Some exchangers offer now a bonus up to 10% if you exchange other e-currencies (LR ECU SP STP CGOLD etc) for receiving Perfectscamoney! Don't ask which exchangers, we don't promote any of them here!
Send $1000 of any of these serious e-currencies, receive up to $1100 of perfectscamoney, that will soon disappear! You will be one of the heroes of this perfectscam!
Do you remeber some years ago, before E-gold closed? Exchangers offered up to 50% bonus! For Perfectscamoney, now "only" 10%, let's guess it is just a beginning! Some exchangers at least are lucid enough to get rid quickly of their perfectscamoney! Some other exchangers prefer post here on this forum to support perfectmoney, just remember how some corrupted exchangers made some years ago by promoting OSGOLD before their runaway!
Some news from the frontline now: After their Laiki/Marfin bank accounts were closed, after their Hellenic Bank account was closed, Perfectscamoney opened a bank account in Wirecard, a German bank. Our inside source at Perfectscamoney kindly communicated us some new documents that we immediately forwarded to Wirecard in Germany. Their reply was very positive and I am ready to guess that one more bank will kick the a$$ of these perfect scammers!
Meanwhile they use Technocash, funny to see a "licensed financial company" as perfectscamoney introduces itself, using such an account! Soon they will use Paypal
Optimists will say "Perfectscamoney is reliable, hey I just received my bank wire"! Sure, like all HYIP, they pay some time. The result, we all know, everybody will cry. At least those who ignored the red lights that are flashing since months about perfectmoney. The end is coming now: No more bank accounts, some users waiting their wires since a few weeks, and now up to 10% premium to buy perfectscamoney!
Good luck if you are still having some perfectscamoney! All scams need heroes!!!
maxi2009
Nov 18 2009, 04:35 AM
HELLO. yes I think you are right. I sent beginning of october some money to perfect money. this is the iter; money is sent to rechnocash, then to Midas Gold Exchange and then to PM. My money disappeared. Today, which is about 40 days after my bank wire was sent to Technocash PM blames MGE and they blames PM. I talked quite extensively with technocash director and they expalined few things to me. meantime they close MGE account, but they say they will help me if needed to get my money back. Anyway my investment was supposed to go to VANFUNDS, i do have other investment with them and they do pay very regularly as promised, so nothing to say about VANFUNDS, execpt why they choose PM to precess their incoming money flow. Anyway here is my story.ciao from italy
finix
Nov 18 2009, 09:10 AM
QUOTE (maxi2009 @ Nov 18 2009, 07:35 AM)
Anyway my investment was supposed to go to VANFUNDS, i do have other investment with them and they do pay very regularly as promised, so nothing to say about VANFUNDS, execpt why they choose PM to precess their incoming money flow. Anyway here is my story.ciao from italy
The fund you are talking about doesn't accept Perfect Money or any other e-currencies. It accepts bank wire transfers and investments from the account balances only. If you have an account with them, you'd know to send the wire transfer directly to your account with this fund.
This makes your story about your funds between PM-MGE-Technocash drama sounds like a bold-faced lie, especially without the MGE order reference number.
finix
Nov 18 2009, 09:20 AM
QUOTE (maxi2009 @ Nov 18 2009, 08:35 AM)
I talked quite extensively with technocash director and they expalined few things to me. meantime they close MGE account, but they say they will help me if needed to get my money back.
This is ridiculous. Technocash director talked to you about the account of another customer? They wouldn't be in business if they did that.
maxi2009
Nov 19 2009, 02:52 AM
QUOTE (finix @ Nov 18 2009, 06:20 PM)
This is ridiculous. Technocash director talked to you about the account of another customer? They wouldn't be in business if they did that.
I AM VERY SORRY FOR HAVING WROTE THIS BUT THIS IS TRUE. THERE ARE TENS OF PEOPLE WHO SENT THEIR MONEY TO PERFECT MONEY GOING THROUGH MIDAS GOLD EXCHANGE EVEN AT BEGINNING OF OCTOBER, AND I AM ONE OF THEM, AND FROM THAT MOMENT OUR MONEY JUST GOT LOST, NEVER REACHED PERFECT MONEY. RE VANFUNDS THEY DO USE LIBERTY RESERVE AND PERFECT MONEY SINCE BEGINNING OF OCTOBER NOT BEFORE AND I THINK THEY DID A MISTAKE. AS FAR AS I KNOW AS PER PERFETC MONEY SUPPORT GOLD MIDAS EXCHANGE IS UNDERGOING LAW INVEST AND THAT ACCOUNT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CLOSED OR FROZEN. I AM NOT TELLING YOU THIS TO DRIVE PEOPLE AWAY FROM PM OR MGE I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY NOT TO SAY THIS BECOUSE THAT WOULD MEAN MY MONEY ARRIVED AND EVERYBODY IS HAPPY. REGARDING THE REFERENCE NUMBER OFFCOURSE I DO HAVE ONE BUT I WILL NEVER PUT MY REFERENCE NUMBER IN THIS OR ANY OTHER FORUM FOR OBVIOUS SECURITY REASONS, FOR MY LOST MONEY'S SAKE SO YOU UNDERSTAND, UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS THE SITUATION AND IT IS NOT JUST BUT THERE ARE LOTS OF ME VERY UPSET. [b]REGARDING MIDAS GOLD EXCHANGE THAT YOU CONTINUE TO HAVE BEAUTIFUL WORDS ABOUT JUST TELL ME FEW THINGS: MGE HAS NO HOME PAGE, NO PHONE NUMBERS,NO ADDRESS, NOT A DECENT SUPPORT A VERY POOR WEBSITE, UNFORTUNATELY I DID NOT KNOW MY MONEY WOULD TRAVEL VIA MGE OTHERWISE I WOULDN'T HAVE SENT MY MONEY IN THAT WAY. [/b] THE TRUE OF THE MATTER IS THAT A LOT PEOPLE SENT MONEY TO PM USING MGE AND THAT MONEY IS NOW LOST. I WILL BE VERY HAPPY TO WRITE GOOD WORDS ABOUT MGE AS SOON AS I GET MY MONEY BACK BUT AT THE MOMENT I SAY AND SHOUT TO EVERYONE I CAN...STAY AWAY FROM MIDAS GOLD EXCHANGE AND PROBABLY EVEN PERFECT MONEY TILL THIS SITUATION IS RESOLVED... AND NOONE IN THE WORLD CAN GHANGE MY MIND AT THIS STAGE, WOULD YOU FINIX??
finix
Nov 19 2009, 04:30 AM
Not trying to change your mind, trying to see what facts you have to support what you post and I see none.
You post a story about some roundabout way of depositing into a fund, no order reference from MGE, no nothing.
You say there is an ongoing investigation of something insidious, nearly implying dead bodies buried somewhere. There is no evidence of that anywhere, so unless you are the investigator, how would you know?
What's true? Technocash director talked to you about the account of another Technocash customer? I don't think so, but feel free to post proof.
If you have proof of wire deposits into vanfunds traveling through PM-MGE-Technocash, post it.
finix
Nov 19 2009, 05:49 AM
QUOTE (maxi2009 @ Nov 19 2009, 06:52 AM)
REGARDING THE REFERENCE NUMBER OFFCOURSE I DO HAVE ONE BUT I WILL NEVER PUT MY REFERENCE NUMBER IN THIS OR ANY OTHER FORUM FOR OBVIOUS SECURITY REASONS, FOR MY LOST MONEY'S SAKE SO YOU UNDERSTAND
This is very irrational, but yes, unfortunately, I do understand better than I want to admit now.
Now, let do this logically.
Either you are sure MGE scammed you - in which case you have no reason to protect the lost money and can freely post proof to nobly warn others (although why? is it going to return your money?) ...
or
... you think MGE is not a scam after all and will resolve your complaint - in which case these posts on forums without proof are a waste time and energy.
Why would a company with a viable business model that makes a good profit on commissions from exchanges try to kill itself by scamming? Unless they are as irrational as you are, there is no reason to scam.
Keep trying to contact MGE, if it doesn't work, file a dispute with VFS.
4grace
Nov 19 2009, 11:14 AM
is perfectmoney can trust? my friend has bank wire deposit by able with perfectmoney but his account not update 1 week ago. he told me don't deposit until his perfectmoney account update.
maxi2009
Nov 20 2009, 01:01 PM
FOR FINIX INFORM YOURSELF A BIT BETTER AND YOU WILL FIND THAT VANFUNDS SINCE BEGINNING OF OCTOBER INTRODUCED LR AND PM AS SYSTEM TO FUND INVESTORS ACCOUNTS, SO MINE IS NOT A LIE IT IS ACTUALLY TRUE AND CAN BED VERIFIED EVEN IN THIS SAME WEB SITE BY GOING IN SEARCH END ENTER VANFUNDS AND U WILL FIND OUT...WAKE UP MATE U DO NOT SEEM TO BE VERY ALERT...
maxi2009
Nov 20 2009, 01:05 PM
THIS IS FOR FINIX WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE ME. LISTEN MY FRIEND IT IS NOT JUST ME WHO IS WAITING FOR MONEY BUT THERE IS A VAST NUMBER OF REAL PEOPLE WHO WIRED MONEY TO PM VIA TECHNOCASH ACCOUNT WHO THEN TRANSFERRED MONEY TO MIDAS GOLD EXCHANGE AS PARTNER OF PERFECT MONEY. IT HAS BEEN SINCE THE BEGINNING OF OCTOBER THAT WE ARE WAITING FOR OUR MONEY THAT JUST DISAPPEARED. I AM NOT GOING TO PUT ANY REFERENCE NUMBER HERE FOR OBVIOUS REASON THE ONLY REFERENCE NUMBER OR CODE IS THIS... 6a0wa9 INVOICE # XXXXXXX... WHERE THE CODE U SEE IS THE REFERENCE THAT MEANS MIDAS GOLD EXCHANGE . I REPEAT WITH CAPITAL LETTERS NOBODY SHOULD DO BUSINESS WITH MIDAS GOLD EXCHANGE AND PERFECT MONEY AT THIS POINT IN TIME TILL THE SITUATION IS RESOLVED. BELIEVE ME I AM GOING TO FLOOD THE NET-AND I KNOW HOW TO DO IT-WITH THIS VERY TRUE BAD NEWS ABOUT PERFECT MONEY AND MIDAS GOLD EXCHANGE TILL MONEY WILL POP BACK INTO MY BANK ACCOUNT. I HOPE U UNDERSTAND THIS AND NOTHING AND NOBODY IS GOING TO STOP ME FROM DOING THIS EVEN IF I HAVE TO SPENT 24 HOURS PER DAY IN WRITING THIS ALL OVER THE NET. I AM VERY SORRY THAT U ARE NOT HAPPY ABOUT THIS BUT I HAVE NO CHOICE...AFTER ALL I JUST WANT MY MONEY BACK!!
REGARDING THE "KEEP ON TRYING TO CONTACT MGE" I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO THAT BUT UNFORTUNATELY THEY ANSWER TO ME ONLY ONCE WITH NO REAL ANSWER MGE IN OTHER WORDS TOLD ME TO **** OFF...SO MUCH FOR THIS VERY REPUTABLE COMPANY...OF YOURS???OR MAYBE JUST A FRIEND?
maxi2009
Nov 20 2009, 02:11 PM
HELLO AGAIN FINIX. I HAD A LOOK TO VFS AND IT LOOKS LIKE A VERY POOR PLACE WHERE TO REPORT THE MATTER...ONLY 20 MEMBERS, THE MOST REPUTABLE AND SOLID COMPANIES IN THE INDUSTRY NOT EVEN LISTED AMONGST ITS MEMBERS, I DO NOT THINK IS WORTH MY TIME, I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER TO REPORT THE MATTER HERE...http://www.fbi.gov/...AND PROCEED TO THIS...http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx...OR THIS ONE HERE...http://www.usa.gov/Citizen/Topics/Internet_Fraud.shtml...AND FEW OTHERS BUT I WILL BE WAITING A BIT LONGER AND THEN IF THERE IS NO SOLUTION....THIS FRAUD REPORT WILL BE SEEN ALL OVER THE NET...BUT BELIEVE ME I DO NOT WANT TO RUIN ANYONE'S BESINESS, I JUST WANT MY MONEY BACK
finix
Nov 21 2009, 12:36 AM
QUOTE (maxi2009 @ Nov 20 2009, 06:11 PM)
I HAD A LOOK TO VFS AND IT LOOKS LIKE A VERY POOR PLACE WHERE TO REPORT THE MATTER...ONLY 20 MEMBERS
MGE IS a member, isn't your issue with MGE?
QUOTE (maxi2009 @ Nov 20 2009, 06:11 PM)
, I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER TO REPORT THE MATTER HERE...http://www.fbi.gov/...AND PROCEED TO THIS...http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx...OR THIS ONE HERE...http://www.usa.gov/Citizen/Topics/Internet_Fraud.shtml...AND FEW OTHERS BUT I WILL BE WAITING A BIT LONGER AND THEN IF THERE IS NO SOLUTION....THIS FRAUD REPORT WILL BE SEEN ALL OVER THE NET...BUT BELIEVE ME I DO NOT WANT TO RUIN ANYONE'S BESINESS, I JUST WANT MY MONEY BACK
None of the companies involved are registered in the U.S., and you are not a U.S. citizen even, what do you think FBI can do for you?
And what are you going to say exactly?
Dear FBI, I wanted to invest into a scam registered in Panama to gain profit from other peoples' losses, but my money got lost in some roundabout transaction?
Good with that. I'd go with VFS, not FBI, but do as you like.
finix
Nov 21 2009, 01:06 AM
QUOTE (maxi2009 @ Nov 20 2009, 05:05 PM)
REGARDING THE "KEEP ON TRYING TO CONTACT MGE" I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO THAT BUT UNFORTUNATELY THEY ANSWER TO ME ONLY ONCE WITH NO REAL ANSWER MGE IN OTHER WORDS TOLD ME TO **** OFF...
Well, if MGE told you that in so many words, then your issue is not with MGE. I'd still check with VFS to make sure since MGE is a member there.
If your issue is with PM or Technocash or even Vanfunds, those are not VFS members and you need to contact them directly.
maxi2009
Nov 21 2009, 08:36 AM
I'LL GO TO CANADA THEN AND FBI IS INTERNATIONAL, AND IF THOSE COMPANIES ARE SCUM HOW COME SUCH A REPUTABLE COMPANY AS MIDAS GOLD EXCHANHE WORK IS TO MAKE SURE MONEY ARE BEING TRANSFERRED TO THOSE SCUM COMPANIES?
PLEASE EXPLAIN
finix
Nov 21 2009, 09:14 AM
Why would exchangers give a hoot what you intend to do with your money? That's how they make a living. Stick it in vanfund or any other scam of your choice, who cares. It's just when you complain to government agencies, don't forget to mention this part - how you wanted to spend the money, so that they know the whole story.
FBI is not international, it's for the U.S. only, and crimes that affect U.S. citizens. This has nothing to do with the U.S. unless you hold a U.S. passport in addition to your Italian one.
Before you start complaining, figure out whom to complain about first, and they only way you can do this is to contact all of the companies involved. MGE already told you it's not an MGE issue, contact the other ones now.
Patryn
Nov 21 2009, 01:28 PM
QUOTE (maxi2009 @ Nov 20 2009, 11:11 PM)
I HAD A LOOK TO VFS AND IT LOOKS LIKE A VERY POOR PLACE WHERE TO REPORT THE MATTER...ONLY 20 MEMBERS, THE MOST REPUTABLE AND SOLID COMPANIES IN THE INDUSTRY NOT EVEN LISTED AMONGST ITS MEMBERS, I DO NOT THINK IS WORTH MY TIME
Your call. There is no larger network, and contrary to your ignorant opinion: The "most reputable and solid companies" are either members or work very closely with the VFS Administration privately. PerfectMoney told you to send a wire to Technocash, who credited funds to MGE, and PM is telling you to go harass MGE because of this? If I tell you to send me a wire, and give you wire instructions for some random Joe, who tells you that he sent it to Bob, who is responsible? Bob, or myself?
Also, last time I checked, there were over 37 members. Not 20.
Patryn
Nov 21 2009, 01:30 PM
QUOTE (maxi2009 @ Nov 21 2009, 05:36 PM)
I'LL GO TO CANADA THEN AND FBI IS INTERNATIONAL, AND IF THOSE COMPANIES ARE SCUM HOW COME SUCH A REPUTABLE COMPANY AS MIDAS GOLD EXCHANHE WORK IS TO MAKE SURE MONEY ARE BEING TRANSFERRED TO THOSE SCUM COMPANIES?
Exchangers do not work to ensure that your funds reach any investment scam. The job of an exchanger is to convert your funds to YOUR e-currency account, and vise versa. What you do with the e-currency afterwards is not the problem of any exchanger. A valid comparison would be making a withdrawal at the bank. It is not the teller's job to make sure that you don't do anything insidious with your funds. They give you the funds, and what you do from that point forward is your business.
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