Let's just keep making money so we can be/stay free and enjoy the people we care about.

Well actually they do know what they are talking about thus its a great post. We could go back and forth all week but anyway its far better than anything else you could be a member of so thats all i will say about it.

That's probably true.

I can agree wholeheartedly with you on that.

Very good answer...im guessing this is why that 1% of the wealthy stay wealthy...because they keep working instead wasting their time to teach others to become wealthy.

Well i guess its works...with page hits. I got about 100 views to my page just today from this. Not bad to get some some traffic if ur wiling to spend about 30min earning credits. its free too so yah.

i am currently a diamond customer, but so far i am not recruiting anyone yet. i am wondering is there a way that you can down-grade your account to silver?

yup. you can downgrade next month, just contact them, they will cancel your diamond membership and then you will be able to purchase silver.

They are paying yet?

Thanks

Downgrade now and put the extra $90 into VIP bids.

Are you being sarcastic...or is this a real question? R they "paying" yet? That's sounds like a question about a HYIP site. This is not a HYIP. I get a check every week on the same day...if I request on the same day. Now taking out over $200 per week and business is still growing. Does that count?

Hi shampoo,

All the replies from the other members are correct. Yes you can downgrade to Silver if you wish. But please keep in mind that if you downgrade before your 60 days are up from the date of registration, they will take away the extra bonus points that you received as a Diamond. So if you downgrade to Silver before day 60 of your registration date, they will take away 90 bonus points.

shampoo, the following is just a general FYI. I am in no way suggesting that you fall into this category.

General FYI: This policy was implemented in an effort to combat people taking advantage of the extra bonus points and then quickly downgrading to a lower subscription.

Neena

Hello all,

Just an FYI:

All Zeekler customers (U.S. & international) can now choose the cash-out option for the item they win. For example, if you win a camcorder for $20 (with a retail value of $350), instead of paying $20 + shipping for the camcorder and having it shipped to you, you now have the option of paying the $20 + shipping and taking the cash equivalent of $279 (what it would cost the company to buy the camcorder) paid out via AP or STP. I think that's such a cool option!

What's even better, you can turn around and purchase bids with all the money you just won! How cool is that!

Neena

Does anyone else see many bugs in their retirement calendar? Is it imperative that we submit every single bug?

Hi tibetan113,

Yes, I noticed that too. The bugs started right after the upgrade on 12-14. It makes it harder to keep track of, but it is nothing that is to our disadvantage.

For instance, I'll have some points that will retire in 90 days and some will retire in 91 days AND this is from the same day's profit run before midnight. I have multiple bid repurchases from my own and some from my referrals' repurchases. If they all occur on the same day, then they should retire on the same day. But that's not the case anymore.

I haven't submitted a bug report. I figure they would figure it out eventually.

Neena

My friend in Korea has been a diamond affiliate with zeekrewards for over 1 month now. Can she get the pay check in Korea by mail when the time comes to get paid?

Hi hannahheart,

Yes, international members can get paid via paper checks by mail (in U.S. dollars only), unless they specifically request a bank wire.

Neena

thank you for the information, i am really appreciated.

You're very welcome, shampoo.

Neena

Never mind, I see how this thing works. I saw some days that were skipped on the calendar but it turns out, the points carried over to combine with the nextday's points causing a larger point balance. As what Neena stated. Def not to our disadvantage. No errors so far. as they were only mine to begin with

Thanks, Neena! My friend will be very happy to hear that. Now she can start to refer her friends with no worries..............

You're welcome, hannahheart!

On the day our checks are cut, how long does it take to reach your mailbox? Anyone?

i have a question on 5cc, should i also join this program? will it benefit me more? sorry i ask too many questions. i am new to zeekrewards.

Hi shampoo,

Yes, I would definitely recommend you join the 5cc. The benefit is that your account will never stall if you have the 5cc as a back-up for customer acquisition. If you don't have any customers, don't have any internal funds (cash available or matrix commissions), and aren't subscribed to the 5cc, then your account will stall. It means that you will not be able to repurchase any more bids until you either sign up more customers or sign up for the 5cc. Remember, bids must be given away to customers before they can become VIP Points. Being in the 5cc will handle this for you automatically.

It only costs $10 for the first batch of 5 customers and $10 for the next batch of 5 customers. After the initial 10 customers at the discounted rate, the customer costs go up quite a bit. However you will pay less if you are a 5cc subscriber. See below.

Non-5cc Customer Costs:

Silver Subscribers: $6/customer
Gold Subscribers: $4.50/customer
Diamond Subscribers: $3/customer

5cc Customer Costs:

Silver Subscribers: $5/customer
Gold Subscribers: $3.50/customer
Diamond Subscribers: $2/customer

Hope this helps!

Neena

Hi Neena or anyone,
I thought they had just decided to charge us 2.50 per customer no matter what subcription you have. BTW, I haven't had to pay for the 5cc in a while like 3weeks. I don;t know what happened. It just says, points given to the customer pool.

I paid for about 30 customers altogether.

Hello shampoo,
Of coarse Neena is 100% correct but me personally I just make sure their is $10 in my cash balance at all times and if I need a customer it is automatically taken out of cash balance.I do not have to get a credit card involved that way.

racer

tibetan113,

The new customer costs went into effect on December 1st.

Without having more information about your personal account situation, I would not be able to offer an explanation as to why you haven't been charged for the 5cc for the past 3 weeks. One obvious explanation is that due to the higher bid-give limit that was raised last month, you would now be able to give twice as many bids to the same existing customers. So the system is probably going back and giving more bids to your 30 customers. If that is the case, you won't need any new customers for a while and thus won't be charged anything for a while.

Hope that helps!

Neena

Thanks Neena! I have 37 customers to be exact

tibetan113,

I suppose that depends on where you live. I believe the checks are being sent from North Carolina (someone correct me if I'm wrong). The further you live from NC, the longer it would take to receive the check. I imagine it should take no longer than 7 days or so to receive the check if you are in the U.S.

Neena

Where can I find the news on the change for the co-op and bid giveaway amounts starting Dec. 1 2011?

Hi tibetan113,

Here's the link to the ZeekRewardsNews post regarding the new customer costs and bid-give amounts:

http://zeekrewardsnews.com/2011/11/custome...policy-updates/

I highly recommend everyone subscribe to ZeekRewardsNews. It is the best source of information for any important news from corporate.

Hope that helps.

Neena

Im not sure if i can post a news link on here about the Zeekler site. It raises some fews concerns while we are about roll into 2012 and file our taxes. But just saw this today and it posted today i guess its from a guy who knows about MLM and network marketing. If i cant post the link then i apologize and dont wanna scare anyone as i am a zeek affiliate too. http://www.linkedin.com/share?viewLink=&am...=sae_i_m_sd_val

hmmm... risk is always there while investing online...

I've changed my mind about Zeek Rewards. After reading everything I could find about it, I don't believe it's a legitimate business or a sustainable one.

Ok, please pm me when you find a program more legitimate and sustainable than zeek. lol

Just found this in this "know-it-all's" review:

---begin---
In tying their daily returns to the guarantee of daily new customers, Zeek Rewards inevitably set themselves up for catastrophic collapse.
Think about it. Hypothetically, let’s say one day no new members sign up to Zeek Rewards via their advertising co-op. Members of course are still able to purchase customers (even though they don’t exist) and are put in a line waiting to be allocated.
In the meantime they receive their VIP points and a calculated percentage return for the day.
The next day this happens again. And again, and again and again.
Even if we’re a little more forgiving and change zero customers to ‘well below the amount needed to sustain member return payouts’, after one week, one month, hell a YEAR of not having enough money to actually pay out everyone (because there’s not enough actual customers!), what happens when everybody eventually wants to cash out?
Where the hell is the money going to come from??---end---


IF THERE IS NO PROFIT, THERE IS NO DAILY EARNINGS!

I actually hope you're right and I'm wrong.

I did not say I am right and you are wrong, I just ask you to pm me If you find a a better program. I am always looking for great programs with top notch business models.

PM me too guys ^ lol

Yah thats exactly what i was thinking too since we earn "profit" share...but what raise my eyebrow was whats gonna happen when we start to get our Form 1099's...now every year since i been working (about 14yrs) I been doing my own taxes by hand and i can say im pretty good when comes to that. Now he made a good point about 'how the IRS gonna look at this income' from zeekrewards since its not an investment yet we're getting paid pretty handsomely for little effort (for some people) Now i dont know anything about actual Tax laws, or tax codes etc. Does anyone know if this gonna have a major impact or its just gonna have to be a "wait and see" thing. Because yah i know Zeek gotten all their legal sides covered but you know how the IRS is....they will want to know how you made every penny so they can get their money as well.

profit share is risky. You either get paid, paid less, or nothing at all. I'm fine with that. Better than getting paid $10.00 an hr working for a multimillion dollar a year business. That should be illegal- to pay so little when the entity makes so much.

I don't understand why companies can't pay the little guy like us to advertise! Yeah, they can pay millions for an advertising agency to promote their products but they said themselves, they would rather pay us to saturate the market and its working. I don't see how the IRS would find it illegitimate.

The product we are buying is virtual, yes- VIP Sample Bids, they aren't physical but they sure are worth something to the customer that bids with them. And once they are gone, that's it. I would say there is a demand here. These bids are being virtually distributed by us, the affiliate to new prospects to bid with. The end result may be that they win a product, spend more on retail bids, or sign up as an affiliate to promote the business. No matter what, its for promotion and selling of items from the auction site. What is wrong with this?

Lighthouse is very creative in there business design. It doesn't mean they are trying to get by with a ponzi type model.
Its like saying one doesn't have a legitimate business, cause they don't have a real product, because they sell ad space.

I must be missing something here.

Getting paid handsomely for little effort will not be why the IRS looks at Zeek. If the IRS based thier judgement on dollars per effort,
all the major sports atheletes would have a problem; Movie actors; Hedge Fund Managers; all the Amway Diamonds; Monavie Diamonds;
Herbalife and others would have a problem with effort. I know people in one of the juice companies that make 2-3 million a year and all
they do is keep a few personal referrals and an autoship now for qualification after building their business. So effort for dollars is not
the issue.

I'm more concerned with understanding. I'm hoping the Nehra law firm with their decades of experience helping Amway
and others can be our front men for protecting us from regulators who don't understand the ZeekRewards Business model.


The Zeekler penny auction model is already accepted. These have been around for more than 5 years and have made
it through the tax seasons.

I'm not concerned about the VIP bid value. The VIP bids have already passed muster. All penny auctions have filed
taxes using the sell bids model to bid on products. Including Zeekler for 2010.

My concern is the IRS not understanding that we buy a product to give away as samples and the company shares daily
profits with us. We do not invest.

Paul made a point that the hardest thing for people to grasps is that we don't invest in the company. We, the affiliates,
buy the bids and give them as samples. At that point the money belongs to ZR. The points have no dollar value what
so ever. I have 20-30K points. I have no money in ZeekRewards because points aren't money. Today I will earn some
money, but if I spend it on bids, that money is gone. If ZeekRewards stopped making profit today I have ZERO dollars
invested, i just bought a lot of product that I gave away or used in the penny auction.

That is definitely not an investment model.

That's not any different than your typical mlm. Let's take one of the many juice companies. You buy a lot of juice (VIP bids)
bottles/samples. You give them away. The company gives you Point value (pv) which is not money nor is VIP points. The
juice company takes 50% of their profits and shares it with you and other affiliates based on how much PV (VIP pts.) you have.
So does ZeekRewards.

The percentage each affiliate gets is based on how many bottles (bids) are given away as samples in his organization.
(we know no one sells the majority of the juice (bids) to customers.) It doesn't matter if you gave away 1,000 bottles of juice
(bids) or you gave away 10 and your group gave 990. If you/your team gave away 1,000 and I give away 10, you earn more
profit share of the 50% payout than I do. You might get paid monthly instead of daily but you got a percentage of profit share.

Now, people in these juice companies consume the majority of the product themselves, give alot away as samples and probably
less than 5% of the juice is sold retail. But the juice company makes good profit because they made the majority of their money
when the affiliate purchased the juice! And a little more when the small percentage of customers bought.

My point. I have never seen more than one juice mlm make more than 10% of it's profit from retail customers and most are
doing very well because they make 90%+ of their profit on their affiliates and the irs is ok with that for 50 years (Amway).
No one is yelling, they can't stay in business or they are a pyramid, because 90% of the money/profit comes from the affiliates
buying product every day.

So the naysayers who say zeek can't sustain payout because they don't have enough customers, just lack a lot of knowledge
regarding ZeekRewards and its relation to typical mlm. ZR makes a good deal of profit when we purchase the product, BIDS,
just like when reps buy all the juice. If Monavie never retailed one bottle of juice they would still make good profit and they
don't retail much! Retail customers is just icing on the cake in the vast majority of Mlm's.

And again, this is an exceptable practice by the irs for mlm's with real and virtual products and there are court cases to
support it. I believe our lawyers have the ability to convey that message to the irs if need be.


I might have to step up to the plate...lol. I did win my case for child custody when my ex-wife took me
to court. I represented myself and her lawyer didn't see me coming....his expressions to my rebuttals were priceless.
Now she's happy I won, because she sees how important a good dad was for the kids. And now, my wife and I
celebrate new years with her and her husband for the last five years! We're good friends....back on topic.

Naw....the I-R-mess would eat me alive.

The only thing people should be worrying about is if they arent a member of this site currently and years go by and 5 years from now and ten years from now they have still not joined. Pick another site you are in right now and really ask yourself if that tripler is going to be around in 5 years paying your bills or that hot hyip you love. Thats something to worry about.

Yea, I wouldn't want to look back and see I missed this!

I have a new question. My friend has a free account/blue. She just reached the 60 days. What if she stays blue? Will she still accumulate anything?

I thought I saw a video a while back that explained that even if you had a free account for such and such time that you would still earn. I realize that she can't request a check or possibly even earn in the cash column.

If anyone has experience with still having a free account after the 60 days, please chime in.
Thanks
Tiffany

Hi tiffanmc,

After a free affiliate has earned on his/her bonus points for 60 days, the original 100 bonus points will drop off, and the remaining points will automatically transfer over to the VIP Points Balance. The 90-day clock starts ticking the minute they convert to VIP Points. Your referral must upgrade right away and purchase at least 10 Zeek Sample Bids in order to qualify to continue earning in the RPP. If it takes a few days for him/her to do this, then he/she would have lost a few days of earnings.

Hope this helps.

Neena

Thank you, we were going to see what her account looked like in the morning! But I'll take your word What if she does not get any customers right away? Will she earn nothing?