1. MMD and DM closed. 1,000s of good people lost money.

2. VIP shut down way before anyone expected.

3. ACD postponed 1 month and decides not to accept Intgold.


What else am I missing? There must have been other bad news today.

VIP was doomed the second they decided to pay early...

nah you covered it... bad luck runs in 3.. we're done and ready to have some good luck now..

Day of Infamy.

how much you loss in vips?

i lost my about 500. Wa360 and wallstreet hopefully going to recover my lost.

but pretty much all of it was profit from other program. but it still money

No risk no gain

it wouldn't be smooth sailing all the while...there are times we will encounter some rough weather...but hopefully people won't let this totally disappoint them...instead, make it as a motivating factor to be more stronger and do better the next time...

VIP would still be here if people didn't panic...

I also very sad today.
Even worst my 1st Bot account got hacked.

Luckily admin didn't send out payment yet.
I already emailed admin.

4. moneytwister launching new line today 10$-400% and still havent paid to their members for previous line

hey this isnt the worst of it , at least there still activity going on

In my eyes, only big blow was VIP doubler. I'm pretty dissapointed about that.

Hopefully something good comes out of all of this. Lets encourage those from ecc to invest in WSD or wa360.

Their email made people panic.

I only received their email stating their changes just over 12 hours before they decided to close...


I had a feeling it was coming, they were emailing members and running contests when things were well, and instead of emailing us either to tell us how things were going, keeping members informed and motivated or with a new competition...maybe a referral contest/ or like their other contests, they just went quiet.

I agree that doublers can't last forever, and some have shorter life spans than others, but as it has been said in this forum, their communication over the last week or so, has been far from impressive.

I never liked their communication problem. THought it would last a little longer though, but of the 3 I did not have much faith in this one due to how they were running it. They could have sent a mail saying they were going to 4 or 5 days instead but I guess poor communication kind of killed it. People panicked way too early though.

I Took a pretty big hit on this one, thank god I am in a few programs. I have a feeling they were not really familiar with doubler programs and what needs to happen. They made several mistakes. They didn't really keep us updated, They shouldn't have been paying out early that entire time, and finally they should have switched to 5 or 6 days as their money slowed down, not turned the program into a regular doubler.

It kinda seems to me like they are taking the easy way out and just closing up shop without putting any effort into keeping it going. Regardless, it doesn't really matter - it is dead now.

The VIP admins simply didn't know what they were doing right from the very start.

I hate to use strong terms like I'm about to, but here goes: the VIP admins are stupid morons who have no clue about business, math, doublers or reality. OR, they knew VIP would die even quicker than some of the more ludicrous HYIP programs and took their profits and stiffed people the first sign that the gravy train was slowing down.

I don't buy the panic argument. The program totally dying in less than 24hrs after an email saying that VIP was going to be a regular doubler tells me that they obviously had severe cash-flow problems before that Wednesday update. Otherwise, they could have said that cycle times might increase some but eveything is OK. Matter of fact, they DID say that in the update. They alluded to "well-respected programs" with cycle times over 90 days(YMMS, Empowerism is now at 110) like they weren't going anywhere even if they couldn't keep paying people every 4 (actually 3) days.

The admin of VIP needs a middle school math class and a calculator for Christmas. Also, a high school level on Business or Economics would be a great help. After the 'tard gets through that, maybe a course in PR would be highly advised.

WHat's the difference between sleazebags from all over rushing in throwing up a doubler script every five minutes and saying "I own a doubler, please join" and VIP? I guess because VIP seemed to be paying it's not an outright intended scam, but it was pretty damn close, that's how inept the admin was.

Brad

Will people be this harsh towards WA360 and the other good ones when they stop running as well? All doublers will come to an end no matter what.

I talked to the VIP admin. Brad's assessment isn't that far off from mine at this point. They could have simply changed to 4 days or even 5 and tell that to the members instead of causing the panic which forced them to close down. They only ran the Thanksgiving special to bring more in...

They caused the panic themselves. It was their fault that people pulled out. A lot of people had a strong belief in that system and they failed to keep that faith.

It was that email they sent. You don't create panic if you plan to be there for a while. Remember ECC? What happened with their updates? People panicked and it never recovered.

Yep, that's why we have to be invested in more than one at the same time. Just enjoy them while you can, get what you can out of them, and treat ones like WSD and wa360 as good as they are treating us.

Not mine because WA has lasted longer than 17 days and had a better plan originally than VIP. Also, 7 day cycles are easierf to accomplish than 3, obviously.

WHat upset people is getting an email on Wendesday that seemed to not be a big deal and then less than a day later, bye-bye and they sure didn't do the payments they said they were going to do.

Brad

Luckly I'm not invest in either one of them.

Only have a small $25 in DM and never cycle before it closed down.