I can see that many of you dear friends are pissed off with this restart. I am sorry for you, but can't help. Anyway, this is my first restart, and it didn't go bad for me at all. As a very small account restart took away 2 pos. from me (20%), and in return I got 19,40 $. (no matrix, understandably).
I don't know, but I really feel bad about you who had 50-75% converts, and I do understand your anger, but at the same time, maybe your accounts already earned a bunch of money, and that could be the main reason.
My friend i wish that were true.....after 3 re starts i will be lucky to have reclaimed a third of my total original investment. You may have been lucky, im pleased someone has....but i would make the most of it if i were you....good luck.
brianmac
Jul 31 2012, 06:21 AM
Cant get into conference room....its full.. what a suprise, it must be hotter than hell in there
redsnapper
Jul 31 2012, 06:35 AM
Think about : Reflect on Sit And Ponder Your Chances of Success Deeply and Thoroughly.
"time heals all wounds"
The point here, though, is that time does NOT heal all wounds. A more apt saying is “IT’S WHAT YOU DO WITH THE TIME THAT HEALS.” Like any other aspect of life, mourning is an active, working process, not a passive one.
Obviously we are shocked by this restart maybe more then expected but I anticipated it because with all Payment Processor for the past 30 days with Major Issues for funding JBP.
Now its up to the IT to get things moving faster so we can all benifit from our work...
I move forward as always never concentrating on the past as we cannot change it... They say use what you have.
Cant get into conference room....its full.. what a suprise, it must be hotter than hell in there
I am in, and it is calm and fine. We are drinking coffee, and having a chat about the weather. Nothing important. Don't be sorry, you are not missing a thing.
Atomreal
Jul 31 2012, 06:52 AM
Not bad for the first restart of mine, 32% ;-)
PAudio
Jul 31 2012, 06:55 AM
QUOTE (friend77 @ Jul 31 2012, 11:53 AM)
72% of positions converted. ??? I don't have a big account at all. How did I fall under the category of big accounts??
People are right when they say that positions bought after the cut-off date SHOULDN'T BE COUNTED in the next restart. This is very disrespectful what they are trying to do. and yes, EVEN for the sustainability of the program - irrelevant, it's still disrespectful to their own users.
I hope that someone from their site is reading this thread and see how this is getting appreciated. People ARE GOING TO MAKE CALCULATIONS about what happened. What are they kidding? They thought users wouldn't do that??? As if people wouldn't bother or something?
Why would anyone from now on ever again purchase triplers AFTER the cut-off date if they are just gonna use those triplers inside a restart calculation? I would feel stupid if I did. This will be learned and taken into consideration by the users - yes, the people who buy triplers after the cut-off date, mainly by them.
First we get the restart 2 months later from the previous one, and not giving us a chance to expire our triplers from at least one date (all the triplers from that date, not just a percentage of them), and now they are completely disrespecting their own rule of the cut-off date. It's getting extremely unattractive to buy any triplers. Users will see how the program is changing and buy triplers accordingly, if they are planning to make it unattractive from now on, less and less triplers will be bought by each users separately (although there IS more users in the program than before, but that isn't the point). I wasn't even given my earnings for my triplers for the last two days - and yet they have enough time and resources to enforce and push a restart through before the SAME resources are used to give us our daily earnings. ???
The situation is only getting worse just to keep the program sustainable, and they won't stop doing this. More disrespecting of their own words will probably be on it's way. I predict that the next restart will be even worse than the current one.
I'm certainly telling my friends to reconsider this program and rather go somewhere else. Anywhere. This isn't the same program I signed up for this year. Nor it is the program people were earning from last year. Extreme changes were made, the earning capabilities were lowered considerably, and it will continue like this. I confused that they think that such actions are actually "helpful" to the program.
We should all face the fact that they are not able to handle the growth of this program without ruining completely the ability for people to earn from the program.
I have no more incentive to invest any more money in this program. Completely lost it by this actions applied onto us for no deserving reason given.
Cheating, lying and tricking people "just to keep the program alive" or "for the benefit of the program" doesn't cut it for me. Total nonsense. That's EXACTLY what we can see that hyip programs start doing to their own users eventually. JBP is beginning to turn in that direction. They want complete trust from us, and for that, at least NOW, we are given dishonest actions AGAINST us. How can you expect trust like this?
Guys what are you mourning about. Have you had the chance to read the Restart FAQ's. http://static.justbeenpaid.com/training/re...art-FAQ.html#q4. A restart is to your advantage because your positions are expired earlier than normal and converted into JSS Matrice positions which will give you an earning of $60 per Matrix Position. After this restart my potential earnings are more than $1,000 above what I would have got if the Tripler positions had been left to expire. Just give JBP a chance to update your earnings due to this restart before you start complaining.
deathrow
Jul 31 2012, 06:59 AM
Mine was around 50%, which is cool, i rather have this program stay then go, i remember the first restart i lost 75% positions and i kept withdrawing "big mistake" on my part.
It had the same anger by members back then but hey if this last another yr, il take this restart with a pinch of salt and carry on buying triplers, its all good.
Always remember, noone can give you 2% a day, if you were to make 50% profit a year from this, then consider this the best program, period, Disagree? Send me a link of a program which has been proven to make more 50%+ a yr in profits.
PAudio
Jul 31 2012, 06:59 AM
QUOTE (englishman @ Jul 31 2012, 11:49 AM)
I don't see how they can say they are paying 2% a day when they have these restarts and take a big hunk of your money away. I'm back to where I was on May 15th. People are saying restarts make it sustainable. It's easy to be sustainable when the net profit is chickenfeed. I may stay in but it goes way down on my list of good programs. Jim E.
Did you included in your computation how much you have withdrawn from your account?
I have been building my account and have only taken out 50% of my seed money so far. What does that have to do with anything anyway? I was RIPPED off.
PAudio
Jul 31 2012, 07:05 AM
QUOTE (gotbliss56 @ Jul 31 2012, 09:39 AM)
What is approximate time to find out how many matrixes we received from the restart?
You can check by clicking on "Latest Restart" link which is between "Positions" & "Referrals".
monicvan
Jul 31 2012, 07:07 AM
I was hit 75% hope to get some big matrix cycling. I have made so much with this program that there is no way I can be mad with my results. I will just start building again. A few hundreds every month is better than pie in the sky.
wizzy
Jul 31 2012, 07:09 AM
Wow, everybody in the conference room sound like an angry mob from a million man march.
steelkid
Jul 31 2012, 07:10 AM
stp payouts available now
sweetz617
Jul 31 2012, 07:12 AM
HURRY UP GUYS STP IS OPEN!!!
10BucksUp
Jul 31 2012, 07:16 AM
QUOTE (Ringle1 @ Jul 31 2012, 11:04 PM)
I have been building my account and have only taken out 50% of my seed money so far. What does that have to do with anything anyway? I was RIPPED off.
I believe those are factored in. Nobody gets ripped off here. I was also hysterical in my first restart, but if I let my emotion overwhelm me, I would have quit here and put my money on those other programs that promises they will be better than JBP. Guess what, those programs are gone now.
steelkid
Jul 31 2012, 07:18 AM
QUOTE (Ringle1 @ Jul 31 2012, 04:04 PM)
I have been building my account and have only taken out 50% of my seed money so far. What does that have to do with anything anyway? I was RIPPED off.
people do you know who makes over a 20% return a YEAR in the Financial Markets? The very top 5% money managers.In this programs people want to make 50% overnight and it does not work that way. People,money does not come out of thin air. You have to work smart and Your expectations can't be that high. If you want to maker higher returns then you cannot be passive :You have to get out there,set up websites,buid mailing lists and promote.Hard .If you want to make it big in this and other programs You have to treat it like a business not a miracle Money Machine
Atomreal
Jul 31 2012, 07:27 AM
Did you withdraw before the restart many times? Don't blame the program now and don't cry or sob that it took you lots of positions.. since now all who didn't withdraw before, have the opportunity to earn as you did ;-)
shrik1
Jul 31 2012, 07:27 AM
QUOTE (deathrow @ Jul 31 2012, 04:59 PM)
Mine was around 50%, which is cool, i rather have this program stay then go, i remember the first restart i lost 75% positions and i kept withdrawing "big mistake" on my part.
It had the same anger by members back then but hey if this last another yr, il take this restart with a pinch of salt and carry on buying triplers, its all good.
Always remember, noone can give you 2% a day, if you were to make 50% profit a year from this, then consider this the best program, period, Disagree? Send me a link of a program which has been proven to make more 50%+ a yr in profits.
There takya programa! Attention to the second link in my signature! I started it with $ 200! At the end of March! Today I have 900 per month! However 50% is for support and Reinvest program's conditions. I wish all the profit!
Ringle1
Jul 31 2012, 07:44 AM
QUOTE (10BucksUp @ Jul 31 2012, 11:16 AM)
I believe those are factored in. Nobody gets ripped off here. I was also hysterical in my first restart, but if I let my emotion overwhelm me, I would have quit here and put my money on those other programs that promises they will be better than JBP. Guess what, those programs are gone now.
I know what you are saying, I guess ripped off is a little harsh, but it will take me for ever to build it back up. I guess with the restart at least I will get the chance to build it back, which is much better than having admin just run with all of the money like I have seen somany times. I plan to stay because it is still better than anything else out there.
friend77
Jul 31 2012, 07:52 AM
QUOTE (deathrow @ Jul 31 2012, 07:59 AM)
Always remember, noone can give you 2% a day, if you were to make 50% profit a year from this, then consider this the best program, period, Disagree? Send me a link of a program which has been proven to make more 50%+ a yr in profits.
If they can't - than they shouldn't. But they do claim that as if they can, on their videos, advertisements and on the website. This is claimed, although they are not able to do it. And again we seem to be "asking too much", when we are asking them just to tell us the truth, nothing above that. They can come out with the truth, officially, and let people accept it as it is. If they can't pay the daily earnings, than what they should do is REMOVE the daily earnings. But this will not be done because they require this in their advertising to make people join and make them deposit money. False claims will be continued just to get more people in - the ones they can't cope with, yet they easily cope with their deposits.
I don't even know why people are comparing this to "what happened last year". Today's JBP isn't "last year's" JBP. I wish it was, but the number of current members and the problems that are becoming visible with them, doesn't make it so.
mmo1991
Jul 31 2012, 07:58 AM
any news about daily earning?? We are 3 days behind...
makedollar
Jul 31 2012, 07:58 AM
QUOTE (Ringle1 @ Jul 31 2012, 11:44 AM)
I know what you are saying, I guess ripped off is a little harsh, but it will take me for ever to build it back up. I guess with the restart at least I will get the chance to build it back, which is much better than having admin just run with all of the money like I have seen somany times. I plan to stay because it is still better than anything else out there.
I did get my daily earning from positions for Sunday and Monday. I started this program on 7/16 it appears to me im not affected by the restarts. However, do I have to wait for my daily % earning? Is it running behind? Anyone have similar issue?
luvbug06
Jul 31 2012, 08:17 AM
QUOTE (amitvikramfx @ Jul 24 2012, 09:31 AM)
First of All, GOD BLESS YOU !!!
You can buy triplers at your own convenience, no need to buy at multiple of 4. They suggest to buy in multiple of 4 because you'll get 1 matrix for every 4 triplers expire(As soon as you upgrade to level 1- $15/quarter). If 3 triplers expired today, and 4th tripler will expire after that than there will be no problem, as that 4th tripler will be grouped with that 3 triplers expired previously.
GET WELL SOON!!!
QUOTE (Blondie @ Jul 24 2012, 10:16 AM)
luvbug06
I am so sorry to hear about your accident. Was it a car accident or bicycle or what? Your ankle injury sounds awful. Yes, TG for those pain meds eh?
I see someone else responded to your question so I won't repeat it.
Just wanted to say Get Well Soon and maybe while you're recovering you can spend more time with us here?
Thank you for your kind words
I had surgery on the 26th. The surgeon was able to pull it all together and hold it with one plate and one pin.
I am still on pain medications and it is a struggle for me to focus. I am reading the forum as much as possible and also reading any updates which JBP sends out.
What I am reading on the forum today is that the folks who are the most upset about the restart are those folks who have not yet pulled their initial spend from the program.
On the July 26 conference call a member said that he had not gotten his initial spend out of the system and Mann was like, "Well, that's not right; you should do that." (I don't recall exactly what Mann said, but that was the gist.)
redsnapper said here to pay yourself 25% and then buy triplers with 75%. When do you start the 25%/75%? If you bought after the July 16th cutoff should you be paying yourself now, or will you build until something like the end of August and then pay yourself?
Bluesik
Jul 31 2012, 08:19 AM
QUOTE (makedollar @ Jul 31 2012, 05:58 PM)
I did get my daily earning from positions for Sunday and Monday. I started this program on 7/16 it appears to me im not affected by the restarts. However, do I have to wait for my daily % earning? Is it running behind? Anyone have similar issue?
Yes, daily earnings are running behind. Altho you should already have your % for the Sunday if you're claiming that you started on 7/16 (unless you had an old account) Hopefully they will run Monday and Tuesday as one day.
Atomreal
Jul 31 2012, 09:09 AM
QUOTE (Bluesik @ Jul 31 2012, 06:19 PM)
Yes, daily earnings are running behind. Altho you should already have your % for the Sunday if you're claiming that you started on 7/16 (unless you had an old account) Hopefully they will run Monday and Tuesday as one day.
I still wait for it, I know I get it for sure ;-)
babe
Jul 31 2012, 09:13 AM
has the restart started already? my triplers position is cut in half.
Bluesik
Jul 31 2012, 09:17 AM
QUOTE (babe @ Jul 31 2012, 07:13 PM)
has the restart started already? my triplers position is cut in half.
Yes, actually it has already finished. and obviously you didn't bother to check like 50 previous topic pages.
Restart conversion 52%, so not too bad. Last restart didn't effect me at all so in this respect I cannot complain. So I just purchased new triplers with the rest in my account.
But a restart is only advantageous when JSS is cycling in a timely manner, else it is a loss. So they should get this going very soon or this was my last restart here as it gets useless then without getting JSS matrices for compensation!
Tobwithu
unlimitedincome
Jul 31 2012, 09:30 AM
egopay is open!! go go go
luvbug06
Jul 31 2012, 09:36 AM
QUOTE (luvbug06 @ Jul 31 2012, 10:29 AM)
Cindy L in the conference room shared this screenshot. This is her restart. She has been through all of the restarts.
Here is another screenshot. This possibly is the most recent restart. Cindy L Restart 2
steelkid
Jul 31 2012, 09:49 AM
QUOTE (Tobwithu @ Jul 31 2012, 06:29 PM)
Restart conversion 52%, so not too bad. Last restart didn't effect me at all so in this respect I cannot complain. So I just purchased new triplers with the rest in my account.
But a restart is only advantageous when JSS is cycling in a timely manner, else it is a loss. So they should get this going very soon or this was my last restart here as it gets useless then without getting JSS matrices for compensation!
Tobwithu
JSS matrices simply have not been working for at least a month.No premiums being filled ,no tripler feed ,no cycling,JSS has been a dead area for a while .
10BucksUp
Jul 31 2012, 09:56 AM
QUOTE (steelkid @ Aug 1 2012, 01:49 AM)
JSS matrices simply have not been working for at leat a month.No premiums,no tripler feed ,no cycling,JSS has been a dead area
The restart should hasten the cycling of matrixes. I actually have premium placements that got filled 7/22 after the lull started 7/7.
chouchou
Jul 31 2012, 10:31 AM
I have been trying to withdraw money for a week now and impossible to do it. I am always getting the same message
"Sorry, the overall daily limit for this payment processor has been reached. In order to maintain a balance between available funds in the various payment processors, we have both overall and individual daily withdrawal limits for each processor. We recommend trying earlier (or later) in the day, or at a different payment processor."
I am trying 3 times a day at different time with both STP and Ego pay and still not work. By the way I have surf my 25 websites.
Sent a ticket to support but no answer!
I am getting a bit worry
Thanks
tibetan113
Jul 31 2012, 10:39 AM
QUOTE (PAudio @ Jul 31 2012, 07:55 AM)
Guys what are you mourning about. Have you had the chance to read the Restart FAQ's. http://static.justbeenpaid.com/training/re...art-FAQ.html#q4. A restart is to your advantage because your positions are expired earlier than normal and converted into JSS Matrice positions which will give you an earning of $60 per Matrix Position. After this restart my potential earnings are more than $1,000 above what I would have got if the Tripler positions had been left to expire. Just give JBP a chance to update your earnings due to this restart before you start complaining.
Guys! Stop buying triplers! You are supposed to buy placements and upgrades for jss, this is the only reason why they get converted to jss. We ARE SUPPOSED to PLAY JSS!
Guys, if you are lucky enough to have any daily earnings to buy placements and upgrades for jss and repurchase triplers to build your account, please take it as a wake up call and start doing this now.
Forget about the 2%, its unsustainable. WHo wants to build up to get knocked down again, I was at this amount four months ago. I was barely in profit too.
I got hit over 64% and I am only going to do jss so by the time the next restart happens, its nothing I need to worry about since I am now counting on my income to come from jss.
Time for a brand new strategy. This is truly a $$ game and I don't want to quit.
Atomreal
Jul 31 2012, 10:41 AM
QUOTE (chouchou @ Jul 31 2012, 08:31 PM)
I have been trying to withdraw money for a week now and impossible to do it. I am always getting the same message
"Sorry, the overall daily limit for this payment processor has been reached. In order to maintain a balance between available funds in the various payment processors, we have both overall and individual daily withdrawal limits for each processor. We recommend trying earlier (or later) in the day, or at a different payment processor."
I am trying 3 times a day at different time with both STP and Ego pay and still not work. By the way I have surf my 25 websites.
Sent a ticket to support but no answer!
I am getting a bit worry
Thanks
Be patient bro, maybe try to reinvest a bit that will calm down you.
dahard
Jul 31 2012, 10:52 AM
Tripler earnings are 3 days behind,yeah JBP is becoming real SLOW!
dahard
Jul 31 2012, 10:56 AM
And they say it's around 50% conversion,well:
Percentage of JSS-Tripler Positions Converted to JSS Positions (ACP): 75%
Bah Bah!
10BucksUp
Jul 31 2012, 10:59 AM
QUOTE (tibetan113 @ Aug 1 2012, 02:39 AM)
Guys! Stop buying triplers! You are supposed to buy placements and upgrades for jss, this is the only reason why they get converted to jss. We ARE SUPPOSED to PLAY JSS!
Guys, if you are lucky enough to have any daily earnings to buy placements and upgrades for jss and repurchase triplers to build your account, please take it as a wake up call and start doing this now.
Forget about the 2%, its unsustainable. WHo wants to build up to get knocked down again, I was at this amount four months ago. I was barely in profit too.
I got hit over 64% and I am only going to do jss so by the time the next restart happens, its nothing I need to worry about since I am now counting on my income to come from jss.
Time for a brand new strategy. This is truly a $$ game and I don't want to quit.
Not a good idea. That is how you dont grow. Buy 100% triplers at the onset of restart for about 2-4 weeks, then gradually decrease buying triplers and start withdrawing more. Always buy triplers everyday or regularly, so that when restart happens, the triplers you accumulated are more than enough while the withdrawing will also accumulate money to your account. Meanwhile, the matrixes you worked on are also cycling. So you have two sources of income now - the triplers and the matrixes. That is how you earn.
wizzy
Jul 31 2012, 11:00 AM
Woah, the whole entire mod squad is in the JBP daily conference even snoop doggy dog. It's like a gangsta party all over again. They're saying matrices will bring you extra money later, so don't worry about your daily activity earnings being screwed.
friend77
Jul 31 2012, 11:07 AM
QUOTE (wizzy @ Jul 31 2012, 12:00 PM)
Woah, the whole entire mod squad is in the JBP daily conference even snoop doggy dog. It's like a gangsta party all over again. They're saying matrices will bring you extra money later, so don't worry about your daily activity earnings being screwed.
Buahahaha I hope they don't forget to tell people that they should promote some more ahahaha
10BucksUp
Jul 31 2012, 11:09 AM
QUOTE (wizzy @ Aug 1 2012, 03:00 AM)
Woah, the whole entire mod squad is in the JBP daily conference even snoop doggy dog. It's like a gangsta party all over again. They're saying matrices will bring you extra money later, so don't worry about your daily activity earnings being screwed.
It always worked that way since the first restart. This is the time to buy lots of triplers. Restart feed will bring in money as it stimulates matrix cyclings. You can even use the money from the cycled matrixes to buy more tripler positions.
We have it worse then, because when the restart happens there are no warnings. I dont even go to the conference room in the past. Now you have like 16 days to buy tripler positions everyday before the restart. That would have added around 30% of tripler positions in the account using the old triplers plus any new money you used.
mikeb66
Jul 31 2012, 11:13 AM
How long until the restart positions show up in my JSS?
tibetan113
Jul 31 2012, 11:20 AM
QUOTE (10BucksUp @ Jul 31 2012, 11:59 AM)
Not a good idea. That is how you dont grow. Buy 100% triplers at the onset of restart for about 2-4 weeks, then gradually decrease buying triplers and start withdrawing more. Always buy triplers everyday or regularly, so that when restart happens, the triplers you accumulated are more than enough while the withdrawing will also accumulate money to your account. Meanwhile, the matrixes you worked on are also cycling. So you have two sources of income now - the triplers and the matrixes. That is how you earn.
Yeah thats the idea. You broke it down to how to really work the program. I just meant in general:Forget about the triplers. I am like most, I have loads of jss positions that need attention to. I am using all of my earnings to placements and upgrades. Yeah, I may have no earnings or run real low but cycling matices will give me money and when I have my money, I can buy new triplers or more triplers to add to the rest from jss earnings. so no matter how you look at it, its all going back to tripler and then JSS.
BeauDean
Jul 31 2012, 11:27 AM
HAHA I just went from 376 active tripler positions, to 172 OVER NIGHT..... man that hurt. Oh well i guess if it keeps this thing going... 204 positions converted. there went $40 per day in earnings... back to square one
luvbug06
Jul 31 2012, 11:56 AM
Snoop is laying in to Lynndel and ElmerFudd. "And Lynndel and ElmerFudd over there on MMG, tell us all something we don't already know! You aren't saying anything new."
Is that good or bad?
HyipHunterTeam
Jul 31 2012, 12:00 PM
Paying
Date: 7/31/2012 1:52 AM Batch: 105246677 From Account: U5517650 (JustBeenPaid) Amount: $42.00 Memo:
Thank you.
NikaM
Jul 31 2012, 12:04 PM
Snoop is being amazing out there in the conference!
Bluesik
Jul 31 2012, 12:14 PM
QUOTE (NikaM @ Jul 31 2012, 10:04 PM)
Snoop is being amazing out there in the conference!
Always a pleasure to listen to him
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