I had some cycles happen last night. 5 taps. Cycle Payment 12.50 Funds added to Cycle Bucket 12.50
ewallet balance.25.00 reserve cycle balance 25.00
So in 10 days i take it i can do a request of payment.Or reinvest. So things are moving foreward Nice to see this. I will have more cycles throughout the week as I purchased more on certain days.
So do i have to wait 10 days to purchase product from ewallet balance? I go to buy package,and it looks like i can purchase more according to ewallet balance.
And how does auto repurchase of 50% work.? It did not repurchase.
BlondebyChoice
Jan 26 2012, 04:40 AM
Well I did see that TAP 3.5 was automatically bought for me, and had enough funds to buy 3.6 and 3.7 so I bought them.. I would think the purchase button would have been shut off if we weren't able to make a purchase from our available funds..
Also, I DID NOT receive that letter from Paylution..
BlondebyChoice
alsoranmike
Jan 26 2012, 04:45 AM
I'm trying to transfer funds to somebody but I keep getting logged out.
It worked just fine yesterday.
Has anybody else experienced this?
jefbru
Jan 26 2012, 04:55 AM
QUOTE (alsoranmike @ Jan 26 2012, 04:45 AM)
I'm trying to transfer funds to somebody but I keep getting logged out.
It worked just fine yesterday.
Has anybody else experienced this?
Internal transfer function is temporarily disabled.
Shouldn't be too long before it's working again.
alsoranmike
Jan 26 2012, 05:02 AM
QUOTE (jefbru @ Jan 26 2012, 08:55 AM)
Internal transfer function is temporarily disabled.
Shouldn't be too long before it's working again.
Ok, thanks Mr. jefbru.
Fab1j0
Jan 26 2012, 06:03 AM
I want to know if TAP's expired after 60 days or expired after 60 days 50% and after 120 days 50%?
Thanks a lot
BlondebyChoice
Jan 26 2012, 06:14 AM
QUOTE (Fab1j0 @ Jan 26 2012, 10:03 AM)
I want to know if TAP's expired after 60 days or expired after 60 days 50% and after 120 days 50%?
Thanks a lot
The last I heard ( which was on Tuesday 1/24/12 call ) was 50% expire after 6h cycle ( 60 days ) and the remaining 50% expire after the 12th cycle (120 days )..
BlondebyChoice
mick97
Jan 26 2012, 06:35 AM
So do i have to wait 10 days to purchase product from ewallet balance? Or can we purchase even though its a 10 day waiting period?
I go to buy package,and it looks like i can purchase more according to ewallet balance.
And how does auto repurchase of 50% work.? It did not repurchase for me and I have 25 bucks in each account.Ewallet and reserve. Put in a ticket or wait? I see some people auto repurchased.
alsoranmike
Jan 26 2012, 07:12 AM
QUOTE (mick97 @ Jan 26 2012, 10:35 AM)
So do i have to wait 10 days to purchase product from ewallet balance? Or can we purchase even though its a 10 day waiting period?
I go to buy package,and it looks like i can purchase more according to ewallet balance.
And how does auto repurchase of 50% work.? It did not repurchase for me and I have 25 bucks in each account.Ewallet and reserve. Put in a ticket or wait? I see some people auto repurchased.
I think the 10 days must be for withdrawals because I just went ahead and bought a few (edit - from earnings in my ewallet).
It worked without a hitch.
mick97
Jan 26 2012, 07:34 AM
Ok thanks, Did u get %50 reinvest on auto?
averagemom
Jan 26 2012, 08:38 AM
I wish they would just post the information we need right on the front page or upon logging in.
Ex. purchase a tap 1 level position for $16 bucks you get.....(whatever it is you get for that) purchase a tap 2 level position for $32 bucks (something I didn't know) you get......(blah, blah, blah)
Okay, that way we can see where we are heading and our goals to purchase more and how much we plan on making a month.
We can calculate our way into the future.
Also, does each tap give us X amount of advertising credits does it buy us products etc. etc. These should be simply laid out on a page for us to read and decidee.
I know it's all in re-launch mode, but these should have been one of the nitty gritty things placed on the site so we can tell other people what they are truly getting.
that whole plan laid out on the "how it works" page I know there is a video,
but I don't want to waste my time listening to people talk and talk and finally tell me what I'm getting.
A facts page to potential new members will help to Summarize those details that will get people to join.
mick97
Jan 26 2012, 08:55 AM
Heres some round about numbers i have found so far.
By the looks of it,10 taps will give you roughly $25.00 on your first day. 2nd cycle will be 25 plus a little more,which I don't know yet. And cycle 3 will be even a little more.
$2.50 a tap,or 50 cents per inner unit of which there is 5 in each tap. busted_cop.gif
So 20= 150 monthly. 30= 300 monthly,and so on. Thats a start to understanding this a little more. wink.gif
And add whatever the little extra is.
So if you have 7 taps,that equals=$17.50.And taps are 16.00.... Thats enough to buy you one more tap on auto purchase,and $1.50 left in your account.
So the next 10 days,you will have enough with just 6 taps,and it will go down and down from there. And this is just the auto purchase.Not funds you can also use in your account.
As far as auto buy referral cash,I don't know about that yet,or if it even happens. But if they use cash or balance,it should.
alsoranmike
Jan 26 2012, 09:10 AM
QUOTE (averagemom @ Jan 26 2012, 12:38 PM)
I know it's all in re-launch mode, but these should have been one of the nitty gritty things placed on the site so we can tell other people what they are truly getting.
that whole plan laid out on the "how it works" page I know there is a video,
but I don't want to waste my time listening to people talk and talk and finally tell me what I'm getting.
^ Word... I've been asking for the last couple of weeks but finally quit in fear of being labeled a complete whiner.
I also feel the same way regarding the video; Now in my welcome emails I just tell people to skip to the 20 minute mark for the actual nitty-gritty. It's still incomplete, but better than what they had, and at least it doesn't talk about the "founder" deal anymore. That was a big turn-off for prospects.
Still though, it seems as though they are making progress, albeit slowly.
alsoranmike
Jan 26 2012, 09:17 AM
QUOTE (mick97 @ Jan 26 2012, 11:34 AM)
Ok thanks, Did u get %50 reinvest on auto?
No, I only had $15 in my "reserve cycle" thingy and $30 total e-wallet balance.
I'm guessing that if I'd had another buck in the reserve it would've bought one. I'm still in lvl 1.
mick97
Jan 26 2012, 10:31 AM
Ok, Sounds good. So i take it we do not get a buck from our referrals when they auto purchase?
waycal
Jan 26 2012, 11:22 AM
Trying to get you answers here at MMG is not going to get you anywhere in a timely fashion if at all. You need to come into our Skype room where people from admin are there to answer your questions. There are others who are knowledgeable as well and will help you. http://www.skype.com/ and ask Danny @ wealth.4all to put you in the W4All chatroom..you must be a paid member to enter. This is a free service and all you have to do is put Danny's skype username in the search box and add him to your contacts. I don't understand why all of the one's asking questions over and over again don't come in and get your concerns and questions asked..it's really very simple.
Wayne
averagemom
Jan 26 2012, 11:56 AM
Yes, very simple to add to the website too. I don't want to be in skype room.
To much chatting going on. Simple as that.
I am grateful for all they are doing to get things going. I go to the conferences, but sometimes there is not order in it all.
The plan changes on a week to week basis, even though the ultimate goal is to help everyone make money in the end I can understand that.
A simple, easy to read information page would simplify the need to keep explaining the whole process to people
I honestly don't know how to share this with others because it's complicating. But, from what I understand, "will help us make money"
So, I am grateful they are working hard, They are volunteering their time to make this work for all of us.
Again, simply adding a page to the site, without the video is "SIMPLE!"
Just my 2 cents. But, no one really needs to listen. This is a forum after all. And I have a right to speak my thoughts Within the guidelines set by this forum and it's moderators.
It's my "REAL" feelings. That's all. Not complaining, Just making a "Request"
Thank you W4All. Dan is a great man. And so are all his volunteers.......
averagemom
Jan 26 2012, 12:09 PM
QUOTE (mick97 @ Jan 26 2012, 07:55 AM)
Heres some round about numbers i have found so far.
By the looks of it,10 taps will give you roughly $25.00 on your first day. 2nd cycle will be 25 plus a little more,which I don't know yet. And cycle 3 will be even a little more.
Oh and thank you mick97 for giving me such wonderful information, without the need to go to the skype room.
Quick, simple, to the point. And in writing...
4Richer
Jan 26 2012, 12:10 PM
I am very busy offline, so I was only able to listen to half of one of the last recorded conference calls. Personally, I prefer to read information on a website or a forum than to listen to a conference call or participate in a skype room.
mick97
Jan 26 2012, 12:19 PM
QUOTE (averagemom @ Jan 26 2012, 03:09 PM)
Oh and thank you mick97 for giving me such wonderful information, without the need to go to the skype room.
Quick, simple, to the point. And in writing...
LOL, No problem average mom.
waycal
Jan 26 2012, 01:22 PM
Skype post:
ABC's of cycling - you purchase TAPs 10 days later actually on the 11th day at 12:01 am cst your AU positions will cycle and earn you a 50% commission of which is broken into 2 parts 50/50 50% into cycle pay and 50% into cycle bucket if cycle bucket has enough to buy taps it will till money exhausted if not it is available for you to take money from EW to make up difference to buy a tap if you choose cycle pay money maybe used immediately to buy new tap or it sits for 10 days until release to you for w/d when you make new taps purchase after cycles and auto purchasing complete you have 3 sources of funds cycle bucket, cycle pay and your EW. You fund your EW anytime you don't have enough money to buy TAPs and you want to buy now -
Mike Clark Admin
alsoranmike
Jan 26 2012, 01:43 PM
QUOTE (waycal @ Jan 26 2012, 05:22 PM)
Skype post:
ABC's of cycling - you purchase TAPs 10 days later actually on the 11th day at 12:01 am cst your AU positions will cycle and earn you a 50% commission of which is broken into 2 parts 50/50 50% into cycle pay and 50% into cycle bucket if cycle bucket has enough to buy taps it will till money exhausted if not it is available for you to take money from EW to make up difference to buy a tap if you choose cycle pay money maybe used immediately to buy new tap or it sits for 10 days until release to you for w/d when you make new taps purchase after cycles and auto purchasing complete you have 3 sources of funds cycle bucket, cycle pay and your EW. You fund your EW anytime you don't have enough money to buy TAPs and you want to buy now -
Mike Clark Admin
Well good golly! Thanks waycal!! And we didn't even need to go to Skype to get that!
I agree with you also about coming here for info, but you gotta admit it's pretty sad that anyone can now come to mmg and find more information about how W4A works than you can get from the site itself.
I do thank you for the info tho, helps out alot.
waycal
Jan 26 2012, 01:54 PM
QUOTE (alsoranmike @ Jan 26 2012, 03:43 PM)
Well good golly! Thanks waycal!! And we didn't even need to go to Skype to get that!
I agree with you also about coming here for info, but you gotta admit it's pretty sad that anyone can now come to mmg and find more information about how W4A works than you can get from the site itself.
I do thank you for the info tho, helps out alot.
There is a lot going on behind the scenes to get all of the website up to par with all the info needed including a calculator for future projections. Remember this has all been done from scratch and they want it to be right so admin has to have priorities..it shouldn't be much longer and all of the info will be readily available on the website. For me I'm just grateful that W4All has been created.. my financial future with W4All is SECURED!!! and all those who take part will do well too.
Wayne
averagemom
Jan 26 2012, 08:52 PM
Great! I'm happy. That's all I needed to hear.
Now I can figure out how much more to ad to my account, And be truly excited to tell others about it 'cause i can send them here to get info.....
Did you know that MMG website can rank on google really fast?
Hence, the reason it's important to put stuff here because people are going to find your business and program through MMG being on the first page of google (sometimes second, but most times first).
It's a PR4 you know. Notice, if you type any of the cyclers, hyip's that are not super new, it will be on the front page because of MMG
That's one good reason you should post here AND......link back to your site.
Just a little link building advice to you....
ISPY
Jan 26 2012, 10:40 PM
QUOTE (waycal @ Jan 26 2012, 01:54 PM)
There is a lot going on behind the scenes to get all of the website up to par with all the info needed including a calculator for future projections. Remember this has all been done from scratch and they want it to be right so admin has to have priorities..it shouldn't be much longer and all of the info will be readily available on the website. For me I'm just grateful that W4All has been created.. my financial future with W4All is SECURED!!! and all those who take part will do well too.
Wayne
I like some things about this program, but let me ask: If, as someone else told me on this thread, this program has no outside income, how can your financial future be secured with only other members' money?
I think it's important not to overstate things; doing so might lead others astray.
waycal
Jan 27 2012, 05:29 AM
QUOTE (ISPY @ Jan 27 2012, 12:40 AM)
I like some things about this program, but let me ask: If, as someone else told me on this thread, this program has no outside income, how can your financial future be secured with only other members' money?
I think it's important not to overstate things; doing so might lead others astray.
I've been with W4All since day one and I stand by that statement because I've seen the commitment by the owner Danny Cianciulli and his staff of at least 19 who are ALL VOLUNTEERS. They make their money the same way I will be doing and every other members does..they are NOT compensated for the hundreds if not thousands of hours putting this one of a kind program together. The comp plan is based on a corporate business model that is so complicated that a special software program had to be developed specifically for W4All. Danny has assembled some of the smartest people from around the world with backgrounds in corporate business, marketing, religion, contractors, business owners and others all successful in their own right plus one of the best programmers ever Keith Nelson who has put this all together and made the relaunch run smooth as silk. While it's always good to have fresh money this business model is designed to be self sustaining but there is no worrying about that because more and more people are coming in everyday and members are purchasing AU's everyday and with the 50% auto repurchase of AU's every 10 days WITHOUT FAIL W4All is going to be around for a long long time. One last thing that is most comforting is that W4All has been incorporated and complies with all the legal requirements. Everyone can make up their own mind about W4All but for me my mind is made up. What makes this so special for me is Danny Cianciulli..if you spend any time listening to him on the conference calls you realize that he is very unique in his selfishness in devoting his time and talent to making sure that the members of W4All are taken care of no matter what is takes, His passion for helping people is truly remarkable and so infectious that people from all over the world are willing to join with him and put their expertise and talents together to make the lives of people everywhere a little better.
Wayne
mick97
Jan 27 2012, 12:57 PM
Is TAP-2.1 more costly than 16 bucks? I thought they were all 16 bucks a piece.
jefbru
Jan 27 2012, 01:06 PM
QUOTE (mick97 @ Jan 27 2012, 12:57 PM)
Is TAP-2.1 more costly than 16 bucks? I thought they were all 16 bucks a piece.
AU's (Advertising Units)
TAP 1 - 5 AU's = $16 Each TAP 2 - 8 AU's = $32 Each TAP 3 - 16 AU's = $64 Each TAP 4 - 32 AU's = $128 Each TAP 5 - 48 AU's = $192 Each
gbowebmaster
Jan 27 2012, 01:17 PM
I love this program
jieroz
Jan 28 2012, 02:24 AM
added more TAPS, i'm at TAP 3.1 now...
happyrhino
Jan 28 2012, 03:12 AM
QUOTE (jieroz @ Jan 28 2012, 02:24 AM)
added more TAPS, i'm at TAP 3.1 now...
Very nice!!!
BlondebyChoice
Jan 28 2012, 03:53 AM
QUOTE (jieroz @ Jan 28 2012, 06:24 AM)
added more TAPS, i'm at TAP 3.1 now...
Great Job!!! Welcome to the TAP 3's.. I bought TAP 3.8 yesterday..
BlondebyChoice
BlondebyChoice
Jan 28 2012, 03:57 AM
Just a reminder, it's conference call and training webinar day..
Please join us for the Wealth4All TEAM Conference.
Tuesday 8 PM EST Saturday 2 PM EST Saturday 3 PM EST Training webinar
I sent in some marketing material to be approved and it was done within minutes!
Couldn't believe it.
I don't usually do much promoting.... just a banner or two here and there.
But this one I'm going to promote.
From what I've seen so far the admin's are honest, hardworking, responsive and all are volunteers and are earning just like us....
When's the last time a program didn't perform as expected and you got your spend back?
It happened with w4a...
They refunded, revamped and relaunched!
I'm EXCITED!
Don't miss out!
whwarner
Jan 28 2012, 06:11 AM
QUOTE (longfellaz @ Jan 28 2012, 09:33 AM)
I sent in some marketing material to be approved and it was done within minutes!
Couldn't believe it.
I don't usually do much promoting.... just a banner or two here and there.
But this one I'm going to promote.
From what I've seen so far the admin's are honest, hardworking, responsive and all are volunteers and are earning just like us....
When's the last time a program didn't perform as expected and you got your spend back?
It happened with w4a...
They refunded, revamped and relaunched!
I'm EXCITED!
Don't miss out!
Everyone you said is true Wealth4all will be here for long time
mick97
Jan 28 2012, 06:22 AM
Bought some more taps. Up to 2.1 now
Has some taps cycle as well. I think this one will b around for quite some time. Possibly pass up a similar program Im in as well.But with this one you get training and advertising
happyrhino
Jan 28 2012, 08:01 AM
QUOTE (mick97 @ Jan 28 2012, 06:22 AM)
Bought some more taps. Up to 2.1 now
Has some taps cycle as well. I think this one will b around for quite some time. Possibly pass up a similar program Im in as well.But with this one you get training and advertising
Good job! I bought 4 more Taps today...up to 2.4! I'm also in another passive income program. I've made good money there...but this has all the signs of providing it's members with a more stable & sustainable income!
waycal
Jan 28 2012, 09:14 AM
Keep in mind folks that there are no downlines to build and no matrices to deal with. Anyone at any time can come in with up to $750 per 10 day cycle and jump ahead of someone who has been here from the beginning. You see that means that you can come in at anytime today, next week, next month, next year(Can't wait for a year from now.. will be repurchasing 100% for at least 6 to 8 months!) it doesn't matter. If you have a program that's working like me I'm taking all of the monies out of those programs and putting all of it here.
Wayne
jieroz
Jan 28 2012, 10:55 PM
cycled TAP 1.6 today... More to come!!!
solstar
Jan 28 2012, 11:23 PM
Say I bought $320 or 20 taps. how much of the $320 would be available to withdraw in 30 days? What is the total roi after a tap matures? for instance jbp pays 50% roi in 75 days. My current favorite ponzi is uxp, it pays 100% roi in 100 days..what % does this pay and how many days before a tap retires?
NathanHoo
Jan 29 2012, 01:26 AM
QUOTE (solstar @ Jan 29 2012, 02:23 PM)
Say I bought $320 or 20 taps. how much of the $320 would be available to withdraw in 30 days? What is the total roi after a tap matures? for instance jbp pays 50% roi in 75 days. My current favorite ponzi is uxp, it pays 100% roi in 100 days..what % does this pay and how many days before a tap retires?
Hello solstar glad to see you here i send you an email
ISPY
Jan 29 2012, 01:42 AM
QUOTE (solstar @ Jan 28 2012, 11:23 PM)
Say I bought $320 or 20 taps. how much of the $320 would be available to withdraw in 30 days? What is the total roi after a tap matures? for instance jbp pays 50% roi in 75 days. My current favorite ponzi is uxp, it pays 100% roi in 100 days..what % does this pay and how many days before a tap retires?
Yes, it would be nice to see someone post this here, so those contemplating joining could know what to expect.
happyrhino
Jan 29 2012, 01:46 AM
These questions should be asked on the W4All conference call!
ISPY
Jan 29 2012, 01:52 AM
QUOTE (waycal @ Jan 27 2012, 05:29 AM)
I've been with W4All since day one and I stand by that statement because I've seen the commitment by the owner Danny Cianciulli and his staff of at least 19 who are ALL VOLUNTEERS. They make their money the same way I will be doing and every other members does..they are NOT compensated for the hundreds if not thousands of hours putting this one of a kind program together. The comp plan is based on a corporate business model that is so complicated that a special software program had to be developed specifically for W4All. Danny has assembled some of the smartest people from around the world with backgrounds in corporate business, marketing, religion, contractors, business owners and others all successful in their own right plus one of the best programmers ever Keith Nelson who has put this all together and made the relaunch run smooth as silk. While it's always good to have fresh money this business model is designed to be self sustaining but there is no worrying about that because more and more people are coming in everyday and members are purchasing AU's everyday and with the 50% auto repurchase of AU's every 10 days WITHOUT FAIL W4All is going to be around for a long long time. One last thing that is most comforting is that W4All has been incorporated and complies with all the legal requirements. Everyone can make up their own mind about W4All but for me my mind is made up. What makes this so special for me is Danny Cianciulli..if you spend any time listening to him on the conference calls you realize that he is very unique in his selfishness in devoting his time and talent to making sure that the members of W4All are taken care of no matter what is takes, His passion for helping people is truly remarkable and so infectious that people from all over the world are willing to join with him and put their expertise and talents together to make the lives of people everywhere a little better.
Wayne
Thank you for your post. I can see that you are indeed sincere about your belief in this admin and program, and I hope you are right.
I don't like the 50/50 rule, though; to me, it's a sham and just says that a program is not legitimate enough and sustainable enough to pay out without holding members' earnings hostage. Don't mean to be harsh, but how would you feel if you went to get your paycheck at your real job, and they told you that you could only have 50% of it because they were holding the other 50% to help make sure they could pay you next time?!
I remember another owner and program I trusted: Steve Ray Smith and Ad-ventures4u. He had a 50/50 rule, too -- not at first, I believe, but then he implemented it, and that should have told me something right there. I talked with him on the phone several times, and he seemed very honest and caring. He was open and transparent, not hiding who he was or where he was. Well, guess what? Good ol' honest Steve has still got $1500 of mine.
I've got lots of stories like this. I've been around this industry for many years; I've seen and heard it all. So, there's no wonder I'm skeptical.
topguns
Jan 29 2012, 02:58 AM
I think 50/50 rule here is for the self sustaining of the program. EX-When you purchase 1.1 TAP,you get 5 AU's \positions/.For each cycle until the 6th cycle,these positions give 1 dollar each.So on cycling the first time you get 5 dollars and the same for 2nd,3rd and4th cycle 5 dollars each.A 16 dollar TAP cannot keep on paying until it expires.If it has to pay,money has to come from somewhere else.So after the 4th cycle,TAP 1.2 is purchased by the system.Now the system has 32 dollars and keeps on repurchasing by the 50/50 rule .What i'm trying to say is the system also needs money to payout.Hope you understood.
QUOTE (ISPY @ Jan 29 2012, 01:52 AM)
Thank you for your post. I can see that you are indeed sincere about your belief in this admin and program, and I hope you are right.
I don't like the 50/50 rule, though; to me, it's a sham and just says that a program is not legitimate enough and sustainable enough to pay out without holding members' earnings hostage. Don't mean to be harsh, but how would you feel if you went to get your paycheck at your real job, and they told you that you could only have 50% of it because they were holding the other 50% to help make sure they could pay you next time?!
I remember another owner and program I trusted: Steve Ray Smith and Ad-ventures4u. He had a 50/50 rule, too -- not at first, I believe, but then he implemented it, and that should have told me something right there. I talked with him on the phone several times, and he seemed very honest and caring. He was open and transparent, not hiding who he was or where he was. Well, guess what? Good ol' honest Steve has still got $1500 of mine.
I've got lots of stories like this. I've been around this industry for many years; I've seen and heard it all. So, there's no wonder I'm skeptical.
solstar
Jan 29 2012, 03:28 AM
QUOTE (NathanHoo @ Jan 29 2012, 01:26 AM)
Hello solstar glad to see you here i send you an email
Hello NathanHoo. I will go check for your e-mail.
solstar
Jan 29 2012, 04:32 AM
QUOTE (solstar @ Jan 29 2012, 12:23 AM)
Say I bought $320 or 20 taps. how much of the $320 would be available to withdraw in 30 days? What is the total roi after a tap matures? for instance jbp pays 50% roi in 75 days. My current favorite ponzi is uxp, it pays 100% roi in 100 days..what % does this pay and how many days before a tap retires?
Ok, I have my answer.."earnings will fluctuate between about 1 to 3% per day"
My goodness..that is Huge!! But how long can they maintain it without a real product to back it up?
BlondebyChoice
Jan 29 2012, 04:48 AM
QUOTE (solstar @ Jan 29 2012, 07:32 AM)
Ok, I have my answer.."earnings will fluctuate between about 1 to 3% per day"
My goodness..that is Huge!! But how long can they maintain it without a real product to back it up?
The product is advertising and training for your business..
sniperz
Jan 29 2012, 05:17 AM
I had bought 2 TAPS on 19th Jan which still haven't cycled. I thought they will cycle every 10 days?Or Am I wrong?
If anyone correct me here?
mick97
Jan 29 2012, 05:28 AM
Every 10 days to cycle. You should cycle sometime today.
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