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yup. they need to credit JSS positions to our accounts quickly....
QUOTE (wbright22 @ Jan 7 2012, 01:07 PM)  The conference has several moderators on telling everyone the restart is a great thing and we are all better off by receiving extra JSS positions. LOL, I still have numerous positions waiting to cycle from the last restart. If the matrices (that are highly likely not to cycle) will not be wound up (taken out) at some point in time, then the earnings from them, whether you will buy positions and premiums for them or not, will get less and less, unless the population to this program will grow exponentially with the growth of matrices.
This restart stuff scares me. It wasn't suppose to be for another 6 months plus.
I haven't made any withdrawals yet. I don't see any thing different in my account as of yet. I'm wondering if I will?  I don't have much to take away yet.
restart again??
Lost over 100 jss tripler position... How can I rebuild again... QUOTE (mmo1991 @ Jan 7 2012, 07:23 AM) restart again?? Lost over 100 jss tripler position... How can I rebuild again... Purchase tripler positions heavily for 2 months then wait for the next restart.
aw, another restart.
I have lost about 270 Tripler positions and they just disappeared, they do not show up in my account as "restart converted"
I hope they will be fed into JSS . Just started to withdraw after compounding. I shall not reinvest anything anymore, I think.
this is stupid...may give up
DEFINATLY was only like 4 months since last restartt NOT 6-18 me and my team were doing so good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! QUOTE (marketingmaster @ Jan 7 2012, 07:29 AM) this is stupid...may give up DEFINATLY was only like 4 months since last restartt NOT 6-18 me and my team were doing so good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MM jump in the web conference and listen to the moderators do their cheerleading about how great the restart is for everyone. It's a good laugh. They have newer members upset that they weren't included in the restart. QUOTE (wbright22 @ Jan 7 2012, 05:33 AM) MM jump in the web conference and listen to the moderators do their cheerleading about how great the restart is for everyone. It's a good laugh. yeah for the ones who nwat to buy more premiums and work thier butt off again to fll matrix's..my team was doing so good..cudos to them if they want to continue doing soo,as i will try but...its only been 4 months not 6..or 18...like...this is beginning to be my number ONE program everytime i sdtart to good somewhere it ....................
I emailed Fred and asked the he update the FAQ that states that the restart could be every 6-8 months as that is no longer true.
My emailed bounced back stating his email box is full. I am sure he is getting slammed with emails this morning.
Before restart i had 20 positions and now i have 0.
Have this happened to anyone else? QUOTE (srle87 @ Jan 7 2012, 05:43 AM) Before restart i had 20 positions and now i have 0. Have this happened to anyone else? not sure what i lost the ones tht say restart coverted are the ones trhat wil be working when restart happens correct? QUOTE (srle87 @ Jan 7 2012, 07:13 PM) Before restart i had 20 positions and now i have 0. Have this happened to anyone else? Only 75% got converted I suppose. You should have 5 of your oldest positions. If they were to expire today, then you lost them all. QUOTE (hemsagar @ Jan 7 2012, 05:50 AM) Only 75% got converted I suppose. You should have 5 of your oldest positions. If they were to expire today, then you lost them all. the 1s u have earnings left on r still good QUOTE (hemsagar @ Jan 7 2012, 01:50 PM) Only 75% got converted I suppose. You should have 5 of your oldest positions. If they were to expire today, then you lost them all. When i first loged in there was left 5 position,only 1 should expire tomorrow.After 2 hours i loged in again and there was 0 positions. I don't know what happened!
I guess they did 2 restarts lol first time from 140 positions only 30 left and now nothing left all expired
2012-01-07 13:33:46 None Restart Cash for Converted Positions $ 21.60 2012-01-07 12:03:14 None Restart Cash for Converted Positions $ 21.60 QUOTE (t0xicbull3t @ Jan 7 2012, 08:03 AM) I guess they did 2 restarts lol first time from 140 positions only 30 left and now nothing left all expired 2012-01-07 13:33:46 None Restart Cash for Converted Positions $ 21.60 2012-01-07 12:03:14 None Restart Cash for Converted Positions $ 21.60 I just got hit with a second restart. I have no triplers left at all. WTF is going on? QUOTE (wbright22 @ Jan 7 2012, 02:08 PM) I just got hit with a second restart. I have no triplers left at all. WTF is going on? in my account is the same - no one position anymore....however, i am sure that this is just an error of the computer....at the contrary jss would not exist anymore.....
When restart is complete??
QUOTE (opport @ Jan 7 2012, 08:12 AM) in my account is the same - no one position anymore....however, i am sure that this is just an error of the computer....at the contrary jss would not exist anymore..... I asked the moderators about this 4 times and not one of them answered me. QUOTE (opport @ Jan 7 2012, 06:12 AM) in my account is the same - no one position anymore....however, i am sure that this is just an error of the computer....at the contrary jss would not exist anymore..... all positions that have ANYTHING left to earn on them are still good...
man another restart?
i just keep building and now restart again really suck
Oh what crooks they are! Got $23,80 back from 86 triplers, 5 just purchased yesterday
and 20 purchased 9 days ago. This is insane!! I never thought a 2nd restart would happen so soon, fortunately I started withdrawals 3 weeks ago so that I got a part back but nevertheless this is a terrible loss and I swear, this was the last chance I gave them. I was also severely hit by the last restart and moved the majority of my remaining funds out but then I re-invested again with money that was actually intented to be invested with T2 but I refrained of doing this after I was not happy about this program(and I was right) but I should not have invested it with JBP. It is simply not okay that triplers purchased so recently are converted. Anyway, JBP is history for me, this time 100%!! Tobwithu
Wow! I finally got my first paying referrals this week and now this happens. How will this affect a new JSS member who purchased 4 positions this week?
QUOTE (wbright22 @ Jan 7 2012, 02:16 PM) I asked the moderators about this 4 times and not one of them answered me. Perhaps a program malfunction. If such is the case,then I'll be expecting a long long wait like with the August restart, that restarted a month later, actually. That chatroom is no fun at all. I only listened and read for about 10 mins, and then I left. QUOTE (Edstart @ Jan 7 2012, 08:24 AM) Perhaps a program malfunction. If such is the case,then I'll be expecting a long long wait like with the August restart, that restarted a month later, actually. That chatroom is no fun at all. I only listened and read for about 10 mins, and then I left. The Moderator Snoop just said Carl will explain why some members had 100% of their triplers expired so I guess this was on purpose.
The email says that only accounts opened before Dec 15 were affected by the restart.
QUOTE (lloydanthony111 @ Jan 7 2012, 11:21 PM) Wow! I finally got my first paying referrals this week and now this happens. How will this affect a new JSS member who purchased 4 positions this week? QUOTE (wbright22 @ Jan 7 2012, 02:25 PM) The Moderator Snoop just said Carl will explain why some members had 100% of their triplers expired so I guess this was on purpose. hm...this means that it wasn`t an error? ....how much of us have lost all our positions? ... do you know this? QUOTE (yallit @ Jan 7 2012, 02:30 PM) The email says that only accounts opened before Dec 15 were affected by the restart. fortunately that`s right.....but it is also true that a lot of people have opened their account before this date and invested after some weeks or days....and also those people have now lost a lot of their invested money  ....
QUOTE (wbright22 @ Jan 7 2012, 09:25 AM) The Moderator Snoop just said Carl will explain why some members had 100% of their triplers expired so I guess this was on purpose. WOW!!!!!!!!!! I'll bet it's no fun being a moderator in that conference room right now. I have some things to do today, so can't be in the conference room. Someone please keep this thread updated with what is going on, so I can check it later. So, far I still have my remaining 26 triplers, after they took 71 of them away. I hope I can keep those 26 to rebuild from. It does stink for the smaller investor who it took a while to build up their account. I know of someone who just hit the $500 a day mark. I'm sure they lost over 3,500 of their positions and are now down to making maybe $100. That has to really hurt also. But hopefully they will start things up again soon and not 30 days later like the Aug restart. I want to know when the 2% will start up again. They claimed the next restart would only take about 3 days, but I have a feeling it will be longer. It took 30 days for 2% to start again and an additional 30 days for the matrix program to start and start paying people again. Once the matrix program starts, we will all be happy again as we'll earn a lot of money. Question is: When will this happen? Will we have to wait 2 months again?!!!!!!!!!!! Only TIME will tell. In the meantime, I'll keep with my other programs and hope for the BEST with JBP. Again, the thing is to probably keep cash in reserve at all times, so when restarts happen it won't take so long to BOUNCE back from them.
yeah from what i thought they were doing better than ever thousands joining a day and such..ell back to working on filling these matrix's i guess..thje spots that still have $ left to earn on are still active!!
Ok Carl just said the restart did have a glitch and has to be fixed. Do not believe what you see in your back office right now.
QUOTE (wbright22 @ Jan 7 2012, 09:37 AM) Ok Carl just said the restart did have a glitch and has to be fixed. Do not believe what you see in your back office right now. Thanks, this is good to know. ETA - Hopefully, it's not supposed to be 75% of our triplers. Maybe more like 50%, at least I hope it's a lot less than 75%. Keep us updated if you can wbright22. Thanks.
75% is not good...
QUOTE (wbright22 @ Jan 7 2012, 02:37 PM) Ok Carl just said the restart did have a glitch and has to be fixed. Do not believe what you see in your back office right now.  that`s a really good news, thanks ....in fact when i have seen that all my positions gone, the first thing i thought was that it was surely an error here....thank god i thought good ....also if will remain only few positions, it will be better than nothing, sure
My, quite a change in the tone and content of the posts from page 668 on.
I tried to enlighten you all about this program, but I got attacked and insulted. I'll repeat: This is a ponzi; all ponzis end, sooner or later. And they don't end well. And yet you are surprised about this restart. I told you that their rapidly increasing membership was a liability, not an asset, because this just leads to rapidly increasing payout obligations which they will eventually not be able to meet. I tried to tell you all this, but most of you want to stay in dreamland, and your response is to attack the messenger. I expect that because I've seen all this happen over and over again. Keep playing if you wish, but realize what kind of game you're in. Indefinitely sustainable -- uh huh. 
QUOTE (yallit @ Jan 7 2012, 06:30 AM) The email says that only accounts opened before Dec 15 were affected by the restart. His account was opened 12/11/11. Funded it 4 days ago. Did he get screwed? I see he didn't get any earnings today, the 4th day. He has earnings for the previous 3 days.
I don't think that they will deduct only 50% of the triplers for the restart.Last time it was 65%.So this time around too it will be atleast >65%
QUOTE (opport @ Jan 7 2012, 08:42 AM) that`s a really good news, thanks ....in fact when i have seen that all my positions gone, the first thing i thought was that it was surely an error here....thank god i thought good ....also if will remain only few positions, it will be better than nothing, sure I had to leave the conference. Got tired of listening to Carl and the moderators tell everyon how much more money they will make due to the restart. Explaining that now they will earn $60 for each JSS Matrix. That is misleading because if you don't buy placements and upgrades those matrices never cycle. Even with buying upgrades and placements it takes quite a long time for them to cycle. Restart is bad in the short term but can be great in the long term if you have the patience to wait for the JSS cycles. QUOTE (ISPY @ Jan 7 2012, 02:43 PM) My, quite a change in the tone and content of the posts from page 668 on. I tried to enlighten you all about this program, but I got attacked and insulted. I'll repeat: This is a ponzi; all ponzis end, sooner or later. And they don't end well. And yet you are surprised about this restart. I told you that their rapidly increasing membership was a liability, not an asset, because this just leads to rapidly increasing payout obligations which they will eventually not be able to meet. I tried to tell you all this, but most of you want to stay in dreamland, and your response is to attack the messenger. I expect that because I've seen all this happen over and over again. Keep playing if you wish, but realize what kind of game you're in. Indefinitely sustainable -- uh huh. ISPY....in my city it was a factory which worked about 50-60 years....for about 4-5 years thare are here only walls and nothing else.....you surely know what i want to say with this, right?
QUOTE (marketingmaster @ Jan 7 2012, 09:34 AM) yeah from what i thought they were doing better than ever thousands joining a day and such..ell back to working on filling these matrix's i guess..thje spots that still have $ left to earn on are still active!! I don't normally complain on the forums, but today I am PISSED! Yes Ryan our team was doing great! I had signed up many referrals over the last 2 weeks; my current referrals were growing their accounts very well; and I even had one referral's referral purchase over 130 new positions during the last 3 days..................and now this. 
QUOTE (wbright22 @ Jan 7 2012, 02:48 PM) I had to leave the conference. Got tired of listening to Carl and the moderators tell everyon how much more money they will make due to the restart. Explaining that now they will earn $60 for each JSS Matrix. That is misleading because if you don't buy placements and upgrades those matrices never cycle. Even with buying upgrades and placements it takes quite a long time for them to cycle. Restart is bad in the short term but can be great in the long term if you have the patience to wait for the JSS cycles. honestly, i neither think at jss matrix....in fact i know that in theory we will all have this money in the future....but in practice....hm...surely never....for this reason i count only on jss tripler....you too, right? QUOTE (ISPY @ Jan 7 2012, 02:43 PM) [...] Keep playing if you wish, but realize what kind of game you're in. Indefinitely sustainable -- uh huh. Taken your neverending self-sufficiency apart I'd like to remark this program could yet be taken off the money cycling track if they follow through on the owner's intention of getting income from the marketing and promoting biz. QUOTE (opport @ Jan 7 2012, 06:49 AM) ISPY....in my city it was a factory which worked about 50-60 years....for about 4-5 years thare are here only walls and nothing else.....you surely know what i want to say with this, right? Comparing a real business with a ponzi again, right? Can't you folks come up with an original tune? Show me a ponzi which lasted 50-60 years. And don't say social security. That's a legal, government-run program.
This time a cut of 71% in triplers. I got 25 left from 86.
And please, it is a fairy tale that you earn so much with the matrices. After the restart I have only got 4 matured which does not even compensate my loss and btw, 50% of the payout was reinvested in placements and triplers. So this matrix rarara is BS! Only to keep you at bay and enticing you to buy triplers to move your matrices. Lol, tell that to the marines...  Tobwithu QUOTE (Edstart @ Jan 7 2012, 06:52 AM) Taken your neverending self-sufficiency apart I'd like to remark this program could yet be taken off the money cycling track if they follow through on the owner's intention of getting income from the marketing and promoting biz. Uh huh, sure.
My JSS-Triplers are down to zero as well. I did notice however that I got 2 "restart cash for converted positions" and both are the same amount of money. So it does seem like a glitch.
2012-01-07 13:33:46 None Restart Cash for Converted Positions $ 7.80 2012-01-07 12:03:14 None Restart Cash for Converted Positions $ 7.80 QUOTE (wbright22 @ Jan 7 2012, 11:37 PM) Ok Carl just said the restart did have a glitch and has to be fixed. Do not believe what you see in your back office right now. QUOTE (opport @ Jan 7 2012, 08:51 AM) honestly, i neither think at jss matrix....in fact i know that in theory we will all have this money in the future....but in practice....hm...surely never....for this reason i count only on jss tripler....you too, right? Absolutely Triplers are my main focus. I don't have thousands to buy triplers so I don't have enough expiring and flowing to JSS to keep cycling matrices. I still have 26 JSS positions from the last restart waiting to cycle.
I found this one interesting and related to the other program.
QUOTE Note: Under certain "abnormal circumstances," a complete Restart may have to be done. An example would be if a payment processor were to freeze our account and steal our funds. A complete Restart would convert ALL JSS-Tripler positions into JSS positions. JSS-Tripler can then be restarted with a different payment processor. Members retain all their JSS positions and can continue earning from them. (Most members will also most likely be able to recover funds from the "bad" payment processor!)
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