other words, they don't have to sign up themselves? I take it these customers don't have to actually buy bids. Anyone know?

Yes that correct username.zeeker.com or www.zeekler.com/registration.asp?UserName=XXXX.
But my questions if we can register free users and give the bids away (assuming that's correct) than whats the fuss is all about? who cares if 5cc stays or goes...?
Any thought...?

Hope that helps!

Neena

Hi makedollar,

Correct!

Neena

Hi Julie,

lol! My hope is that others who are not actively posting in the thread will also benefit from the responses should they have similar questions/concerns. Either that or I'm just a masochistic woman! lol!

Neena

Been waiting on you Neena to get here. You always come here and settle everybody down with
concise accurate information

Hi rennn,

Yes, you can sign up Zeekler customers using your computer. However, please be aware of the IP restrictions. If you try to sign up more than 2 customers from your computer, you will get a message stating, "You have exceeded the amount of accounts that can be created from your computer. You cannot create any more accounts at this time. If you intended to sign up a new customer over the phone from your computer, be sure to sign into your affiliate account on zeekler before coming here."

To bypass that restriction, all you have to do is log into your Zeekler account and then register your customers. It should work that way.

No, they do not have to buy bids.

Same procedure as before. Sign up free Zeekler customers to give bids away to. All is good!

Hope that help!

Neena

First I believe zeek already realizes this and will be making changes, as they stated in the email there will be further requirements. I also had that idea, along with you, and many folks. Maybe zeek will allow it, but they would not say it is ok.
But the fuss is the way this was handled at least for me. I think they really, really want, and need more auction customers. Have you ever wondered why the daily profit pool hardly changes week in week out? The profits cannot be that consistent as any business owner knows. I am also in belief that the auction makes up a small percent of the money going into zeek, with most money coming from affiliates, not the auction.
So I do not want to spend every day putting fictitious people into the auction , that would make the business pretty much a fraud. Try to tell your new recruits sign up, then enter all your friends, and aquaintances in the auction. That may be ok for silver or gold, but when you are a diamond getting 600 points a day, each new z customer maxes at 1000, you need 15 customers a month, and growing. You could just pay the PRC fee for 2 people you know so you can get in the rotator as it financially would be worth it. But again is that morally correct? Morally the only way is to go and recruit people into the auction site, or PRC. If you like recruiting there should be no fuss, no problem.
But sounds like Neena has put a kabash to that idea, since she says they check IP addresses for multiple entries.
Thanks Neena

OK since I had about 30 people PM me let's just wait and see what happens guys. I will respond to those that did, but please no more for now lol. Please keep that strategy private. Keep in mind this is a last resort option.

For the IP address issue, VPS so you can have multiple ip's

The IP restriction was put in place to combat the fraud that took place during the BOGO promotion in January. If you have legit customers that you need to register from your computer, the solution is to log into your Zeekler account first before hitting the "Register" button. That's how you bypass the restriction.

Neena

Agreed, however, nothing is officially published either way. So even they should be able to track by the IP I don't think we are going against the protocol unless otherwise states.

Now regarding the zeek business revenue part, I agree with you on that as well. I've raised that question/concern in this site previously as well.
If you look at their auction site it look very premature which mean they hardly make money from the auction ( my opinion).
If that is indeed true ( most of the revenue coming from affiliates rather than action), I think this business is NOT sustainable for long term. No matter how good things you can say about zeek.
In order to be really successful 80% of the revenue should come from the core business NOT from the affiliate (pyramid) scheme.

The trick part is they wont reveal how much of the revenue coming from where which is pretty fishy.

We have been signing customers up for free and giving them Free bids since the company started.
So they don't need to add or change it.

The mandatory bid give away came about later last year because the mlm Consultant, Dr Keith Laggos
and the lawyers said that we couldn't stock pile the auction bids on Zeekler. Why...because mlm law
prevents keeping more than 30% of inventory. I and many older Zeeklers have thousands of auction bids
that we got to keep and earn on before the changes.

My point, this Management/Company has ALWAYS followed the letter of the law and ALWAYS made changes
in our best interest. Sometimes those two things oppose each other, but that's the two most important
things when you're withdrawing your future 6 figs a month. You obviously don't know the character
Paul Burke's has demonstrated for the last 15 years in mlm. He would never suggest anything immoral.

As for more of your speculation as to how the business is run and intent. I would tell everyone to take it with a
grain of salt. If the legal teams and consultants, who help zeek get FTC/SEC compliant, say Zeek is operating
correctly and has a bright future, then that is much better than the speculation of one member.

Many top mlm companies, Troy Dooly and other mlm watchdogs, think highly of the four legal and consulting
groups zeek brought in to build a solid foundation and adjust their operations, so we are in the best hands possible.

Zeeks not perfect, but it's real, and paying.

If you can't/don't want to get customers...fine with us. But, so much negative speculation over one change.....that's not cool.


You know, it's funny how as soon as there is a legitmate change for our long term future you have a problem with,
you are now the perveyor of mostly negative speculation as to how the company is run, their morality, intent, disregard for us, etc.

I just feel like you're going a little overboard at this point, but you are entitled to do it. I just don't want other fairly new
people reading your last few post and misconscrewing them as total fact.

I agree with you, you and I will need a lot of customers, but a growing 4 figure weekly check has me motivated.


This is my fourth, "big change" experience with zeek and we have come out better each time.
So, don't give up yet FreeZeekler.....stay positive and we shall overcome.....again!

I have a way as well..

Out of the kindness of their hearts they said we get till April 1st before they require the PRC qualifier. However seems to me that should be a given that they must give us until April 1st to get 2 customers. Again this is not about fear it is about buying one thing, and getting something different. Some of us signed up for zeekrewards, not zeekrewards part 2 , 3 , 4.
I do believe many people still could make money with zeek, however in my situation zeek no longer fits my life constraints.
Good luck to all. Keep posting for those wanting out how to withdraw the best way. I will post anything I believe will help those who also want to withdraw out.

Hi, Would you mind sharing your way - appreciate any help - chickenhawk

I have pmed you

That's great... but this was not the reason I decided to join as a Diamond 3 weeks ago. I signed up two new gold affiliates already (Three more ready to sign up, but I will wait to see what happens with this) and now need to tell them that this is not a program for an additional income stream but will be a full time job to be a success. I have a full time job myself that is very time consuming and if I work on my Zeek like this as it appears will be needed, then I lose out on income and clients from my full time job. Hopefully they can come up with a solution, so I will continue to feel good about signing up new clients for Zeek. What happens a few months down road when I need to give away 1500-2000 bids or more a day. Do I need to quit my job of 18+yrs to keep up??...not going to happen.

Hey Freezeekler, where did you read that it would be required to get PRC customers? I only read that if you get two, they will give you free customers in March, and additionally, in April they would come up with a new structure to earn free customers from Zeekler?

First, I would like to say I have never posted on this forum before, nor any other forum for that matter. I am dissapointed in the way Zeek has handled this matter. If they knew the law was going to change, and undoubtedly they did, they should have said something a long time ago.

That being said, I still believe this can work and I am going to do whatever it takes to do so.

Second, I would like to know if there is anyway we can have a private co-op that gives away customers to affiliates. I have know idea how this would be implemented, but I am sure there are some computer gurus outthere that could set it up rather easily.

Lastly, if there is anyone that can provide suggestions on how to get customers that are going to actually use the bids, please do. I am not interested in just giving bids away to people I know will never use them. I am even willing to spend some money on getting them.

Sorry you are not required, but if you do not you will need to get customers on your own. In the conference they just had Dawn said for March you will not need the 2 PRC to be eligible. You will get until April 1 to get 2 PRC . To me that seems a given as in theory you can get 2 PRC customers until April 1 anyway. So all that did was confirm what should be done, not really a present/gift to us as she made it sound.
But Dawn said we will get a zeeknews very soon outlining these things very soon. I am with the other guy I do not have time to devote 2-8 hours a day, and will not give up a 6 figure income on something that has more twist, and changes than my wife. I am happy to take my profits and move on to other ventures.

Good for you, glad you will continue. I am on the other side of the fence but I respect your decision.
You do have a valid point, the 9 people who did sign up for the auctions from advertising, either never used any points, or never bought any points. The auction for me comes with the same issue it requires lots of time. I tried the auction a few times but it required hours of sitting and waiting, and perfect timing to win. Yes you could do the auto bidding but that was a shot in the dark.
Yes there are possibilities to get people to join, hell if you are getting the points I do you could pay people $20 cash to sign up and still be ahead if that trips your trigger. Unfortunately I feel that is against what zeek is trying to do, and would not help zeek as those folks will not bid due to the fact to win takes lots of time.
If Zeek could twist the auctions to make it more time friendly in some way maybe they would have more folks bidding.

Please, please, please, spare us your constant whining. If you are going to leave, please just leave. I stopped counting how many times you have said you are leaving, but you are still here. Everyone gets that you are unhappy. Call ZR and cry to them. This board has been and still is for those that want to learn more about this business. There are great posters on here that are trying their best to answer questions and you hijacking this board with your repeated unchanging posts is adding nothing constructive to the discussion. Your concerns have been addressed at length by more than one poster. You clearly are not interested in finding a solution to the situation we are ALL in. Take your money and leave. If you really are making a six figure income, you should have way better things to do than harass this board.

I am leaving zeek, not leaving this board until I feel like it! I am not sure informing people of the truth is harrassing. Sir are you blind? This is a discussion board. Anyhow I will be back with info. for those leaving when I have more, or until I am kicked.

What about if you can set up a site where you charge affiliates to for each customer to provide? who is with me I have 1 idea as well. i have have programmer to create website. but need to market to get customers which can be attractive instead of just free bids. PM me. I can't PM since I have less post.