I am done with HYIPs, this is more long term which is worth waiting for a good return weekly. Like how you can withdraw earnings weekly instead of monthly. All I need now is to get upgraded members under me, surley its worth $20 a month to get a great income and after a few weeks your monthly subscription is paid for. Join today you won't regret it Doug
avont78
Jul 8 2010, 02:14 AM
Hi dittoteam, i decided to upgrade to Silver membership...hope to earn more money together
btw i paid for the upgrade using PayPal...will Club Astria deduct the $10 automatically every month? or do i have to do it manually every month?
douglawson
Jul 8 2010, 03:43 AM
Hi, I am a gold member but I cannot get the ten thousand e-books etc that we are promised. It says click here to view but theres nothing to click. Doug
dittoteam
Jul 8 2010, 05:24 AM
QUOTE (avont78 @ Jul 8 2010, 03:14 AM)
Hi dittoteam, i decided to upgrade to Silver membership...hope to earn more money together
btw i paid for the upgrade using PayPal...will Club Astria deduct the $10 automatically every month? or do i have to do it manually every month?
Awesome! You will not regret it. Yes, C-A will automatically deduct the $10 from your PayPal account each month. If you ever want to purchase more Asterios you have to use either AlertPay or SolidTrustPay.
dittoteam
Jul 8 2010, 05:31 AM
QUOTE (douglawson @ Jul 8 2010, 04:43 AM)
Hi, I am a gold member but I cannot get the ten thousand e-books etc that we are promised. It says click here to view but theres nothing to click. Doug
The link to the C-A Library is not working for me either right now. It could be they are updating the page or something. You may want to submit a support ticket to ask them about it. I would do that but I am going on vacation in a few hours and will not be back until Monday.
dittoteam
Jul 8 2010, 05:35 AM
Email just sent from Club Asteria that you may enjoy...
Turn "ON" YOUR income stream by taking a few small steps. This email will help you get the fastest possible start and fully enjoy this phenomenal opportunity.
Question: How do I know that Club-Asteria is a stable and long term business?
Answer: You don’t and we can’t promise you this, nor can we make any guarantees. But what we can do is remind you of the reason why you joined Club Asteria.
We have put together an extremely talented team whose main interest is to help eradicate financial bondage for millions of families in the next 5 years. This humanitarian cause is what makes Club-Asteria so exciting and assures its sustainable existence for many years to come.
* Andrea Lucas, our CEO, is a former Director of the World Bank. She dedicates 100% of her time to Club-Asteria and is passionate about helping others achieve financial security. Watch the video on the main site. We can ensure you that a person of Andrea's background will only participate in a 100% legal and financially viable program.
* Mark Kaplan, Chief Advisor/Mentor, is a major US property developer and co-founder of WIN University. Mark is on our advisory board and spends countless hours providing us with his genius in raising additional capital and introducing exciting new infrastructures to various projects. Mark's main emphasis is on remittances and being 100% compliant.
* Hank Needham, Director of International Business Development, is a seasoned professional at international team building with major successes in the Telecoms Industry and Network Marketing. Hank is a specialist in the development of online programs, with FreeAutobot.com and Cumada.com, amongst others, to his credit.
To ensure your earnings, you should participate in Club Asteria as best you can. Don’t just sit back and rely on others to do all the work for you.
Today, we are going to talk about:
ADDED BONUS FOR GOLD MEMBERS THE INCOME CALCULATOR 100% MATCHING BONUS
Many of the benefits of being a Gold Member are outlined on the Club Asteria website in the Affiliate section.
ADDED BONUS FOR GOLD MEMBERS The very first thing you want to do is upgrade to GOLD
It’s only $19.95 per month and when you look at the advantages of being a Gold Member (via the calculator provided below) you will quickly discover how simple it is to start making excellent money.
THE INCOME CALCULATOR
* Go to http://www.cumada.com/?ref=recruit.asteria and download the calculator. The instructions to use it are inside and it will help you determine your best strategy.
UPGRADE WITH $250 OR MORE WITHIN FIRST 5 DAYS AND YOU RECEIVE A 100% MATCHING BONUS.
This Matching Bonus is our most widely acted upon offer. Don’t miss it!
Over the next two days you will receive two emails that will add further information to this email. The 3rd email is a real treat as it is an insight to your CEO during the days that she served with the World Bank and the global CPA firm Price Waterhouse.
Please be assured that this is a hugely successful and incredibly secure solution to creating genuine wealth. Work the business and enjoy the rewards.
Until Tomorrow
Your Success Team Club Asteria
letsearn4ever
Jul 9 2010, 09:12 AM
QUOTE (avont78 @ Jul 7 2010, 11:56 PM)
Hello Dittoteam..i just joined under u as a free member to try it out
Dear Friend,
Wlcome to the CA family.
letsearn4ever
Jul 10 2010, 09:49 PM
Just got this from my upline who is very good internet marketer.
Hi
Club Asteria as you all by now know is from Andrea Lucas, former World Bank Director and this started in January 2010 and joining was Free and I was getting paid every week since Feb 2010. But in real sense they started in June 2010, when they implemented Silver/Gold monthly subscription and the plan was made clear to all.
This is one opportunity where the income generated are real and shared by all memers as the the number of asterios (points) they have.
The revenues are generated by many means and remittance by expatriates is the major income earner and no one other than Andrea can know this better as she has more than 30 years experience. Remittance every year exceeds $400 Billions and if Club Asteria gets even small percentage of that, the revenue generated will be huge and out of that 75% will be shared by all the members.
So the Future looks certainly bright with Club Asteria.
Update on June Income run (First month in real sense) First month of operation was really exciting, as many understood the potential of Club Asteria and went in for $250 and above to take the advantage of matching bonus and also many joined as Network Directors, you can see Network DIrector's page in club Asteria. I recd in total $2210 from club asteria for June, this includes weekly commission run, Referral Commission and 10% cash bonus. Network Director income for me was $392 for the month of June and will be paid on 13th July which when added total June income will be $2600.
There are four ways you can earn with Club Asteria
- Weekly commission Run (This is for 100% passive members) Weekly commission is capped at 10% and it can vary, but as on date it is 10%, you get 10% on what ever asterios you have and out of that 80% is reinvested back as asterios in your account and rest 20% in cash balance. so your asterios keeps adding up every week and will be substantial in couple of month or in a year and you can look forward to earning UPTO $400 per week from this.
- If one joins as Gold and do nothing, if he pays for 4-5 months, the earnings generated from the system will take care of the monthly subscriptions for the rest of the month and at the same time asterios keeps going up and by 19th month one can look forward to earning UPTO $400 per week.
- If one wants to earn fast, he can purchase asterios and weekly income will multiply fast, if one joins and invest $250 and above in first 5 days of joining, will get 100% matching Bonus, i.e if one purchase asterios for $250, he will get 500 asterios, if one invest $1000 he will get 2000 asterios and weekly commission run done on these asterios. See Examples in the Spread sheet.
- Referral Commission - Monthly Residual This can be a HUGE monthly earner, if you are Gold and refer silver/gold member you will earn $4.50 / $9.00 per month. So if you are a hitter and refer say 50 gold members you can earn monthly residual of 50 x 9 = $450 per month.
- Cash Bonus - 10% commission on purchases made by your direct This can be another HUGE income for you, as any one joining under you would like to take the advantage of 100% matching bonus and would go in for $250 or $1000 purchase and in the process you will get 10% matching bonus on their purchase, suppose if out of 20 referrals of yours 10 go in for $250 purchase, you cash bonus will be 10 x $25 = $250.
- Network Director's Income This is the best income one can look for in addition to the three as mentioned above. one can go in for ND1, ND2, ND3 or even higher levels for one time purchase of $1k, $3k, $5k and above and get 100% matching bonus. As ND you get paid on your organisation unlimited depth. As your downline grows and you have many NDs under you as CA grows, you can look forward to $1k to $k to $5k per month as ND.
I strongly suggest every one should not miss this opportunity and can do their DD before joining, I did mine and it certainly looks very reliable (though cannot guarantee).
I hope this will help newones to decide whether this is for them or not. thanks.
mysurf
Jul 12 2010, 02:03 PM
I'm looking at the program very seriously and trying to do my DD. A question I have is, what is the longevity of the program if you don't use there services or recruit? I understand that you don't have to do either one, but just more potential etc. if you do. in watching Her youtube video she makes it sound like IT IS necessary for a member to do this in order to sustain, like it's part of our duty. Maybe I misread it. Just wanted some thoughts or opinions on this from others who know the program much better than I do. In case you wondered I'm not a recruiter, just an investor. so I probably would not be referring a lot of people, if any.
Thanks to all who may reply
lerdbaron
Jul 12 2010, 02:28 PM
mysurf, you we do not need to do any recruiting as Asteria will reinvest 80% every week so we will all have automatic asterios purchased each week earning us additioanl cash to cash out. As you may or may not know I also am terrible at recruiting so I am 100% passive right now.
dittoteam
Jul 12 2010, 02:38 PM
QUOTE (mysurf @ Jul 12 2010, 02:03 PM)
I'm looking at the program very seriously and trying to do my DD. A question I have is, what is the longevity of the program if you don't use there services or recruit? I understand that you don't have to do either one, but just more potential etc. if you do. in watching Her youtube video she makes it sound like IT IS necessary for a member to do this in order to sustain, like it's part of our duty. Maybe I misread it. Just wanted some thoughts or opinions on this from others who know the program much better than I do. In case you wondered I'm not a recruiter, just an investor. so I probably would not be referring a lot of people, if any.
Thanks to all who may reply
Successful recruiting will help you start to profit faster and you will make more but it is not required. You can be commpletely passive and earn money.
lerdbaron
Jul 12 2010, 02:58 PM
QUOTE (mysurf @ Jul 12 2010, 02:03 PM)
I'm looking at the program very seriously and trying to do my DD. A question I have is, what is the longevity of the program if you don't use there services or recruit? I understand that you don't have to do either one, but just more potential etc. if you do. in watching Her youtube video she makes it sound like IT IS necessary for a member to do this in order to sustain, like it's part of our duty. Maybe I misread it. Just wanted some thoughts or opinions on this from others who know the program much better than I do. In case you wondered I'm not a recruiter, just an investor. so I probably would not be referring a lot of people, if any.
Thanks to all who may reply
Yup you can be completly passive and earn
letsearn4ever
Jul 12 2010, 07:34 PM
QUOTE (mysurf @ Jul 12 2010, 03:03 PM)
I'm looking at the program very seriously and trying to do my DD. A question I have is, what is the longevity of the program if you don't use there services or recruit? I understand that you don't have to do either one, but just more potential etc. if you do. in watching Her youtube video she makes it sound like IT IS necessary for a member to do this in order to sustain, like it's part of our duty. Maybe I misread it. Just wanted some thoughts or opinions on this from others who know the program much better than I do. In case you wondered I'm not a recruiter, just an investor. so I probably would not be referring a lot of people, if any.
Thanks to all who may reply
Dear Friend,
To be very frank, every business in this world needs new customers. Here Club Asteria gain business from many sources - not just referrals. So CA has very bright future. and this has just started gaining momentum so just imagine where we all would be after 1 year.
Now with CA one can earn either passive or active income. lets say, if one wants to be 100% passive then he can do so and he will earn maximum $400 per week. and this is really a very good point here as no passive members can earn unlimited here.
now if you one wants to be active too, then he can create income of thousands of dollars. so CA is for everyone.
also the main point which should be followed by everyone : we all should also focus on Benefactoring new members into this great program. lets say when one is in good condition, i mean they are earning $500-$1600 per month then he can go ahead and benefacotor a few into this by paying their $20 gold membership fees per month for 5 months as after 5 months their fees will be self funded. and if we all follow this process then we all will be here for many years.
Dear mysurf, i know one thing that you will be glad to join this one. looking forward to join you Club Asteria Family.
bigorillaz
Jul 13 2010, 04:12 AM
Just reading through the thread here...the compensation plan takes a while to sink in...
Using round numbers say 100 Asterios
As I understand it..you have to be a min silver member to withdraw.
assuming I'm a silver member...the calculations are 10% of 100 Asterios = 10
20% of that 10 = $2.00
$2.00 is sitting in my cash balance
8 are added to my Asterio point balance.
so I have a 98 points left and will gain 10 more for a total of 108 for my following months silver membership payment
Minimum cashout is $25 and when I reach that minimum .. is there a fee for cashout associated with that?
Appreciate posters here correcting where I'm in error
No doubt looks like a sustainable long term program
Gord
EzyInvest
Jul 13 2010, 04:34 AM
QUOTE (bigorillaz @ Jul 13 2010, 04:12 AM)
Just reading through the thread here...the compensation plan takes a while to sink in...
Using round numbers say 100 Asterios
As I understand it..you have to be a min silver member to withdraw.
Yes, you have to be an upgraded member to earn and withdraw weekly earnings.
assuming I'm a silver member...the calculations are 10% of 100 Asterios = 10
20% of that 10 = $2.00
$2.00 is sitting in my cash balance
8 are added to my Asterio point balance.
so I have a 98 points left and will gain 10 more for a total of 108 for my following months silver membership payment
I see that there is no reduction in your asterios after weekly earnings paid out. So You will have 100 (original) and plus your 80% reinvestment of 8 asterios, so your new asterios balance shall be 108. If you pay the monthly silver membership, another 10 points are added to your asterios balance.
Minimum cashout is $25 and when I reach that minimum .. is there a fee for cashout associated with that?
Noted no fees to cashout.
Appreciate posters here correcting where I'm in error
No doubt looks like a sustainable long term program
Gord
Hi Gord, i've given my feedback based on my experience so far - as above in red.
1. noted that so far earnings per week has been 10% 2. weekly earnings, 80% are auto reinvested, and these are added to your Asterios balance. 3. there are ways you can increase your asterios balance - you can purchase more asterios, you can sponsor new members (and they complete their profile and compliance etc with uploading of photo id and have read the news) and gain 5 asterios too and every monthly payment of your silver/gold membership will gain you 10/20 more asterios
hope this helps. if anyone has more to share, pls do so. we are here to learn from each other.
cheers!
dittoteam
Jul 13 2010, 04:41 AM
QUOTE (bigorillaz @ Jul 13 2010, 04:12 AM)
Just reading through the thread here...the compensation plan takes a while to sink in...
Using round numbers say 100 Asterios
As I understand it..you have to be a min silver member to withdraw.
assuming I'm a silver member...the calculations are 10% of 100 Asterios = 10
20% of that 10 = $2.00
$2.00 is sitting in my cash balance
8 are added to my Asterio point balance.
so I have a 98 points left and will gain 10 more for a total of 108 for my following months silver membership payment
Minimum cashout is $25 and when I reach that minimum .. is there a fee for cashout associated with that?
Appreciate posters here correcting where I'm in error
No doubt looks like a sustainable long term program
Gord
That all looks correct to me. There is no fee from Club Asterio to request cash. There will be the normal small fee to receive cash to your paynment processor. Payment requests are processed on Tuesdays.
bigorillaz
Jul 13 2010, 04:49 AM
QUOTE (EzyInvest @ Jul 13 2010, 09:34 AM)
Hi Gord, i've given my feedback based on my experience so far - as above in red.
1. noted that so far earnings per week has been 10% 2. weekly earnings, 80% are auto reinvested, and these are added to your Asterios balance. 3. there are ways you can increase your asterios balance - you can purchase more asterios, you can sponsor new members (and they complete their profile and compliance etc with uploading of photo id and have read the news) and gain 5 asterios too and every monthly payment of your silver/gold membership will gain you 10/20 more asterios
hope this helps. if anyone has more to share, pls do so. we are here to learn from each other.
cheers!
Thanks for correcting me there. Very professional as well. I like that!
Gord
letsearn4ever
Jul 13 2010, 05:02 AM
Wow today is payday again. I am loving tuesdays.
EzyInvest
Jul 13 2010, 05:02 AM
QUOTE (bigorillaz @ Jul 13 2010, 04:49 AM)
Thanks for correcting me there. Very professional as well. I like that!
Gord
You are welcome.
For those who are attracted to this thread, just to share, the program is paying.
I've been paid.
I've a cashout pending of around $111 and will post paid when paid - which is Tuesday , their pay day!
cheers!
letsearn4ever
Jul 13 2010, 05:05 AM
QUOTE (EzyInvest @ Jul 13 2010, 04:34 AM)
Hi Gord, i've given my feedback based on my experience so far - as above in red.
1. noted that so far earnings per week has been 10% 2. weekly earnings, 80% are auto reinvested, and these are added to your Asterios balance. 3. there are ways you can increase your asterios balance - you can purchase more asterios, you can sponsor new members (and they complete their profile and compliance etc with uploading of photo id and have read the news) and gain 5 asterios too and every monthly payment of your silver/gold membership will gain you 10/20 more asterios
hope this helps. if anyone has more to share, pls do so. we are here to learn from each other.
cheers!
Dear friend, Very Correct. and yes we all are here to learn from each other. thanks.
EzyInvest
Jul 13 2010, 05:08 AM
QUOTE (letsearn4ever @ Jul 13 2010, 05:05 AM)
Dear friend, Very Correct. and yes we all are here to learn from each other. thanks.
yes, this is what we are here for.
if we still can't get the right 'answer', i'll get it from the top management directly.
letsearn4ever
Jul 13 2010, 05:35 AM
Dear all new members who may join here please remember this:
if you bye asterios within 5 days after your joining date then you will get 100% matching bonus meaning if you put $1K then you will asterios worth $2K.
and if you bye asterios after 5 days of your joining day then you will the matching bonus as follow:
BONUS SCHEDULE – From July 1:
250 within your first 5 days = 100%
After first 5 days 250+ = 25% 500+ = 50% 1000+ = 75% 2500+ = 100%
please correct me if i am wrong.
EzyInvest
Jul 13 2010, 05:50 AM
QUOTE (letsearn4ever @ Jul 13 2010, 05:35 AM)
Dear all new members who may join here please remember this:
if you bye asterios within 5 days after your joining date then you will get 100% matching bonus meaning if you put $1K then you will asterios worth $2K.
and if you bye asterios after 5 days of your joining day then you will the matching bonus as follow:
BONUS SCHEDULE – From July 1:
250 within your first 5 days = 100%
After first 5 days 250+ = 25% 500+ = 50% 1000+ = 75% 2500+ = 100%
please correct me if i am wrong.
Yes, thats correct and my understanding from the website too.
the 100% matching bonus should you upgrade within 5 days of joining is for $250 AND above. So even if you choose to upgrade with $250 , you get 500 worth of asterios. If you upgrade with $300, u get 600 and so on. The $1000 upgrade to obtain Network Director 1 will put your status as Network Director and you will get 2000 asterios. As network director, you can earn from your group volume based on the ND plans as detailed out as per their presentation and tables.
EzyInvest
Jul 13 2010, 06:45 AM
Payments received. Tuesday is payment day! Again payment is on time/prompt!
To all reading this Asterios will keep increasing every week by 80%
mysurf
Jul 13 2010, 08:18 AM
Are there any rules against husband and wife referral and both having account from the same IP address?
letsearn4ever
Jul 13 2010, 08:23 AM
QUOTE (mysurf @ Jul 13 2010, 08:18 AM)
Are there any rules against husband and wife referral and both having account from the same IP address?
Wow, I got paid again to my STP
Transaction Number: 269556274 Amount: USD 43.00
and dear Mysurf,
I just got it confirmed that YES you can have as many account in one house as you want from the same IP address.
Thanks.
dittoteam
Jul 13 2010, 02:42 PM
QUOTE (lerdbaron @ Jul 13 2010, 08:53 AM)
congratz EzyInvest,
To all reading this Asterios will keep increasing every week by 80%
Actually your Asterios will increase every week by 8% not 80%.
If the revenue share is 10% - you get 80% of that 10% reinvested which is 8% of your total.
Example: You have 100 Asterios. The revenue share is 10% or 10 Asterios. You would get 80% of that reinvested which is 8 Asterios and you would get 20% as cash which would be $2.
EzyInvest
Jul 13 2010, 05:47 PM
QUOTE (lerdbaron @ Jul 13 2010, 07:53 AM)
congratz EzyInvest,
To all reading this Asterios will keep increasing every week by 80%
Thanks lerdbaron!
yes, its a nice feeling to get paid WEEKLY. IF i do nothing, i'll get paid passively. But i see the potential in this one and my weekly income will go up. Yes, its by 8%, IF i do nothing and IF they maintain the 10% on asterios, which is the case so far.
For people still looking here 1. If you are passive, i.e. u join and upgrade monthly subs and do nothing, u will earn - yes no sponsoring required to earn 2. If you are active, you will earn on your asterios, you will earn on your downlines signing up, you will earn on your downlines purchases and if you go network director, you will earn MORE, via your global organisation activites.
EzyInvest
Jul 13 2010, 06:04 PM
QUOTE (dittoteam @ Jul 13 2010, 02:42 PM)
Actually your Asterios will increase every week by 8% not 80%.
If the revenue share is 10% - you get 80% of that 10% reinvested which is 8% of your total.
Example: You have 100 Asterios. The revenue share is 10% or 10 Asterios. You would get 80% of that reinvested which is 8 Asterios and you would get 20% as cash which would be $2.
Yes dittoteam, u got it right.
let's go thru an example in a few steps so ppl can see this clearer. pls correct me if i missed anything here...
simple example.
You have 100 Asterios. Asteria declare 10% rev sharing this week. 10% will be 10 which is split as described below. So you have a 80/20 in place here 1. 80%, is auto-reinvested - you do nothing on this one - thus 80% of 10 = 8 asterios are added to your current asterios balance of 100, bringing your current balance to 108 2. 20%, is sent to your cash balance, i.e. $2. This you can request OR choose to reinvests. Min to request so far is $25. NO FEES to request cashout, except the fees you need to pay on your payment processors you are using. Also noted this feature - member to member transfer - this is not in effect yet, but will be so soon.
Now, you have 108 asterios in your balance. Let say, the following week, Asteria declares 10% again (a reminder : this is 10% so far, this is NOT a fixed %, it can fluctuate.) So , you get 10% of 108 = 10.8 1. 80% is auto-reinvested - 80% of 10.8 = 8.64 is added to your asterios, bringing your balance of asterios to 116.64 ( u can see that your asterios will grow weekly) 2. 20% is sent to your cash balance , i.e. 2.16 ( you can see that your weekly earnings is increasing)
this is a simple scenario.
rev sharing is posted on every thursday. you can cashout and get paid on tuesdays - yes, payout day is tuesday. What i normally do is let my cash balance accumulate and do one cashout request on monday. Asteria recommends that we do only 1 cashout a week.
cheers!
knocks
Jul 13 2010, 07:04 PM
Hello everyone.
I joined the club last week and i got paid today to AP.
weekly earnings will be posted soon today - thursday!
Just a fantastic feeling :- 3 downlines upgraded to GOLD yesterday 1 downline upgraded to Network Director today AND one of his downline also upgraded to ND.
Confidence is certainly strong over here and people are beginning to see the wonderful compensation that Club-Asteria offers.
letsearn4ever
Jul 15 2010, 03:29 AM
QUOTE (EzyInvest @ Jul 15 2010, 03:14 AM)
Club-Asteria is rocking!!
weekly earnings will be posted soon today - thursday!
Just a fantastic feeling :- 3 downlines upgraded to GOLD yesterday 1 downline upgraded to Network Director today AND one of his downline also upgraded to ND.
Confidence is certainly strong over here and people are beginning to see the wonderful compensation that Club-Asteria offers.
Wow, Congrats to you my dear friend.
EzyInvest
Jul 15 2010, 03:35 AM
QUOTE (letsearn4ever @ Jul 15 2010, 03:29 AM)
Wow, Congrats to you my dear friend.
thanks!
its so gratifying when you help others to grow/expand in this program and the rewards come back many times over.
This is a great program. Once people see the big picture , they can't turn away. Our job is to explain to them the whole big picture of what it is, then let them make their informed decision. That's what I strive to do as I believe i won't do justice to them until i share the full picture! We can't sell hype on this program. Only facts and what is possible and logical.
cheers!
mysurf
Jul 15 2010, 05:26 AM
"We can't sell hype on this program. Only facts and what is possible and logical."
How do you tell someone what exactly it is, and what do they do to make money? (in a nutshell) I've kinda burned out the candle so to speak with a lot of people i know, with past programs that have fizzled, so i'm having a hard time figuring out the best way to share it with them without the same old questions being asked.
ie; is it a surf?, is it a hyip?, is it mlm?, well what is it then? will they be here in 12 months from now? and how do they make there money? and why do they need us?... and so on
I'm not exactly sure what and how to present it other than it revolves around the money transmittal biz and online shopping and other benefits etc. but lets face it it's always about the money, that's what people are interested in, maybe the product too, but what's drawing people is the earning potential here, not the products. So again back to my question of being able to briefly do an overview of what it is all about and how this is different than the ponzi's and pyramid's that have plagued the past.
I might add that I plan on joining regardless, but I know so many people that could benefit if I can convince them so to speak, some of them would be big players too.
thanks you for all your help, this is a friendly place to learn
SeriousJosh
Jul 15 2010, 07:19 AM
QUOTE (mysurf @ Jul 15 2010, 02:26 PM)
"We can't sell hype on this program. Only facts and what is possible and logical."
How do you tell someone what exactly it is, and what do they do to make money? (in a nutshell) I've kinda burned out the candle so to speak with a lot of people i know, with past programs that have fizzled, so i'm having a hard time figuring out the best way to share it with them without the same old questions being asked.
ie; is it a surf?, is it a hyip?, is it mlm?, well what is it then? will they be here in 12 months from now? and how do they make there money? and why do they need us?... and so on
I'm not exactly sure what and how to present it other than it revolves around the money transmittal biz and online shopping and other benefits etc. but lets face it it's always about the money, that's what people are interested in, maybe the product too, but what's drawing people is the earning potential here, not the products. So again back to my question of being able to briefly do an overview of what it is all about and how this is different than the ponzi's and pyramid's that have plagued the past.
I might add that I plan on joining regardless, but I know so many people that could benefit if I can convince them so to speak, some of them would be big players too.
thanks you for all your help, this is a friendly place to learn
I would like to know the same thing. I tried to figure things out on their website but honestly it doesn't make any sense to me. I can't see how they are making profits.
dittoteam
Jul 15 2010, 12:19 PM
Club Asteria makes money in many, many ways and then it SHARES the revenue with members. Here are at least 5 ways they make money:
1. Members upgrade to Silver, Gold or Network Director.
2. Members join their other programs such as:
Traffic Optimizer Cumada Powerteam International Rainmaker Summit WIN University Social Media Science People String Content Website Builder Magnetic Sponsoring Debt Consolidation Mandura Loan Home GreenBack Street (shopping portal) Blastoff Network
3. Members buy e-books or software.
4. Visitors click their Google ads.
5. Members open new accounts and deposit money in AlertPay or Solid Trust pay.
There may be more ways but these are the ones I easily found on the C-A website. As Silver or Gold members you also get varied amounts of Asterios for joining any of the other programs. This is a very synergisitic win-win program.
avont78
Jul 15 2010, 04:53 PM
QUOTE (dittoteam @ Jul 16 2010, 04:19 AM)
Club Asteria makes money in many, many ways and then it SHARES the revenue with members. Here are at least 5 ways they make money:
1. Members upgrade to Silver, Gold or Network Director.
2. Members join their other programs such as:
Traffic Optimizer Cumada Powerteam International Rainmaker Summit WIN University Social Media Science People String Content Website Builder Magnetic Sponsoring Debt Consolidation Mandura Loan Home GreenBack Street (shopping portal) Blastoff Network
3. Members buy e-books or software.
4. Visitors click their Google ads.
5. Members open new accounts and deposit money in AlertPay or Solid Trust pay.
There may be more ways but these are the ones I easily found on the C-A website. As Silver or Gold members you also get varied amounts of Asterios for joining any of the other programs. This is a very synergisitic win-win program.
Thanks Dittoteam for a very detailed summary!
i would also like to add 1 point (in my opinion) of why this program will last a long time. On the website it states that it is a membership program...i.e. members need to pay a monthly fee ($10 per mth for Silver membership/ $20 per mth for Gold membership) to stay in the program to earn. This is very different from what i see in other 'surf' or 'hyip' programs where members just pay a one-time fee and expect to earn back money weekly or monthly..the money will dry up soon when no members join and the program will collapse. The monthly payment in Club Asteria will ensure a stable income since there is money coming in every month from members and from other income sources pointed out by Dittoteam. Cheers!
avont78
Jul 15 2010, 05:12 PM
Hey btw i just saw my revenue share in my backoffice...is it 10%?? doesn't seem to be the case for me....anyone??
SeriousJosh
Jul 15 2010, 07:07 PM
QUOTE (dittoteam @ Jul 15 2010, 10:19 PM)
Club Asteria makes money in many, many ways and then it SHARES the revenue with members. Here are at least 5 ways they make money:
1. Members upgrade to Silver, Gold or Network Director.
2. Members join their other programs such as:
Traffic Optimizer Cumada Powerteam International Rainmaker Summit WIN University Social Media Science People String Content Website Builder Magnetic Sponsoring Debt Consolidation Mandura Loan Home GreenBack Street (shopping portal) Blastoff Network
3. Members buy e-books or software.
4. Visitors click their Google ads.
5. Members open new accounts and deposit money in AlertPay or Solid Trust pay.
There may be more ways but these are the ones I easily found on the C-A website. As Silver or Gold members you also get varied amounts of Asterios for joining any of the other programs. This is a very synergisitic win-win program.
It seems that all the money is comming from the members themselfs. The only external source of income are non members clicking on some Google ads... This is more or less a zero sum game then. Virtually no external income. Or in other words: A Ponzi scheme. -> SCAM.
SeriousJosh
Jul 15 2010, 07:10 PM
QUOTE (avont78 @ Jul 16 2010, 02:53 AM)
Thanks Dittoteam for a very detailed summary!
i would also like to add 1 point (in my opinion) of why this program will last a long time. On the website it states that it is a membership program...i.e. members need to pay a monthly fee ($10 per mth for Silver membership/ $20 per mth for Gold membership) to stay in the program to earn. This is very different from what i see in other 'surf' or 'hyip' programs where members just pay a one-time fee and expect to earn back money weekly or monthly..the money will dry up soon when no members join and the program will collapse. The monthly payment in Club Asteria will ensure a stable income since there is money coming in every month from members and from other income sources pointed out by Dittoteam. Cheers!
They are not even trying to hide the fact that it is an illegal Ponzi scheme. Why would anyone want to participate in this? They don't even claim to have external income from Forex or TEPs or some other source. All the money comes from members. So for members to earn something other members have to pay.
avont78
Jul 15 2010, 08:56 PM
QUOTE (SeriousJosh @ Jul 16 2010, 11:10 AM)
They are not even trying to hide the fact that it is an illegal Ponzi scheme. Why would anyone want to participate in this? They don't even claim to have external income from Forex or TEPs or some other source. All the money comes from members. So for members to earn something other members have to pay.
In my opinion, this is more like a network marketing business than a ponzi scheme.
Have u heard of other network marketing businesses? e.g. Amway, Nuskin, USANA etc? the members make money on the purchases (e.g. health products) of other members in their downlines..so what's wrong with making money off other members? Legitimate companies like the ones mentioned above are doing it too.
And why the need to claim external income from Forex or TEP when they are not doing that? that would be lying if that's not what they do.
Just my 2 cents worth..
dittoteam
Jul 16 2010, 04:33 AM
QUOTE (avont78 @ Jul 15 2010, 09:56 PM)
In my opinion, this is more like a network marketing business than a ponzi scheme.
Have u heard of other network marketing businesses? e.g. Amway, Nuskin, USANA etc? the members make money on the purchases (e.g. health products) of other members in their downlines..so what's wrong with making money off other members? Legitimate companies like the ones mentioned above are doing it too.
And why the need to claim external income from Forex or TEP when they are not doing that? that would be lying if that's not what they do.
Just my 2 cents worth..
Great post avont78. Also for the critics on my earlier post I was not trying to do someone else's due dilligence I was just answering a forum question. In my list of income generators wherever I put "member" it does not mean I meant that exclusively. It is not just MEMBERS of Club Asteria that will be joining some of the other programs or purchasing products. It is obvious from Alexa dot com that there are more and more visitors to the site. ANYONE that visits the site can join the other programs or purchase products. There will be visitors that may not want to join C-A but they want more traffic for their own site or are interested in one of the other offers. As the traffic to C-A keeps increasing the "outside" income will keep growing. It is very targeted traffic that ends up at C-A so there should be some good conversion rates. Also there is no need to minimize google adword income. It is true that on some sites it only generates pennies but on others it is a great source of income. I have a friend with a site that has $500 days with adwords and it is nowhere as large as C-A will become.
SeriousJosh
Jul 16 2010, 06:23 AM
QUOTE (avont78 @ Jul 16 2010, 05:56 AM)
And why the need to claim external income from Forex or TEP when they are not doing that? that would be lying if that's not what they do.
Because you claim that people can earn money with this "program". If the program doesn't have external income then it is obviously not possible for the members to make a profit because it is a zero sum game. It is not an investment program but some kind of a money cycler or MLM game. It shoud be moved to the apropriate section at least.
mysurf
Jul 16 2010, 07:19 AM
QUOTE (dittoteam @ Jul 15 2010, 04:19 PM)
Club Asteria makes money in many, many ways and then it SHARES the revenue with members. Here are at least 5 ways they make money:
1. Members upgrade to Silver, Gold or Network Director.
2. Members join their other programs such as:
Traffic Optimizer Cumada Powerteam International Rainmaker Summit WIN University Social Media Science People String Content Website Builder Magnetic Sponsoring Debt Consolidation Mandura Loan Home GreenBack Street (shopping portal) Blastoff Network
3. Members buy e-books or software.
4. Visitors click their Google ads.
5. Members open new accounts and deposit money in AlertPay or Solid Trust pay.
There may be more ways but these are the ones I easily found on the C-A website. As Silver or Gold members you also get varied amounts of Asterios for joining any of the other programs. This is a very synergisitic win-win program.
Thanks for your reply,
I'm sorry, I did not aim to cause argument or controversy here, just had question on how they make money etc...was not real clear to me, however like I said I plan on joining regardless, the question was more for me explaining to others.
I will say, the only real option I see is, 1 & 5 and possibly some 4...as for 2 & 3 I would think very minimal, but I may be wrong. Like I said earlier it's always about the money, people seeing the potential compensation is what's drawing the attention here, which would be option 1 & 5. I don't think there would be a one of us here that would say, gosh I've got to be in this program for option's 2,3,& 4 without any compensation plan. Just food for thought.
bigorillaz
Jul 16 2010, 10:32 AM
Upgraded to Gold earlier his week and got in on the "revenue share" and can see the potential here with regards to earnings
It's up to an individual member with regards to how far he or she wants to take this opportunity.
Reading up on the information on the site and here a portion of revenue comes from "commissions" in the "Programs" section and membership driven.
So far..it's running along nicely
Gord
SeriousJosh
Jul 16 2010, 04:54 PM
QUOTE (bigorillaz @ Jul 16 2010, 07:32 PM)
Upgraded to Gold earlier his week and got in on the "revenue share" and can see the potential here with regards to earnings
It's up to an individual member with regards to how far he or she wants to take this opportunity.
Reading up on the information on the site and here a portion of revenue comes from "commissions" in the "Programs" section and membership driven.
So far..it's running along nicely
Gord
I still can't see how this could be an investment program without having external income. It's just redistributing members money.
EzyInvest
Jul 16 2010, 09:38 PM
QUOTE (bigorillaz @ Jul 16 2010, 10:32 AM)
Upgraded to Gold earlier his week and got in on the "revenue share" and can see the potential here with regards to earnings
It's up to an individual member with regards to how far he or she wants to take this opportunity.
Reading up on the information on the site and here a portion of revenue comes from "commissions" in the "Programs" section and membership driven.
So far..it's running along nicely
Gord
The program is growing well. Need any help, just ask.
cheers!
Hula
Jul 16 2010, 09:50 PM
QUOTE (SeriousJosh @ Jul 16 2010, 02:54 PM)
I still can't see how this could be an investment program without having external income. It's just redistributing members money.
I agree. Moving topic as soon as we figure out where it fits best...
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