I suppose both of you didn't do your research before joining JBP. Restart / Matrices are very important part of JBP and you probably ignored it or didn't want to use it.
Now all the rats will abandon the ship and it will sink. I hope that I'm wrong tho.

Please consider how fast this restart was executed in the face of the sluggishness of execution when it comes to things like payments and the adding of matrix positions.

My positions total was more than halved. (67% of my tripler positions from before the cut-off date, have been wiped).

Earnings for the 28th have been returned. If they're going to manage this properly, then we should all get returns for the 29th and 30th based on the number of positions we had on these dates.

I was able to buy 30 new tripler positions from my balance trying to recover from the 115 tripler positions loss due to the restart. Let's see if another retart will stay away long enough so that I can recoup and make money again.

My sponsor warned that this restart will be cruel and Mann did not keep his word 50%! But I was ready!
The Board does not believe everything anyone ever!
This is a business and if so should the rules need to take or leave!
Good luck and profit for all of us here!

Yes restart is better
i am not angry of the restart but

i am anygry of
i cannot cashout
my position are not being placed what i purchased just like everyones

i am trying to cashout now and let you know....

Totally agree.

can anyone log in to the site at the moment?

Still the here Same hope it they pay

Sorry, the overall daily limit for this payment processor has been reached.
In order to maintain a balance between available funds in the various payment processors,
we have both overall and individual daily withdrawal limits for each processor.
We recommend trying earlier in the day, or at a different payment processor.

You're either unlucky or just checking site in the wrong time. Try 3-5 AM Server time.

My friend/s are W/D on a daily basis so try harder

yes it is frustrating to chase the withdrawal window... I totally agree with that!

But i don't see why they dun open it more after

1. This BIG restart
2. The support team is not bigger
3. The Tripler earning should go back to normal now that the script will run on less Tripler.... I think they also added some servers to easy the load a little!

Let's see how it develop! Time always tell!

Webmaster's time to solve the problem with the payment!
If there is no panic and death!

Let us see what happens now, Onwards

Dont understand all this concern. We all new about the restart. We just have to continue building up our account and then "play" the jss positions. When that happens will see again a boom in our account. We just need to stay calm. We have to think long term...

I don't see how they can say they are paying 2% a day when they have these restarts and take a big hunk of your money away. I'm back to where I was on May 15th. People are saying restarts make it sustainable. It's easy to be sustainable when the net profit is chickenfeed. I may stay in but it goes way down on my list of good programs.
Jim E.

72% of positions converted. ???
I don't have a big account at all. How did I fall under the category of big accounts??

People are right when they say that positions bought after the cut-off date SHOULDN'T BE COUNTED in the next restart. This is very disrespectful what they are trying to do. and yes, EVEN for the sustainability of the program - irrelevant, it's still disrespectful to their own users.

I hope that someone from their site is reading this thread and see how this is getting appreciated. People ARE GOING TO MAKE CALCULATIONS about what happened. What are they kidding? They thought users wouldn't do that??? As if people wouldn't bother or something?

Why would anyone from now on ever again purchase triplers AFTER the cut-off date if they are just gonna use those triplers inside a restart calculation? I would feel stupid if I did. This will be learned and taken into consideration by the users - yes, the people who buy triplers after the cut-off date, mainly by them.

First we get the restart 2 months later from the previous one, and not giving us a chance to expire our triplers from at least one date (all the triplers from that date, not just a percentage of them), and now they are completely disrespecting their own rule of the cut-off date.
It's getting extremely unattractive to buy any triplers. Users will see how the program is changing and buy triplers accordingly, if they are planning to make it unattractive from now on, less and less triplers will be bought by each users separately (although there IS more users in the program than before, but that isn't the point). I wasn't even given my earnings for my triplers for the last two days - and yet they have enough time and resources to enforce and push a restart through before the SAME resources are used to give us our daily earnings. ???

The situation is only getting worse just to keep the program sustainable, and they won't stop doing this. More disrespecting of their own words will probably be on it's way. I predict that the next restart will be even worse than the current one.

I'm certainly telling my friends to reconsider this program and rather go somewhere else. Anywhere. This isn't the same program I signed up for this year. Nor it is the program people were earning from last year. Extreme changes were made, the earning capabilities were lowered considerably, and it will continue like this. I confused that they think that such actions are actually "helpful" to the program.

We should all face the fact that they are not able to handle the growth of this program without ruining completely the ability for people to earn from the program.

I have no more incentive to invest any more money in this program. Completely lost it by this actions applied onto us for no deserving reason given.

Cheating, lying and tricking people "just to keep the program alive" or "for the benefit of the program" doesn't cut it for me. Total nonsense.
That's EXACTLY what we can see that hyip programs start doing to their own users eventually. JBP is beginning to turn in that direction. They want complete trust from us, and for that, at least NOW, we are given dishonest actions AGAINST us. How can you expect trust like this?

I was wrong, my account is over month old and from 23 position only 5 oldest was remove and i got 15$ revenue so not that bad as i think:) so i stay for while in

Completely understandable. It's a reasonable decision depending on what happened and it's going on. You will probably not be the only one.
We are being told that things are "improving", yet actions like this and many other show us otherwise. The earning ability for the users of JBP is being taken away more and more. That's not improving. Only the outlook of the site are improving and the choices we have there that are unrelated to the earning aspect of the site will improve.

I wanted to buy more triplers after the 50% restart that was mentioned by them and continue to do so throughout next month. Like this I most certainly won't.
The re-action they will get back from their members will be exactly the one they deserve for what they are doing. Nothing less. People don't want to buy triplers in a manner that is offensive to them.

My first restart
had 100 triplers now 69

Where do I find theses expired/restart tripler in my JSS matrixes?
Does it take time?

Thanks

Yeah,JSS has looked pretty much a barren,dead waste land in the last few weeks.Nothing happening.I hope they get things moving again for the programs good and to make lives easier for promoters.How can You explain to recruits that 1/2 of JBP does not work as advertised?

I am also relatively new to the program so I would love to have someone explain what happens now that my account has been through restart.

I had 5 of my 29 positions converted and got $11 in my account. Many of my positions were not in profit so I guess I was lucky.

Do these 5 positions become 5 spots in a matrix? In 5 matrices? Do 4 convert into 1 Matrix position? None of the above?

Since I have never been through a restart I have nothing to compare this one too but I don't think I will come out badly here. And I can already replace 2 of the spots I lost with $ from my account.

Comments or suggestions anyone?

way way too long of a time ( as yet to be determined)

Hello everyone.
Does anyone know if there is a problem with adding funds through Payza?
I had a referral that went to the bank (here in Portugal) to make the deposit and for my admiration the employer said that this account is closed. And when I log in to Payza there is no longer the ability to add funds...

Advise me anyone please...

depends.take a look if you were PAID by the converted positions. If ou were actually paid you might not get anything in exchange or you might get ONE matrix position but It will be one or two month before you see that matrix.<meanwhile start buying triplers right away since right after restart is the BEST time to buy tripler since the next restart is far off

I can't complain. I know what restart means and what effects may have. More than 50% of my positions got involved in the restart, but I still have more positions than when the restart announced. My account is not a big, but with good strategy everything is much easier.

Most complain those who don't understand the program well enough, and don't have well developed strategy of earnings.

I go on.

You can now see how many Matrices you will receive.

Percentage of JSS-Tripler Positions Converted to JSS Positions (ACP): 75%
No. of Your JSS-Tripler Positions Converted: 75
No. of JSS Positions Given: 17

4.41 Triplers per Matrix

Percentage of JSS-Tripler Positions Converted to JSS Positions (ACP): 75%
No. of Your JSS-Tripler Positions Converted: 148
No. of JSS Positions Given: 34

4.35 Triplers per Matrix

Percentage of JSS-Tripler Positions Converted to JSS Positions (ACP): 71%
No. of Your JSS-Tripler Positions Converted: 4
No. of JSS Positions Given: 0

No Matrices

With the latest Restart, HOW MANY CONVERTED JSS-TRIPLERS per JSS MATRIX POSITION?
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It is a per-account basis.

TO COMPUTE:
1. Go to your JSS-Tripler backoffice, click "Latest Restart"
Let,

a = # of triplers BEFORE Restart
b = # of triplers AFTER Restart

x = # of JSS positions BEFORE Restart
y = # of JSS positions AFTER Restart

T = # of converted triplers per JSS Matrix position
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T = (a - b) / (y - x)
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On my case, it's 6.375 triplers per JSS Matrix position

I can see that many of you dear friends are pissed off with this restart. I am sorry for you, but can't help.
Anyway, this is my first restart, and it didn't go bad for me at all. As a very small account restart took away 2 pos. from me (20%), and in return I got 19,40 $. (no matrix, understandably).

I don't get it, JBP took from me 2 pos that have already earned. First one was the oldest (40 days) and has earned 7,25 $, the second (19 days old) has earned 3,35 $. At the same time as they took them , I got whole amount that those positions should earn in 41 day first one and 62 days the second one.

Looks to me I was extremely lucky this time, or perhaps this is what restart is all about (like Robbin of Locksley, better known as Robbin Hood). taking from big and rich accounts to help smaller accounts to grow.

I don't know, but I really feel bad about you who had 50-75% converts, and I do understand your anger, but at the same time, maybe your accounts already earned a bunch of money, and that could be the main reason.

I wish you less anger, more patience and we will all see in near future what is going to happen. No need to rush.
Keep in mind that the worse has already happened, and checking out off this program can be very long and exhausting process, plus it is expensive one also.

I know that a lot of us are going to stay, and i am sure that among those who are announcing their checking out will be a lot who are going to stay, they just need a time to calm down.

Best wishes to all of us!

You have 3 accounts?

Nah, I'm just managing my refs accounts


Another one:

Percentage of JSS-Tripler Positions Converted to JSS Positions (ACP): 75%
No. of Your JSS-Tripler Positions Converted: 27
No. of JSS Positions Given: 6

4.50 Triplers per Matrix

My friend you may be right that JBP is paying (I don't have any doubts) but for me to do WD between 1800 to 2200 hours (New York Time) is absolutely insane. I'm cozily sleeping in my couch at that time unless the bugs start biting or someone offers to buy me a all night!!!


With the cash in JBP account, i can safely buy a 'house' (exaggerated but it pays to quote such figures), oops i meant cardboard house.

I sincerely hope the guys do something about the WD and cater to peeps from all over the globe and not only New York & US citizens.

BTW I just purchased a handful of positions today.

I would wait a day so the restart is completely finished before trying to upgrade.also try a different browser,clear your cookies and cache.Hope this helps

Is this allowed?? I don't think we are allowed to "manage our referrals accounts", whatever that means. It would imply that we can have many accounts under us managed by us, and than we are somehow allowed to say "no, it's not me, it's other people". Of course that's YOU, it's not other people. I think it's specified in their rules we are not allowed to self-refer ourselves, or "manage our referrals accounts".

yes... affected me also allot, had 250 pos, 188 counted for restart. From 188 they converted 139!!!!!!!

I am left with 111 positions!!! BTW my account is 3 month old and I didn't withdrawn my initial investment.

That's exactly what they do



You won't be so nice and understanding when it is YOUR account the one that gets hit BIG TIME
It will be your turn to get wiped out soon enough

Only if you are referral to yourself.

Hello everyone.
Does anyone know if there is a problem with adding funds through Payza?
I had a referral that went to the bank (here in Portugal) to make the deposit and for my admiration the employer said that this account is closed. And when I log in to Payza there is no longer the ability to add funds...

Advise me anyone please...

You were lucky. As soon as you start growing your account you'll understand what it means to be flushed back to your start without making any cashouts in between. We'll see how this program will make you more and more patient as we move on. I was patient just like you were, just a few months back, the rules have changed intensively since than.

72% of triplers converted. I cashed out like 3% of the much I deposited - I really don't feel that I 'earned a bunch of money'. I wish they included cashouts in their calculations, but that's just something we are only being told, not something that is actually being applied. It was completely disregarded, cashout or not, people somehow seem to fall in the same category which is very confusing. I'm also not sure about the guy who lost 7 out of 11 triplers, if he became very rich in the meanwhile, perhaps he did, who knows.

Oh I will be VERY patient about this program and "just see how it goes", as some people mention, as soon as I pull the rest of my earnings out, that is. Than I will be extremely "patient" about what happens with it. LOTS of patience at that moment, unbelievable inhuman amounts of it.
How ironical it is though, that they thought that converting more than 70% of people's triplers instead of the 50% mentioned would be a "good idea" in order to lower cashouts, yet people - because of this - will be unmotivated to reinvest their money and will cashout their earnings instead, perhaps even raising the cashout requests.

Lot's of people are so upset that they filled up the whole entire room for the chat conference lol.

I can understand that, and I agree with you. Also am afraid that a lot of big accounts will try to cash out, and then it might be a goodby to this program.
Who knows what will happen. I think nobody, so that is why I suggest patience, rather than being angry, and multiplying anger with useless tries to cash out.
I just think that won't help at all. That was all I wanted to say, sorry if you misunderstood me.

We are all here on the same side of this business, don't forget that when reading posts.

Best wishes!

Seems like this restart will definitely be the talk for the day and upcoming days lol. This is my third restart. I went from making $20 a day to $7. I'm at the point where I'm just going to cash out myself. I can understand as to why those who have larger accounts will do the same. Oh well...

No, you DON'T have to upgrade to receive the JSS Matrices from converted triplers.

LMAO!

sorry whats the meaning of LMAO?

I know this is a silly question, I must have missed out the information about this because I didn´t had time to follow the updates lately. I wonder what they mean with "the cut-off date"?

Don't worry drcapoon, I have no quarrel with you. It's what JBP is doing that is concerning me at this point. I know it appears that the users who will be cashing out are the ones who will be damaging the stability of the program, but it's not really them. What they are doing is just reacting logically to what happened to them. Reacting to actions that weren't made by them. It's those who are applying this actions that are the ones damaging the program.
Long held rules are being change over night again, and more trust has been lost once again by what has been done, it's just that this time it's on a higher level.
I wish that JBP lives forever, it's just that with the rules they are creating currently most people will leave and many people will not be attracted to come in and invest, who otherwise would (with the old rules or how things used to be just a few months back). It doesn't mean at all that people "have to stay" just because it can live forever, it can still be a not trustworthy program and unattractive for investment. It all MAINLY depends on the ones who are leading this, not really up to the users.

Am not. They said in the conference room that it's perfectly fine to manage accounts of you referrals.


Laughing My A$$ Off



"cut-off date" as in date after which Tripler positions are safe from Restart

Laughing my A$s off

EGOPAT payouts available people GOGOGO

Thank you! When they did announce it? I missed it out!

Nobody announced :i just happened to try an EGO PAY and it went through.already gone,though

He asked about the cut off date, not WD on EP.

The "position cut-off date" is 7/16/12.