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Vivek99c
QUOTE (doomcrew @ Aug 17 2011, 11:39 PM) *
When will the main site start to see benefit from the tornado ?

As soon as the profits from tornado sales are fed into the main program! thumbup(1).gif
jonstone
Not after the 72 hours are over. Remember that after the end of the cycler all the unmannered positions are transferred to the main site.

QUOTE (doomcrew @ Aug 17 2011, 07:09 PM) *
When will the main site start to see benefit from the tornado ?

lolalola
QUOTE (Vivek99c @ Aug 17 2011, 12:10 PM) *
Let it put this way: each position in tornado Costs $15.00, out of which $9.00 is used to cycle 45 positions ($0.20 each), $1.50 goes as referral com. to level 1 and $0.75 goes to level 2 as referral com.
$9 + $1.50 + $0.75 = $11.25 is used out of $15.00
the remaining $3.75 is the profit that goes into the Main Program...

So if 1500 positions are sold during Tornado, $1500 x $3.75 - $5625 goes to main program!

Thus resulting in 5625/0.20 = 28125 cycles! wink.gif


ya but only the unmatured position profits would be transferred... not the total positions profit sold during the tornado.
Vivek99c
QUOTE (lolalola @ Aug 17 2011, 11:39 PM) *
Wouldn't uncycled revenue generated after 72 hours in the tornado be transferred to the main cycler. Not the total revenue of sales of positions that were purchased in the tornado. I mean we still have to pay out the tornado positions first.

Well, I feel you are talking about the remaining in your TORNADO account after 72 hours... well, that would be added to your CWC balance and your TORNADO position will act as a CWC position from there on!

Hope it helps! wub.gif

Vivek99c
QUOTE (lolalola @ Aug 17 2011, 11:45 PM) *
ya but only the unmatured position profits would be transferred... not the total positions profit sold during the tornado.

No lolalola, it doesn't matter if the position expired/matured or not.... Admin makes a profit when a sale is made! And Admin is kind enough not to keep that profit with him this time... wink.gif He's utilizing that profit to feed the main program! thumbup(1).gif
lolalola
QUOTE (Vivek99c @ Aug 17 2011, 12:20 PM) *
No lolalola, it doesn't matter if the position expired/matured or not.... Admin makes a profit when a sale is made! And Admin is kind enough not to keep that profit with him this time... wink.gif He's utilizing that profit to feed the main program! thumbup(1).gif


The only profit left is the profit not paid out on expired positions.
Vivek99c
QUOTE (lolalola @ Aug 17 2011, 11:54 PM) *
The only profit left is the profit not paid out on expired positions.

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hazel07
QUOTE (Vivek99c @ Aug 17 2011, 10:10 AM) *
Let it put this way: each position in tornado Costs $15.00, out of which $9.00 is used to cycle 45 positions ($0.20 each), $1.50 goes as referral com. to level 1 and $0.75 goes to level 2 as referral com.
$9 + $1.50 + $0.75 = $11.25 is used out of $15.00
the remaining $3.75 is the profit that goes into the Main Program...

So if 1500 positions are sold during Tornado, $1500 x $3.75 - $5625 goes to main program!

Thus resulting in 5625/0.20 = 28125 cycles! wink.gif


See even though i just got a detailed explanation this seems like a temporary fix that will only maybe get us through one or two or three days of cycling which then means we end back up in this deadlocked position again.
goodguy333
QUOTE (hazel07 @ Aug 17 2011, 11:05 PM) *
See even though i just got a detailed explanation this seems like a temporary fix that will only maybe get us through one or two or three days of cycling which then means we end back up in this deadlocked position again.


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hazel07
QUOTE (goodguy333 @ Aug 17 2011, 10:37 AM) *
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I'm not trying to speak ill of this site because I too have invested money into this program (and its my first time investing into a cycler too) and If i do receive some profit from this i would be excited to put money back into this place but it seems like I'm not going to make profit to even be able to even reinvest here.
Fab1j0
QUOTE (hazel07 @ Aug 17 2011, 09:35 AM) *
See even though i just got a detailed explanation this seems like a temporary fix that will only maybe get us through one or two or three days of cycling which then means we end back up in this deadlocked position again.


Not really smile.gif.. Positions will expired and new will come to main cycler.. The job of TORNADO is, that is helping to expire positions and that TORNADO will be available 1 time in week smile.gif...But every new TORNADO will speed up everything. 70% of people are now very confused (I was to about TORNADO), but when the will understand how is system made, we will have a lot of cycles in a week.

REMEMBER THIS WORDS:SLOWLY GOES A LONG WAY
YourBallyhoo
QUOTE (hazel07 @ Aug 17 2011, 11:35 AM) *
See even though i just got a detailed explanation this seems like a temporary fix that will only maybe get us through one or two or three days of cycling which then means we end back up in this deadlocked position again.


Some positions will mature and not go into the Main Program... only the $3.75 profits which WILL contribute to the main program. Next week will be another week with the Tornado... more profits... more cycling.

Also, lots of positions coming up for expiration in the main program.
10BucksUp
Yes I agree with lola...Profit payments go first to tornado positions that cycled. The profits from tornado positions that did not cycled after 72 hours, they will be merged into the main CWC positions.

What I dont know is how our CWC main positions will cycle, how the profit will be distributed across members. If you dont participate in tornado, will your CWC main positions get 'stimulus' and cycle also?

Then the tornado cyclings will start all over again. Based on what JBP was doing, this will happen every week. But Larry can set his own schedules because this is his program afterall.

Vivek99c
QUOTE (hazel07 @ Aug 18 2011, 12:05 AM) *
See even though i just got a detailed explanation this seems like a temporary fix that will only maybe get us through one or two or three days of cycling which then means we end back up in this deadlocked position again.

Well, sorry but I am least bothered about the main program working or not. I am here to play the Tornado as a n opportunity.

And I agree with you as well, even I was not happy with the way main program went through. But, the admin has tried and given us an opportunity to recover our investments in Tornado so why not? (but only the members with money in their pockets will benefit from tornado) others will have to rely on the main cycler anyhow!

Taking my above explanation in consideration:
1500 positions sold during tornado creates 28000 odd cycles

and assuming the main program already has more than 20000 positions, the tornado would manage to cycle those positions 1 time or a few would get cycled 2 times!

So, 1500 positions sold in tornado = $0.20-$0.40 added to each of your main cycler positions per week!
DON'T KNOW HOW GOOD IS THAT?
goodguy333
QUOTE (hazel07 @ Aug 17 2011, 11:13 PM) *
I'm not trying to speak ill of this site because I too have invested money into this program (and its my first time investing into a cycler too) and If i do receive some profit from this i would be excited to put money back into this place but it seems like I'm not going to make profit to even be able to even reinvest here.


Hey hazel07,I am with you...

I am yet to break even...

Thanks
Fab1j0
It will be good if someone will making statistic of sold positions in TORNADO smile.gif
YourBallyhoo
QUOTE (Fab1j0 @ Aug 17 2011, 11:50 AM) *
It will be good if someone will making statistic of sold positions in TORNADO smile.gif


I imagine somewhere in the 650 range given my late entry #s into the game.
Hope to see some more fun in Ph 2
hitokiri
QUOTE (lolalola @ Aug 18 2011, 02:15 AM) *
ya but only the unmatured position profits would be transferred... not the total positions profit sold during the tornado.


I think Vivek got it right. The 100% profit mentioned are Admin's profit ($3.75 maybe less) and not the profit that you gained during the Tornado cycling. If your position did not mature at the end of the 72hrs, then it'll be merged into the main program.
My guess is if your tornado position only earned you say $10 after 72 hrs, you'll get a position in the main program with earnings of $10.


QUOTE
After 72 hours the Tornado cycler will stop and be emptied. All unmatured positions will be placed into the main cycler where main cycler rules apply - so no one loses!! All balances outstanding will be moved into your main account.
Vivek99c
QUOTE (hitokiri @ Aug 18 2011, 12:30 AM) *
My guess is if your tornado position only earned you say $10 after 72 hrs, you'll get a position in the main program with earnings of $10.

Exactly! thumbup(1).gif
goodguy333
QUOTE (hitokiri @ Aug 17 2011, 11:30 PM) *
I think Vivek got it right. The 100% profits mentioned are Admin's profit ($3.75 maybe less) and not the profit that you gained during the Tornado cycling. If your position did not mature at the end of the 72hrs, then it'll be merged into the main program.
My guess is if your tornado position only earned you say $10 after 72 hrs, you'll get a position in the main program with earnings of $10.


Makes sense...

Well money making programs and maths/accounting are strange bedfellows... detective2.gif

Cheerios
Fab1j0
All i can say this is very good system smile.gif...You can't lose nothing, but only gain smile.gif
Blondie
QUOTE (10BucksUp @ Aug 17 2011, 11:45 AM) *
Yes I agree with lola...Profit payments go first to tornado positions that cycled. The profits from tornado positions that did not cycled after 72 hours, they will be merged into the main CWC positions.

What I dont know is how our CWC main positions will cycle, how the profit will be distributed across members. If you dont participate in tornado, will your CWC main positions get 'stimulus' and cycle also?

Then the tornado cyclings will start all over again. Based on what JBP was doing, this will happen every week. But Larry can set his own schedules because this is his program afterall.

You don't need to play in the tornado to benefit from it in the main cycler.

QUOTE (YourBallyhoo @ Aug 17 2011, 11:58 AM) *
I imagine somewhere in the 650 range given my late entry #s into the game.
Hope to see some more fun in Ph 2

Just bought 2 more: 775 and 776
hazel07
QUOTE (Vivek99c @ Aug 17 2011, 10:45 AM) *
Well, sorry but I am least bothered about the main program working or not. I am here to play the Tornado as a n opportunity.

And I agree with you as well, even I was not happy with the way main program went through. But, the admin has tried and given us an opportunity to recover our investments in Tornado so why not? (but only the members with money in their pockets will benefit from tornado) others will have to rely on the main cycler anyhow!

Taking my above explanation in consideration:
1500 positions sold during tornado creates 28000 odd cycles

and assuming the main program already has more than 20000 positions, the tornado would manage to cycle those positions 1 time or a few would get cycled 2 times!

So, 1500 positions sold in tornado = $0.20-$0.40 added to each of your main cycler positions per week!
DON'T KNOW HOW GOOD IS THAT?


thanks for clarifying a few things for me as for this tornado I don't have any funds to provide for the tornado at this moment so I will be one of the people hoping to see my positions in the main cycler being cycled. Again thanks for the clarification smile.gif

Also this tornado, is it permanent? or is it just for these three days and larry is never going to do it again?
Vivek99c
QUOTE (Fab1j0 @ Aug 18 2011, 12:33 AM) *
All i can say this is very good system smile.gif...You can't lose nothing, but only gain smile.gif

Yes, I sense more participation in the next tornado launch, as much of the members were tentative enough to invest in this first tornado launch and some were just sitting out watching how it goes!
marketingmaster
QUOTE (Blondie @ Aug 17 2011, 10:05 AM) *
You don't need to play in the tornado to benefit from it in the main cycler.


Just bought 2 more: 775 and 776

so we will still earn if we dont pay in the tornado as i cant participate i have no money..but have many positions in the main cwc and if this is a once a week thing thatwill be good,but will we be treated differently if we onl still focus on the main cwc?
Vivek99c
QUOTE (hazel07 @ Aug 18 2011, 12:36 AM) *
first off thanks for clarifying a few things for me as for this tornado I don't have any funds to provide for the tornado at this moment so I will be one of the people hoping to see my positions in the main cycler being cycled. Again thanks for the clarification smile.gif

Also this tornado, is it permanent? or is it just for these three days and larry is never going to do it again?

My pleasure hazel07! smile.gif

Tornado launch lasts 72 hours, its not permanent!

It will be re-launched quite frequently not exactly after a week!
Blondie
QUOTE (marketingmaster @ Aug 17 2011, 12:09 PM) *
so we will still earn if we dont pay in the tornado as i cant participate i have no money..but have many positions in the main cwc and if this is a once a week thing thatwill be good,but will we be treated differently if we onl still focus on the main cwc?

You might want to check your Tornado back office if you have referrals in the main CWC program.
I believe you'll still receive RC which can be used to purchase a Tornado position once it's $15.

Yes, everyone is treated fairly.
lolalola
QUOTE (hitokiri @ Aug 17 2011, 02:00 PM) *
I think Vivek got it right. The 100% profit mentioned are Admin's profit ($3.75 maybe less) and not the profit that you gained during the Tornado cycling. If your position did not mature at the end of the 72hrs, then it'll be merged into the main program.
My guess is if your tornado position only earned you say $10 after 72 hrs, you'll get a position in the main program with earnings of $10.


The admin must credit or payout the positions cycled in the tornado, anything left over is profit after 72 hours minus whatever fees, and is transferred to the main CWC. All I was trying to explain, was that it's not based on the total sales of positions... that's all. That's why it's only for 3 days, so extra revenue can be available to transfer. The thing is, we now have those additional positions to fund into the main cycler. So we'll see how it goes.
Vivek99c
QUOTE (lolalola @ Aug 18 2011, 12:51 AM) *
The admin must credit or payout the positions cycled in the tornado, anything left over is profit after 72 hours minus whatever fees, and is transferred to the main CWC. All I was trying to explain, was that it's not based on the total sales of positions... that's all. That's why it's only for 3 days, so extra revenue can be available to transfer. The thing is, we now how those additional positions to fund into the main cycler. So we'll see how it goes.

Very right lolalola... all we are posting is based on our assumptions! thumbup(1).gif

Here is something I found on the Tornado site:
"After 72 hours the Tornado cycler will stop and be emptied. All unmatured positions will be placed into the main cycler where main cycler rules apply - so no one loses!! All balances outstanding will be moved into your main account."
lolalola
QUOTE (Vivek99c @ Aug 17 2011, 02:30 PM) *
Very right lolalola... all we are posting is based on our assumptions! thumbup(1).gif

Here is something I found on the Tornado site:
"After 72 hours the Tornado cycler will stop and be emptied. All unmatured positions will be placed into the main cycler where main cycler rules apply - so no one loses!! All balances outstanding will be moved into your main account."


Correct! So, we must now cycle those transferred unmatured positions along with the ones that haven't been cycling much in the main CWC.
We'll see if the revenue left will be enough to make an impact.
strosdegoz
QUOTE (Blondie @ Aug 17 2011, 01:47 PM) *
I was wrong ... TG for that!

Q: what happens to the phase 1 positions that DONT complete after 24 hours and phase 2 starts?
Do they just stop cycling? And then get moved to the main when the 72 hours are over?
OR do they continue on with the phase 2 & 3 helping them out?

Larry's answer: they just keep going

Oh now I feel much better dancing4dh.gif


Wow this is amazing, great update thanks for sharing.

I went to sleep and came back to tons of pages to read, I am glad that all missing positions were added and sorry about the delay but with the above reply from Larry you shouldn't worry I guess.
We can reinvest more now without even worrying.

strosdegoz
QUOTE (Fab1j0 @ Aug 17 2011, 02:44 PM) *
Not really smile.gif.. Positions will expired and new will come to main cycler.. The job of TORNADO is, that is helping to expire positions and that TORNADO will be available 1 time in week smile.gif...But every new TORNADO will speed up everything. 70% of people are now very confused (I was to about TORNADO), but when the will understand how is system made, we will have a lot of cycles in a week.

REMEMBER THIS WORDS:SLOWLY GOES A LONG WAY


thumbup(1).gif Soon enough we will start to get the big picture and understand how everything works.
So far it looks like the Tornado is working great, small glitches at the beginning but these glitches will only happen once, once the script is fine tuned it will be a matter of turning it on and off.

Are payments going to be processed before or after phase 2 starts?
Because I want to buy shares in all of the phases.

strosdegoz
QUOTE
Yes I agree with lola...Profit payments go first to tornado positions that cycled. The profits from tornado positions that did not cycled after 72 hours, they will be merged into the main CWC positions.

What I dont know is how our CWC main positions will cycle, how the profit will be distributed across members. If you dont participate in tornado, will your CWC main positions get 'stimulus' and cycle also?

Then the tornado cyclings will start all over again. Based on what JBP was doing, this will happen every week. But Larry can set his own schedules because this is his program afterall.


The main cycler is still the same no matter if you join Tornado or Not.
So for you your positions in CWC will work normally and the money will push all positions equally for now until new improvements are implemented.
lolalola
QUOTE (strosdegoz @ Aug 17 2011, 03:09 PM) *
The main cycler is still the same no matter if you join Tornado or Not.
So for you your positions in CWC will work normally and the money will push all positions equally for now until new improvements are implemented.


What new improvements are going to be implemented?
strosdegoz
QUOTE (lolalola @ Aug 17 2011, 03:42 PM) *
Correct! So, we must now cycle those transferred unmatured positions along with the ones that haven't been cycling much in the main CWC.
We'll see if the revenue left will be enough to make an impact.


Ofcourse it will, people are now cycling on a daily basis.

  • We will get all the new profit funds from tornado (cycling without adding weight).
  • We will get all the un-matured positions (cycling just as if new members bought).
  • We will get reinvestment from members earning (50 / 50 rule).
  • We will have movement which will create momentum, which keeps the program going.
  • The first batch of positions which are thousands of positions will mature, creating faster cycling.
  • Tornado will run over and over, giving us all of the above again.


More improvements are yet to come...

Get the picture now?

Note : This is still based on assumption and deductive logic I would say tongue4.gif
Blondie
QUOTE (strosdegoz @ Aug 17 2011, 01:06 PM) *
thumbup(1).gif Soon enough we will start to get the big picture and understand how everything works.
So far it looks like the Tornado is working great, small glitches at the beginning but these glitches will only happen once, once the script is fine tuned it will be a matter of turning it on and off.

Are payments going to be processed before or after phase 2 starts?
Because I want to buy shares in all of the phases.

I think it's posted a few pages back that he'll do payouts Daily.
Can't remember if I found that somewhere or if I asked him dntknw.gif


lolalola
QUOTE (strosdegoz @ Aug 17 2011, 03:17 PM) *
Ofcourse it will, people are now cycling on a daily basis.

We will get all the new profit funds from tornado (cycling without adding weight).
We will get all the un-matured positions (cycling just as if new members bought).
We will get reinvestment from members earning (50 / 50 rule).
We will have movement which will create momentum, which keeps the program going.
The first batch of positions which are thousands of positions will mature, creating faster cycling.
Tornado will run over and over, giving us all of the above again.

More improvements are yet to come...

Get the picture now?


I hope your right smile.gif
rubyred
Can we purchase from balance into phase 2 or we have to
do a new spend using AlertPay again?
strosdegoz
QUOTE (Blondie @ Aug 17 2011, 04:19 PM) *
I think it's posted a few pages back that he'll do payouts Daily.
Can't remember if I found that somewhere or if I asked him dntknw.gif


You did ask and posted earlier, was just guessing the time because daily can be after 24 hours which is after Phase 2 started.
strosdegoz
QUOTE (lolalola @ Aug 17 2011, 04:13 PM) *
What new improvements are going to be implemented?


I don't know the exact details but I was told that this is not all more will come.
lolalola
Well the tornado is cycling like crazy...already at $7.00 a token. Not bad at all
strosdegoz
QUOTE (lolalola @ Aug 17 2011, 04:30 PM) *
Well the tornado is cycling like crazy...already at $7.00 a token. Not bad at all


Yes it is, I reinvested some, withdrew some and will reinvest for the rest of the day now.
Kerosene2092
Hi all,

I haven't posted for a while but been reading the posts none-the-less.

I invested heavily in normal positions just before the cycles became slower and didn't have much funds to invest in the Tornado this week. I hope to invest heavily in the next one though smile.gif.

Just a quick question to those that have invested - I know its still in it's early hours, but ... how many times have your early positions cycled upto now?

Anyone care to update a postion number and a current earning from that postion?

I think this 'Tornado' idea is genius smile.gif
lolalola
Here is my most recently purchased position

position #394

1 394 35 $7.00 08/17/11: 13:55:01 $22.50

I will now buy 3 more... since I like how its going
strosdegoz
QUOTE (Kerosene2092 @ Aug 17 2011, 04:33 PM) *
Hi all,

I haven't posted for a while but been reading the posts none-the-less.

I invested heavily in normal positions just before the cycles became slower and didn't have much funds to invest in the Tornado this week. I hope to invest heavily in the next one though smile.gif.

Just a quick question to those that have invested - I know its still in it's early hours, but ... how many times have your early positions cycled upto now?

Anyone care to update a postion number and a current earning from that postion?

I think this 'Tornado' idea is genius smile.gif


My early positions from 8-13 capped almost right away and cycled 112 times each.
~130 positions cycled around 90 times which means they are about to expire
and my latest batch which is in the ~330 cycled 45 times.

When I buy my new positions I can share more details.
Kerosene2092
QUOTE (lolalola @ Aug 17 2011, 08:36 PM) *
Here is my most recently purchased positionposition #394

1 394 35 $7.00 08/17/11: 13:55:01 $22.50



Cheers Lola smile.gif

Quite remarkable this is then. I think in future I'm just going to invest in the Tornado with 'Fresh' cash - Larry & co will still be getting commissions from the 50/50 rule in the normal cycler when I reinvest there smile.gif.

As someone pointed out earlier, there were some skeptics out there that didn't want to or couldn't invest and I believe the next Tornado will be even bigger smile.gif

Glad to see you guys making some cash - you're already nearly in profit in only 6 hours or so of purchasing smile.gif. Defo a win - win.
Kerosene2092
QUOTE (strosdegoz @ Aug 17 2011, 07:37 PM) *
My early positions from 8-13 capped almost right away and cycled 112 times each.
~130 positions cycled around 90 times which means they are about to expire
and my latest batch which is in the ~330 cycled 45 times.

When I buy my new positions I can share more details.


That's awesome Stroz smile.gifsmile.gif.

Is there a cap on how many Tornado positions you can purchase - is it 50 same as the main cycler?

If so I think I'll risk purchasing 50 in the next one if there's one next week smile.gif
strosdegoz
Haven't seen anything about a CAP so far.
The nice part is that you have 72 hours to
cycle and if you don't your positions are
moved into the main cycler, so you wont
loose no matter what. peace.gif
lolalola
QUOTE (Kerosene2092 @ Aug 17 2011, 03:42 PM) *
Cheers Lola smile.gif

Quite remarkable this is then. I think in future I'm just going to invest in the Tornado with 'Fresh' cash - Larry & co will still be getting commissions from the 50/50 rule in the normal cycler when I reinvest there smile.gif.

As someone pointed out earlier, there were some skeptics out there that didn't want to or couldn't invest and I believe the next Tornado will be even bigger smile.gif

Glad to see you guys making some cash - you're already nearly in profit in only 6 hours or so of purchasing smile.gif. Defo a win - win.


I would of invested sooner, but I had to go out. So I am going to invest in another 3. I think this is pretty cool too. I agree, if it continues at this momentum, we definately would have something here. I can post updated earnings again later on... So far I made another 0.20 cents since i last posted smile.gif
Kerosene2092
QUOTE (strosdegoz @ Aug 17 2011, 07:48 PM) *
Haven't seen anything about a CAP so far.
The nice part is that you have 72 hours to
cycle and if you don't your positions are
moved into the main cycler, so you wont
loose no matter what. peace.gif


Yeah, that's the great part. I can't wait for the next one - I think the Tornado cycler will become the most passive income making program on the net. If you invested in 50 positions right at the start of the Tornado just think of how much cash you could make in only a few days!! Plus, it feeds the main cycler too.

Awesome smile.gif
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