It always amazes me how quick you are to jump to unfounded speculations. So, if more than half of the members who signed up for it are not finding it appealing, than why did only 2% opt out? You make no sense. Even if some didn't get the "MEMO". There was only 58 people. You really know how to pick your words.

I'm referring to the numbers that were originally posted on this board of how many members joined back when T2 1st started, which I believe it was close to 10,000 at the time the restart happened and people lost 40% of their positions. Then it was posted that the registration would be closed when 5,000 active members were reached, then later that was changed to April 1st. (which I guess it will be closed on that date whether there are 5,000 active members or not.)

Then a number was posted which seemed to imply that there were really only about 2,000 or so people active. Then after the tasks were added, it was stated that there were 1400 of the 2,000 or so who didn't do any tasks. And that would seem to me like out of the 2,000 or so that are active (meaning they purchased DPs) that only 1/2 are participating by doing the tasks. So, those numbers are what I base my statement on. And now the fact that Dave is starting another site that won't require tasks or have a membership fee and pays 3 levels deep, tells me that he MAY HAVE realized that more people are drawn to a site of this nature than the setup of T2.

It always AMAZES ME, how you have no COMPREHENSION skills and always READ something different into many posts that are left on here. So, anyway, WHATEVER. Everything I just posted can be found further up in this thread to support what I am saying.

ETA - Also, there are other people who have posted on here that they feel the same way I do. So, why is it you feel the need to always jump all over me???!!! I don't jump all over you when you post. I let you say what you have to say. Last I checked THIS BOARD is a board where we can feel free to say what we WANT about any program without any repercussions. So there.

There was no guaranteed time frame written or any time frame when he gave the option for a refund. It was not till his recent update that he said he would start to process them soon.

Sure, the compound150 will definitely cater to a lot of people. Because, there are no tasks, no fees, no subscription, and a great referral compensation plan. But, you also don't have any exact figures of those that did not complete their tasks. Those numbers were given a while ago. I don't even know that number since he sent them a reminder. Many hadn't upgraded because of what had gone on in the start. It was not that the program was not a great concept. Those circumstances had fallen in his lap.

Anyway, I see a lot of happy members, and they are VERY excited about Dave's programs. Because, they are great programs, and he will continue to make successful programs over and over and over again, because he is dedicated and has a GREAT vision. What you are seeing now is only the TIP of the Iceberg of What is about to come. And it is FAR bigger than you can all imagine.

Just to add ladym, I also, have every right to post here as you do. You also don't have to like what I have to say. Whether I think something is correct or incorrect, I have every right to state my opinion without being accused of stopping you, from stating yours.

In the right direction being "imploded ponzi" Stros?

Moved funds to main account getting ready for a new month fees!

I will pay the fees using my daily %

So moving away from the "ponzi" means that you now say this is a ponzi. Thanks for that Lola but it's what I've been saying all along.
Nice to see after all this time that we are at last on the same page

And so far I see little to no effort from admin to move away from being a ponzi. In fact I see him move closer to remaining a ponzi through the introduction of a feeder site(compound150).
All he's done so far is register a bunch of domain names and used members money to do it. So far these domains have produced little to no income.
And what if T2 closes up shop. Does admin just walk away with the domains? What's to stop him from doing so?

monthly fee will be deducted on 1st april? right

Yes the fee balance will be added to your Main Account.
You can choose to pay whenever you feel like doing so.

Good try Yallit, but you are very wrong.

Maybe you would be kind enough to allocate 24 hours work to do them by hand for me.

80% of those opted out have less than 5 DPs, and most have already withdrawn a lot of their money. We don't owe the opt outs much.

Mark is meant to write a script that would take less than an hour to do, so that it quantifies the entire payouts.

I put Mark on getting this launch ready as a priority as well as the support for T2 that takes a lot of his time up.

Its all about priorities, and that is for those who are remaining and those who can't do tasks and want a program that they don't need to do them.

Opt out payments are coming soon, but people need to be patient for there few bucks.

@ladyM12 everyone knows how much you pumped JBP despite everyone having a go at it because tens of thousands are regularly left out of pocket.

I was ignored for weeks when I asked for a refund from them, I spent 2 days building up a file on what I was going to do to them if they did not refund me and my family. They were clearly lying constantly, I had a list of all the untruths they came out with, and back-tracks and broken promises and broken deadlines.

Nobody offered me the refund, i had to FORCE it out of them.

At least i have offered one and at least I have addressed the issue of the now 1350 members who have not done a single task who now stand to lose money.

Am I such a demon????

isn't it strange how most of the JBP cheerleaders are the ones here pouring out most of the negative BS

How about i got all the T2 and C150 members to go and do the same in the JBP thread?

Why are you taking someone's own personal belief and laying it down as a fact?

As far as this program goes, Yallit has absolutely zero qualifications.

Go back to RS where people value your opinion.

Support is online. Server must have gone offline temporarily.

It happens.

MY POINT IS PROVEN. NO COMPREHENSION SKILLS OR SELECTIVE READING FROM YOU. I stated that in a previous post that you have a right to say what you want. I never said that you didn't. I don't say anything about what you post on here or you not having the right to do so. I only respond to YOU LOLA, when you quote things I have said and choose to respond to my postings, which is what I am doing now. GET OVER IT!!! You CANNOT nor will you EVER be able to control what members can post on here about T2 or Compound 150 or any other program. We have freedom of speech here and can VOICE our OPINIONS or FEELINGS FREELY (key word), so GET USED TO IT!!!!!!!!!

FIRST of all DAVE, I haven't been a cheerleader of JBP in I don't know how long. Yes, I PUMPED it up in the beginning, but after 2 restarts I wasn't too thrilled with them or promoting the site to others, so I don't even promote the site anymore. It's not in any of my sigs on here, so just to set the record straight on that. If you visit the JBP forum, you'll see me voice a lot of distress about that program over there. I believe in giving praise when it's due, but if something happens that I don't agree with it, I give it equal billing as well.

Thank you for enlightening me about your ordeal in getting your money back from them. I had to deal with a lot of disgruntled downline over restarts there, so that's why I'm not an advocate of the program anymore. I earn there and that's it. So, the record has been straightened out on both matters. I don't have any gripes with you, so let's just leave it at that.

What are you talking about?

There you go again accusing me of stopping you from voicing your opinions, and feelings, because you don't like what I have to say? Maybe you need to GET USED TO IT!

Tasks Finished: 61
Tasks need to Finish this month: 70

No more Unfinished Tasks available as of now... with only few hours remaining for the month to end... how can I complete 70 tasks? What happens if 70 tasks are not finished before the end of month?

you can do more than one task in each site.

Greg

Oh ok. I will just wait for my refund of a few silly dollars ($170)

Thanks a lot Greg

You are almost done, Vivek! Hang in there.

It wouldn't matter what he told you, showed you, demonstrated, or proven... Your mission is always to say it is a "ponzi". You have been saying it forever, and you will not stop saying ever. Because, you don't want to be proven wrong, or see him do anything that moves away from a ponzi. Every step he takes to advance in his program or effort he puts into it, just makes you more resistant in wanting to see it...Maybe you should call your momma, and ask her to teach you to give credit when credit is due. Because, whether I believe it is or not, doesn't matter if he is the only one that would really know. So what if he introduces a feeder site, or 10 feeder sites, what difference does that make to you? It is another source of revenue into his main program. Since when is that a problem, when so many sites fail, and so many people lose so much money. Why don't you go pick on a program that is likely to burn and crash in a few days or week or month. Why don't you go pick on an admin that has scammed so many people, and continues to scam. Why do you insist on coming over here, to the one program that is obviously making some kind of effort to generate sources of income to bash it, and insult it and its members.. Does it make you feel good, or give you some kind of sick pleasure in doing this or is it cause you don't want to see T2 be anything but a ponzi... It would hurt your feelings too much now.

AGAIN NO COMPREHENSION SKILLS!!!!!!!!

Trust me I'm USED to you dear, but I am TIRED of having to explain everything to you, so I'll STOP now. That's my whole point is that it is YOU who has a problem with what people say on here and you prove that when you respond to posts that are made that YOU DON"T LIKE. As I stated before, I only respond to you when you have something to say about something I posted. I very rarely respond to your posts.

I don't CARE what you or anyone else has to say about this program or any other program, as I understand that people are entitled to say what they feel on MMG. The problem is you always like to have the LAST word, so I'll let you have it, as I'm sure you'll respond to this post. And if you don't it will only be because you want to prove me WRONG.

Oh, my, "mission to say it's a ponzi"...,! By way of analogy, if you see a fire truck, do you call it a bus? You (collectively) state that T2 "moving away from being a ponzi" which implies that it IS a ponzi. The end result is that IF you actually reach the non-ponzi point, then you merely become an illegal investment, but at least there would be money other than member funds for payouts.

The forum should be used as a place for discussion on the program. I question if sometimes this is misused to bicker and stray from the program's discussion. You know you can use the PM feature.

Admin's explanation

Q: You said earlier that this is not a ponzi scheme, can you explain what makes T2 different from a ponzi?

A: Sure... A ponzi scheme is illegal in most countries. It relies solely on paying out members with the system cash brought in from other members. A bit like robbing Peter to pay Paul. Ponzis do not have any other source of income, and always break down once they can't cover payouts any longer, but more often than enough, the admins will run off with the cash as soon as they see it starting to stall.

What makes us different is that we have many income sources. Even at the launch of the program, we will already have in place a minimum of six cash streams. All this income is what keeps us a mile away from being a ponzi. That is why we know we can run to infinity.

Good point. I guess it's much more fun to put the dirty knickers on public display...!

I agree YourBallyhoo and I apologize to everyone for my part in it turning into a bicker, but that was NEVER my intention.

I have never heard it described that way before. I guess it's the same as airing your dirty laundry in public??!!!!!!

I know , but I'm trying to lighten the mood in here. Thanks for the laugh laidback.

Anyway, I am done talking to you guys. You make NO sense. How would I know, if I am not the admin what he is generating or bringing into the program. Same goes for you. You can't prove anything either way. You do not have access to that information, and therefore are in complete speculation.

No point in this post. No point in trying to twist my words, and imply anything. I am only able to see the efforts he is making in trying to generate additional income. I do not make assumptions without proof, or try to question the integrity of someone who is obviously trying to do something better. But, if you want to continue to fight this program based on your own opinons, speculations, and assumptions, that is your own choice. Just like it is the choice of those who wish to participate, and put their own trust in Dave.

Hey, well at least everyone is laughing now.

Onward with the discussions!

So, what is the problem here now? AGAIN, you accuse me of stopping you from saying what you have to say. I can respond to whatever post I wish, it is YOU that has a problem when people don't agree with you. Yes, I respond to comments I don't like, but the majority is spent helping others. This is really getting old laym12.

If you don't want people to respond to your posts, and it gets you all "bent out of shape" when they have a different opinion than you, then maybe you should just start your own blog, and blog away endlessly, and not allow any comments.

I think I will start a forum based on arguments.

One section will be for intellectual debate. the other will be for flat out insults.

Any takers?

How about one just looking for poop to stir?

Oh wait... we already have one.

Nvm, carry on without me poopseekers.

I'm laughing, this thread always gives me something to read.

Honestly though, we members should be concentrating on trying
to keep C150 on page 1 of the HYIP section.

The forum idea would never work, Dave. For the small percentage that like that sort of thing, it's more about being right in front of the world to see... not some corner arena. Oh, to bring back a little old school grace and quietly accept that we will not always agree.

I'm sorry to bring this post back again. I know its all cool here.

I completely disagree to the statement I marked in bold.
I never lost even a single cent during the reset performed by Dave.
Even the subscription fees I paid with my AP was added to the calculations.

I just wanted to know, how any member can say that he lost 40% of his positions.

@Dave.

I think I'll definitely visit it daily to give myself a healthy laughing session.

My next payout:

You have just received $50.00 into your SolidTrust Pay account via Member API

Transaction ID: 2703815XX

Member Name: jsstripler2

Email: t2payouts@gmail.com

I'm making money again and again in T2.

Greg

You would be excellent at the latter, do you have any creds for the former...?? (Durn, just couldn't let that straight line go...!)

Payment Received over here :

Payment received:



THANKS

Sure, as long as I can contribute to both sections.

Reading comprehension is not one of your strong suits is it. I said "IF" what Yallit said was true, he gave the classic definition of a Ponzi, which is a fact. I also said that "YOU" have said that your program is not a Ponzi, and "YOU" could explain what is happening. I was not taking Yallit's personal belief as fact, but what he described is the definition of a Ponzi which is a fact. For someone who claims they are so brilliant, you sure don't walk the talk.

For someone who claims they are so busy, and sick; you might want to spend more time on getting those who have requested a refund paid instead of hanging out in the JBP thread so much.

We can be tag team partners Ispy...LOL!

Okay!

lol... I was joking

I know that. LOL

No you didn't....lol

What may seem intellectual to one, can often just be insulting to another. Doesn't matter how you word it. Some people just don't like what you have to say, regardless of how you say it. Because, frankly, they just don't want to hear it.

Well amidst all the drama here,finally completed my month's task ,so another month of 2% earnings for me lol