Date: October 21, 2011 3:06:23 AM Amount Sent: $44.00 USD Sender Name: JustBeenPaid! Sender Email: michael@bigbooster.com Reference Number: EB946-B4B7A-XXXXX Message: Withdrawal from JSS Account
Goldminematrix
Oct 20 2011, 11:11 PM
QUOTE (solstar @ Oct 21 2011, 09:00 AM)
I wonder how long this would have lasted if not for the sever overload? Whatever happen in the future, I would rank this.... "best ponzis of the year"
The Best Program of the decade!!
Little sad that things are taking so long but, we just have to play along. Heck i earn more now than i did before the restart. I think we will see some tripler feed today for sure. Lets hope for the best Kent
shrik1
Oct 20 2011, 11:18 PM
QUOTE (Goldminematrix @ Oct 21 2011, 09:11 AM)
The Best Program of the decade!!
Little sad that things are taking so long but, we just have to play along. Heck i earn more now than i did before the restart. I think we will see some tripler feed today for sure. Lets hope for the best Kent
The Best Programm 2010-2020!!!!
letsearn4ever
Oct 20 2011, 11:32 PM
just Got paid $54.
Thanks to JBP group.
Sainam
Oct 20 2011, 11:55 PM
58 day nearly 2 mount RSF not finish. very bored
ISPY
Oct 21 2011, 12:05 AM
I haven't posted in quite a while -- been "under the weather" lately. I figure I got attacked after my last post but haven't bothered to go back and read anything.
Well, I see not much has happened; not much is different. They should change the slogan from "indefinitely sustainable" to "indefinitely non-restartable".
skyboy
Oct 21 2011, 12:13 AM
QUOTE (Sainam @ Oct 21 2011, 08:55 AM)
58 day nearly 2 mount RSF not finish. very bored
Yes it is unbeleivable the lenght of time needed to get this right you would have thought the genius would have all this planned out before he even opened the program to us the public. Having said that i just got a payment it was requested yesterday and its now in my alertpay the other withdrawl i requested on sunday has not yet hit my alertpay but its been looked into. To everyone out there they are paying yes but only on one part of the system. We are all waiting for JSS to be started until that happens then and only then will many others be happy and support JBP. without JSS working with tripler this is just another 2% program as only a combination of both makes it all indefinetly sustainable but they are paying
jmav
Oct 21 2011, 01:34 AM
paid
QUOTE
You've got cash!
JustBeenPaid! (michael@bigbooster.com) just sent you money through AlertPay. Payment Details
Date: October 21, 2011 2:54:14 AM Amount Sent: $36.30 USD Sender Name: JustBeenPaid! Sender Email: michael@bigbooster.com Reference Number: 87A27-BC6C9-xxxxx Message: Withdrawal from JSS Account
Sainam
Oct 21 2011, 01:42 AM
QUOTE (skyboy @ Oct 21 2011, 12:13 AM)
Yes it is unbeleivable the lenght of time needed to get this right you would have thought the genius would have all this planned out before he even opened the program to us the public. Having said that i just got a payment it was requested yesterday and its now in my alertpay the other withdrawl i requested on sunday has not yet hit my alertpay but its been looked into. To everyone out there they are paying yes but only on one part of the system. We are all waiting for JSS to be started until that happens then and only then will many others be happy and support JBP. without JSS working with tripler this is just another 2% program as only a combination of both makes it all indefinetly sustainable but they are paying
and dont forget 65% our invest Now stay in JSS. Thay pay only 35%..Why they dont open to pay 65%? why they Frozen over 1 mount to pay 35% and nearly or over 2 mount to pay 65% ? and 65% dont know will earn how many percent.. yes JBP will stay long time if they frozen our money to long time.
kingofall
Oct 21 2011, 02:04 AM
guys someone made a joking statement about a month ago but that statement mybe true that the restart might nothappend until december.... wow im starting to believe it.
skyboy
Oct 21 2011, 02:30 AM
QUOTE (kingofall @ Oct 21 2011, 11:04 AM)
guys someone made a joking statement about a month ago but that statement mybe true that the restart might nothappend until december.... wow im starting to believe it.
well look at it this way if it happens in december it will be a nice xmas present but then again the next restart could already have happened then that would mean a new restart before the old restart has restarted oh my goodness my head hurts someone give me a chill pill or a vodka
Peakr8
Oct 21 2011, 03:04 AM
QUOTE (solstar @ Oct 21 2011, 12:58 PM)
Paul Burks is a good financial strategist in my opinion. not sure about Dave ?.... Don't really know his financial tract record. He does talk a good game though, but we all know about talk. .... We shall see.
Maths and strategies are my strong point, so is business. They are also my interests.... yep, I am incredibly boring.
I don't doubt that you can't know my financial track record, and why should you? It is becoming increasingly apparent to me that anyone who has a 'known financial track record' in this industry, and who is opening up a new program, is usually someone to be avoided like the chicken wings at a student barbecue at 2.30 am.
I do know enough to be able to work out that 2+2=5 is incorrect. But that is what a ponzi master always tries to convince people, and it seems to work rather well, according to some of the posts I read.
When I joined this program, I was taken in by the supposed, income streams of all the 'high end' marketing products, and the ad surfing, which if done right with a large army of marketers in the member base, may have had a chance, but this all seems to have been 'misleading information', and that is really was just a ponzi.
So really I think what it boils down to is, what value is your mathematical plan if your business plan and product isn't even there in the first place?
Even if you have a product, and it is limited to marketing courses etc... Then your market is limited. Especially when 9 times out of 10, your market are your marketers. Nobody sells to themselves.
What you need is a set of products that span every genre in the internet world and beyond, so your portfolio is sold by your marketing army to an audience of around 2.1 billion people worldwide. Then add to this, the fact that you can make money even if none of these people buy a single thing. Then you have worked out how to make one of these programs work.
Yes it is about numbers and strategies, but you also need to have a business plan that is not only watertight, but is 'airtight!' Only then should you have the confidence to issue promises on returns.
It is up to the individual to gauge whether the business plan is airtight, and if it isn't, simply walk the other way.
playfair
Oct 21 2011, 03:12 AM
QUOTE (ElmerFudd @ Oct 21 2011, 01:44 AM)
Yes off topic but... Took no time at all through google to find out that this is a cash gifting illegal scam run by Karl Jacobsen. I'd recomend reading this page before sending him your cash http://desktopserver.com/karl-jacobsen-and...petualcash-org/
Thank you very much, ElmerFudd. This is what a forum is for. PHP - People Helping People!
ISPY
Oct 21 2011, 04:24 AM
QUOTE (Peakr8 @ Oct 21 2011, 03:04 AM)
Maths and strategies are my strong point, so is business. They are also my interests.... yep, I am incredibly boring.
I don't doubt that you can't know my financial track record, and why should you? It is becoming increasingly apparent to me that anyone who has a 'known financial track record' in this industry, and who is opening up a new program, is usually someone to be avoided like the chicken wings at a student barbecue at 2.30 am.
I do know enough to be able to work out that 2+2=5 is incorrect. But that is what a ponzi master always tries to convince people, and it seems to work rather well, according to some of the posts I read.
When I joined this program, I was taken in by the supposed, income streams of all the 'high end' marketing products, and the ad surfing, which if done right with a large army of marketers in the member base, may have had a chance, but this all seems to have been 'misleading information', and that is really was just a ponzi.
So really I think what it boils down to is, what value is your mathematical plan if your business plan and product isn't even there in the first place?
Even if you have a product, and it is limited to marketing courses etc... Then your market is limited. Especially when 9 times out of 10, your market are your marketers. Nobody sells to themselves.
What you need is a set of products that span every genre in the internet world and beyond, so your portfolio is sold by your marketing army to an audience of around 2.1 billion people worldwide. Then add to this, the fact that you can make money even if none of these people buy a single thing. Then you have worked out how to make one of these programs work.
Yes it is about numbers and strategies, but you also need to have a business plan that is not only watertight, but is 'airtight!' Only then should you have the confidence to issue promises on returns.
It is up to the individual to gauge whether the business plan is airtight, and if it isn't, simply walk the other way.
You have summed up the situation quite nicely -- well done! It's nice to see someone being objective, logical, and honest -- qualities that are exceptionally rare in this arena.
nineteen
Oct 21 2011, 05:36 AM
got paid this morning thanks JBP*
Date: October 21, 2011 2:59:53 AM Amount Sent: $27.50 USD Sender Name: JustBeenPaid! Sender Email: michael@bigbooster.com Reference Number: 5D98D-5FE7D-CBF2C Message: Withdrawal from JSS Account
wbright22
Oct 21 2011, 08:35 AM
I asked Fred for an update about the JSS positions being placed and begin cycling. This is his response which I just received a few minutes ago:
"Hi,
The load of JSS positions generated by the Restart has started. Nearly 200,000 positions are being loaded. Could take several days.
Frederick"
Bopy
Oct 21 2011, 10:15 AM
QUOTE (wbright22 @ Oct 21 2011, 07:35 PM)
I asked Fred for an update about the JSS positions being placed and begin cycling. This is his response which I just received a few minutes ago:
"Hi,
The load of JSS positions generated by the Restart has started. Nearly 200,000 positions are being loaded. Could take several days.
Frederick"
thanks for info
Blondie
Oct 21 2011, 10:21 AM
Thanks Wesley for posting that. Better than pure silence eh? LOL Cheers
solstar
Oct 21 2011, 10:52 AM
Time to roll the dice again....on 100% repurchase mode, until end of month or restart...whichever comes first.
ElmerFudd
Oct 21 2011, 12:05 PM
QUOTE (playfair @ Oct 21 2011, 10:12 PM)
Thank you very much, ElmerFudd. This is what a forum is for. PHP - People Helping People!
You're welcome Just a hint for next time, google program name + scam to find info. for example, "xyzhyip scam" or "xyzhyip + scam" (xyzhyip being the program name).
Phoenix14
Oct 21 2011, 12:10 PM
Paid again.
Date: October 21, 2011 3:03:00 AM Amount Sent: $62.00 USD Sender Name: JustBeenPaid! Sender Email: michael@bigbooster.com Reference Number: 06B83-D05C3-12xxx
solstar
Oct 21 2011, 12:21 PM
QUOTE (ElmerFudd @ Oct 21 2011, 01:05 PM)
You're welcome Just a hint for next time, google program name + scam to find info. for example, "xyzhyip scam" or "xyzhyip + scam" (xyzhyip being the program name).
That should cover about ever business know to man. If one does not have crap published about it yet......just give it a little more time.
doomcrew
Oct 21 2011, 01:04 PM
The other thing is people use the word scam in thier marketing to get people to click so that doesnt always hold true. There is always going to be scam associated with every site whether its paying or not.
Peakr8
Oct 21 2011, 01:32 PM
QUOTE (doomcrew @ Oct 22 2011, 04:04 AM)
The other thing is people use the word scam in thier marketing to get people to click so that doesnt always hold true. There is always going to be scam associated with every site whether its paying or not.
Very true indeed.
marketers go all out trying to get those terms to the top of the rankings, and most succeed.
I can usually find the non-manipulated content 3 pages back sometimes. It can be really irritating when doing due diligence.
Be particularly aware of the first line..
'Is XYZ a Scam?? well.... I have done my research and....'
Then just scroll down the page and see the sign up now button. You usually don't need to read through the fluff in between to know what it is.
Funnily enough, there is one for jbp and when you do a whois search on the domain name it resolved to JBP servers....lol
It's nothing new.
MrInteresting
Oct 21 2011, 01:59 PM
I think this program really rocks. But in life, things are almost always balanced.
This program literally outcompetes and blows away every MLM, matrix and HYIP out there at this moment. In terms of the payplan (2% daily with free 2 X 2 matrixes upon expiry), and payment frequency and efficiency (when has withdrawal requests been delayed?).
Payplan: Beyond Excellent Payments: Beyond Excellent Infrastructure (software): Above average, it is currently able to handle 26,000 paid members. Sustainability: Above average (restart taking a while, but 2% still paying daily) Website: Poor.
Haha, the website still has the look and feel of Big Booster, and Buildfreedom, which still haven't updated their, code, look, templates since 1998.
I find it funny that a millionaire can't pay a webmaster/coder to upgrade the sites visually.
doomcrew
Oct 21 2011, 02:03 PM
Yeah the site looks like crap and the banner ads also, could do alot of design work and lessen all the bland font text but whatever.
happyrhino
Oct 21 2011, 03:03 PM
NO matrix cycling to report today.
baylee
Oct 21 2011, 03:23 PM
QUOTE (wbright22 @ Oct 21 2011, 11:35 AM)
I asked Fred for an update about the JSS positions being placed and begin cycling. This is his response which I just received a few minutes ago:
"Hi,
The load of JSS positions generated by the Restart has started. Nearly 200,000 positions are being loaded. Could take several days.
Frederick"
What does Fredrick's JBP several days mean in real time? 6 months 10 years???
jpfritztx
Oct 21 2011, 03:24 PM
QUOTE (letsearn4ever @ Oct 21 2011, 01:32 AM)
just Got paid $54.
Thanks to JBP group.
congrats. Do you recall when you requested it? IE how many days from req to receipt.
thanks
happyrhino
Oct 21 2011, 03:56 PM
QUOTE (baylee @ Oct 21 2011, 03:23 PM)
What does Fredrick's JBP several days mean in real time? 6 months 10 years???
lol we may never see it. If they do feed in the matrices there will massive cycling & admin will have to pay out tens of thousands of dollars. Will that happen? The longer this drags on the less confident I am that it will.
Blondie
Oct 21 2011, 04:13 PM
QUOTE (jpfritztx @ Oct 21 2011, 05:24 PM)
congrats. Do you recall when you requested it? IE how many days from req to receipt.
thanks
I'm not who you asked, but my payments are always received within 24 hours.
jpfritztx
Oct 21 2011, 04:20 PM
QUOTE (Blondie @ Oct 21 2011, 06:13 PM)
I'm not who you asked, but my payments are always received within 24 hours.
Well, wish I could say the same. I requested a w/d on 10/15/11. My back office shows paid 10/17/11. It's now 10/21 and nothing received in AP. Everything looks good in my back office. I sent to support and after 2 days, said someone else would be handling it. I have not heard from anyone else. I just sent another support ticket that says: How much longer is it going to take? Can't you just cancel that you paid me and just do it again, as AP has never received the money. thanks... Now, I wait for an answer !!
happyrhino
Oct 21 2011, 05:07 PM
QUOTE (MrInteresting @ Oct 21 2011, 01:59 PM)
I think this program really rocks. But in life, things are almost always balanced.
This program literally outcompetes and blows away every MLM, matrix and HYIP out there at this moment. In terms of the payplan (2% daily with free 2 X 2 matrixes upon expiry), and payment frequency and efficiency (when has withdrawal requests been delayed?).
Payplan: Beyond Excellent Payments: Beyond Excellent Infrastructure (software): Above average, it is currently able to handle 26,000 paid members. Sustainability: Above average (restart taking a while, but 2% still paying daily) Website: Poor.
Haha, the website still has the look and feel of Big Booster, and Buildfreedom, which still haven't updated their, code, look, templates since 1998.
I find it funny that a millionaire can't pay a webmaster/coder to upgrade the sites visually.
IMHO JBP is no longer a great investment for the small investor who can't afford to lose money caused by the restart. But, he can still play the game & lessen financial risk by the collection of referrals.
MrInteresting
Oct 21 2011, 06:26 PM
I think this program has some "built in" features that make it last long.
1. Restart converts some 2% tripler units to matrix positions. These matrix positions then can take longer than 75 days to cycle, so it buys time for the company.
2. $20 minimum withdrawal fee also makes this program last longer, I've been in this program two weeks now without getting paid because of this rule, as well as thousands who are in this program who haven't reached the mimimum. So that's thousands and thousands of dollars "working" for the program.
3. Placements is another revenue stream for the company to keep paying. When given free tripler positions that would have cycled your previous positions thus giving you a payout, remember half of your positions go elsewhere. So probably half would go to premium placements, and another half to positions where it would take you a longer time to cycle.
For example, if I were the company and I need time, I would create multiple company matrix positions. So if these company matrix positions cycle, the company doesn't need to pay anyone.
4. Premium placements is another revenue stream for the company. Since tripler positions are free, and people are paying $10 for premium, the company has more money to work with.
Now if only the company has more revenue streams, like selling advertising space or other stuff, then it will truly be indefinitely sustainable.
thebeachworks
Oct 21 2011, 06:50 PM
Good news folks. Four of my matrixes have filled and cycled. That is 240 already and more to come. Time to load up on triplers.
letsearn4ever
Oct 21 2011, 06:53 PM
QUOTE (thebeachworks @ Oct 21 2011, 06:50 PM)
Good news folks. Four of my matrixes have filled and cycled. That is 240 already and more to come. Time to load up on triplers.
Thats great news dear friend.
happyrhino
Oct 21 2011, 06:56 PM
QUOTE (thebeachworks @ Oct 21 2011, 07:50 PM)
Good news folks. Four of my matrixes have filled and cycled. That is 240 already and more to come. Time to load up on triplers.
Great News! I'll go check mine now! Congrats!!!
happyrhino
Oct 21 2011, 06:59 PM
QUOTE (happyrhino @ Oct 21 2011, 07:56 PM)
Great News! I'll go check mine now! Congrats!!!
No cycling yet for me.
jpfritztx
Oct 21 2011, 07:11 PM
QUOTE (happyrhino @ Oct 21 2011, 08:59 PM)
No cycling yet for me.
Just checked...I have 16 matrixes that have 2 of the 4 remaining spots filled. ( prev all 4 spots were empty in all of them.) What is promising is that none of the names are my own. So looks like we will get "overflow" since most matrixes are intertwined.
JP
thebeachworks
Oct 21 2011, 07:20 PM
QUOTE (jpfritztx @ Oct 21 2011, 08:11 PM)
Just checked...I have 16 matrixes that have 2 of the 4 remaining spots filled. ( prev all 4 spots were empty in all of them.) What is promising is that none of the names are my own. So looks like we will get "overflow" since most matrixes are intertwined.
JP
Yep, that is what makes JSS work so well.
happyrhino
Oct 21 2011, 07:31 PM
I have 30 matrix's many over a year old. Hope I can get the bulk of these cycled through overflow. Also there will be income from my referrals & there referrals cycled matrixs.
happyrhino
Oct 21 2011, 07:36 PM
I wonder what order these are being filled. I know I joined the first day or so. update: No cycling yet.
NetGain
Oct 21 2011, 09:28 PM
I just had 3 spots filled in 3 different pre-existing matrixes by random people, not from myself or referrals. And the spots had only Standard Placements. None were upgraded. So good things are happening!
happyrhino
Oct 21 2011, 09:54 PM
I had quite a few random people fall into my matrices. No matrices completed - so no cycling occurred.
10BucksUp
Oct 21 2011, 10:21 PM
PAYMENT RECEIVED, THANK YOU JBP YOU ARE THE BEST!
Date: 10/22/2011 3:06:38 AM Reference Number: C3BF6-F54B1-47CD7 Transaction type: Transfer Received From Name/Email: BigBooster.com michael@bigbooster.com Current Status: Completed Amount: $112.00 USD Purchase Type: Service Shipping Details: Not Provided Details (optional): Withdrawal from JSS Account
Goldminematrix
Oct 21 2011, 10:21 PM
Got another WD. Thanks Mr. Mann!! Kent
Payment Details
Date: October 22, 2011 3:01:25 AM Amount Sent: $406.59 USD Sender Name: JustBeenPaid! Sender Email: michael@bigbooster.com Reference Number: 5F868-36C09-xxxx Message: Withdrawal from JSS Account
Payment Details
Date: October 22, 2011 3:09:59 AM Amount Sent: $200.00 USD Sender Name: JustBeenPaid! Sender Email: michael@bigbooster.com Reference Number: 928A2-12CCA-xxxx Message: Withdrawal from JSS Account
webster
Oct 21 2011, 10:36 PM
The money you requested has just been sent to your AlertPay Account!
The following are details about your withdrawal request:
Your Member ID: 110045 Date of Withdrawal Request: 2011-10-21 23:47:49 Amount: $ 23.00 Your AlertPay Account: XXXXXXX
Don't forget to tell everyone you know about JustBeenPaid and JSS!!
Sure I'll tell everyone that this is the email I received after only 8 something hours. The trouble is that it has NOT gone to my Alert Pay account.
It has just reached my AP account after 40 minutes. Thank you. If this happens to you too just wait a bit.
webster
Oct 21 2011, 10:39 PM
QUOTE (Goldminematrix @ Oct 22 2011, 04:21 PM)
Got another WD. Thanks Mr. Mann!! Kent
Payment Details
Date: October 22, 2011 3:01:25 AM Amount Sent: $406.59 USD Sender Name: JustBeenPaid! Sender Email: michael@bigbooster.com Reference Number: 5F868-36C09-xxxx Message: Withdrawal from JSS Account
Payment Details
Date: October 22, 2011 3:09:59 AM Amount Sent: $200.00 USD Sender Name: JustBeenPaid! Sender Email: michael@bigbooster.com Reference Number: 928A2-12CCA-xxxx Message: Withdrawal from JSS Account
Has it gone into your Alert Pay account????
10BucksUp
Oct 21 2011, 10:42 PM
QUOTE (webster @ Oct 22 2011, 02:36 PM)
The money you requested has just been sent to your AlertPay Account!
The following are details about your withdrawal request:
Good to know you received your payment!
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.