There's a lot of activity at PTV.

Lots of problems in accounts being fixed, and over a $million$ in payouts the past two days.

Thank You, She is my favorite along with her songs with Conway, They were great together.
Sorry for the off topic.

hello all,
WOW! is all I can say about PTV.Overpaying members to speed up recovery!Now that's a new one in this business.I am sure they will get everyones account straightened out.I am not a cheerleader but I am impressed with Ptv.I hope everyone that received overpayment does the right thing and return money.
Mike

My first of three payouts:
Date: 2010-09-04 19:32:37
Batch: 35107441
From Account: U2631734
Amount: $196.99
Memo: PTV Partner Withdrawal # 16425

I made a lot of money with PTV today.

Greg

Yes, PTV decided not to pay referral commissions. They have that right. Do you think they broke their own rule or something?

MNO might be trying to call it like it is, or might be using this as an opportunity.

The fact is, Paul Abramson relies heavily on referral commissions. He's had it very easy for a long time. He makes tens of thousands every month on residuals. So it's easy to see that when one of his prime producers gets pulled he would be upset about it. It affects his bottom line. If he were a man of principles it would be just the roll of the dice. But he's reactionary, and presumptive.

The fact is, PTV was having data problems, as they explained, and their platform was making double payments to some members, at which time PTV was faced with a decision. What to do about the accounts that were overpaid? So they suspended them, temporarily. Hey, maybe Abramson was one of those, eh? I don't know.

PTV came up with a plan of action, one that demanded late hours and overtime. It also meant that referral commissions would have to be eliminated. It was a very short time after the site was down that Abramson moved PTV over into Problems. That is understandable. But it was only after 3 days that Abramson moved it to "Not Paying" and that was not true. Nor was it long enough. Usually, monitors allow 7 days before doing that. The point is, Abramson moved it to NOT PAYING because PTV was not paying MNO commissions!!

Therefore, it seems to me that MNO ought to realize that while we appreciate accurate reporting, we don't appreciate inside deals and underhanded methods. If he encourages newcomers to go to other programs, just to see PTV get damaged, and to pick up more referrals elsewhere, in the process, then he shouldn't be surprised if someone notices his antics.

I'm making money again and again with PTV:
Date: 2010-09-04 19:32:58
Batch: 35107481
From Account: U2631734
Amount: $196.99
Memo: PTV Partner Withdrawal # 16492


Greg

Yes.

Usage of words like that ( heroically). That's when things seem to lose perspective..............

Sorry to hear it.

Looking at my payout it would seem I was overpaid, but I wasn't.
PTV pays very well.

Hopefully, those who were overpaid pay attention, and don't just figure, "it looks big, but it always looks big."

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.....am also seeing "referral collectors", (not just bloggers) starting to distance themselves from the program.
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Yep, I saw that too, on that other Big Forum. I was quite surprised to read his post . Quite unusual for him to write like that. He's one of the best known characters in the HYIP Community and many look at him for advice even tho he's mainly a ref. comm. Hunter. and one of the biggest at that.. Besides he was praising PTV and worshipping Garrett until yesterday.And today he wrote that post.........Talk about covering one's "back".............

lol. Thanks. But you're intelligent enough to get what I meant.

A perfect trifecta:
Date: 2010-09-04 19:40:10
Batch: 35108369
From Account: U2631734
Amount: $206.78
Memo: PTV Partner Withdrawal # 17159


Greg

Congrats to admins for dealing great with this thumbs up

After serious problems lately, at last one of my mature deposits which is delayed at the active status become expired. And PTV had paid my withdrawal request. The other one expired at 9 April, but now still hanging at the active status. But so far, at least I really appreciate them for being honest trying to solve everything and treat well their costumers, even though I waited quite a long time. For many HYIPs, they could probably have run away, but not PTV. Thanks Admin, wonderful job.

I said nothing about the right to, or not to, stop ref commissions. I quoted your post because you had said you were going to change your ptv acct so you would not be in MNO down line and he would get no more commissions from you. That you were going to join under a friend so they would get the commission. This statement/post by you made me think you were unaware that the ref commissions were still active. My response was that MNO won't get commissions whether you stayed with him or not as the ref commissions were already stopped by ptv.

Some people think that stopping ref commissions is a good idea. Personally I don't. How is ptv going to attract more members without existing members recruiting. Without new money these programs go down real fast. I was hoping this one would last longer but that is the risk we take when joining.

It matters not what you or some others think about MNO. No skin off my back. I and many I know will still look to and follow MNO advise just as we have in the past. Seen to many programs praise the heck out of MNO when they do an interview and have that site on paying stat. Then the very same programs get put in the non-paying or problem stat and the same people bash MNO. MNO has been correct most of the time and even though they take a beating from programs and their members they still stick to their guns and end up being right. Ignore them at your own peril. No sweat off me. I have no stake in it.
Programs always look to blame someone else for their own inadequacies.
I still have hope that ptv will last a bit longer. Just don't like seeing the excuses and worse when they begin to blame others for their troubles. Red flags to me.

I am glad that you do realize there is no longer ref commissions. That was my concern.

Have a nice day,

i could not able to login to ptv . do anybody face the problem or its me alone

i could not sign into chat room because of slow internet conenction
can anybody ask about tis in chat room

I have been able to log all day Then I read you post si decided to check. Got bad message



so not just you.

can you please ask about this in chat room

Flint,
He was talking about his participation in another program, not PTV. I can see how it may have been confusing.
Bokonon

P.S.: I wonder if all the PTV Partners are part of my karass? Or is it merely a granfalloon?

Went to chat. They are talking about the move to the new server (dragon...) seemed to not be a good idea. That server is to slow and having problems with it. so they are talking about moving to another server or back to the old.
Other words looks like it is going to be down again till they figure what server they want and get to it.

Getting some interesting info from trusted sources.
HYIP Scammers relation with pay processor network.
Investigating...

It's not just you http://www.ptvpartner.com looks down from here.

Check it: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ptvpartner.com

Shame on those selfish monitors and poster gang who disappointing innocent investors.

thanks for your posts .

have they said any estimated hours for downtime .... for how many hours will the server be inaccessible ?

came with overjoy to login and make my withdawal as its now 5 days added to my expiry time


but unfortunate ....

hope soon it will be operational

The next payment received from Ptvpartner.com by schedule :

Date: 2010-04-10 05:29
Batch: 35139292
From Account: U2631734
Amount: $47.00
Memo: PTV Partner Withdrawal # 17262

site is accessible now . i could able to withdraw .

thanks admin and team

but the site is little slow and also the last login ip address is not getting displayed

Seems to be a networking problem...and Garrett isn't happy about that so they're searching for the solution. We'll keep you updated. The site is up!!!!!

Happy Hour was great, as usual...with a fun time and money for many!!!!

4/9/2010 19:39 35108225 U2631734 (PTVWithdraw5) + $2.40
Memo: PTV Partner Withdrawal # 17104

Got paid again as normal,honest admin,thanks

Paid:
Date : 04/09/2010 19:01
From/To Account : U1388978
Amount : 195.00
Currency : USD
Batch : 2787733
Memo : API Payment.
Payment ID : 17197
Тhanks admin!

YES PTV IS NOT PAYING Affilite Ref payments .. I dont read that dumb Blog.. Gold poll is better ..

After all the problems and excuses that PTV is giving, I am sure no new investors will be joining and the already existing members of PTV will begin to take out their money and move on the next program.

And I am sure some crappy monitors will do just about everything to bring PTVpartner down because they don't receive some referral commissions anymore

Patrick.

Its good that some dumb monitors are not getting paid, so atleast every one can realize the reliability of monitors.

Thanks for this kinda info. At least u have indicated Ptv running on cycle investments.
Why do you care monitors if u do not follow a ponzi scheme.

And referral commission?
At least try to return all investor's principal. Lol

Referral commission just another excuse for self defence.
What then? Server down? Don't say interpol forcing u to do so. Lol

I'm observing their activities thru a ptv account. Account holder is my friend.

Well i'm off here.

This is an important reason for the number of negative posts ...
PTV is a good site

Go check the other sticky thread which is not paying now. It used to be instant payouts there, but it's all off now. So, you attention is much needed there, not here. , because that's the one you monitor.

M!:)

Well said my friend, atlast now he is unveiled.

Next payment Received as usual.

Date: 2010-04-09 19:37
Batch: 35108073
From Account: U2631734 (PTVWithdraw5)
Amount: $10.00
Memo: PTV Partner Withdrawal # 17046

Date: 2010-04-09 19:34
Batch: 35107625
From Account: U2631734 (PTVWithdraw5)
Amount: $1.60
Memo: PTV Partner Withdrawal # 16658

Date: 2010-04-09 19:33
Batch: 35107497
From Account: U2631734 (PTVWithdraw5)
Amount: $60.00
Memo: PTV Partner Withdrawal # 16515


Thank you, admin!

Money News Online has long been under suspicion for making huge profits from commissions and from having self-serving deals with site administrators to get payment when other members are not paid.

Now it's clear that when Paul Abramson (MNO admin) doesn't get preferential treatment, he throws a tantrum and tries to retaliate.

So we can take a look at our sponsors in whatever sites we are involved with, and if we find "Paul Abramson" there as our sponsor (not just for PTV but for other sites as well) we can let our investment mature and then close the account, wait a while, and then open a new account using someone else for a sponsor.

We can do that, but most of us won't bother to do that. That's how Abramson maintains his base.

The site is working.
It's now 4:05 am PDT (GMT -8 ~actually, -7 with Daylight Savings)

4/9/2010 19:34 35107733 U2631734 (PTVWithdraw5) + $6.00
4/9/2010 19:40 35108405 U2631734 (PTVWithdraw5) + $1.94

That's indeed how he maintains it, but one has to wonder for how long. Up to last December, I was one of those who would gladly sign under him. After all, the more people signed under him, the more important he was considered by programs, and, whenever a program had issue, thanks to his huge downline, he was able to get a reply from the administration within 24 hours. I'm no longer willing to sign under him. He's been promoting just too many blatant scams for the past three months, programs that close within 5 days or even less, but that buy him 600/700/800$ banners. Nothing wrong with selling banners. However, it's become clear that he's just too greedy and, as result, he never recovered from PTVpartner's decision to remove referral commissions. I was talking with the very kind and utterly dedicated Quicksilver in the chatroom this morning, and she told us that he made 14,000$ from PTVpartner, just in referral commissions (so, leaving aside banners).

Then again, nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with that, provided that one remains objective and consistent. Now, it's pretty obvious that he has double standards. The proof is that a program like Verifield, that's been having quite a lot of withdrawal issues for a week, is still listed as 'Paying' on mno.

Latest PTV update about all pendings being paid was strange to me. I checked my account and my payment wasn't paid, but cancelled and returned to my account balance. Requested it again and it's paid now at last:

But my investment is still running, while it should be expired on 8th April, 2 days ago... Contacted support but I'm still waiting for reply.

Also, about double commissions mess - I had some but admin deducted twice the amount sometimes, so I lost some commissions here and cannot pay some refbacks to my referrals. Also after the latest change of script I have some money not credited.

I have set problematic status to them recently because of all the issues. When ALL issues are resolved for everyone I will move them back to the paying programs list. For now just hold on with depositing here.

Regards,
Jacu

Paul has made some serious money with PTV and now he's starting to put them down. I have no respect for this guy whatsoever. IMO he is very hypocritical. In so many words he admits that he promotes "Ponzi's" and
"games" with all these HYIP's that he promotes and when PTV stops paying him referral fees, he starts "warning" people about them. Well, PTV just paid Paul from a withdrawal request and he still tries to bite the hand that has fed him so well. Personally, I just don't care for this man. I believe PTV is different then most of the programs Paul promotes. They have paid me for months along with thousands of other people. They are still paying, even though they've had some script problems. If I were Garrett, I would gladly show Paul the door.

Hi there Flint,
I was wondering which admission you are referring to? I always try to be helpful by the way.

requested a withdrawal yesterday. gope they'll pay me soon.

I commend PTV for overcoming all of these obstacles and keeping an open line of communication which you really can't say for many programs. Looking forward to a prosperous future.

wow...congrats! i'm waiting for mine.

I had thought I had quoted the piece where I had thought you were helpful. Oh well, I should not of said become helpful as I have found most of your posts helpful to others.
What do you think about them not offering ref comm any more?
I thought it to not be such a good idea. How are we to keep people coming in, new money, if people are not given an incentive to do so. I don't keep my ref comm, give back to my enrollees, so no sweat off my back. Just don't think it to be good for the program/ Just MHO.
Good luck on this one. Getting a bit dicey eh? Have a good one.

Because of the down time, the mixed up accounts, the changing of servers, the double pays, PTV lost some data and had to replace, go through the accounting, and try and correct things. There was 4 days of this trouble on going. So PTV extended the mature dates by 4 days for that time period. I believe (not positive) that included the 8th. So your withdraw hopefully will be available on the 12th.
Oh forgot about the time difference PTV is recently talking about so that 4 days could be extended to 4 days and 18 hours according to the chat room Mods. That could put your with draw on the 13th dsepending what time zone your in.