Everyone make sure you attend the web conference meeting tonight at 9PM CST..
here is the direct link to the conference room... it will be a VERY big turnout...make sure you get in early as I think the room may only be able to hold 500 people... will try and post all info here directly after the meeting ends..
http://www.hotconference.com/conference,jb...yconferenceroom
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For those affected by the restart
"Assume there are 100 JSS-Tripler positions before the Restart. Assuming that 50% of your positions are converted, after the Restart you'll have 50 JSS-Tripler positions. The CAD for 50 JSS-Tripler positions is assumed to be $750. 10% of this is paid in cash, i.e., $75. This leaves a "CAD balance" of $675 to be converted into JSS positions at $20 each. This comes to 33 JSS positions, for a total of $660, with a $15 remainder. The $15 is added to the $75, giving a cash amount of $90. The 50 JSS-Tripler positions that are not converted will continue earning 2% per day for a total of $750. When these 50 JSS-Tripler positions mature, you receive 12 JSS positions. Add the 12 to the 33 above to get a total of 45 JSS positions. These 45 JSS positions will earn $60 times 45 = $2,700 when they cycle. So your total earnings after the Restart will be $90 plus $750 plus $2,700 = $3,540. " Personally speaking, this works nicely for me. I have already done my personal spreadsheet, and I think like others, I am going to be much more in the money, but held back by about 30 days, which is fine for me. The best strategy is to NOT pull out your partially cash redemption, but to buy triplers as soon as you can with all of it... This should get you back to where you were quite quickly with a bunch of jss positions to boot. Another strategy is to upgrade a few positions, and push those $60 payments straight back into triplers, that way you get back to where you were in a much shorter time indeed. I can see there will be a lot of cycling in jss with all these matrixes being fed in (if that counts in Fred's plans) So this should also help. Whatever happens, there is ALWAYS a good strategy out there, to get you back if not in a better situation with tripler. 
QUOTE (ClaMas @ Aug 25 2011, 02:49 PM)  Everyone make sure you attend the web conference meeting tonight at 9PM CST.. here is the direct link to the conference room... it will be a VERY big turnout...make sure you get in early as I think the room may only be able to hold 500 people... will try and post all info here directly after the meeting ends.. http://www.hotconference.com/conference,jb...yconferenceroom Not all of us can be there at that time, so if you attend, makes notes and post, that would be great! Thanks .gif) QUOTE (Peakr8 @ Aug 25 2011, 06:09 PM) For those affected by the restart "Assume there are 100 JSS-Tripler positions before the Restart. Assuming that 50% of your positions are converted, after the Restart you'll have 50 JSS-Tripler positions. The CAD for 50 JSS-Tripler positions is assumed to be $750. 10% of this is paid in cash, i.e., $75. This leaves a "CAD balance" of $675 to be converted into JSS positions at $20 each. This comes to 33 JSS positions, for a total of $660, with a $15 remainder. The $15 is added to the $75, giving a cash amount of $90. The 50 JSS-Tripler positions that are not converted will continue earning 2% per day for a total of $750. When these 50 JSS-Tripler positions mature, you receive 12 JSS positions. Add the 12 to the 33 above to get a total of 45 JSS positions. These 45 JSS positions will earn $60 times 45 = $2,700 when they cycle. So your total earnings after the Restart will be $90 plus $750 plus $2,700 = $3,540. " Personally speaking, this works nicely for me. I have already done my personal spreadsheet, and I think like others, I am going to be much more in the money, but held back by about 30 days, which is fine for me. The best strategy is to NOT pull out your partially cash redemption, but to buy triplers as soon as you can with all of it... This should get you back to where you were quite quickly with a bunch of jss positions to boot. Another strategy is to upgrade a few positions, and push those $60 payments straight back into triplers, that way you get back to where you were in a much shorter time indeed. I can see there will be a lot of cycling in jss with all these matrixes being fed in (if that counts in Fred's plans) So this should also help. Whatever happens, there is ALWAYS a good strategy out there, to get you back if not in a better situation with tripler. 
Maybe I should have upgraded sooner because now I will not receive any JSS positions from the restart. And there doesn't seem to be a way to upgrade now if the back-office can't be accessed.
Its not bad for those that have over 50 positions. you earn enuf daily to quickly compound back to where you were. Less than 50 its a struggle. I feel bad for those with less than 50 also, my ref bought 50 21 dys ago. What do I say to her ? and those that didn't upgrade to level 1 - they don't get anything. but: it could be worse so, chin up ! QUOTE (deb520 @ Aug 25 2011, 02:32 PM) Its not bad for those that have over 50 positions. you earn enuf daily to quickly compound back to where you were. Less than 50 its a struggle. I feel bad for those with less than 50 also, my ref bought 50 21 dys ago. What do I say to her ? and those that didn't upgrade to level 1 - they don't get anything. but: it could be worse so, chin up ! maybe someone could bring this up at the conference, hopefully during restart they will be given an opportunity to upgrade if they want to.
Just use this.. easy to understand.
QUOTE (cutypsi @ Aug 26 2011, 04:40 AM) maybe someone could bring this up at the conference, hopefully during restart they will be given an opportunity to upgrade if they want to. The algorithm should be the same for those with <50 and those with >50. Edit: There should be no mention of teams or team builds here. There are 3 strategies to overcome this relatively quickly. 1. use the partial cash payment to buy triplers, to give them a slight bump in the compounding. 2. Use the money to buy premium placements for some of the matrixes you get and buy triplers with the $60 payments. (a bit better than option 1, but may have to wait a week or 2 for the cycle). 3. use outside money to do a combination of both. (better than 2 and 3 put together). There will also be a provision for those who have not upgraded, because what is happening, is that this is a 'forced purchase' of jss positions giving 1 matrix for every $20 in your CAD balance. If Fred can not implement this 'forced purchase' purely because someone has not upgraded to be in the jss program, then 1 of 2 things can happen. 1. They will use $10 or $20 (or even loan the money) to upgrade you and the remaining balance converted to positions. 2. They will have to give you the full 100% CAD balance as cash... In which cae, you are free to buy your triplers and carry on the good fight. Please be calm, I have read all this through and I have crunched the numbers for the past 2 hours with different strategies... No matter what, in a month, this will all be forgotten and everyone will either be back to normal, close to it, or even better off for it. Those who panic and lose confidence and go into full defense 100% cashout mode will be the ultimate losers in the end. This is just my own personal opinion. I am just using pure logic to keep everyone in a positive frame of mind. Also, As much as I would love to join the conference, I anticipate hundreds being there, and has anyone ever been in a text chat room with hundreds?.... Lol. I couldn't think of anything worse. Maybe it would be a good idea for people to submit simple questions here, and then elect someone to go in and get the answers, (if they can get a word in edgeways that is)
well i have been in another program of Fred's for at least 9 years and have faith that he will do what is best as he can
Maybe it would be a good idea for people to submit simple questions here, and then elect someone to go in and get the answers, (if they can get a word in edgeways that is)
[/quote] I think you should be the one.
There's plenty of room at the conference... 56 are there now.
It's all good. Trust Fred.
QUOTE (detraephot @ Aug 25 2011, 05:27 PM) Maybe I should have upgraded sooner because now I will not receive any JSS positions from the restart. And there doesn't seem to be a way to upgrade now if the back-office can't be accessed. I dont beleive the 4 expiring tripler rule applies to a restart... it based on dollar figures so in a conversion you would recieve whats coming to you.... Do the conferences start promptly ? I'm there but don't see anything happening ? QUOTE (deb520 @ Aug 25 2011, 05:32 PM) Its not bad for those that have over 50 positions. you earn enuf daily to quickly compound back to where you were. Less than 50 its a struggle. I feel bad for those with less than 50 also, my ref bought 50 21 dys ago. What do I say to her ? and those that didn't upgrade to level 1 - they don't get anything. but: it could be worse so, chin up ! What would ever give you the idea you would not get JSS in a restart conversion.. of course you do..you pay for them...so you will get them QUOTE (mysteryman @ Aug 25 2011, 01:07 PM) As part of the move to new servers we'll do a Restart Our new JSS-Tripler Restart FAQ explains how this will work. all funds available in your accounts before the interruption will still be available to you when we reopen for business.[/b] Humm, Server problems and having to go to a new server. Seems to me that I have heard this before. I wish you all good luck. QUOTE (deb520 @ Aug 25 2011, 07:16 PM) Do the conferences start promptly ? I'm there but don't see anything happening ? starts at 9PM CST QUOTE (ClaMas @ Aug 25 2011, 08:18 PM) What would ever give you the idea you would not get JSS in a restart conversion.. of course you do..you pay for them...so you will get them Q. Does my JBP account have to be upgraded to get my JSS positions created by the Restart? A. Yes. Your JBP account needs to be upgraded to Level 1. Next to last question in the Restart FAQ ??? QUOTE (deb520 @ Aug 25 2011, 07:32 PM) Q. Does my JBP account have to be upgraded to get my JSS positions created by the Restart? A. Yes. Your JBP account needs to be upgraded to Level 1. Next to last question in the Restart FAQ ??? One of two possible answers to that ... 1) they hold the JSS positions in QUE, until you do upgrade ..then apply it to your account...OR they dont convert your triplers and leave you as is.. oh and perhaps they convert percentage of triplers to cash...my bet would be on the first one..they hold them in QUE until you have a chance to upgrade, that is what they currently do for people who have not upgraded and have passed thier 75 day tripler maturity date. But you did bring up a point I had over looked..
Hi can someone pm me a link to the program paying out 9 years love
PrincessK QUOTE (zoezeth @ Aug 25 2011, 05:54 PM) Maybe it would be a good idea for people to submit simple questions here, and then elect someone to go in and get the answers, (if they can get a word in edgeways that is) I think you should be the one. Does anyone know the answer to this? I don't want to ask too many questions but I was wondering if anyone can maybe clear something up. The restart is supposed to be for when cashflow goes into the negative. There has been no indication that the Tripler was in the negative. As a matter of fact it has only grown at an incredible rate since it began. I realize that there is a server move taking place, but what would that have to do with negative cash flow? The program hit a new record in positions being purchased just the other day and I don't understand why a restart is necessary. Why are our daily earnings being reduced by up to 50% when there is no cash flow problem? Any idea? I can't make the webinar this evening so if anyone could ask this question and post the answer in here I would really appreciate it.
i just renewed my upgrade yesterday. i'm glad i did. hopefully, the restart will be for the better.
85 people already in the conference room and the webinar doesn't start for over an hour!
QUOTE (stilltrying @ Aug 26 2011, 06:58 AM) Does anyone know the answer to this? I don't want to ask too many questions but I was wondering if anyone can maybe clear something up. The restart is supposed to be for when cashflow goes into the negative. There has been no indication that the Tripler was in the negative. As a matter of fact it has only grown at an incredible rate since it began. I realize that there is a server move taking place, but what would that have to do with negative cash flow? The program hit a new record in positions being purchased just the other day and I don't understand why a restart is necessary. Why are our daily earnings being reduced by up to 50% when there is no cash flow problem? Any idea? I can't make the webinar this evening so if anyone could ask this question and post the answer in here I would really appreciate it. 88 people in there now... I will try to post it for you if i get the chance.. I have a question of my own i want addressing first. i am sure that question of yours will be asked by someone, there is a lot of people thought about that 'me included'. But i put it down to the fact that we were always approaching a restart anyway.. It was always going to happen, and they also have a glitch in the system where triplers have been getting over place and people have been getting more than they should have... I mean, a LOT of people, me and my girlfriend included. So with the major move and obviously this problem, then i think It would be a good idea to also bring the inevitable forward and get everything sorted out in one big move, and we can all start afresh without the fear of another restart possible for a minimum of 6 months or so. If I was running this program, I would be considering the exact same maneuvers. My question if i get the chance to ask it, will be: Can you clarify for us, about this huge feed into the jss matrix system.... Will this create a huge amount of cycling?... Or is all cycling effects to be nullified for this occasion. I think this is important to many members with regards to over-populating the jss system with a huge amount of empty matrixes.... Thus slowing down all future cycling. Edited to add... 103 in the room and climbing
I am excited about the restart at least now we will know what we can expect from each restart in the future.
I do not think it is going to be as bad as some are making it out to be. Yeah it is a pain in the butt losing half of our Tripler positions but we will all make money when our matrices cycle and how quickly they cycle will be dependent on everyone purchasing premium placements. The key here is NO money is lost unlike so many other programs of this type the admin is not running off with our cash. We just need to reinvest all we possibly can to get back to where we were before the restart. Long Live JBP/JSS Tripler
doing the math if i keep doing the 5:2 strategy 45 days from now even without cycling any matrix in jss surf ill be exactly where im at right now id say i can wait 45 days to protect the longevity of the program.and not fuss one bit . one quick question there were so many people only in jss tripler that have not upgraded in jbp level one what happens to their half of positions since they dont have any matrices yet? will they be given the option to upgrade so they can get the free positions , and if they still do not want them will they vanish or get absorbed into our matrices? also i notice if you do not have any placements or premium upgrades in the jss surf that any tripler feed itjust makes a bunch new matrices to be filled instead of filling any of them will they give us time with that cash cad to buy a bunch of placements so that our matrices dont get bigger but actually fill faster via this huge feed?
Better wait and see what happens in 3 or 4 days before singing praises and working on new strategies.
QUOTE (Peakr8 @ Aug 25 2011, 07:12 PM) 88 people in there now... I will try to post it for you if i get the chance.. I have a question of my own i want addressing first. i am sure that question of yours will be asked by someone, there is a lot of people thought about that 'me included'. But i put it down to the fact that we were always approaching a restart anyway.. It was always going to happen, and they also have a glitch in the system where triplers have been getting over place and people have been getting more than they should have... I mean, a LOT of people, me and my girlfriend included. So with the major move and obviously this problem, then i think It would be a good idea to also bring the inevitable forward and get everything sorted out in one big move, and we can all start afresh without the fear of another restart possible for a minimum of 6 months or so. If I was running this program, I would be considering the exact same maneuvers. My question if i get the chance to ask it, will be: Can you clarify for us, about this huge feed into the jss matrix system.... Will this create a huge amount of cycling?... Or is all cycling effects to be nullified for this occasion. I think this is important to many members with regards to over-populating the jss system with a huge amount of empty matrixes.... Thus slowing down all future cycling. Edited to add... 103 in the room and climbing Thanks Peakr8 I appreciate it. You also have a good question as I have around 140 SynergySurf positions waiting to cycle. I don't need more but I understand if I do receive more. Thanks again.
Yesterday i was reading the restart feature in tripler. I kinda knew it would happen sometime soon due to the volume of members joining everyday. But I didn't think it would happen this soon. Will just have to wait and see in three days and work with what we have.
i am new to jbp, i have a business verified alertpay account, can it be used to let my downline upgrade?
The JustBeenPaid Conference Room is lighting up. If you need something answered you should go over there.
QUOTE (nelson7lim @ Aug 26 2011, 08:30 AM) i am new to jbp, i have a business verified alertpay account, can it be used to let my downline upgrade? Yes you can.. just send the money to their AP account.. Thats the simplest method. QUOTE (Peakr8 @ Aug 26 2011, 10:03 AM) Yes you can.. just send the money to their AP account.. Thats the simplest method. Please give us updates and suggestions. It's Fred so I'm not at all worried.
think positive
QUOTE (unlimitedincome @ Aug 25 2011, 08:18 PM) think positive In other words... NOT PARTICIPATING IN ANY NEGATIVE ACTION OF ANY KIND NOT PARTICIPATING IN ANY NEGATIVE ACTION OF ANY KIND NOT PARTICIPATING IN ANY NEGATIVE ACTION OF ANY KIND NOT PARTICIPATING IN ANY NEGATIVE ACTION OF ANY KIND NOT PARTICIPATING IN ANY NEGATIVE ACTION OF ANY KIND NOT PARTICIPATING IN ANY NEGATIVE ACTION OF ANY KIND
Any new news to come out of the conference?
The latest developements are good or bad...?
 Just curious Cheerios QUOTE (goodguy333 @ Aug 26 2011, 11:31 AM) The latest developements are good or bad...? Just curious Cheerios Good. Will do this when site reopens... " The best and safest time to buy JSS-Tripler positions is after a Restart. Be sure to take advantage of this situation when we reopen for business! " Compound Buy PREMIUM.
Does anyone know how much alert pay and Just Been Paid Charges for using the credit card option when you pay for triplers with AP?
Thanks in advance.
everyone is to quite now...... has me a bit worried
Correct me if wrong guys Im trying to compute 300 JSS tripler after restart
300/2 = 150 will be my current JSS tripler postion after restart 150 x 15 = 2250 x10% = $225 would go to my balance 2250 - 225 = 2025/20 = 101.25 101 = JSS position added .25 x 20 = $5 remainder total cash recieved = 225+5 = $230 so with this 101 JSS position does this mean I have 50 placement that would fill in my matrix right? QUOTE (uruchimaro @ Aug 26 2011, 10:43 AM) Correct me if wrong guys Im trying to compute 300 JSS tripler after restart 300/2 = 150 will be my current JSS tripler postion after restart 150 x 15 = 2250 x10% = $225 would go to my balance 2250 - 225 = 2025/20 = 101.25 101 = JSS position added .25 x 20 = $5 remainder total cash recieved = 225+5 = $230 so with this 101 JSS position does this mean I have 50 placement that would fill in my matrix right? Miles out... You have not taken into account CAD.. Look back a page or 2 in this thread for my explanation of CAD.. If it is a 50% restart (it could be more, it could be less). But we will assume 50% for the sake of argument. They will take the 50% 'OLDEST' triplers from your account and compute what each one is worth.. If one is 50 days old, then you already earned $10 from it, so it has a CAD value of $5... (Not $15 like you have based your figures on.) You need to find out the age of each of your oldest 50% triplers and add all the values together to find your total CAD wealth. Then you can start doing the rest of the math. Also, you can only upgrade the top 2 of your matrixes, the bottom four can only be filled by your downline upgrading or from your remaining triplers expiring. You can upgrade them to premium so they get priority overspill, but that will slow down now for a while until it all picks up again. I am thinking more about the amount of uncycled matrixes sitting in jss, and how much all those will be upgraded to premium. I think this will put the brakes on quite a bit. I really wanted to try to get my question answered about whether all these new matrixes would be cycling the existing ones when they hit the system? That to everyone should be the most important issue. QUOTE (goodguy333 @ Aug 25 2011, 08:31 PM) The latest developements are good or bad...? Just curious Cheerios I am very hopeful that everything will be great here.
Also for all those members wanting to know what went down at the conference...
Basically a handful of rude people screaming SCAM, and the rest of the crowd, trying to reassure them that everything is fine. Just a bump in the road, and that we are better off in JBP than any other program which would have been gone with everything. Carl did not really update the situation or give out any more information that wasn't already available. So everyone will have to wait out the 3 days (minimum). to see what the restart rate will be. I hope it is less than 50%. But I am not holding my breath. Anyway.... the conference was exactly like I feared it would be, no way could anyone get an answer... I actually timed it, and there were 235 lines of text in a single minute alone. The gives everyone an idea about how impossible it was. Maybe the next few will be a bit more relaxed and we can get a decent update to work off. Hope this answers some of your questions.
Thanks for the info Peakr8
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iam not registered yet in jbp, because i still confused about something....still doing calculations.. i have a question please : if i have two referrals called (x1 , y1), and both of these two referrals has also 2 referrals each. and all of us in this tree bought (4 jss-tripplier) so after 75 days they matured and give us all a free 1 jss-matrix position each...so my first question is : is that mean my own free matrix cycled now and i will get 60 $ immidiatly??? or i should refer other people to my free matrix and they must pay (20$) as a cost of the jss matrix position in snergy surf thing??? my second question : suppose one of my referrals have alot of already matured jss-tripler such as 40 postions and the result of that he gets a free 10 jss-matrices , but for me as a sponser i just have a 1 free jss-matrix , so what about his other 9 jss-matrices positions are they still under my name or they will wait me until i get 9 more free jss-matrices so they can fill my future matrices later or they will just travel to other strange member or what??? sorry about my long post, but the answer for this is a very important to me thanks all
Thanks@zoezeth,letsearn4ever and peakr8
Purchased my first position 25 days ago. Honestly can't decide if I would rather have them restarted or not. Guess I'll have to wait patiently for a few day and see what happens.
Any ideas on the positions that won't be restarted? Will it be status quo? I believe in the long run this is the best option for all of us. I did get a little concerned when he eluded to downlines that have been purchased. I've been lucky enough to purchase one but it hasn't placed. Have to see what happens there. QUOTE (goodguy333 @ Aug 26 2011, 12:36 PM) Thanks@zoezeth,letsearn4ever and peakr8 welcome. |
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