This site looks interesting to me
http://www.swisscash.net
Anyone have DD on it or experience with it please share thanks

MINIMUM INVESTMENT FOR INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS $50,000 FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS ? BEYOND THE POCKET OF THE AVERAGE JOE.

Where did you get your information from by the way It clearly states that MINIMUM INVESTMENT is $100 and the average monthly return is 20%. Check the FAQ page.

Anyways, this is one of the best designed sites i have seen in the hyip/non hyip industry and could be the next big one. I will wait and see what the other big players on MMG think of it.

I was reading the Swiss Mutual site and not Swisscash , thats where i made the mistake , Swiss Mutual site states min investment for individual is $50,000 however i now realise that this is a different program.
Cheers.

Not a problem Anyways it looks like a legit program. You can see that there was a lot of effort put on the site so I hope some of the experienced individuals here will contact admin for additional information in order to see if there is real trading going on.

Here are some interesting FAQ I found on the site:

When did SwissCash starts?

SwissCash is a project pioneered in the year 2005 as a sector of Swiss Mutual Fund (1948) S.A.

Why an offshore investment?

Offshore countries offer a more flexible financial environment, taxation scheme and regulations for Swiss's clients; thus a more stable and higher returns on their investment. You would not want your 300% SIP be reduced to 150% because the particular country in which we operates, imposed a 50% corporate tax on SwissCash.

Why SwissCash is able to offer such high return for SIP Programs?

Put it this way. If an investor invest USD1,000,000 with Swiss Mutual Fund and we promise to trade his money in International Market today and yield him back USD1,010,000 in one Trading Day, it will be considered a low return. Bare in mind, 10,000 returns on 1,000,000 is 1% per day. On average, there are 20 Trading Days per 30 Calendar days. Therefore, SwissCash SIP payment of 20% per calendar month is a moderate return rate. International Banks such as Citibank occasionally offer Investors a 700% returns per annum for a minimum of USD10 million deposits.

Why SwissCash wants to set up a business module of mass participation? Since Swiss Mutual Fund has excellent business model, why need so many investors whose quantum of investment range from USD100 to USD100,000?

We have to look back to SwissCash Vision that is to create millionaires out of ordinary individual in many corners of the world. We hope these Swiss Millionaires will continue to support future financial products offered by SMF.

I am quite interested in this one. They have a comprehensive legal "service agreement". They want to limit their liability to 100$ also....


" In the event that a court or arbitration panel, as the case may be, should hold that the limitations of liabilities or remedies available as set forth in this
Agreement, or any portions thereof, are unenforceable for any reason, or that any of your remedies under this Agreement fail then you expressly agree that
under no circumstances will the total, aggregate liability of Swiss and its Third Party Service Providers, employees, distributors, agents or affiliates,
to you or any party claiming by or through you for any cause whatsoever exceed $100 (U.S.), regardless of the form of action and whether in contract,
statute, tort or otherwise. "



Need to do further analysis on this operation though. Seems they only accept wire transfers etc, no e-currencies . + 20$ fee for that too..

I tried to join but it goes by referer ivitations only.
I have contacted them to inquire how one can join.



So i guess it is private by invitations only.

Pretty silly if this wass real business and wish to manage funds for investors.

Can you please explain what you mean by that!

Whats silly about it , plenty of opps choose private Invitation only , i consider your comment to be even sillier.

like the site - need more info

If a business wish to be private which is fine then keep it that way.
Having the join button active without letting you join does not make
any sense to me and as far as i am concerned real business which manage
funds would be more than happy to accept new customers based on their
financial resources and not on whther you have been "invited" by current
investor.

Sorry not familiar with any legit financial business working that way.

HMMM so you say you contacted them to enquire as to how you can join , then you accuse them of not being a real Business , so why are you contacting them ! which is it ?

Does anyone know a person that can invite us into this program? Hopefully we can get more detail about their investments.

Hi guys...

This is the link: http://www.swisscash.biz/myami1533504.

2. click enter site

3. click join us

4. choose individual or company

5. fill in the blank...

You all can reg and you will get conformation instantly via mobile phone!

This is great! You have 14 days before your acc remove from their system.

Have a nice day

m2biz05

Hello m2biz05, can you please tell me how long have you been an investor and how did you join this program? Any info on this company would be great!

What came first?contact as i had an interest,seeing the kind of response i got
dIdn't fit A "real" business seeking to raise capital from investors in general.

m2biz05

Thanks for the invitation code.

Hi guys...

Actually I just join this program under my upline. That link is not mine. That is my upline's link.

His website is http://www.dreamkaya.biz. You can ask him for more info. Sorry about this.

I heard from him that swisscash.biz just start in May 2005. That's mean it's still a baby..


Thanks

m2biz05

Well, remember to become an affiliate one has to invest $1000.
Soooo, what I'm thinking is only those people are the ones advertising it. So, if you go thru the direct link you will not be able to join. Now, if you visit a referral link, then it will allow you.

I like the program... looks pretty good.

They only accept bank wires?

Yes...

They only accept bank wires

m2biz05

So anyone looking to join this yet?

In Gold Horizon...They say it is scam...See below..

WHOIS INFO:

Quote:
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IP Location: United States - Iowa - Cedar Falls - Fastservers Inc
Reverse IP: Web server hosts 1 websites
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>>>> Whois database last updated on: Tue Nov 15 21:23:55 GMT 2005
EMAIL Host
mail.swisscash.biz. IP(s) 202.189.48.230
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The IP address for the domain is served out of Iowa; this is the only domain at this IP.
The IP address for the Mail host is in Malasyia, and the registrant for this server is in Kula Lumpar.
Neither IPs are associated with any Scams I have on record.

It is not a secure website.
Domain Registration by Registerfly protects the operators from identity.

Your guess on this would be good as mine.

I don't understand your reasoning behind why you say Gold Horizons calls it a scam, the proof you give with the whois information proves it is not a scam.

I signed up to find the wires have to go bank account in Cyprus.
Where do they go from there is a mystery,however the only one who
can shed some info over that is m2biz05 sponsor ,supposedly in since
the site went up few months ago and he btw reside in Malaysia and i my
gut feeling tells me the money goes into that country too,no base to this tho.

Well, thats enough for me, Cyprus is the home of many grubby finance
schemes & swindlers.

Hi guys,

Fyi, I had been following the developments of Swisscash for the past 4 months. Payments have been successful, or in other words, the track record is excellent. Total investments from M'sia is more that USD 300,000 (figure obtained from the group that has been promoting this here).

I joined two months ago and I have received my dividends without fail. There's even an sms alert system which is very handy.

You can either wire your money or purchase the currency via 1 to 1 transfer from members (those earning high monthly income). It's your choice.

My referral was recently paid USD3000. The money can be transferred directly to any bank account (wire transfer).

For more info, you can email me anytime. shen79_2000@yahoo.com

Thanks.

Wow , thats interesting , so can you confirm that Cyprus is their Banking location , are all payments made from Cyprus.
Cheers.

The money maybe going to Malaysia... but at least is a bank wire transaction and it would be a lot easier to track them than any of all this HYIPS going around.

Wish I could test them....

Hi !
I joined this recently. www.swisscash.biz/mylog0576701
sponsored 2 guys and got my returns immediately. money wired back to your accout of any chosen bank . have even seen money being wired back by JP Morgan.
Made call to NY number but not so convincing. Auto e-mail does not have very good english. That's worrying. But so far, money is on the dot!!

guys, actually i heard about this investment before,
from my sources, i was told that this program is originally from malaysia.
it have nothing to do with swiss or any swiss mutual funds.
plus the team dreamkaya was also involved in a well planned scam in malaysia.
In malaysia they now have a very bad reputation,
they r also involved with other scam online/offline.
Not all of their member are involved with the scam, they are merely victom of scammers.

so guys,
this is what i've heard, and i believe the info that i get from my sources.
i don't believe in this investment, i think in few months, admin will start giving all kinds of excuses in not paying.

im a malaysian also, i don't believe they are USD300,000 invested in this investment because most malaysian are still investing in conventional investment because of IT boundaries in this country.

I hope you guys don't fall for this scam,
i admitted the website is totally awesome but it doesn't mean this not a scam.
it's a well planned scam.

it's up to u guys to decide, im just sharing my opinion and knoeledge here.
im not trying to sabotage anyone or cause any poblems.

hope this helps, sorrir for any interruptions.

Site layout and design look professional.the fact that bank wires require makes it even look on one hand more serious,but then with bank wires there will be some who are not interested in doing international wires these days,not to Malyasia nor to Cyprus.
I found it interesting that each time i was introduced to this program it came from fellow people from your country which made me believe it is based there as you are indicating in your own post too and i dont consider the ones invested there scammers,some as you say are investing totally out of belief they deal with real program.
I would stay way tho and won't take any chancces with this one mostly due to the fact it involved bank wires i am not interested in doing for start.
Thanks for sharing with us your information .

exactly, not Swiss but stamp swiss all over it. Makes me ill.

lots of "boiler room" share scams are touted through shifty brokers
based in Cyprus. Wouldnt trust anything with a Cypriot connection.

You can register in here for Swiss Cash
Edited: hijack - read forum rules

All the time you work so hard for your money ..
Now it is time for your money to work for you.

SWISS MUTUAL FUND is one of the most popular financial institutions in the world since 1948, based in Commonwealth of Dominica (Carribean Islands).
Swiss Mutual Fund is fully licensed by the Government of Dominica. The Dominican has established a comprehensive regulatory framework. The Central Bank of Dominica and the Securities Commission of Dominica ensure adherence to international standards of performance, service and confidentiality for Banks and Trust, Securities Broker Dealers, and Securities Investment Advisors.

In April 2005, it launched a subsidiary OFFSHORE INVESTMENT POOLING FUND namely SWISSCASH with an attractive INVESTMENT plan of 300% return with a monthly schedule payment for 15 month direct to your account. Your investment is fully guaranteed by SWISS MUTUAL FUND 1948.

Besides your investment with good return,an affiliate SWISSCASH.BIZ business plan offer great opportunity to build your own business towards FINANCIAL FREEDOM....
Edited:hijack - read forum rules

I have been paid for 10% today for swisscash investment. I believed this is a real investment company and those people joined in June 2005 almost got their principal return by now. Hopefully this will be the next big thing. I attached a screen shot of swisscash investor area and proof of 10% return. Check it out. Good Luck.

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Yes ,this is true!!! I also got the full return.....

I second that, just got my return. This one better than ST.

Dear all,
Swisscash is real and it is not like the previous poster who say that it is a scam from malaysia or where so ever. I have met up with the Directors in Asia Pacific region and called up new york to check things out before i invest. Things turn out real well and i am enjoying my returns now.

Like what i was being told and agreed with the Directors when we have the new christmas lunch, if you do not have trust in the investment, dun invest..... you do not need to say it is a scam or what....... just tale things easy as i may not be what you want.

Just my 2 cents of thought and hope everyone can benefit from it

any reason, why all positive response is come from mmg member with less than 50 posts

I think it is quite simple why less people post it here. Swisscash is not a fast money like any other autosurf/HYIP hence attract less people to join. People have already build their mindset to invest in GPT/Autosurf/HYIP/FOREX. Real investment with strong portfolio doesn't attract/interest them.

How many have said this to themselve, enough of scams, enough of delay in payment, withdrawal problem, e-currency charge too high, etc..etc.. is that the right time we should look for real investment and build your financial road? This is the investment I've been looking for ever since I'm with other GPT/HYIP.

Just my 2 cent...

Just want to share something with you guys... from CFO

PROFITS & COMMISSIONS - 2005

1.In 2005, our investors had a total investment of approximately
USD113.2 million. That is a massive 13% increase from our intended
expectations. A big thank you to every individual who worked hard in
promoting the image and financial facility of SwissCash and Swiss
Mutual Fund.

2.We had paid a total of USD19.6 million for SFP Commissions. A
very huge pay out by any Financial Industry for those who are
responsible to promote our businesses.

3.We had paid a total of USD8.4 million for SAP Commissions.

4.USD4.1 million SRP Commissions had been paid.

5.We had paid a total of USD40.6 million SIP Profits.

6.On average, an investor made investments of USD10765 per trading
account.

A total of USD72.7million profits and commissions had been paid out
to our SwissCash investors, financial planners and consultants in
the first 8 months. Such is our successful achievement.

FUND PERFORMANCE - 2005

The global economy especially the equity market has been
outperformed in every market that we are involved in, from Europe to
America to Hong Kong and Japan. I would like you to know that our
entire investors fund had achieved very good returns in every sector
of our investment. All funds are diversified in many sectors such as
the Money Market, Commodities, Equities and many others. Personally
I am very happy to tell you that the Equity Sector has generate very
good performance so far.

BUILDING SWISSCASH - BETTER THAN EVER!

Critics of SwissCash is loud because many industries from Financials
to Networkings and even conventional businesses claims that
SwissCash or even as a matter of fact, Swiss Mutual Fund (1948) is
not a genuine company. I am least concerned about these claims and
unfounded critics. I believe so long as our fund is performing well
and we pay all investors on time, you and I will be the happiest man
on earth.

Our management team had received many emails and phone enquiries and
requests from self proclaimed due diligence companies who want to
know more about our investment strategies. My main duty as CFO and
my teams' main objective is to produce returns for all your
investment, not to entertain these culprits or amateurs.

I am least interested to address those critics and building
SwissCash market personally because from the results and the reports
of my Marketing and Technical Directors in Asia, Europe and Latin
America, I can assure all sincere investors that they are doing a
great job. I believe many of SwissCash Investors are trying to
introduce our financial plan to potential investors who may have not
encounter such profits return thus facing many negative feedbacks
that reaches my attention. The past three decades of experience in
financial planning tells me that Investment is on a Willing Basis.
Some people are natural born non-investors or non-risk takers. Some
are followers, some are laggards when it comes to investment and
even worse, some will NEVER. If you push your way through, you will
find many negative feedbacks that actually demoralizes yourself
while you are enjoying good returns from your investments. You
should be a happy man if not happiest man on earth!

Every investment no matter how great the returns or profits, just
cannot satisfy or cater for everybody. I had met some of my clients
and assured them a return of 300-1000% in 6 months with only 20%
downside but they could not accept it! So, 300% in 15 months will
definitely have some rejections as well. That is part and parcel of
life. Do not push SC Financial Plan to your prospects. Just share
with them but do not expect all to accept the incredible returns
from SwissCash. It's really okay. SwissCash will stay and you do not
have to worry that if your friends do not want to accept this
opportunity, it will be gone next week or next year.

Let me remind you again that SwissCash Management is not desperate
for Investment Fund. We are not in a hurry to attract big amount of
funds to come into SwissCash as SwissCash Fund is attached to Swiss
Mutual Funds' multiple investment portfolios. Small or big amount,
SwissCash Financial Facility will perform well under the proven
mechanism of Swiss Mutual Fund.

Please do not expect to meet myself personally to talk about
SwissCash promotion strategies to attract more investors or how to
help you to build your financial network. I have received much
invitation to come to Asia and Latin America. Trust me; you don't
want me to be there because you need me here to take care of your
investment returns. My team and I is only concerned about producing
great investment returns because you and my financial future depends
on it! Also I am sure the Regional Directors whom the Company had
engaged will be the best candidate for any investors to look upon
and to seek any advises as they are the Best of the Best.


BEYOND 2005

What is in for 2006?

Just to update you on some of the possible great things that is
coming your way…

1. Our Team is studying the feasibility to launch another investment
product beside SIP15300. Awesome isn't it? Well, trust my team and
myself to produce the best investment strategy for you. No promises
however as it could come sometime in the year 2007.

2. We are looking forward to improve on our Customer Service
Management. As SwissCash is a new financial tool in Swiss Mutual
Fund therefore the company is still looking into rooms for
improvement for the public. We do not entertain direct call in from
the public or unidentified source. One of the reasons is because of
the services we are providing are only to our selected corporate
clients. This might look unfriendly from the Investors point of view
and I regret to say that this is our Company Policy. When we kick-
off SwissCash Financial Facility in Swiss Mutual Fund we were not
expecting much problems as this financial tool is so simple to
understand. If you invest, you earn your profits. If you don't then
that is it. Personally I am more interested to improve the
efficiency of our online customer management system rather than tele-
services as we are dealing with tens and possibly hundreds of
thousands of investors who may come from different background or
industries. We would never want to be entangled into unnecessary
conversations or possible confrontations. A written solution is
always better than an oral conversation.

3. We are looking forward to increase the security and user-friendly
mechanisms of our Swiss e-Banking Facility. It is easier said than
done as we have to take into account that majority of our Investors
are still very new to online Trading and Investment modules
especially investors in the Asia. If we implement too many protocols
and other security directories it may result to investors losing
interests even to login or read my monthly news update!


4. Mobile Technology. This is one area that we will have huge
differences and upgrading this year. You can expect our Technical
Team to come out with major mobile solutions that will give you ease
of transactions when accessing your SwissCash Financial Portal.

5. Multiple language website and web applications. We will be
launching our new English Website this January, Chinese in February
and Latin Spanish in March. Other languages will be added from time
to time as our targeted market grows.

CONCLUSION - THE BEST HAS YET TO COME

In conclusion, year 2006 and 2007 is basically a growing year for
SwissCash. Beyond 2007 we could possibly start to go more in-depth
into our financial facilities because SwissCash Funds will reach
Billions of dollars and we are expected to have at least 100,000
global Investors.

I will all of you to look forward to the next few years with full of
confidence and energetic enthusiasm as both SwissCash and Swiss
Mutual Fund will be growing on the right track. You are definitely
putting your financial future with the right team of people. I
assure you all.

I thank you all for a great performance in year 2005. 2006 will be
greater and more exciting. Be part of us and share this great
opportunity with your loved ones.

"It is good if you are the richest among your neighbors, families,
friends and colleagues. But it is even better to have richer
neighbors, families, friends and colleagues."

Michael Mansfield
CFO SwissCash
The Global Financial Facility of Swiss Mutual Fund (1948)


And some payment received from my upline (he's not IT educated, I have to do a screenshot for him)

US$ is convereted to RM (Ringgit Malaysia)

That is a nice piece of info to receive from the CFO.

Google search did not find this company. You would think a company that has been around since 1948 will show up on Google.

There is always room for improvements on both fronts,the company as well as Google..LOL

hehe I love these smilies

what is swiscash-geteway about?

Swisscash, offshore investment from Domican republic.

1st Month to 3rd Month = 10% each month
3th Month to 6th Month = 15% each month
7th Month to 9th Month = 20% each month
10th Month to 12th Month = 25% each month
13th Month to 15th Month = 30% each month

All accumulated is 300% for 15 months
Your ROI is on 7th month. 10% referral fees.

Your funding into swisscash will be used to fund many projects which they get typically
25-45% return every month. They gurantee to pay you the above % every month.
Some of the projects they fund are forex, equity, hyip, dev project and etc...

It's different from any autosurf/hyip you are doing here, it's not Internet base business. You might
question the existing of this company by doing whois, nslookup, calling the company etc.. but
they are not Internet base again, we can't say it's a ponzi.

My 2 cent..

i just join this program... and i have a group of upline helping here.. so i no worry.

hope this program really work.. and current have member ready to join with me edi.. as i knw.. they look real then other surfing or hyip program... coz most of other program hide this n that.. and till last u getting in trouble.

hope i getting in the real program here!!

Geoffrey

Hi there,
As what is being discuss here in the history, this is an investment project from swiss mutual fund which allows general public to attain financial freedom through investment. Pls feel free to post your question if you are in doubts.

You may wish to visit the site for more info. http://www.swisscash.biz/sgong2709801

Thank you and hopefully you can find it useful to you

Hi Gladiator

Sorry please

What did you know about football select gold?

Thank´s a lot

Thats the thing I found out too. Then those ppl usually post on the day they join and after that they go like a wind and never post in here anymore. This maybe my mistake but most of the positive response if from M'sia, I'm sorry if I'm wrong.

I heard they held a seminar in Kuala Lumpur for this week. What I want to know is the seminar held in other countries. It would be a greater help if those investor in this program can come in to this forum and talk more about it to clear any doubts that we have. Hopefully there is non-m'sian to reply since those negative response saying that this program is from m'sia itself.