Fantastic post.. Lots of respect for you.

I normally do not like to comment in this thread, but seeing as I have been personally invited to do so, I shall happily oblige.

You asked me why I think that the $7,500 per day is impossible?

Well, I was quoting 'We had a person today on a webconference who is making right now after the restart $7500 daily'

Because the limit is 25,000 triplers per account. 'Right after the restart'. That person would have been left with 8,750 triplers after having 16,250 axed. Meaning that they could only earn $1,750 per day from the remaining units.

Now they can purchase another 16,250 units to get back to that 25K mark, however, they are restricted to a maximum daily purchase of 500 triplers. Meaning it would take them 33 days to get back there. So even if they bought 500 every day since Sept 21st when they went back on sale, they would only have 15,250 paying $3,050 a day. Still $4.450 short of the mark.

Now even if they had 300 referrals or whatever, his 2 levels would need to be purchasing $44,500 worth of triplers a day, EVERY DAY.... I doubt they would have the time to go into the webinar, I should think they would be spending all day deleting email notifications....lol

So, okay, I may have been a little over-reacting when I said mathematically impossible. If people want to be pedantic, then let's just say it is very highly improbable... As a matter of fact, I would be happy to lay money that it is pure BS.

For one... who in their right mind would throw $5000 a day into a program that has been frozen for a month, especially knowing the nature of this industry? That's $65,000 going in blind... No way. Another thing, How many people have a downline that are consistently throwing in $44K a day? Remember... There are many people NOT buying new triplers, a hell of a lot after, than before the restart.

Some people will come on and scream me down and say.. So NOT mathematically impossible... Ha Ha, you are stupid Peakr8!! But then again, any 'normal' person would almost certainly agree with me.

It's a gamble alright. Not even sure how anyone even make any kind of a "plan" when we won't even know when the next restart will be. And as demonstrated, without warnings. I don't personally like that part of this game. Had I'd known or had a heads up, I would held back my funds. But, such is the name of this game.

Fantastic post.. Lots of respect for you.

I normally do not like to comment in this thread, but seeing as I have been personally invited to do so, I shall happily oblige.

You asked me why I think that the $7,500 per day is impossible?

Well, I was quoting 'We had a person today on a webconference who is making right now after the restart $7500 daily'

Because the limit is 25,000 triplers per account. 'Right after the restart'. That person would have been left with 8,750 triplers after having 16,250 axed. Meaning that they could only earn $1,750 per day from the remaining units.

Now they can purchase another 16,250 units to get back to that 25K mark, however, they are restricted to a maximum daily purchase of 500 triplers. Meaning it would take them 33 days to get back there. So even if they bought 500 every day since Sept 21st when they went back on sale, they would only have 15,250 paying $3,050 a day. Still $4.450 short of the mark.

Now even if they had 300 referrals or whatever, his 2 levels would need to be purchasing $44,500 worth of triplers a day, EVERY DAY.... I doubt they would have the time to go into the webinar, I should think they would be spending all day deleting email notifications....lol

So, okay, I may have been a little over-reacting when I said mathematically impossible. If people want to be pedantic, then let's just say it is very highly improbable... As a matter of fact, I would be happy to lay money that it is pure BS.

For one... who in their right mind would throw $5000 a day into a program that has been frozen for a month, especially knowing the nature of this industry? That's $65,000 going in blind... No way. Another thing, How many people have a downline that are consistently throwing in $44K a day? Remember... There are many people NOT buying new triplers, a hell of a lot after, than before the restart.

Some people will come on and scream me down and say.. So NOT mathematically impossible... Ha Ha, you are stupid Peakr8!! But then again, any 'normal' person would almost certainly agree with me.

I'm suspicious of an admin that would not give members any advance warning of when the restart would occur. But you are right lolalola, it is a game...if people can't hack it...they don't have to play. Frankly, at this time, I'm hesitant to play with any fresh money. We'll see how the matrix filling goes - I have 30 of them.

I know this sounds crazy but I decided to compound 100% for the next little while..

I didn't lie in my post about the person who makes $7.500 daily.You make me look like I am lying and I am not. I start thinking Your nickname should be jerk08. How do you like that? But I will not be calling you names here. Just let You know there are some rich people in this world who have rich friends.This person was from upper New York and his refs are probably from the same area.So do not mislead anybody here anymore.

Not crazy at all.. the way to go for the rest of the month.

I didn't take it that he was calling you a liar at all. This is what I meant by guys like you clogging up the board. I'm not sure anyone took it as he was calling you a liar but rather you were relaying information during the conference and he commented on it. I appreciate Peakr explaining (in detail) what he meant by it was not mathmatically possible. If someone is going to take all that time to go through all that... you might want to listen up a little IMHO.

As for the person that asked me what Synergy positions were.. I was referring to the JSS positions - one in the same. If I termed them incorrectly I apologize. I just thought that was what they were called and I wish they would let them loose so we could see what we were dealing with. Meaning, I want to see if any of them are going to fill my current positions or be overlapping - or if any of your positions are going to fill my positions etc. etc.

For the person that was discussing about JBP shutting down for 40 days referring to my thoughts that it was really due to building up cash reserves by not paying out 2% per day for 40 days - are you certain they were not taking in new money? I thought that new members could join and add money to their accounts. Are you certain they could not add to their accounts? If they couldn't - then for sure I would be shaking my head wondering what the deal is.. because its not a programming issue or a server move... that I believe any reasonable person could agree on. I was truly of the opinion that the pause was to take a breather, bring in new money, and essentially shut down so they didn't have to continue to pay out.

But if no one could add to their account during the sabbatical - well then I stand corrected and I'm a little more puzzled then I was when I had it all figured out :-)

I know this sounds crazy but I decided to compound 100% for the next little while..

This is the breakdown of the restart process to answer your question:

Sept 15th Access JSS account
Sept 17th Fund JSS account
Sept 19th Access JSS Tripler account
Sept 22nd Buy New JSS Tripler positions

So the site was dead to new money for about 24 days.

I didn't take it that he was calling you a liar at all. This is what I meant by guys like you clogging up the board. I'm not sure anyone took it as he was calling you a liar but rather you were relaying information during the conference and he commented on it. I appreciate Peakr explaining (in detail) what he meant by it was not mathmatically possible. If someone is going to take all that time to go through all that... you might want to listen up a little IMHO.

As for the person that asked me what Synergy positions were.. I was referring to the JSS positions - one in the same. If I termed them incorrectly I apologize. I just thought that was what they were called and I wish they would let them loose so we could see what we were dealing with. Meaning, I want to see if any of them are going to fill my current positions or be overlapping - or if any of your positions are going to fill my positions etc. etc.

For the person that was discussing about JBP shutting down for 40 days referring to my thoughts that it was really due to building up cash reserves by not paying out 2% per day for 40 days - are you certain they were not taking in new money? I thought that new members could join and add money to their accounts. Are you certain they could not add to their accounts? If they couldn't - then for sure I would be shaking my head wondering what the deal is.. because its not a programming issue or a server move... that I believe any reasonable person could agree on. I was truly of the opinion that the pause was to take a breather, bring in new money, and essentially shut down so they didn't have to continue to pay out.

But if no one could add to their account during the sabbatical - well then I stand corrected and I'm a little more puzzled then I was when I had it all figured out :-)

I am going to take it a week at a time....full on for the next 7 days. I don't care what the naysayers say.

I didn't lie in my post about the person who makes $7.500 daily.You make me look like I am lying and I am not. I start thinking Your nickname should be jerk08. How do you like that? But I will not be calling you names here. Just let You know there are some rich people in this world who have rich friends.This person was from upper New York and his refs are probably from the same area.So do not mislead anybody here anymore.

I never said YOU were a liar, I said sounds like pure BS.

Do you personally know this person?

You have to remember, this was in the anonymity of the webinar, which I have sat in many times and concluded that it is nothing more than a confidence boiler house. A bit like a press office to feed whatever information they want to the gullible to go out and spread across the forums.

If BS was airplanes, that place would be the airport.

I do not know.I enjoy JBP web conference.It is educational. I get a lot of useful information.I think it is fun too!

if the admin did tell us when the restart would take place no one would put money in the site after a certain point and that would make the restart not be very effective at all...lol

if the admin did tell us when the restart would take place no one would put money in the site after a certain point and that would make the restart not be very effective at all...lol

simulations tonight present results tomorrow prolly cash friday for us ,and im guessin carl sid almost done

I've had a lot to say but really haven't said much - I probably shouldn't now but whatever...

Those that are whining about bashers, naysayers, etc. - its not them clogging up the board with nonsense - it's you. Your posts are the ones that are overbearing to read in my opinion. Peakr just said $7,500 is mathmatically impossible. I don't think he's bashing - but I want to know why he said it. So please respond to that Peakr. Why is it not possible? I heard my sponsor say one time in a conference that $5,000 was the daily limit. So it is interesting why someone would say they are earning $7,500 per day.

Hopefully we can discuss the following;

1.) Isn't it reasonable to believe that a restart will happen faster next time around? My thought process is this. It would seem that more people would be withdrawing money rather than investing new money because of the delay in getting JBP back up and running and the holiday season coming up.

If this is correct (its an assumption I know - but a reasonable one), then;

2.) What good are JSS Positions. If you keep getting JSS Positions added to the ones that have yet to fill linear - will they ever be filled? I realize that you have the potential to earn more - but if they never fill then what's the point? Think about it. Some would fill, but how can all of them fill?

3.) What good are Tripler positions if 65% of the newer ones are snatched away long before the 50 day mark to even break even? You don't make any money for 50 days - until day 51. Figuring you keep reinvesting for awhile... double that possibly.

I have not taken a dime out of JBP. I have reinvested everything back into JBP because I basically had a one year plan. That plan is not viable in this program because of the restart. So, if that plan is not viable then that means that someone like me would need to withdraw money sooner - much sooner in order to make some money. And up until Day 51 I'm just getting back what I already put in. And so will everyone else need to withdraw. Which is going to speed up the restart next time because the restart needs to happen to maintain positive cash flow. Right?

I want to say a couple more things. First, this is your money you have put into this program. Whether or not you should only "invest" (very loose term), what you can afford to lose - it's still your money and you have a right to know whats up with it. Some have put money in that actually cannot afford it and others have taken loans (once again - cannot afford it), and Carl encourages you to do so. But then when there are legitimate questions a lot of what you hear is "shut up" and you're a basher etc. etc. I don't see it that way.

Second, and this has always stuck with me. Months ago during a conference Carl said that he was an employee of JBP. He said and I'll quote the best I can "Everything is okay with this program, however... even if it wasn't I would tell you that it was because that is what I am paid to do". Someone responded and said "you don't have to lie to us Obama". And everyone LOL'd.

To me, that wasn't funny. I know for a fact that there are single moms in this program that can only afford to put in $50.00 and are hoping for a few extra bucks. Now, I'm not saying that Carl has lied or there is anything going wrong with JBP. But I do keep that in mind when I listen to Carl and now a few others. I don't care how much someone is paying me - if someone is getting scammed I'm going to let them know about it and you can take that to the bank. I would not trade my integrity or damage my soul by standing idly by while innocent people get hurt. Clearly those in charge don't share that sentiment. But, at least he admitted it and I know where I stand.

It's also reasonable to believe that the restart did not take 40 days even with the switch of the servers. This is fairly common sense actually and anyone with a little bit of programming skills and technical knowledge would attest to that. Be that as it may, I'm very glad JBP is back up and running almost fully. Wouldn't it be more reasonable to believe that JBP needed to pause due to financial reasons? And that's okay. If that's what needed to be done.. not payout daily 2% for over a month, and then take 65% of the 2% earnings away to keep things going - then it is what it is.

I probably should know this, but I have no clue.
I received 48 emails advising that my JSS positions have cycled. Logged in and saw no money neither in my JSS account nor in my JSS Tripler account.

When does it get credited after cycling?


Thanks.

Sure it wasn't your JSS Tripler maturing??
U get a mail when they do.. and if not awesome, it means progress
Kent

will i get JSS positions for my jss tripler positions that were deleted as a result of restart? if yes... when is that going to happen? thank you.

Hi there everybody,
I was going to enter the program, but after reading about all of this restart I am not so sure anymore.
I want to ask the expert guys around here:

1. Have you lost any money you initially spent? Do you think that, besides closing the program and the disappearance of the money, are there any risks in losing your initial investment?

2. Do you think there will be another restart like this one anytime soon?

My two cents: personally my only concern is about losing the money invested. If there are delays in my compounding, or alterations in the daily interest I don't mind. After all, we are always speaking about money for (almost) nothing here.

Thanks for your attention.

P.S. By the way, who is this Tim Walsh? Why did Chapman leave the site to another guy?

I probably should know this, but I have no clue.
I received 48 emails advising that my JSS positions have cycled. Logged in and saw no money neither in my JSS account nor in my JSS Tripler account.

When does it get credited after cycling?


Thanks.

Hi there everybody,
I was going to enter the program, but after reading about all of this restart I am not so sure anymore.
I want to ask the expert guys around here:

1. Have you lost any money you initially spent? Do you think that, besides closing the program and the disappearance of the money, are there any risks in losing your initial investment?

2. Do you think there will be another restart like this one anytime soon?

My two cents: personally my only concern is about losing the money invested. If there are delays in my compounding, or alterations in the daily interest I don't mind. After all, we are always speaking about money for (almost) nothing here.

Thanks for your attention.

P.S. By the way, who is this Tim Walsh? Why did Chapman leave the site to another guy?

It's probably your JSS Tripler positions that cycled, not JSS Positions.

When a JSS Tripler position cycled, it means it reached its 75th day expiration date and wont earn 2% per day any further.

When a JSS position cycled, it means the JSS matrix (another term for it) has been filled. There are 6 slots within a JSS position that needs to be filled. It fills up either by waiting or if you or your downlines buy placements. When a JSS position cycle, you earn $60.

If the title of the email says "Your JSS matrix is full" then your JSS position cycled.

if the title of the email says "Your JSS-tripler position has cycled today" then your JSS Tripler position cycled.

Thanks for the explanation.
This is what it says: "Your JSS-Tripler Position has cycled today!"

It also says I earned $15.00

Confusing, is'nt it?

And there're 48 of these emails that all came in at one time, stacked up on each other......if you know how gmail tends to stack up if they are coming from the same email address! LOL.


I'll wait till tomorrow to see if its these recently converted positions that are expiring after only two days of earning. I bought $500 JSS tripler positions in mid August, 2011. They should'nt be expiring now!!!

Its all making more sense now.
Thanks ClaMas

Hi there everybody,
I was going to enter the program, but after reading about all of this restart I am not so sure anymore.
I want to ask the expert guys around here:

1. Have you lost any money you initially spent? Do you think that, besides closing the program and the disappearance of the money, are there any risks in losing your initial investment?

2. Do you think there will be another restart like this one anytime soon?

My two cents: personally my only concern is about losing the money invested. If there are delays in my compounding, or alterations in the daily interest I don't mind. After all, we are always speaking about money for (almost) nothing here.

Thanks for your attention.

P.S. By the way, who is this Tim Walsh? Why did Chapman leave the site to another guy?

Thanks for the explanation.
This is what it says: "Your JSS-Tripler Position has cycled today!"

It also says I earned $15.00

Confusing, is'nt it?

And there're 48 of these emails that all came in at one time, stacked up on each other......if you know how gmail tends to stack up if they are coming from the same email address! LOL.


I'll wait till tomorrow to see if its these recently converted positions that are expiring after only two days of earning. I bought $500 JSS tripler positions in mid August, 2011. They should'nt be expiring now!!!

A post mentioned we can have more than one account, is that correct ?