Who are all these "major promoters," and is it possible they are distancing themselves for the same reason that Paul of MNO is? Which is to say, since there are no more referral commissions it's beneficial for them to lead their followers into other plans that do pay one? Also where are you getting this information?

Thanks, Juli

HYIP's are games. But with a business mind you can earn from them. When you only play them like a casino game, you're probably won't earn much from them.

Patrick.

4/11/2010 23:53 35263945 U5194384 (PTVD2) – $10.00

This is why marketingmaster is always telling everybody to "only take some" out of "investment" and not be greedy! To share and look out for all. The promoters want every nickel they can get and they pull it out as soon as they can.

As for now I will play the hyips, as to me,it is much more profitable and addictive,than any other form of gambling,or any other addiction..lol....

We all know the risks and we continue to play the game. The game is not only fun but profitable.

Greg

To whom do you address your story ? Why didn't you write the story 6 months ago in this thread ? Because you had some interest in this site. When your interest is no more served you evidently want to bring it to an end by some personal rivalry...very cheap !

my...the things people talk about to pass the time......but exactly, I know the signs,when I see them, I get out,warn my team,etc...BUt sometimes myself will get greedy and play till the end,and I ave lost too,not as much recently,but also that is why I have always had a good 20 or so of these going,just incase....some smaller,some larger investments,but I always reinvest what is needed to catch up and make up for the ones I loose out with..I believe ptv started out with good intentions,but as i always say too much info can kill anything,company online or off,almost like a domino effect..I almost wish forums were never started if it werent such a god method of advertising I am sure there would be none, as the negatives and naysayers,scare more than programs scam,and in turn,thats what causes programs to sut down more than anything else....reguardless...good luck to everyone in this program or any other,there is a skill to require to actually win at these more than loose,etc....takes many trial an errors unfortunatly,and experience....timing is everyhting but I do know now there are one or two solid long term programs out now that will shatter the hyip world all together,as we call them lyips....much lower,much more long term,legal and stable companies....As for now I will play the hyips, as to me,it is much more profitable and addictive,than any other form of gambling,or any other addiction..lol....
cheers and good luck to everyone!play smart,play safe:P

Here comes another PAID screenshot to my LR account.




Thank you so much Garrett

i received my payment amidst all the problems the site is currently having.

API 4/9/2010 19:41 U2631734 (PTVWithdraw5) + $1514.31

It has been stated by many that Lynndel is paid to do the dirty on Programs, genuine or otherwise. I do not know but his almost ubiquitous presence on places such as here delivering the same kind of material suggests, just like PTV, that all may not be as it seems.


Morgan

If you know your geology mineralization then you'll read the above with somewhat of a smile. It's wrong.

Well, here's what the Securities Division, Arizona Corporation Commission had to say about miining scams, and I quote: "Reports of precious metals not normally found together in the same ore. For example, while gold and silver are commonly found together, gold and platinum group metals are not." Garrett was the one who said they were. I was merely paraphrasing what he said. You really should listen to his 2 recordings about the silica mine, and then you would have known what he said.

I would be interested to hear more. From your previous comment I know you're no geologist but you are supposedly experienced in research so maybe you could add something on your source for this information to make up for the loss of credibilty from the first comment.

Again quoting from the Securities Division, Arizona Corporation Commission: "Reports indicating the presence of ½ ounce or more of gold per ton or ore. A mine site with ore values consistently this high would represent one of the richest finds of the century!" Garrett was the one who said there was 8 Million ounces of gold, maybe more found at this silica mine. As well as zinc, copper, platinum, palladium, and a few others. The only thing missing was diamonds and oil. Too bad this won't be around long for him to embellish the mine with even more mineral discoveries that will make billions of dollars for PTV.

Not that you will end up being wrong for sure but I do believe you said that about last month.

Like us all, including the author of the above quotes, I have no true idea which direction PTV is currently heading. I do see signs of them being strong and possibly genuine having caught up on payments and returned to normal schedule, which I understand is rare if not a first for this industry. However, I agree caution should be exercised with the kind of arrangement PTV offers.

It has been stated by many that Lynndel is paid to do the dirty on Programs, genuine or otherwise. I do not know but his almost ubiquitous presence on places such as here delivering the same kind of material suggests, just like PTV, that all may not be as it seems.

While it has been said I am paid, it is not true. Wish it was, but alas it is just another lie being told.

Straight from PTV itself if you are that unsure then wait and see, you are not necessary for PTV. Equally, if your mind is more risk inclined then PTV is worthy of further enquiry.

Morgan

Is it just me, or is it taking longer and longer for investments to expire? Mine is now over 5 days late and is still showing active. I should get extra earnings for the delay .......

I was going to ask this in the chat but I have forgotten my password, and there does not seem to be any way to retrieve it ..... any ideas?

The mods said just to create a new account for the chat room

Thanks "Eye"
I am kind of attached to my username but I guess I will have to be creative.

Answering your first point. Garrett is a human and all the IT staffs and MODS are human. Maybe you would think Garrett is a BOT, but that's a compliment you're actually giving to garrett that how well he's managed it. A greatest compliment I hear from naysayers regarding PTV is that Garrett is a BOT, that means he works perfectly, inspite of him being a HUMAN.

Coming to your remaining points.

What if the site lasts this month and next month? Are you ready to apologise as well? If you're not confident of that statement then you're not liable to issue such statements. But if you're confident, provide valid proofs. If you're not able to, I'll give the benefit of doubt to garrett than you. But hey, since you issued that statement in red, what will you DO if this lasts till june, write an apology letter to garrett for posting immaturely?

And BTW, it was umbertino himself who told he would issue an apology letter not garrett and he also told naysayers are not welcome to the PTV community. So why brag all the way? Don't you want members to enjoy a good earning community? If you don;t want to earn yourself and earn via a bank of 2-3% PA, so be it, why are you disturbing other my dear. This is the 2nd consecutive program you're disturbing and I kinda don't like it. Anyway, once said is enough, why brag and drag it for years, answer me this before you get to any other point. Also You think all investors here are immature idiots? Answer me this 2 queries and then you can keep your point.

Are you really sure, you're writing in the HYIP arena or your nearby bank? This is BUSINESS and serious investors are involved and I'm glad you're not a part of it. Anyway we're already reaping good fruits than all the guys who do it via bank.

M!:)

Is it just me, or is it taking longer and longer for investments to expire? Mine is now over 5 days late and is still showing active. I should get extra earnings for the delay .......

My 8th april got expired today. just requested a withdrawal.

What you mean exactly when you say "with a business mind you can earn from them"? I'd like to hear that from you. Thanks in advance.
I know you can make some money but certainly just a li'l of that ( proportionately to the amount spent , which is usually low or very low as People generally don't want to risk and rightly so...), generally speaking and certainly NOT to the tune they promise you in their flashy luring and goading websites. They can't steadily pay you the money they told you they were going to pay you.....So you can NEVER plan anything with them... Their reason for appearing on Forums is only one: to hook as many as possible and scam them.....In order to do that and be in profit they can't and won't pay you as promised in the medium-to-long -term or else their scamming intent would go astray and they simply cannot afford for that to happen..

The same arguments you are making here were also made for programs like CEP and P2P, and many others. I hate to break it to you, but the "naysayers" have never been wrong, and the "cheerleaders" have never been right. And I'm sure that record won't be broken with PTV.

I'm amazed that people continue to entrust their money to, and defend, a proven liar.

Do you know a business were you can actually plan? Every investment (online or offline) is a gamble. You can play the HYIP game like a casino game, throw your money around, and loose everything. Or you can play this by following some basic rules, and probably earn some nice profits from them.

If you don't accept how HYIP works, then don't invest in them.


I looks like you're also a person who doesn't accept how HYIP works? Sure the naysayers have never been wrong! Every program stops paying at some point. But it doesn't mean you can't earn from them.

Some people really shouldn't play HYIP

Patrick.

The same arguments you are making here were also made for programs like CEP and P2P, and many others. I hate to break it to you, but the "naysayers" have never been wrong, and the "cheerleaders" have never been right. And I'm sure that record won't be broken with PTV.

I'm amazed that people continue to entrust their money to, and defend, a proven liar.

Latest News from PTVpartner

We have been working thru a few situations. All in all we have good news.
We have discovered what is necessary to accelerate the 4 day loss. When we are finished all plans will be returned to their original mature date. All funds will be compiled to your withdraw accounts or reinvested based on your auto-reinvest settings.

The issue we are facing is that with all the problems and fears from the HYIP world. Large withdraws have drained the on-hand ecurrency. As we have always told you, we only float three days average withdraws. We are purchasing additional ecurrency in order to keep up with withdraw demand.

If you members would not freak out so much and calm down and be patient we can get this done. We may be a little behind because bank wires and moving funds take time, but we WILL get it done. We always have. Look for your 4 day lags to accelerate in the next 72 to 96 hours. At about that same time our ecurrency reserve should arrive and all members who want to withdraw may do so.

We apologize for the problems and wish all those leaving, prosperity in abundance.

True, you deserve an extra profit
...has the expire date in your back office changed ?

Latest News from PTVpartner

We have been working thru a few situations. All in all we have good news.
We have discovered what is necessary to accelerate the 4 day loss. When we are finished all plans will be returned to their original mature date. All funds will be compiled to your withdraw accounts or reinvested based on your auto-reinvest settings.

The issue we are facing is that with all the problems and fears from the HYIP world. Large withdraws have drained the on-hand ecurrency. As we have always told you, we only float three days average withdraws. We are purchasing additional ecurrency in order to keep up with withdraw demand.

If you members would not freak out so much and calm down and be patient we can get this done. We may be a little behind because bank wires and moving funds take time, but we WILL get it done. We always have. Look for your 4 day lags to accelerate in the next 72 to 96 hours. At about that same time our ecurrency reserve should arrive and all members who want to withdraw may do so.

We apologize for the problems and wish all those leaving, prosperity in abundance.

No, it has not changed. The good news is that my plan has finally expired and I was able to make a withdrawal request. http://www.moneymakergroup.com/style_image...s/icon_open.gif
Will post when paid, of course.

Let's see if this time 1 month or 2 months or 6 months from now we'll still be talking it's going down any minute now.