Sorry to see some Scamer are still very active in the HYIP (High Yield Investment Programs) Forum.
They can post what they want ,Just Scam you
some hyip site never pay any money to the invester from the first day, but the scamer they registered mutil account or buy someone's account can post
"paid me" "very good site "....
that make new depositor come in ..

I am wonder why there are no man stop it .

No matter what there will always be scammers you just got be wise enough to get in before they decide to close or smart enough not to invest in a site that has no intentions of paying..

MMG is just a public forum and there is no more scammers here than anywhere else. It is impossible to stop scammers who are determined to run scams. Even though MMG has the best mod team out of any other forum (in my opinion), it is still each member's responsibility to make their own decisions. If you look at all the scams that have happened over the years, you will see that 95% of them are so obvious, and yet people who don't know any better (or greedy people) still join them. If people can't stop investing in programs that pay 125% per day, then trying to stop scammers is pretty hopeless.

this will always be the way it is, u just have to figure it out yourself
it is not such that scammers especially come to mmg

Yeah ever since people started to call MMG scammer paradise, I started to help out the moderators by keeping topics organized and clean

You rock

You really have, wish more members would take the initiative and help us out to keep this forum clean and free of these scammers. It helps everyone in the end. You don't want MMG to turn into one of those other forums

Those are scams?

NUK

is 12dp ethical?

using the advertisers' money to pay the viewers.

Thats the way all autosurfs work

I agree 100% with you on that Jason.

Yes there are alot of scammers and scam programs here but you just have to use your discerment and figure out if they are potential scams before you jump into any program. Learn the signs

One suggestion is to allow member with a considerable amount of post before letting him/her view the HYIP/GPT sections and to start a topic...

If you think about it.....almost any new member with 0 post can start a topic about a particular program - HYIP, autosurf etc

And its not surprising that 0 posters could actually be scammers as well, and they can find their way so easily to infiltrate MMG and post their site to scam others


Of coz, not to mention, majority of people are naive and they don't even look at the post count of the member.....But for the benefit of everyone, isn't it a better solution to allow like say a member with 50 posts to start a topic about a new HYIP or autosurf etc instead?

If the scammer wants to scam, he would have to get to the desired post count of like 50 posts.....and if he spam to 50 just to post his program, he will be alerted by other members and be banned.....Although its not a 100% deterrent, it sure will deter most scammers

Just my humble opinion

Treat your HYIP as a high risk money game and never put in anythng u cannot afford to lose

It is quite difficult to prevent scammers to post their program in a public forum like MMG. All members have to be alert and do enough due diligent by themselve before joining programs.

There are many worse forums out there.

there is no way to stop that kind of actions...

HYIP Scammers are giving MMG A Very Bad Name

I know alot who quit coming here because of scammers.

It's one thing to have a honest game end and another to

Flat OUT be A SCAM

MMG really should consult with Pros on this.

This only hurts MMG

And some boards do take a more proactive approach vs just letting scammers run free

I don't get your point here. I can see that MMG is having a very good visitor counter daily.

Is it really a scammer paradise? yipee~~~~ what an informative forum, we get the latest update of all the best and worst programs You wanna know what the best is? You gotta learn the worst first. It's not a bad thing

WTF are you talking about? MMG has gone from 1K in 1/2005 to 20K+ in 1/2006. Let me help: that means membership is sky-rocketing so this *a lot you know* isn't many people.

As far as consulting with the Pro's......is this a joke? Who are the *pro's* in this business? You name any *pro* out there and I can guarantee you I can find flat-out scams they once said were great opportunities. The fact is that NOBODY knows of all the programs starting which are scams and which will pay for months. I've seen the worst-looking websites with the dumbest admins(IT4US) go like gangbusters for months. I've seen sites that took the goldcoders' script and didn't modify a word on it and pay 2-3% a day for 6 months.
No one knows.

People need to be adults and THINK and even control themselves. If it says *500% return in 1 Day,* I'm betting that it's highly unlikely it will last a day. Scams don't appear anywhere unless people PAY INTO THEM! There is a wealth of knowledge in all of these posts on MMG. If people are too lazy to read something written before 10 minutes ago and consequently make poor investment choices, too damn bad! Maybe next time they will read, learn and observe. There isn't Mommy here to protect you from your own willfull ignorance.



NUK

HYIP scammers are giving SCAMMERS a bad name.

Anyone who blames a forum for their bad decision making needs to stop making decisions.

I'm not saying this as an admin but as a member of this forum like everyone else.

Consult pros? There are no pros.

Other forums let scams happen everyday and notice I said LET. We don't LET them happen, if one comes through the cracks then it does...this happens EVERYWHERE. But when we find one we shut it down. No questions asked.

You have more protection here than anywhere else but I'm not going to go into that.

We don't allow it to be a free for all here and others do. So where are their pros?

People should NOT be putting money in all the scams and every other program that shows up. There are obvious scams and people throw money in it and it's the same people over and over but when good ones come along they stick to scams.

This is getting much longer than I was expecting so I'm leaving now before I get myself in trouble.

There will always be scammers. Here, talkgold, and every other forum. That's just a fact that most people know by now. There isn't more scammers here than any other forum, and we actively investigate all scammers and ban them as needed. We never let a known scammer keep an account here at MMG and do everything necessary to protect MMG members.

No one knows a program will be a scam or not or how long it going in business. So, what the point here??

Pros?? I think everyone here is pros, they know what they doing.

MMG just can't ask everyone verify their identity to post their program and also there are so many way to cheat by fake identity, so you got what i mean here.

People just think logicly about a program base on their exp or take some advise from other members. Dont bet your luck here!! If you do want bet, go to the Casino even there have some tips to keep losing in bet. Be smart even the smartest one lose sometime.


thiec

can't blame mmg for getting scammed.

Ya can't blame mmg. Those scammers are always looking for places to scam people. If not mmg sure is some other forum.

Well, I don't think it will matter much much longer.

Between the SP/Surf thing, all the supposed hack, and all the current scam runners, I see more and more people on mmg and other boards I post on saying they are done with HYIPs and mmg.

It's gettin real hard to get referals and I expect after all the runners this week it will get harder and harder.

I think ALL these scammers shot themselves in the foot. They aren't smart enough to understand you can't do too high percent of scams. They chased their cash cow away by biting it too many times. You have to have more good than bad or the good will leave. And they are leaving in droves. Scammers= MORONS

And yes, I understand the game so don't give me that scammers BS line I see posted so much.
Like I've said over and over, there's a BIG diff between a game that's run it's course and a flat out rip scam.
I know ALOT of people who not only don't mind the end of a real game but they LOVE the game. But they DON"T Like Being RIPPED OFF over and over so they ARE GONE! Scammers= MORONS

What has happened during the last week is nothing new. I've seen it similar events several times. One huge step people need to make is to stop investing in crap and start choosing more wisely. Using stormpay to invest in ANYTHING was an extremely bad idea to begin with. That's a lesson most people learned quickly after stormpay originally became popular a long time ago. Sure there will always be people that say "i am done with hyips/mmg/talkgold, whatever" but that's their choice and I hope they make better decisions in the future.

MMG is a scammer paradise

but i don't blame on MMG if someone scam me here.
So far, i like this forum so much and things still going well for me.

And i agree with our President :

President? Didn't know I was a President
Kind of like that...

I'm tired if seeing people blame everything and everyone else for being scammed when they should be blaming themselves.

Do your research and use common sense. Stop joining everything you see and stop using money you can't afford to lose. And when you do lose the money - and everyone does at some point in time - take it as a learning expierence.

Stop supporting programs who claim "0% risk!" or "We will last longer than others" or anything equally as ridiculous. I mean, come on, does this really need to be pointed out?

It has also become very apparent that the general population on this forum doesn't know the meaning or even the difference of a SCAM and a CLOSED program.

Losing money is frustrating, I know it is, but if it keeps happening over and over again.. then YOU are doing something wrong. Stop blaming other people.

If you don't know or understand what you are getting into, then this business isn't for you.

Yeah, join the ones that you know are going to run, at least you make some money before they do

Oh, geez.... Now you have gone and done it, nizaris.

You had to know that that was going to go straight to his head...

Its a game, some will win and some will lose.I only detest admins that don't live up to their promises or those that spread lies about their program

ben ther TRYED that

it won't be a problem going against scammer if you take your time to invest and stick to the golden rules of investing..

The thing is if you try to point things out to folks you
ultimately get labelled a troll and wacked with a warning.

I try warning many people about bogus admins, warning
signs of impending closures but it seems most folks love
shooting the messenger and detest anyone that would dare
mess with their games.

So I feel that wack, stack pack, slash, rip and burn will
continue expandig ever more.

What is could be really handy is some serious hackers
that could set apon these dweeb admins e-gold accounts
and clean them out. Then do the robin hood thing.

After a while dud admins would know that they will be
done over if they dont stop their scamming.

I would be willing to learn the craft.

In my opinion MMG is a great forum and you just need brains not to fall for these scams. If you want to make 1 million $ in 1 day then your just gona fall into a trap...

Also sometimes there are honest paying admins out there that just dont get enough attention or have enough money to advertise their program and they get shut down due to lack of activity and investments...

Procode

I agree with this opinion. Scamers are around us everythere, it's life.

Everything would be better if people could use "common sense" it's not a hard thing to do, leave your greed at home, walk carefully!

And MMG Mod Team is the best of all the mods I had ever seen and all the forums I had ever been,

Keep the good job!

I haven't seen a never ending hyip. And if you use common sense and not get greedy, and get out off a hyip in the right time you should avoid the scammers. Also of course if you see 120- 200% after 1 day you should not consider them scammers...... lol the last one was a joke

Good advice. The idea is to get out and run with the cash before the admin does.

Hi everyone

I firstly want o say that i think that this site is really great, ive been coming here for a while and learn a little more everytime i do.
I have noticed that there is often a lot of concerns about 'scams' and also alot of debate about what a legitimate investment is.

I really believe that if the mmg community is commited to making this forum the best it can be, then we should seriously consider creating a section which explains the basics of HYIP and Autosurf, prehaps include a glossary of terms, have a specific place were members can post threads of advice.

I think the more clued up new investors are about the nature of the investment and the level of risk they are taking, then the less chance ther is of them loseing money.




there is an enormous amount of expertise within these forums and

Good idea, but we would need some good writers to put it together so that people can learn a bit more before they try out various methods of making money online.

now this post i like silly to even start this topic. Stop blaming mmg mods and accept your own actions. Obviously not alot of rule reading going on anymore.

For the record I MMG

And there are good programs ran properly here with good admin.

internet = scammer paradise
not just mmg

you have summerised this thread in a nutshell, bravo

This business rely on the scams ... they pay the forums hosting , they pay for ads .... for attention and visitors This whole business is big scam and it';s our choice if we will play it or not

yeah we all need to take responsibility for our own actions..whether to spend or not..and how much..just a game is all..

Anyone who has been here for some time, I believe MMG members will have a lot of faith in you.

Instead of being hyip members, I strongly suggest that you should try to run a hyip program of your own.

Let this minimizes the risk of MMG members being trapped by unknown "honest" scammers..