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multimastery
Is pagerank important to you - or is it just a crock? Me...I really don't put too much value on pagerank these days. I seen too much crap with higher PR and a lot of quality pages with lower PR...so I really don't know what to think about this. Plus I've seen some sites with lower pagerank outrank some higher PR sites in the SERPs. And another thing is that Google took so long to update the last PR that I wonder how important it really is to them. So for me I really to think about pagerank too much; it's just an unreliable judgement to me. How about you?
johnywalter
I don't really check my website and it's pages page rank anymore. I don't really see it as something that is that much of a "factor" to anything lately. I mean whenever I check out my competitors and my own ranking, sometimes some of my pages or other competitors pages are ranking better than those pages that has PR. I think there has been some article that it is not that much important anymore but well still have to see. I'll observe the websites in the next few days and lets see the effect of PR.
pingmonkey
Personally, I think they're there only as Bragging Rights for Webmasters. Like when they hang out in real life and they go, "Hey what's your blog's PR?". Then the other with a high-trafficked site will go on with his PR bragging speech. Sort of something like that.

But in a more serious term, PR is an important factor in offsite SEO. Because if you'll notice in different SEO-inclined sites like a backlink checker perhaps, they advertise getting a backlink on a site with PR7 or so sites. That in and of itself is already a testament to the importance of PR.
johnywalter
QUOTE (pingmonkey @ Jul 27 2011, 02:28 PM) *
Personally, I think they're there only as Bragging Rights for Webmasters. Like when they hang out in real life and they go, "Hey what's your blog's PR?". Then the other with a high-trafficked site will go on with his PR bragging speech. Sort of something like that.

But in a more serious term, PR is an important factor in offsite SEO. Because if you'll notice in different SEO-inclined sites like a backlink checker perhaps, they advertise getting a backlink on a site with PR7 or so sites. That in and of itself is already a testament to the importance of PR.



There was a time when people actually considered to look at it that way. But then again, interms of the bragging rights, people or SEO can always say "how much does your site earn?". then PR would be so irrelevant. interms of the services that some SEO offer regarding links from high PR websites, it does seem enticing and I have to say that at some point in the past, I was kinda interested in availing some of those services. Then, news came out that PR is not that important anymore, since by observation it has been true, why still avail those service?
multimastery
Yeah a lot of people do use it for bragging rights...but I'd rather brag about income! Gimme a website with no page rank that makes me plenty of profit over a high PR site any day.
kobamod
QUOTE (multimastery @ Jul 27 2011, 07:13 PM) *
Yeah a lot of people do use it for bragging rights...but I'd rather brag about income! Gimme a website with no page rank that makes me plenty of profit over a high PR site any day.


It'd be weird to say that PR is *not* important, but if you're not making the dough, then what's the big deal about PR? I think the jury is out on this one and it's pretty much a one way decision: PR is bunk.
movies
The position in the search engine has little effect
multimastery
QUOTE (movies @ Jul 31 2011, 06:33 AM) *
The position in the search engine has little effect


This thread is about Pagerank, not search engine rankings. Those are two different things.
kobamod
QUOTE (multimastery @ Jul 31 2011, 03:35 PM) *
This thread is about Pagerank, not search engine rankings. Those are two different things.


I kind of think that a search position is a huge deal.. I tend to very rarely click any further than page 2-3 when I'm searching for something..
johnywalter
QUOTE (multimastery @ Aug 1 2011, 07:35 AM) *
This thread is about Pagerank, not search engine rankings. Those are two different things.



could be 2 entities but can be connected. There was a time when people believed (and google actually did) that pageranks affect the SERP (search engine ranking positions). the higher page rank your pages have, the higher chances it could get good position. but then again, it is no longer the case.
kobamod
QUOTE (johnywalter @ Aug 1 2011, 03:48 AM) *
could be 2 entities but can be connected. There was a time when people believed (and google actually did) that pageranks affect the SERP (search engine ranking positions). the higher page rank your pages have, the higher chances it could get good position. but then again, it is no longer the case.


Would you think that spending any significant time with PR to be beneficial or not really ?
multimastery
QUOTE (kobamod @ Aug 1 2011, 03:59 AM) *
Would you think that spending any significant time with PR to be beneficial or not really ?



Put it like this...I would stress myself out over it. Just do your best to provide a quality site and promote regularly and targeted - and that's really all you can do. Pagerank is unreliable and oftentimes unfair as I've stated from the beginning. Who knows when the next PR update will be...could takes more than a year like the last update. You can wait to worry about Pagerank if you want to - but I'm gonna go out and get this web money PR or not! Remember: Regular people could care less about PR (and most likely have no idea what it is). All they know is if they like what you have to offer or not. Simple as that. The only time you might really need to be majorly concerned about Page rank is if you want to sell your site - or perhaps if you're marketing to marketers (being that they are usually the only ones concerned about this stuff).
johnywalter
QUOTE (kobamod @ Aug 1 2011, 07:59 PM) *
Would you think that spending any significant time with PR to be beneficial or not really ?



I do a lot of SEO stuff and I don't really look at Page rank factor anymore. Of course I still build links but not to increase page rank. When the events caffeine, mayhem (mayday) and panda happened, the major algo changes, you've just got to think that there are other elements being considered now to get good SERP.
vandals
I thought it helps heaps if you have a high PR. Gets you on the front page of google easier? I heard that you could generate better traffic if someone with a higher PR links you on his site.
multimastery
QUOTE (vandals @ Aug 3 2011, 09:59 AM) *
I thought it helps heaps if you have a high PR. Gets you on the front page of google easier? I heard that you could generate better traffic if someone with a higher PR links you on his site.


In some cases it may help. But this analogy has been proven to be inconsistent. As previously stated, I have seen sites with lower PR outrank higher PR sites sooo may times.

And as far as generating better traffic...maybe. But a site the has a lower PR but higher Alexa could bring you just as good or better traffic. Just because a site is "labeled" with a higher PR, doesn't necessarily mean it has better or more traffic.
Benzy007
Google page rank is an important thing for a website.
johnywalter
QUOTE (vandals @ Aug 4 2011, 01:59 AM) *
I thought it helps heaps if you have a high PR. Gets you on the front page of google easier? I heard that you could generate better traffic if someone with a higher PR links you on his site.


Do a little experiment or testing of your own. When you do one of your keyword rank checking, try to analyze other websites and see how their pages or their homepage is with page rank, then compare it with yours. Once you have done this, take the time to also analyze other elements of the site such as content, SE backlinks, indexed pages etc. You will see that it is no longer just about page rank smile.gif
IMwizard
I was brought up being taught that PR is the biggest factor next to backlinking....but when you do SEO and outrank PR1-4 sites with a brand new blog after about 1 month, i don't really think they were right haha
johnywalter
QUOTE (IMwizard @ Aug 16 2011, 11:55 AM) *
I was brought up being taught that PR is the biggest factor next to backlinking....but when you do SEO and outrank PR1-4 sites with a brand new blog after about 1 month, i don't really think they were right haha


Don't worry. There was actually a time when it was "one of the biggest factors" in terms of getting your website rank well with Google. But after all of the major changes in the algorithm (like I said after the events mayday, caffeine, panda etc), a lot of other factors were considered for ranking the sites. Check out the link below to see a timeline of all the major changes.

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http://www.seomoz.org/google-algorithm-change
jodamy
Pagerank is one of the 1st factors I look at when I check out my competition for Page 1 Google. I cannot imagine it will any different anytime soon.
steweroad
QUOTE (multimastery @ Jul 25 2011, 05:38 PM) *
Is pagerank important to you - or is it just a crock? Me...I really don't put too much value on pagerank these days.

PR has a great value! The higher it is the more money you will have from your website.
widthof2
I always thought that it was a big deal but like you, Im not so sure. Its a can be a headache looking for really high pr sites and it seems like they dont always give you a lot of serp juice like you would think.
niyyie
Google PageRank is no longer as relevant as it used to be 5 years ago. Focus on white-hat SEO and you'd be fine.
damage11
I dont think pr is important as i never pay attention to it with my sites, im sure many others dont as well, but it wouldnt hurt having a good pr on your site.
surveymaster
QUOTE (niyyie @ Aug 18 2012, 11:11 PM) *
Google PageRank is no longer as relevant as it used to be 5 years ago. Focus on white-hat SEO and you'd be fine.


no longer white-hat SEO maybe gray-hat SEO is the best definition
mypassion797
QUOTE (damage11 @ Sep 4 2012, 09:44 PM) *
I dont think pr is important as i never pay attention to it with my sites, im sure many others dont as well, but it wouldnt hurt having a good pr on your site.



Yes, PR is not really important, but these some quality measures by Google company. A site with having Google PR 5 and over 5 usually get sold with good price and sites that have low PR or no PR considered low-quality. If Google PR has no value why google still updating Google PR results for each and every page of every website online that is indexed by Google. So, i think Page Rank still have some value to google and many would agree to that.
zaneypop
PR is just one measure of many. 8 years ago it was extremely important now not really. Google doesn't even update it on a regular basis anymore.

Bottom line, I have PR2 websites that make significant revenue and PR 5 websites that make very little. Just be focused on creating a useful site.

whistler687
QUOTE (zaneypop @ Apr 17 2013, 12:50 PM) *
PR is just one measure of many. 8 years ago it was extremely important now not really. Google doesn't even update it on a regular basis anymore.

Bottom line, I have PR2 websites that make significant revenue and PR 5 websites that make very little. Just be focused on creating a useful site.


Hmm... Yes, PR is not really important now, but trust rank, means valuable new contents, but the new content should relevant to your website topic.
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