Any one want to have a peep at your STP account, use this link

https://solidtrustpay.com/?a=deposit&

(Found it on one of the hyip monitor sites)

This page will take you to a Deposit page.

But Do not click the “Account Overview”, that will freeze the page…

Well as you know our attorney will not and can not give out information about W4A he can not because of Client attorney confidentiality. Some states not all want to know who is doing business in their states so some states require it. SEC has nothing to do with companies that sale products we are not an investment program.

I'm sorry, but that just won't do. If a company is really legally compliant, it will be transparent. So this registration you're talking about apparently has nothing to do with legal compliance. Just being registered as a business entity in a state says nothing about legality.

Every company that I have ever seen online has stated that is does not have to be registered with the SEC for the reasons you just stated. However, that is simply not the case, as the SEC has proven time and time again with these online programs, regardless of any disclaimer on their sites. If a program falls under the Howey Test definition, it must be registered with the SEC. If the W4A lawyer does not know this, then he is about as competent as Trevor Reed's CEP lawyer -- and we know what happened there.

So, I am considerably less confident now than I was before I read your latest post.

All I can tell you is we are registered with all we need to be in the US nothing else I can say.
We are not an investment we have products and we are adding more soon if you doubt W4A just do not join.

As I have said we do not have to do anything with the SEC.

Technically, commissions are driven by personal performance; therefore, it's not a security.

This is from our Attorney and I quote:
"No, there's no need to register with the SEC. Only if you're a publicly traded company selling stock on the stock exchange".

Well, what you said is wrong, and your attorney is completely wrong. What he said is absolutely NOT TRUE!! If this is who W4A is relying on for legal advice, then the company is treading on dangerous ground because the guy is obviously incompetent.

I am a member of W4A. I have a right to know if the company is legitimate, sustainable, and legally compliant. I still don't have that information.

Well, what you said is wrong, and your attorney is completely wrong. What he said is absolutely NOT TRUE!! If this is who W4A is relying on for legal advice, then the company is treading on dangerous ground because the guy is obviously incompetent. Someone should ask him if he knows what the term "Howey Test" means.

I am a member of W4A. I have a right to know if the company is legitimate, sustainable, and legally compliant. I still don't have that information.

Well, what you said is wrong, and your attorney is completely wrong. What he said is absolutely NOT TRUE!! If this is who W4A is relying on for legal advice, then the company is treading on dangerous ground because the guy is obviously incompetent. Someone should ask him if he knows what the term "Howey Test" means.

I am a member of W4A. I have a right to know if the company is legitimate, sustainable, and legally compliant. I still don't have that information.

How do you know that W4A lawyer is completely wrong.... are you a lawyer?... have you asked a lawyer about this specific business? Do you know for 100% that W4A lawyer is incorrect?... are you 100% sure the person or lawyer you asked about this is correct? There is ALOT of I dont knows here.. perhaps if we had a lawyer or someone that specializes in this field and is a member of this forum contribute to this conversation and set things straight

Just to let everyone know

....it took me about 5 months to go from TAP 1.1 to TAP 5.12

....from TAp 5.12 to Tap 10.1 which I reached today it was only 4 weeks!!! FANTASTIC Thanks Wealth4all!!!

I started with only 1 TAP my first month. After 4 cycles(10 days each, I was able to buy my second TAP. When I saw that I really was getting paid every 10 days, I bought more TAPs. Now I am up to 5.3 and wishing I had started with more TAPs. Here is an example of what occurs after the first 10-day cycle when you buy all 5 TAP Series based on the tab at the website "How It Works"

TAP 1 Series (1.1-1.12) = ($16 x 12) = $192
TAP 2 Series (2.1-2.12) = ($32 x 12) = $384
TAP 3 Series (3.1-3.12) = ($64 x 12) = $768
TAP 4 Series (4.1-4.12) = ($128 x 12) = $1536
TAP 5 Series (5.1-5.12) = ($192 x 12) = $2304
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TOTAL= $5,184

In 10 days, you would receive this:

TAP 1 Series 12 x $ 4.50 = $ 54.00
TAP 2 Series 12 x $ 7.20 = $ 86.40
TAP 3 Series 12 x $14.40 = $172.80
TAP 4 Series 12 x $28.80 = $345.60
TAP 5 Series 12 x $43.20 = $518.40
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TOTAL = $1177.20

50% CAN BE WITHDRAWN = $588.60
50% GOES INTO CYCLE BUCKET = $588.60
This will purchase another TAP 1 and TAP 2 Series with $12.60 left in CYCLE BUCKET

I think that $588.60 is an awesome return for 10 days. Won't get that anywhere else you put your money.

Hope that gives you an idea of how it works.

Thanks for explanation but I just couldnt catch it...
TAP 1.1 costs $16
TAP 1.2 costs $16
TAP 1.3 costs $16
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TAP 1.12 costs $16
Right?
So I pay 12x$16=$192 and I get $54?? Not a good business...But I'm sure this is not the case!

Thanks for explanation but I just couldnt catch it...
TAP 1.1 costs $16
TAP 1.2 costs $16
TAP 1.3 costs $16
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TAP 1.12 costs $16
Right?
So I pay 12x$16=$192 and I get $54?? Not a good business...But I'm sure this is not the case!

Or this $54 repeats 6x and then 6x$27?
So during 120 days I earn from $192 $486?

That $54 is after one cycle (10 days). TAP 1.1-1.12 would continue to pay $54 every 10 days for the first 6 cycles, then pay 50%, or $27 for the last 6 cycles.

Can you please tell us if you have withdrawn your seed money and if you have been at 50% or 100% on your TAP repurchase setting? This would give us a better idea of how it works. Thanks

Well we will not give out all the details of our program to many copy cats.
We have nothing to do with real estate investments either.

Have you ever heard of the the 'Howey' test?

If you want to raise money from private investors to fund real estate investments, you should know what the Howey test is and what it means to you.
Read more:


Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/3509783

If you are not comfortable with being a member PM me and I will get you a refund minus any commissions.

How do you know that W4A lawyer is completely wrong.... are you a lawyer?... have you asked a lawyer about this specific business? Do you know for 100% that W4A lawyer is incorrect?... are you 100% sure the person or lawyer you asked about this is correct? There is ALOT of I dont knows here.. perhaps if we had a lawyer or someone that specializes in this field and is a member of this forum contribute to this conversation and set things straight

I'm 100% sure that I'm correct.

If anyone doubts it, call the SEC. But don't mention this program if you want it to keep going and have a chance to become compliant.

I'm not trying to harm the program; I want it to be out of reach of the SEC.

One more question:

Where does the profit come from? I mean,only the new members' money come in??

Our profit comes from the sales of Taps and advertising we do not need new members to pay commissions as long as sales are being made.

Thanks! And what if when no more sales are being made?

One more question:

Where does the profit come from? I mean,only the new members' money come in??

I know exactly what the Howey Test is. It's what the SEC uses to determine if something is a security or not. It is definitely not confined to real estate investments. Using it, the SEC brought down CEP, 12DP, ASD, Global Online (they had whole warehouses full of products and a retired judge as an owner/admin), and many others. So, yes, I am thoroughly acquainted with the Howey Test. Too bad the the W4A lawyer apparently is not.

I'll stay in for a while longer. Who knows, maybe Danny will wise up, fire Thompson, and get a lawyer who has a clue.

omar, I hope you make money here. You are one of the good people on this forum.

Great Job Don!!!..

Diane

Working for me now just fine I just now purchased 5.12 5.12 1024 active AU's

Well what if people stop going to buy Coke or Pepsi..................................

Not the same category but I understand!

I'd like to start this program but one of my friends said that JBP is a great one as well.
What do you suggest?Which one to start?Which one is better?

Not going to put a program down but of course we think W4A is better...............

I'd like to start this program but one of my friends said that JBP is a great one as well.
What do you suggest?Which one to start?Which one is better?

Not going to put a program down but of course we think W4A is better...............

I'd like to start this program but one of my friends said that JBP is a great one as well.
What do you suggest?Which one to start?Which one is better?

Noone has a crystal ball

I know exactly what the Howey Test is. It's what the SEC uses to determine if something is a security or not. It is definitely not confined to real estate investments. Using it, the SEC brought down CEP, 12DP, ASD, Global Online (they had whole warehouses full of products and a retired judge as an owner/admin), and many others. So, yes, I am thoroughly acquainted with the Howey Test. Too bad the the W4A lawyer apparently is not.

I'll stay in for a while longer. Who knows, maybe Danny will wise up, fire Thompson, and get a lawyer who has a clue.

Well I am done trying to answer you on this I am 100% sure you are wrong so we are just going back a forth.

If you Google our Attorney you will see that he is the Top MLM attorney in the US I will take his word before anyone else.

Our profit comes from the sales of Taps and advertising we do not need new members to pay commissions as long as sales are being made.

I can see duckone point of view but i also see your concerns as well. Maybe this new "Genesis" they are implementing will seal the deal