Fellow Traders,

John has set up an account for those that would like to trade for us.
You will be allow to trade a live $1000 account.

You need not have any experience as there will be nightly conference
calls at 10 pm est Mon thru Thurs and sometimes on Friday for training.
This is a good way to get started in Forex and develop the skills to
trade full time.

We are going to sign up 500 traders this year. I can not express what
an opportunity this is. Besides trading with our live accounts we will
pay you 25% of the gains you make. There is no other program
of this magnitude in the forex market.

Your commitment will be 29.00 membership fee per month.
Don't let this pass you by. You may e-mail me at juantonio2@gmail.com
and I will assist in getting you started.


THE TEAM IS WITH YOU IF YOU NEED HELP

As a PT you can trade a live CFT $1000 account with the CFT MT4
platform. We will pay you 25% of the account gain at the end of
the month. You will be able to join our conference call and
training sessions.


YOU ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU LOSE THE $1000


The $1000 accounts are filling up fast. It looks like we
are on schedule to have 500 traders by July 15 or sooner.
If you would like to trade for us and get valuable training
at the same time do not wait to long to sign up. It is almost
June 1 and that would give you an entire month to make
money. The commission to you is 25% of the gain.

If you sign up now you could get a check for your May 2009
trading as John is sending the payments at the end of this
month for your 25% of the gain.


Heres the link to sign up Edit: no referral links are allowed in this section, please add the link to your signature via "MyControls, edit signature"!

Best regards and a lot of pips!!


You will be trading our account. If you go with a broker where you trade your own money you need to remember the trading
is risky. Trading in the off exchange retail foreign currency market is one of the riskiest forms of investments available in the financial markets and suitable for sophisticated individuals and institutions. The possibility exists that you could sustain a substantial loss of funds and therefore you should not invest money that you cannot afford to lose. Nothing in this presentation is a recommendation to buy or sell currencies and WTA is not liable for any loss or damage, including without limitation, any loss of profit which may arise directly or indirectly from the use of WTA tools or reliance on such information.

Is this serious?

So i have to pay you to trade and i ownly get 25% of the profit, now lets look at this rationally, if you are any good at trading in the forex market then money isn't a problem so why would you pay someone money so you could spend your time trading and then once you make all the money only take 25% of the profit.......

Sorry but this makes no sense at all......

Good luck with your crazy system.....

GP

Hi Global probably if it dont make sense the first time you should read it twice or more times untill you understand the concept dude, this is for learning to trade you see yes you pay a fee and you get trainig and a 1000 usd real money account to trade, and it is like a demo but you get 25% of the earnings real money you make (a lot of us are making more than the fee) i think thats good and the training too, but of course theres some "big shots" at trading not for them then or probably yes since everyday we learn something new right, theres probably some guys that want to trade but dont have the cash so this is good to start trading learning and earning (like me) so do you get it now or not yet, anyways im here to answer any questions you might have

Best regards and a lot of pips to you

What a great deal, i pay you $29 and i receive 25% of what i earn, now if you are training people you will tell them that you should never trade more then 2 or 3 % of your account on a manual trade.......so you do the maths......3% of $1,000 is $30 a trade is all you should risk......you will be lucky to cover your cost!

Good luck......

GP

Look dude this works for me and others too, i really apreciate your interest you read the post and i all ready explained to you if it suits you and you are interested in joining be welcome if is not for you, leave it, if you have any legit questions ill be more than glad to answer them but if you want to tear appart and critizise and make fun of others then kindly go somewhere else and dont waste my time thank you

best regards and a lot of pips to you

530659 2009.05.22 07:44 buy 0.10 eurusdcft 1.39585 0.00000 1.39785 2009.05.22 08:21 1.39736 0.00 0.00 0.00 15.10
530307 2009.05.22 07:13 buy 0.10 eurusdcft 1.39185 0.00000 1.39383 2009.05.22 07:31 1.39383 0.00 0.00 0.00 19.80
530304 2009.05.22 07:12 sell 0.10 gbpjpycft 149.425 0.000 148.888 2009.05.22 08:09 148.917 0.00 0.00 0.00 54.00
530141 2009.05.22 06:26 buy 0.10 eurusdcft 1.39163 0.00000 1.39363 2009.05.22 07:30 1.39363 0.00 0.00 0.00 20.00
529403 2009.05.22 04:27 balance Deposit 1 000.00


almost on my first hour of trading i got the fee paid then the min trade is .1 in that i would agree to you that it makes you take a more agressive aproach but it works for me

Sorry mate you have me all wrong, i'm not trying to make fun of you, i am in a public forum trying to let all of the people that may be new to forex and looking in the forex section of this forum in on a bit of my 3 years of Forex trading experience and i am not charging anything for what i am saying.

Now if 90% of people are losing money in the forex market and there is 10% making money then do you think that a total newbie should be risking as much as you are on there first and second and third and fourth trade as you have and do you think they will be so successful?

If so why don't you guarantee some of these new traders if you think it is this easy......

What broker are you using?

GP

Silly me, i just noticed you mention trading with CFT MT4 which is great because you can show everyone just how easy this trading is, here is a website that you can hook up to your live MT4 Account which will let everyone watch your live trades and see everything that happens in your account:

MT4 Live Stats - This sorts out the pretenders.....LOL!

Here are mine:

My GoMarket Live Standard Account

Just out of curiosity what ended up happening to this great forex program that you introduced that i found in the closed, inactive, and offline programs section of the forum?

Forex Business Trader

Dude i see your 1st post and it looks to me you are moking but anyways i always think one can learn from everyone and like to be a peacefull person so im in forex from 2 1/2 months ago done a lot of research and a lot of reading worked 3 demos 1 1000 my first one another 10 and another 500 im working my first real at forex open micro i opened with 25 bucks i manage to save from my lately hyip playing where i lost a lot thats why i became interested in forex and last week i met cft opportunity looked interesting and signed up the trades i showed to you are from thursday night i set my goal to 10% dayly gain then i stop and just loook and paper trade the rest of the day when my job gives me time so then i usually dont like to trade fridays and we will see how this week goes im an affiliate to cft better said to winning traders association that does the teaching and they seem to own cft so i think the opp is good for 30 bucks a month and the learning has been good too plus you meet a lot of interesting people out there you should try, im probably lucky at my trades but theres also this guy that just with a move that he makes getting possityve swap he gets some good cash each day plus 3x on wednesday and with that he has more than enough to pay the fee and rake some earnings plus he has the rest of the month so sometimes is also good to get out and meet some people and learn theres other ways of doing things different to what we know right ill try to link my trades this week ok have a nice week end now im going to sleep oh i didnt saw your smart remark until now about the pretenders i ll tell you straight forward im pretending nothing im just natural but anyways keep on going as far as you want, by the way took a peak at your trades pretty impresive only two looses wow i wonder if it is you trading or the droid well anyways you made a nice income there good congrats see you


best regards and a lot of pips to you

This sounds interesting. My question, though, is this: If one already knows how to trade, can he get his account funded without having to pay the monthly fee? And can he use his own trading method or strategy if it has already proved profitable for him?

Thanks for your reply.

Hi moneygo, not fo now the montly fee has to be paid, you can use any method you have thats great and if you are of the first 10 on posting at wta forum some ideas you get 300 extra on your account and also if you become the top trader you get extra 250 added to your account so if you have anymore questions just let me know if you need to get set up just drop me a mail cool thank you

best regards and a lot of pips to you

Thanks for the reply, juantonio.

Can you tell me exactly how this works, step-by-step? And where is the broker located? Are they regulated? How long have they been operating? The website does not tell me much.

Hi moneygo sorry for the late responce i was out of town, well step by step what i didd i paid my subcription by paypal to John´s account 29 bucks then he sent me all the info about the trainig calls and the account numbers to look at the top traders work then i received my 1000 live account deatails and i started trading, went to the forum check it out had some cool tips and read things didnt knew posted some ideas to get an extra 300 on my account and thats it see simple, about ithe brokers data sorry on that you might like to call John the fone is on the page and hes a pretty cool dude im shure hell answer you right, i got into it cause ineed some working capital i know 25% might seem low and paying a fee also but now this is a good way to me to get some extra cash also probably you like to wait and sign up on the 1st of june in case the monthkly paiment goes by the month that way youll have more time to workit out since may is almost over anyways but i also heard the fee is goin up to 39. so dude if you need anything else please dont hessitate good luck

best regards and a lot of pips to you!

Thanks again. I'm inclined to join and will probably do so, as you suggested, in June. I just hope they don't raise the fee yet. Is my understanding correct that this is automated trading? What if you want to trade manually using your own system? Will that be allowed?

And how do you get paid the 25%? Can it be done thru paypal?

Hi moneygo great ill wait for you to join and if you need any help just let me know, automated as in mt4 platform .5 digits you can trade manually perfectly also good shure comissions are paid thru paypal i think earnings also, i got this mail from john today im sorry it might be bad news

Fellow Traders,

We are going to $39 a month on 5/27/09.

Training to manage our $1000 account is $29
a month at this time but we are putting it
up to $39 a month.

If you signed up for the $29 it will stay at
$29 for you. If you sign up today it will stay
at $29 a month for you.

i dont like this but might be a good sign that sistem is working and places are getting filled up so may be is better to sign up even if the month is almost over but that by the other way will be a savings of 10 a month, by the way what ea do you use?



well anithing you decide is ok wish you luck

best regards and a lot of pips to you!

Just updating monthly fee going up to 39, spots are filling up toooo fast, is a succes great, get 250 more for trading up to 1000 for refferals and 20% comission of monthly fee for as long as they remain a member coool im in, are you hurry friendly support and team mates great interesting posts at the forum with toons of tips and ideas for trading very very informative calls great

Best regards an a lot of pips !

Antonio

Here is that link again so we can see how it all works on your live account, it will take you about 5 minutes to set up.

MT4 Live Stats

That is interesting, you never mentioned that you will make money for Referring people.

Now i still can't get my head around this, i can trade someone else's money and lose it which may happen because lets face it if you are a successful trader there is no way you are going to trade all week and only take 25% of your profit as it just doesn't make any sense so most people that will take up this offer will not be very good at trading and will most probably have more of a chance to make there money by Referring other people who can't trade and are desperate to find a way to make money.

Looking forward to seeing your live account stats to see how easily you are covering your monthly fee.

GP

Look globalprofits this thread is for concrete or specific questions on the subject you have had your questions answered i really dont care what you think or whats your opinion on it you are clealy interfering with my job here making your smart a** remarks and also acting more like a ref ho** looks more like you are just posting here to have your signature showing right i believe you have your thread so go tend it and i really appreciate if you stop posting here as i dont go there to post and so everybody happy understand thank you

Best regards

Sorry mate but this is a public forum and i will post questions where ever i want on this forum.
You are welcome to ask as many questions as you want in my thread or anywhere else on MMG.
So you have a job here? Oh i forgot they pay referral payments of up to $1,000 and 20% on monthly fee...

Lets forget i even have an opinion and just post some live MT4 Stats like you said you would just like i do and that way we can see how this wonderful system works.



GP

you are right questions i dont see you post any question i told you just came here to critisize make fun of others because that makes you forgett of people making fun of you, and show your signature well dont bother go some where else dude you dont even trade you use an ea to do that for you so im not even going to bother now you have been answered good bye

If you check my live stats you will see that when the robot trades it has a Stop Loss and Take Profit but mostly when i trade i don't have a Stop Loss as my style is in and out so i don't normally need either.

Live MT4 Standard Account

You may not of noticed as you by your own admission are so new to Foreign Exchange Trading.

I have asked a question which you said you would try to hook up the MT4 Stats for us to see that you are trading and not just getting Referral commissions.

People don't normally care if members of MMG are trading and giving value around the place and make a bit on the side from a program which they have tested in front of everyone with live stats but when they leave out that they are making money from Referral payments and don't supply any live stats then questions must be asked so once again please supply some live stats just like you said you would.

Getting all defensive just looks bad, this is not personal i just want programs in the forex section of MMG to be picked apart from Members who trade and know what they are doing so innocent members who don't have any experience in trading don't get taken for a ride and lose there money and i'm sorry if that offends you or anyone else.

GP

Edited: Please try to follow the rules here- "Be courteous and professional " when addressing another member.

So its new month, have you got your payment from them?

I have decided to give this system a try, will report in 5 weeks if any payment received. Will be running ea(megadroid) on account.

Hi Kielki yes ive got paid my ref commissions thank you for stopping by

Best regards and a lot of pips to you

this just got to me

Fellow traders,

TOP ACCOUNTS(TRADER)!! (LIST OF PAYMENTS!!)

SEE LIST BELOW!!

Here is a list of the top accounts and
the payments!!

We are be putting the price up to $49 usd
so you may want to sign up before.


ABOUT THIS LIST

THE NUMBER AFTER UP IS THE GAIN AFTER
ALL DEPOSITS INTO THE ACCOUNT. THE FIRST
NUMBER IS THE ACCOUNT NUMBER. THE LAST
NUMBER IS THE $ AMOUNT THAT I HAVE JUST SENT.

2088132141 up $1559.10 X 25% = $389.77

2088131860 up $1075.44 X 25% = $268.86

2088131923 up $919.35 X 25% = $229.75

2088131810 up $516 25% = $129.00

2088131993 up $667.97 25% = $166.99

2088131833 up $89.83 25% = $22.45

2088131832 up $195 25% = $48.61

2088132128 up $249 25% = $62.25

2088132343 up $239 25% = $59.75

2088132326 up $235 25% = $58.83

2088131861 up $212 25% = $53.11

2088131801 up $186 25% = $46.51

2088132139 up $183 25% = $45.82

2088132157 up $30 25% = $7.62

2088132342 up $121.05 25% = $30.26

2088132307 up $120 25% = $30.01

2088132315 up $72.33 25% = $18.08

2088132226 up $1064 25% = $266.15

2088132149 up $64.52 25% = $16.13

2088132030 up $59.48 X 25% = $14.87

2088132306 up $43.66 X 25% = $10.91

2088131925 up $25.31 X 25% = $6.32

2088131935 up $22.96 X 25% = $5.74

2088132155 up $20.57 X 25% = $35014

2088132339 up $107 X 25% = $26.88

2088131755 up $8.10 X 25% = $2.02

2088131771 up $2.26 X 25% = $$0.56

2088132131 up $14.04 X 25% = $3.51

2088132132 up $166.99 X 25% = $41.74

2088132126 up $436 X 25% = $109.00



John




Welcome junglist00 nice t have you on the team thank you

if you need anything just drop me an e-mail

Best regads and a lots of pips to you!

Once again you have acted defensive and gotten personal and rude, so far you have accused me of not being able to trade and now you tell me to go back to my cage as if i am some kind of animal .

Still no MT4 Stats but yes of course you received your Referral payment.

GP

I think the request to post live stats is reasonable. It would give people an idea as to how well the EA works.

How about it juanantonio?

Will also look forward to getting junglist's report.

Thanks!

Hi moneygo, with all due respect this is not about any ea this is about a competiition trading methods, i know i offered that i would try to link to my trading ok the thing is that im not promoting here about me or my trading method see nor any ea, this is about a competition the top trader the guy who trades the best and makes the most from WTA CFT account so i thought about it thats the reason i decided i should not post about me or my trading , see theres a lot of great guys on the team and when you become a team member you get their investors password and you can see their trading in real time not just the stats ok, anyways junglist or anyone else WTA member that wishes so to post his trades here please feel free i exposed my reasons but that dont mean they have to be everyones, also any WTA member that likes to see at other members trading can share their investor read only password for personal use, no problem, i think this project as stated is for learning so aything well intended that goes that way be welcome, thank you moneygo for stopping by and for you much appreciated polite comments.



Best regards and a lot of pips to you!

....very easy to say but so far it has seemed to be hard to find.

........well not the MT4 Stats anyway.



Please everyone get in quick, $29 a month.....$39 a month......$49 a month.....oh so does that mean Affiliates make more money when someone signs up through them even if they don't trade!

I have been wrong all along, bugger trading!

GP

PS: I hope you get my Aussie humor......... ..........i tend to agree with moneygo......

it is still early to judge, but this is my take from wta ... 1. they are not pushing/advertising their EA (as yet) . 2. the main focus is to have people trade and share their trading ideas. 3. its their own mt4 platform .....

again, i have only been signed up for a couple of days .. but all the emails i have received so far (its been quite a few emails) , is about conference calls , and traders sharing their trading ideas/strategy.

Also, spread is variable ... megadroid was not able to trade yesterday due to high spreads.

Nice to have you on the team junglist00, ill tell you what if they advertise an ea DONT buy it, trade and share that sounds good, ive seen the spread preety tight all the time, eurusd, and tell me that toy of yours has to be set to trade .12345 digits maybe i have heard that before dont recall where i think you have to modify the settings ad a digit to tp and something else the slippage i think because the extra digit, well wish you good luck


Best regards and a lot of pips to you!

Traders,

Top trader hit $7,189.95 last night!! See you at
3pm or 10pm est!!

As a PT you can login into the account with an
investor pass and watch the trades.
Here are the links to sign up.

Sign up link / top trader link. Edit


PayPal or Credit card sign up here. Edit



John




Traders,

SEE YOU AT 3PM EST TODAY (CALL FOR BEGINNERS)

I put the recording of today's call with the top trader
on the PT member's page.

Best regards and a lot of pips to you all !!!

Edit: referral links removed, please read the rules found Here

Traders,

We are going to $49 a month on Friday
(Lock in your $39 a month).

Lean more at:
Edit



Traders,

Top trader hit $7,189.95 last night!! See you at
3pm or 10pm est!!

As a PT you can login into the account with an
investor pass and watch the trades.
Here are the links to sign up.

Sign up link / top trader link.
PayPal or Credit card sign up here.

Edit


John


Traders,

SEE YOU AT 3PM EST TODAY (CALL FOR BEGINNERS)

I put the recording of today's call with the top trader
on the PT member's page.



John




Sign up link / top trader link.
PayPal or Credit card sign up here.


Edit




Traders,

THE TOP TRADER SAID HE WOULD BE ON THE 10PM EST CALL!!

TOP TRADER IS NOW AT Edit

HEAR FROM TOP TRADER HERE!

Best regards and a lot of pips to you all!!

Edit: referral links removed, please read the rules found Here

Dear Sir,

I have the capabilities, experience and i'm very confident, but, i don't have money to join you... in fact i'm looking for supporters right now, well that's not the case, i want to know if you can give me a hand and trade for free your accounts, i've been demo trading for the last two years but i quit because i had no real money to get in, i've trained and backtested several methods... if you think i'm worthy give me a hand, i'm 100% sure i won't dissapoint you.

Best regards,

John Edited:link removed

Hi sponsormydreams im shure we can work out something please email me juantonio2@gmail.com thank you

Update ...
well i have been signed up on CFT now for about 6 weeks, they have changed format from paying monthly to where you have to open a live account with them and they will deposit trading commission to that account.
I have open account, will not fund though, once my commission is transferred i will see if i can withdraw without any problems else will be cancelling membership. So far $60 out of pocket.

well commission was deposited to my live account, will test for another 2 months then try withdrawal and see what happens

hi junglist00, thank you very much for the update, after all it looks like this deal had a big string attached, im not opening no live account, let us know, thanks

So i guess that is what i was trying to point out to people before they wasted there money, you have received ref commissions and now we see why you wouldn't link the stats you don't have a live account.

That is all i was trying to point out to the members of this forum, not to trust people that won't supply live stats, it's best if they are live stats on a live account but even if they are on a demo and the person is being totally transparent at least you are half a chance of seeing what is good value and what is just junk and who is trading for real and who is just cleaning up on Affiliate checks. (It may seem like i am against Affiliate's, i'm not but when it comes to the dangerous world of forex where innocent people can lose lots of money i hate when people that have no idea of how to trade push products with no concern for others.)

GP

GP
It doesn't have anything to do with live stats as you are setup to trade your own account on their system. So, I could show you live stats if I wanted. The problem as i see it with this company is that they advertise trade our money and we pay you a commission to your paypal account for your gains at the end of the month .... this have not been the case. They did however transfer the commission to another live account i setup, but they also want me to fund this account which i will not be doing.

If you go through the history of this thread you will see what i am talking about, i tried to point out exactly what you are saying right from the start, what is that saying "if it seems to good to be true then it probably is."

As if they were going to let total newbies have $1,000 of there money to lose, there had to be a catch which is why i was asking juantonio to put up live stats because he was claiming that he was trading with $1,000 of there money in a real account, here is a post from him:



GP

Well, I have cancelled my monthly service ... currently down $60 ....
i will continue trading live account i created that was funded with commission $124.
when i get to about $500 I will try to withdraw and see what happens.

Thanks for the update, junglist00.

GP has a point in that there seems to have been some kind of misrepresentation in the fact that people are made to believe that they will be able to trade the firm's money and enjoy a share of the profits made.

But if it turns out that junglist is not able to withdraw from his account, then the obvious conclusion is that this was just a lure to sucker people into joining the company and paying monthly fees, if not actually funding their live account using the company as their broker.

I'm now glad I reconsidered joining.

Hello everyone

I signed up a while back an heard nothing.

In the mean time started with the FXCM micro.

The fees and whole package sound good for new people that really are new to this forex.

So you really only get money if you refer new customers.

I gave up on getting people into programs that just are full of promises that never work out.

Well does this program work or not.

thanks Len

Update ... I was able to withdraw funds $150.00 from live account. Still have $143 trading.

Is this "deal" still available?

Basically you pay the company $49 a month in order to have access to trade a $1,000 account, so in effect you are giving them a 4.9% monthly return free and clear plus any profit you may make on the trades?

Not much of a deal if you ask me.

When I had signed up it was $29/mth, if you can make more than you pay in commission then its worth it. I personally have since cancelled and now only trading the commission I made for 2 mths that was transferred to a live account.

I have been looking for a way to learn forex and it seems that this program is not the best way to start. Can someone tell me the name of the company? I suspect it may be " winning traders association".