The method how these programs work are stealing at the end no matter how you call it. If you try hard enough you can sugar all the devil itself. Suit yourself.

Yeah it was a scam. You Chris fans club are so proud of announcing it to the world, I guess I dont need to tell anybody else how a lot of people lost their money here in the last round, 3 days after Chris have an interview with MNO and sounding very optimistic.

And oh I forgot to tell you...I know somebody who invested $10,000 the day before the program "stopped".

SFS run out of money? Lol. That was the greatest joke I heard from Chris so far.

If somebody has told you that this site is an investment site, and that it is not a ponzi, then you are absolutely right. That person has stolen from you. No doubt. I would like to know who told you that this site was something that it was not.

hoo-boy. I guess I'll speak your type of English so I'm not misunderstood. You're behaving like a troll with nothing intelligent to say. I'm sorry if that offends you, but....."them there are the facts".

Chris fan club?? I don't know this guy from a hole in the ground. I lost 50 bucks in here, because I got in too late. I accept it, and I blame nobody but myself, and it wouldn't be any different if I lost $10,000. Having said that, I would never even put that much money into one of these things, because I understand the risks. Nobody lied to me about what this was.

You know somebody who lost 10,000??? Prove it. I don't believe you. If you can prove it, then my response would be simple.....WHO LIED TO THIS PERSON ABOUT WHAT THIS WAS??

One more thing.....that site you have in your signature.....it's going to "stop" (in your words) as well. You're promoting it. Doesn't that make YOU a scammer??? Or do you not know how that one works either?
Please. Gimme a break. People like you love to play the victim, and yet you keep going back for more.
Unbelievable.

Wow, yes please tell me who lost $10,000 the day it closed. Come on , post here.

You think that the site running out of funds was a big joke. Why don't you contact each and every processor? And see how quickly the flaming stopped here? Check the monitors too and see how many votes were negative after the closure. Base it there. see what you can come up with.

Hey Chris you available,just wanna talk to you on yahoo if possible?

Well instead of creating just another program I'd suggest you to create a Network of Sites with various type of online earning opportunities & online business so they can back up each other .. like a Network of sites with Hyip/AS + MLM/Cycler + PTC + Some Sort of Solid Online Business (ie Online Store of Ebooks,Scripts,APPs for Webmasters/Internet Marketers - Its a Very solid online business ... If u want then I can also help you on this) ... Not really easy to do but can make a huge difference if done properly ... I wouldn't suggest this to just any admin but you've some very good quality which now a days r getting harder to see in other admins!! ... Think about it

As far about the closing of SFS I wasn't really surprised to see it ended but IMHO the way it ended was a bit disappointing and unexpected to me .. specially when it was running by an admin like you who was well known for his determination and hard work! Seems like to me that you were getting tired with all the hard work and gave up easily at the end instead of giving it a hard try (just my personal feelings) ... Honestly speaking I wouldn't mind even if you (any admin with honest intention) enforced 50/50 rule or something like that to make the prog last longer ...
But saying all that I really admire you for what you've done for almost 90 days long



Why lying buddy??! If I'm not wrong then there were only 3 users with 10k or more as total deposits ...none of those users invested those amount in one time but they were investing regularly from quite some time ago ...

Maybe he is practising his ways...
but if I was him I would think long and hard about the meaning of this famous saying instead;
"Don't throw stones when you live in a glasshouse"

It's doubtful that he'll have the guts to post here again.

Unless you are stuck in it..

Just dropped to grab a couple of ounces of criticism
and say howdy.

This was just another wonderful day and I wanted to share it.


I wanted to share with Danny that life is not measured
in dollar and cent's, and also not in inches. (Sorry About Your Problem)

Also, criticism is not measured in ounces, but in pounds.
The more you criticize the more you expose yourself and
the more miserable you will be in life.

Happiness Comes From Within!

cowboymt

This thread should be called the longest running, mutual admiration club of Chris the ubercool scammer.

And oh yeah...It is true, $10,000 deposited by one investor before this scumbag closed his program.

Listen you little Edit: name calling
Edit: name calling

cowboymt

Sorry!

I just can't stop laughing!!!!!!!!!!!!




GIVE ME A

cowboymt

Sorry 10Buck, but anybody risking that kind of money online these days, needs his or her

head examined, and since you still insist its true, why not show us proof?

You have a few skeptics here.

you mean like a serial killer who is desperately trying to get attention, so he can see how far he can go before it shatters?

Well that could be 1 example yes..

You're lying, and I think you've already garnered much more attention than you deserve. My fault.

good one

*gets out popcorn*

I am about to send a newsletter. The last newsletter to come from SureFireSurf.com but definitely not the last time you'll here from me. Just the final one from surefiresurf.com

Posted by consent and received a reply:

Still SFS forever

Thank you!

could you also post the newsletter here for some reason I don't get them

SureFireSurf and Beyond - Final Newsletter




ps/ .. it a YES for me

It's great to post here but I would suggest that people reply to Chris' email so that you are certain to be on his list.

Or, email him directly using the email in the update that was posted here if you didn't receive it yourself (like matt40).

what is his Email?

Very good news to read about new ventures

I´ll join when it comes out.

His eMail is: surefiresurf@gmail.com. Remember to write "YES" as a subject.

Have a great day!

MLMGeek

I found it in spam folder... don't know why gmail sometimes does this, even with mails I have been receiving for ages in inbox... all of a sudden smack, it ends up in spam.
So I made it a habit to check it on a regular basis.

Found it there also.

If I am lying then you are the Pope of honesty, which I doubt.

And please stop stalking me on other forums. You are just as creepy posting your nonsense diatribes here.

I also asked her why she invested that kind of amount. She said based on what she read here, Chris seems to be an honest and likable guy and the last interview he sounds optimistic about the future of the program.

I told her the most likable guy could also be a wolf in sheep's clothing. Her experience with SFS proves that.

I don't post in any other forums, so if there is someone claiming to be me, then please enlighten us. I guess you're wrong again.

Maybe it's just some kind of sick curiousity but I can't wait to see what will be next. Will he explain what kind of income source he intends to use? Some cardinal question isn't it?

I never recieved this email hmmm

Yes, I found it in the spamfolder too. Good thing I also check there now and then

Check your spam folder. I've got that e-mail there as well. Maybe even the mailing system has some sense of justice

Me neither, Matt. Not even in my junk folder.

That's strange, because I always received all the other emails

from Chris for SFS.

For those who didn't receive this e-mail


I have received a lot of different suggestions on where to go from here. Thank you all, for your responses!
It was not an easy decision to make to close SureFireSurf, I was hoping for a much longer run and I am sure that so were all of you. Many of you have asked me to continue, with a different set of plans, 50/50 rule, lower roi, different payment terms and so on. Unfortunately, none of this would have made a difference if we look at history.

I know we already changed history, by defeating Black December, this in itself was an enormous feat, which I am very proud of to have been involved in. And so should all of you be! A big thank you, to all of you who stood strong and had faith that this could be done!

I am sure that we could somewhat change history too, if SureFireSurf was to continue with a new set of plans, but with AP freezing the account and the very negative attitude of a handful members, I have to come to the conclusion that it will be too hard to take on such a task.

However, many of you have also suggested a whole new program, with a totally different set of plans and visions. I have thought about this and I think that this option has more potential and that if you are willing to support such a venture, even if it means your profits will come much slower and will require more effort to achieve, then so am I.
I will be dedicating my time over the next couple of months to work on a program, which will have some outside income and long term potential to sustain itself more without a constant increase in members and their deposits.

If you would like to receive information and updates on this venture, please reply to this email and put YES in the subject line and I will make a mailing list so I can let you know of the process.
SureFireSurf will go offline on February 7th, as the hosting is very expensive and I would rather save the money for this cost, as it will allow me to spend more, setting up the new venture.

Chris

Remember to reply to this mail if you wish to receive updates in future. Thank you.
You may reach me at surefiresurf@gmail.com from today onwards.

"very negative attitude of a handful members" - it means people who are supposed to say "thank you" after they lost their money.

Lol. We know SFS will turn to scam one day, and it did. But these scammers and supporters dont have to add insult to injury by telling those who lost their money they have a negative attitude.

Yeah the litany of Chris defenders will come after this post. But for once, why dont you people just shut the hell up and try to remember the day you lost your money too from some other scams. Perhaps then you will understand the sentiment of these people. I know losing money is part of these games, but if you are a scammer, you already got the money, try to respect the anger of your victims.

Thanks Danny Valentine for posting this "sayonara suckers, hello hawaii" message of Chris.

There's nothing to thank about it really. If I didn't read about it on this forum I would bother myself looking for this message in my own junk folder. Very negative attitude? Yes. That suits me too I guess. Too bad that only a few placed himself in opposition during this sparking conversation if we can call this conversation at all. You cannot hope understanding from those who came up on top of this. As the saying goes; History is written by the victorious.

Thanks for showing us a copy of this email Danny. I also did not receive an email from Chris, so had no idea why my request cash out was not working. I dont have a spam folder, so that can not be the reason I didn't receive his email!
I dont know whether or not it is worth responding to the email address Chris gave, as unless I get my pathetic amount of money back, I cant participate in any surfing programs at all.

I guess the original owner of Starwars surf was right all along! [color="#0000FF"][/color]

Yes your absolutely right on this jennybianca , if you have noticed out of 176,375 registered members in this forum only 2 members have been supporting it tooth and nail ,do you understand what this means ?.....hahahaaaa

Even the dummy-est person on earth would understand this ,they think we are fools ,how loud they may shout to the end of their voice but remember we have not grown overnight.

Chris I'm In when you will start your new program

Thanks for posting email I never recieved it either

You're just sour that you've been exposed as a scammer yourself in another thread.

Edit: Inappropriate comment removed. No namecalling please

I think that's a completely inappropriate remark, and it degrades those who really are Edit: inappropriate comment from quote deleted . You are really showing your true colours. Keep it up.

If you were smart enough you would have understood it as we all know it degrades you as well .

I did not receive the email that Chris sent out to everyone else but that is not surprising.

I hate to inform you people but Chris is not as honest a person as he appears to be.
My reasoning for making such a statement is during December /aka Black December. Chris approached me to be exact on December 13, 2010 and asked me to float him a loan to keep SurefireSurf afloat. Since the demise of SurefireSurf, I have sent Chris several email messages and IM messages, as of today he has not responded to any.
If he was as honest a person as he portrayed himself to be he would have at-least contacted me by now to make some type of arrangement to pay back the monies, he owes me. I wish everyone much luck in all of their future endeavors.