QUOTE(MahShaYuChen @ Jun 20 2007, 09:54 PM) [snapback]4200566[/snapback]
Dun trust anyone BUT trust her:Serene Chea +65 9487 8070 MSN: serenechea2@hotmail.com. Skype: SereneChea Yahoo: serenechea@yahoo.com icq: 54798126.
she is one of swisscash good lady leader it should fine if u transfer to her and switch over to her network.
Better to shift over to her network then lost in space. Hahahaha.
As for a global biz, there is no fear of any country that will try to tarnish the good name of SwissCash. One thing for sure is the poverty rate in the country will lead people to invest at Offshore Countries. So it a great shame to shun and keep people away from a glimpse of hope to attain financial freedom.
If SwissCash really cares for its investors, then the funds will be refunded to them soon. It seems that the govt does not care about its investors with millions of SC funds stashed at overseas and willing to make people poorer at other people's expense. What do you call such uninvited measures?
Pray harder and hope for the best!
flyersummer
Jun 20 2007, 06:17 AM
good news.. refreshing..
hyipspot
Jun 20 2007, 06:29 AM
QUOTE(sereneche @ Jun 20 2007, 05:09 AM) [snapback]4200454[/snapback]
I will update you all the latest news for Malaysians. Meanwhile just stay calm. We cannot fight politics but wait for it to cool down.
haiz....but its muslim gov, if them say haram....than say this gamble....and i think not easy to aprove from them for tis site..but i will waiting from ur good news..
swisstalk
Jun 20 2007, 06:52 AM
QUOTE(AdvisorySupport @ Jun 20 2007, 10:08 PM) [snapback]4200598[/snapback]
To all my beloved SwissCash(SC) Investors, Do not worry too much as SMF/SC is matured & competent enough to do its best in view of the current situation in the land of the SMART tunnel system. I have done some r & d and I know 100% our MY accounts are still going on as normal except all MY IDs are not enabled at the moment. It is also 100% sure that other countries' IDs, login, SC e-banking, signing up, etc are all working as good as tip-top condition.
Do not listen to rumours here and there. There are people who try to exploit the situation without knowing what SC has delivered for more than 2 years. If one will to read all the SC news updates from year 2005 to 2007, one will naturally salute its quality deliveries including its superd technology that has greatly benefited all investors. I am very sure SC will do its best to provide practical solution to MY and at the same time, I believe SMF/SC does not want to be seen as an "enemy" to any country. SMF has a global corporate image and will continue to implement solutions professionally. Do not forget SMF/SC has appointed marketing director and technical director, one each in every continent. SMF/SC constantly receives feedback from them.
I am not able to share everything here as certain things are sensitive or pre-mature to share. All I can confidently say is that SMF/SC is not interested in scamming. SMF/SC is interested to fulfil its vision & mission as a goal/dream for year 2010. I can safely say, this dream is also the dream of all SC investors. This dream makes this world a better place to live with true financial freedom!
Hi AdvisorySupport
I just do not know where you come out from ? Hehehe.
SwissCash has delivered very outstanding results for the past 2 years and it is still around despite the many govt authorities such as USA, MY and others are probing their operations.
For an offshore company with IBC, it can operate on an international basis through borderless internet medium. To suppress its operation in a foolish way only get its people to suffer great financial losses at a faster rate. This mindless measure is strongly condemned in the highest term. It's fear of failure to provide adequate profits and returns for its investors and block the e-trading and pass whatever laws that prohibit Offshore Investment. But look at its huge Genting Casino in the country that generate millions of revenue for the govt treasury. If offshore investment's returns is haram, then revenue from casino is haram too? What a double standard govt to block the citizens to invest at offshore through internet.
It is an indication that the laws makers are computer illiterates and never understand the virtual world of stock trading beyond the 21st century. Shame on those law makers and those with many holes in their heads.
Let its govt assess the financial losses of its people before making this mindless measure to strip the people's of their wealth and freedom of offshore investments.
Shame on its govt. Shameful to see this provoking action. Once again let the whole world know that "if there is a will, there is a way". Do not be disappointed. Look for other means of survive, it is not the end yet.
Cheers!
QUOTE(molder @ Jun 19 2007, 05:31 PM) [snapback]4197001[/snapback]
For those who wants to get spills over by my network. You will be greatly benefited.
Hi I am from Singapore network too. Just join SC powerful leg and you will get spilling over from those in the active uplines. If you are a Malaysian in the country, then forget it. If residing overseas, use the country code of the country you are residing and it is okay to join.
Cheers!
MahShaYuChen
Jun 20 2007, 06:54 AM
QUOTE(hyipspot @ Jun 20 2007, 06:29 AM) [snapback]4200658[/snapback]
haiz....but its muslim gov, if them say haram....than say this gamble....and i think not easy to aprove from them for tis site..but i will waiting from ur good news..
bro dasss swisscash is a global bizz ,Pls Think "GLOBALLY"
pokpok
Jun 20 2007, 07:54 AM
Quote"I believe SMF/SC does not want to be seen as an "enemy" to any country. SMF/SC is interested to fulfil its vision & mission as a goal/dream for year 2010. I can safely say, this dream is also the dream of all SC investors. This dream will definitely make this world a better place to live with true financial freedom! [/quote] Serene Chia mentioned we cannot fight politics, it means MY will not lift the ban. The ban was imposed firstly because 1st Swisscash being suspected of scaming MY investors and secondy to preserve economic harmony. This i think is what MY govt. is afraid of and further more wealth is power and power can manipulate politics. MY govt. wants to control , which people should have wealth.
True financial freedom should never consider politics, because govts. consider people with wealth are people with power.
Swisscash and SMF dreams is not only about money but it is also about freedom on our part to determine how wealty we can be and not be control by govt.
xun
Jun 20 2007, 08:03 AM
Latest News... Brunei investors also can't login SwissCash account too. They bLOCK Brunei ACCOUNTS !!
SNOW66
Jun 20 2007, 08:11 AM
QUOTE(xun @ Jun 20 2007, 08:03 AM) [snapback]4200946[/snapback]
Latest News... Brunei investors also can't login SwissCash account too. They bLOCK Brunei ACCOUNTS !!
Oh No, really!
Is late now, will check with Brunei investor tomorrow
Thank xun
AdvisorySupport
Jun 20 2007, 08:17 AM
QUOTE(pokpok @ Jun 20 2007, 07:20 PM) [snapback]4200205[/snapback]
QUOTE(sereneche @ Jun 20 2007, 01:52 AM)
Members from MY, please be patient. This will not be the end for MY. Swiss Cash is going to do something. Most of the current situation is just temporary. From Serene Chea.
Serene Chea , your confidence in the swisscash management is admirable. If you have connection with the top management, please relay our concern (MY investor ). Sometimes just words of assurance from the CFO Swiscash is enough even when we being denied access. The problem is that swiss management does not give us MY investors enough assurance for us to be patient. Thank you for your advice, please keep us posted with the latest news, priority, the good ones for MY investors. From pokpok.
Good News! I just got it from the very top leadership in SC. The Good News is that the problem of accessing and logging into the website in the land of the SMART tunnel system shall be expected to end in one or two weeks time if there is no delay. Please do not ask me where is the exact source of this information. Let us all keep our faith strong, stay united and stay tuned for the best!
digger71
Jun 20 2007, 08:42 AM
QUOTE(sadsadmalaysian @ Jun 19 2007, 07:47 PM) [snapback]4199346[/snapback]
i have heard some news..they will block the account for two months
4 wht reason , delaying the acf payment to october is already painful..after this..what else ?
QUOTE(mka3769 @ Jun 19 2007, 10:45 PM) [snapback]4199686[/snapback]
Swisscash is disappointing all its Malaysian Investors at this very moment.
I cant agree with u more , it hurts a lot
QUOTE(paparaaaapa @ Jun 19 2007, 11:00 PM) [snapback]4199714[/snapback]
but malaysia disappointing Swisscash...what to do?
Its malaysian government who did it , not malaysian inverstorS But we have 2 pay the price , its not fair at all
QUOTE(pokpok @ Jun 20 2007, 01:07 AM) [snapback]4199945[/snapback]
I agree with you.We MY investors should be refunded at the present value of ACF. What type of investor are we, if we have being denied access to our account, we can't control our investment. We have to follow what swisscash plan for us?. Are we babies that do not know what is best for us, this also goes with MY govt. Have anybody heard the proverb' Customer is always right' .It should not be the other way around.Just grant access to our account. Its our own money that is invested , not SMF. So please SWISS MUTUAL FUND and SWISSCASH, set your priority in a right place.Anyway I believe SMF and swisscash have a vision that is futuristic and practical. Like it or not future business will be similar like this. It would be a waste anyway if this vision , technology is not integrated with feelings of compassion and mutual trust.
Yup agree with this 1 2. If they cant pay us , y dont give us back our capital, everybody will happy. Y dont they do this
QUOTE(xun @ Jun 20 2007, 08:03 AM) [snapback]4200946[/snapback]
Latest News... Brunei investors also can't login SwissCash account too. They bLOCK Brunei ACCOUNTS !!
QUOTE(AdvisorySupport @ Jun 20 2007, 08:17 AM) [snapback]4200988[/snapback]
Serene Chea , your confidence in the swisscash management is admirable. If you have connection with the top management, please relay our concern (MY investor ). Sometimes just words of assurance from the CFO Swiscash is enough even when we being denied access. The problem is that swiss management does not give us MY investors enough assurance for us to be patient. Thank you for your advice, please keep us posted with the latest news, priority, the good ones for MY investors. From pokpok. Good News! I just got it from the very top leadership in SC. The Good News is that the problem of accessing and logging into the website in the land of the SMART tunnel system shall be expected to end in one or two weeks time if there is no delay. Please do not ask me where is the exact source of this information. Let us all keep our faith strong, stay united and stay tuned for the best!
i bet u r malaysian , rite ? So y now brunei investors also cannot xcess the scash site, didnt it weird ?
st3v3n
Jun 20 2007, 08:44 AM
QUOTE(AdvisorySupport @ Jun 20 2007, 11:17 PM) [snapback]4200988[/snapback]
Serene Chea , your confidence in the swisscash management is admirable. If you have connection with the top management, please relay our concern (MY investor ). Sometimes just words of assurance from the CFO Swiscash is enough even when we being denied access. The problem is that swiss management does not give us MY investors enough assurance for us to be patient. Thank you for your advice, please keep us posted with the latest news, priority, the good ones for MY investors. From pokpok. Good News! I just got it from the very top leadership in SC. The Good News is that the problem of accessing and logging into the website in the land of the SMART tunnel system shall be expected to end in one or two weeks time if there is no delay. Please do not ask me where is the exact source of this information. Let us all keep our faith strong, stay united and stay tuned for the best!
THEY ABSOLUTELY SCAM...SCAMMMM...
U CAN PROVE IT
ZHONG
Jun 20 2007, 08:47 AM
QUOTE(AdvisorySupport @ Jun 21 2007, 12:17 AM) [snapback]4200988[/snapback]
Serene Chea , your confidence in the swisscash management is admirable. If you have connection with the top management, please relay our concern (MY investor ). Sometimes just words of assurance from the CFO Swiscash is enough even when we being denied access. The problem is that swiss management does not give us MY investors enough assurance for us to be patient. Thank you for your advice, please keep us posted with the latest news, priority, the good ones for MY investors. From pokpok. Good News! I just got it from the very top leadership in SC. The Good News is that the problem of accessing and logging into the website in the land of the SMART tunnel system shall be expected to end in one or two weeks time if there is no delay. Please do not ask me where is the exact source of this information. Let us all keep our faith strong, stay united and stay tuned for the best!
Nice to hear that, this is really a good news. MY government has no reason to block SMF/SC which is neither good for country nor for the citizen. Patient is the only solution for the time being, I truly believe SMF/SC is a genuine investment company and definetely will come up a solution that doesn't hurt government as well as investor. Cheers.
digger71
Jun 20 2007, 08:48 AM
QUOTE(st3v3n @ Jun 20 2007, 08:44 AM) [snapback]4201063[/snapback]
THEY ABSOLUTELY SCAM...SCAMMMM...
U CAN PROVE IT
I think scash is dying ..slowly..but surely Thats y their policies is very sucks and bunch of crap now
AdvisorySupport
Jun 20 2007, 09:00 AM
QUOTE(xun @ Jun 21 2007, 12:03 AM) [snapback]4200946[/snapback]
Latest News ... Brunei investors also can't login SwissCash account too. They BLOCK Brunei ACCOUNTS!!!
I have expected some other countries may follow the action by the Malaysian authorities. I am not surprised if really the account is blocked. Here, I am not sure whether Brunei has blocked the website or SC has temporarily disabled the login. Whatever it may be, we are more keen to login SC account. For blocked website, there is a way to bypass the blocked gateway. Maybe in time to come, we may need to write a petition to the authority with the help of MPs to create better understanding & awareness of genuine online offshore investments without undermining the govt. SC is not interested in scamming. If they want to scam, SC would have done it long time ago. Why wait for more than 2 years? I am not in Brunei and do not know the exact situation. I don't think SC loves to block our account login. If it is blocked, it is definitely for some reason in order to give SC, time to settle some pending issues like internet account security among other things.
digger71
Jun 20 2007, 09:04 AM
QUOTE(AdvisorySupport @ Jun 20 2007, 09:00 AM) [snapback]4201126[/snapback]
I have expected some other countries may follow the action by the Malaysian authorities. I am not surprised if really the account is blocked. Here, I am not sure whether Brunei has blocked the website or SC has temporarily disabled the login. Whatever it may be, we are more keen to login into SC account. For blocked website, there is a way to pass by the blocked gateway. Maybe in time to come, we may need to write a petition to the authority with the help of MPs to create better understanding & awareness of genuine online offshore investments without undermining the govt.
The real issue here ..is..its not malaysian sc who block the xcess to scash website Its scash policy maker and their crew who did this..any solution ?
jannycole
Jun 20 2007, 09:10 AM
wah u guys are really strong supporters! i hope swisscash will appreciate all your trust and faith...
actually i have never since saw such strong faith in something during difficult times....besides religion...even for religion..sometimes people question God or the supreme being during difficult times...
digger71
Jun 20 2007, 09:20 AM
QUOTE(jannycole @ Jun 20 2007, 09:10 AM) [snapback]4201147[/snapback]
wah u guys are really strong supporters! i hope swisscash will appreciate all your trust and faith...
actually i have never since saw such strong faith in something during difficult times....besides religion...even for religion..sometimes people question God or the supreme being during difficult times...
Trust me..scash wil not even bother what u think , hope or pray..they will gone slowly and nothind u can do abt it
NthDimensions
Jun 20 2007, 10:00 AM
QUOTE(gunungman @ May 5 2007, 01:35 PM) [snapback]4056153[/snapback]
yeh.. anyone try OMT...from the 3 BC. please update.
my account from Singapore
withdrawal 500USD 8 Apr requested. 9 Apr approved. 740SGD received on 13 Apr
withdrawal 500USD 25 Apr requested. 28 Apr approved. 740SGD received on 3 May
withdrawal 2,000USD 6 May requested. 9 May approved. 3,000SGD received on 16 May
withdrawal 3,000USD 17 May requested. 21 May approved. 4,550SGD received on 25 May
withdrawal 1,000USD 4 Jun requested. 7 Jun approved. 1,500SGD received on 12 Jun
withdrawal 900USD 6 Jun requested. 11 Jun approved. 1,350SGD received on 15 Jun
withdrawal 3,000USD 15 Jun requested. 20 Jun approved. now waiting for the cash to come in....
so far so good... and I intend to keep withdrawing.... if suddenly the money runs dry.... I will be the first to know of it...
sereneche
Jun 20 2007, 10:04 AM
QUOTE(NthDimensions @ Jun 20 2007, 10:00 AM) [snapback]4201277[/snapback]
my account from Singapore
withdrawal 500USD 8 Apr requested. 9 Apr approved. 740SGD received on 13 Apr
withdrawal 500USD 25 Apr requested. 28 Apr approved. 740SGD received on 3 May
withdrawal 2,000USD 6 May requested. 9 May approved. 3,000SGD received on 16 May
withdrawal 3,000USD 17 May requested. 21 May approved. 4,550SGD received on 25 May
withdrawal 1,000USD 4 Jun requested. 7 Jun approved. 1,500SGD received on 12 Jun
withdrawal 900USD 6 Jun requested. 11 Jun approved. 1,350SGD received on 15 Jun
withdrawal 3,000USD 15 Jun requested. 20 Jun approved. now waiting for the cash to come in.... so far so good... and I intend to keep withdrawing.... if suddenly the money runs dry.... I will be the first to know of it...
Cheers NthDimensions,
Swiss Cash is doing good.. just some issues on access problem in Malaysia. Looking at the situation. should be ok very soon for MY..
NthDimensions
Jun 20 2007, 10:20 AM
QUOTE(zoid @ May 9 2007, 05:56 AM) [snapback]4070950[/snapback]
There are no offshore/online investment program that could offer such high returns in short time.25% return is considered high if you compared with your local investment with your own FOREX trading,real estate,local bank investment,etc
A "high yield investment program" that you desired most likely to be a scam.Too long to wait?No one can get rich in short time.After four months,you just sit at home and let money deposited into your bank account.Let say you invested US1000,you get US250 every month,wow you can buy Ipod or mobile phone every month or reinvest back.
eh........... so far I got a car. but I got no driving license. so now the car parked in my company carpark.... (long story) and recently got myself a nice VAIO laptop, 2.1kg, 2GB ram ..... thanks to you-know-what program
QUOTE(zoid @ May 10 2007, 08:53 PM) [snapback]4076893[/snapback]
Congratulations!This topic has reached 600 pages and yet no more whiny,trollers ******** about Swisscash.Good thing
Updated my site to blog type which i prefer dynamic content site.Tell me what do you think
In case some of you are wondering.... I am using Opera browser, and I keep a tag on MMG. Since I'm back.... after a while .... I am reading back 100% of what I missed....
zoid... nice site.... just 1 thing. my honest personal opinion: I prefer that some of the SC announcement be edited before they are posted to any blogs... or just give a brief overview on what the announcement is about, but try not to post the announcement unedited.
the reason is this: too many scammers have used the announcements to embed a link to bogus 'id verification' sites, posing as SC admin.
for our own sake and the safety of the majority of investors, we should try best not to disclose contents of the SC website to non-investors
imho
digger71
Jun 20 2007, 10:31 AM
QUOTE(sereneche @ Jun 20 2007, 10:04 AM) [snapback]4201290[/snapback]
Cheers NthDimensions,
Swiss Cash is doing good.. just some issues on access problem in Malaysia. Looking at the situation. should be ok very soon for MY..
Its not just malaysia now, but includes brunei Who knows what will hapeen tomorrow and the day after...and so on Any comment ?
NthDimensions
Jun 20 2007, 10:41 AM
QUOTE(paparaaaapa @ May 18 2007, 07:18 PM) [snapback]4106719[/snapback]
I am travelling to HK,Macau and China~
paparaaaapa, you got any of your Macau ppl OMT to their account? I am trying to imagine a guy going into a Macau bank and doing cash deposit... Macau has such a small population, maybe that guy is from HK, is that guy you?
AdvisorySupport
Jun 20 2007, 11:14 AM
Good News 21st June 2007 at 3 am (Malaysian Time) EMF Buy 1.58 Sell 1.55 ACF Buy 1.52 Sell 1.50
Good News From the earlier post right at the top by NthDimensions of Singapore, we can see that SC is paying until now with all the requests for OMT to his bank account. This proves SC is still doing fine. The problem in Malaysia and maybe Brunei does not make SC a scam because there is no concrete proof. SC may need to sort out first, some pending issues as stated in its latest news update. Those who want more assurance can study the good track record of SC performance since April 2005.
NthDimensions
Jun 20 2007, 11:35 AM
QUOTE(geo_seven @ Jun 1 2007, 10:05 AM) [snapback]4148486[/snapback]
By the way.. any 1 have any idea how to access swisscash website if local gov. is blocking after this? pls share the idea.. thanks
better to share this kind of info investor to investor, not on public.... so many eyes here.... perhaps the M'sian govt is reading this forum.....
QUOTE(MahShaYuChen @ Jun 1 2007, 06:05 PM) [snapback]4149492[/snapback]
,i understand ur feeling fren but the matter of fact is there are Too many SCAM investment site that is set-up or manipulate by local malaysian ppls. The SC malaysia have the right to close down the local malaysia investment scam because this will cost unstoppable country social problem and also it not good for the local bank system and economic as i personally supoort them. As for the offshore investment program outside malaysia like swisscash ,there should iether to provide proof to stop us for using it.... But the fact is althrought swisscash can proof itself is not scam or either the malaysia SC already know that swisscash is a true offshore investment program, the malaysia SC will still insist of stop this type of ture offshore investment oppoturnities. There many reason for malaysia SC to do that,ONE OF THE MAJOR REASON IS BECOS THIS TYPE OF SWISSCASH OFFSHORE INVESTMENT FUND IS NOT REGISTER UNDER THE MALAYSIA SC LICSEN OR LAW SO THAT THE CANNOT CONTROL OR MANIPULATE THEIR HUGE PROFIT MARGIN. IN OTHER WAY THE MALAYSIA GOVT CANNOT "TAXE" THIS TYPE OF OFFSHORE INVESTMENT FINANCIAL INSTITUTION HEAVEYLY.
I think you are right, it's about CONTROL, not about legitimacy.
But this is one of those things, along with other suka suka change-change legislations, plus the memory of the ringgit off-float during the Asian Economic Crisis, that will scare/confirm/verify potential investors, that Malaysia is a fickle country to invest in.
no offense, fellow M'sian bros. I think you know I am speaking what you already know.
NthDimensions
Jun 20 2007, 12:00 PM
QUOTE(Fredriksen @ Jun 3 2007, 10:13 AM) [snapback]4154015[/snapback]
I would disagree with Swis$988. Your upline does matter. You should have an upline that is knowledgeable and can explain things that might be unclear. Your should also have easy access to epoints from your upline so you can increase your own investment to any size you want and also so you can accomodate larger investors that want to sign up under you. Above all you upline must be someone you feel you can trust. To me good uplines have made all the difference and have given me the confidence to have a large SwissCash investment that I am shortly going to double by investing more capital.
absolutely right, your choice of upline will determine whether u will become a lost sheep in times of adversity, or whether you will sail through the storm unscathed.
that's why there are ppl hurt by their upline, in famous stories told by j*j*bl*nk
NthDimensions
Jun 20 2007, 12:56 PM
QUOTE(bAnGGG0891 @ Jun 14 2007, 09:02 AM) [snapback]4183598[/snapback]
Hi all, I'm a newbie here & from Msia but thought of sharing some information with all Malaysian swisscash investors. This is what i heard from my upline:-
Msia govt has even gone to the extent of contacting SMF/SC to block malaysian trading ID but whether SC is agreeable or not, we don't know yet.
My upline did a OMT on the 5th of May 07 and he has already received the money in his local bank account. Therefore, it is not really possible for the govt or BNM to block incoming TT as SC is using third party payment and it is tough to trace where the payment is coming from.
Cheers!
How is M'sia govt able to contact SMF/SC if they think SMF/SC is scam? This is not logical. If they are able to contact SMF/SC directly, that verifies SMF/SC's existence as legit, if not, then, the M'sia govt will need to know how to contact the head SwissCash scammer. Either way, if M'sia govt is able to do that, then they know much more than what we know.
SwissCash OMT is via dealer, ie, some person will run to your local bank/ATM and do a cash deposit. No way to block this, and untraceable. Only if that country has no dealer, then I guess SwissCash will use a 3rd party remittance company via some dealer, or if everything else does not work, they will then use a 3rd party company to do the bank-to-bank TT. Whichever what way, I don't think SwissCash will show up in any of the bank statements. If unable to trace to SwissCash, how to block incoming money into your bank account? Unless the M'sian govt freezes your bank acct..... ...... but they can't do that unless they can prove your launder money...... ....... but then again.... I guess anything can happen with the M'sian govt.....
Venomlugz
Jun 20 2007, 01:08 PM
QUOTE(NthDimensions @ Jun 20 2007, 11:00 AM) [snapback]4201277[/snapback]
my account from Singapore
withdrawal 500USD 8 Apr requested. 9 Apr approved. 740SGD received on 13 Apr
withdrawal 500USD 25 Apr requested. 28 Apr approved. 740SGD received on 3 May
withdrawal 2,000USD 6 May requested. 9 May approved. 3,000SGD received on 16 May
withdrawal 3,000USD 17 May requested. 21 May approved. 4,550SGD received on 25 May
withdrawal 1,000USD 4 Jun requested. 7 Jun approved. 1,500SGD received on 12 Jun
withdrawal 900USD 6 Jun requested. 11 Jun approved. 1,350SGD received on 15 Jun
withdrawal 3,000USD 15 Jun requested. 20 Jun approved. now waiting for the cash to come in.... so far so good... and I intend to keep withdrawing.... if suddenly the money runs dry.... I will be the first to know of it...
Good new!!!!
NthDimensions
Jun 20 2007, 01:47 PM
QUOTE(MMC @ Jun 16 2007, 11:39 AM) [snapback]4188535[/snapback]
well, on the brighter side, it survive quite a number of ordeals.. now it's down, nothing surprising as it's always a cycle, old programs went down, causing some people to lose out, new, potential programs arises causing people to earn profit..
it's not down... yet statement is pre-mature.
QUOTE(BeeTee @ Jun 16 2007, 01:46 PM) [snapback]4188732[/snapback]
Swisscash blocks all Malaysian investors with initial MY... for what reasons....? already stated on previous pages....
I think... out of all the clutter and confusion... these are the (known) facts: 1) M'sian govt blocking 'undesirable' sites, including www.swisscash.net 2) The rest of the world is not blocking swisscash 3) SwissCash is not accepting new M'sian investors, or new funds from existing M'sian investors 4) SwissCash is allowing the rest of the world's investors to continue as per normal (... so far...)
all of the confusion on M'sian investor's side is an interplay between 1) and 3)
M'sia investors should have their account's SIP, SRP as per normal (I think) for SIP25 investments. Those M'sia investors who did not invest into SIP25, and have their SIP15300 investments locked into ACF until Oct.... now also no more chance to invest into SIP25. Just have to wait for Oct.
cheers!
QUOTE(AdvisorySupport @ Jun 16 2007, 10:00 PM) [snapback]4189482[/snapback]
Licenses & Regulators / History of Swiss Mutual Fund / SwissCash Swiss Mutual Fund is fully licensed by the Government of Dominica. The Dominican has established a comprehensive regulatory framework that includes five regulators and supervisors. The Central Bank of Dominica and the Securities Commission of Dominica ensure adherence to international standards of performance, service and confidentiality for Banks and Trust, Securities Broker Dealers, and Securities Investment Advisors.
If SMF is not licensed, it won't be able to open its corporate bank account in 15 reputable banks in China, 5 of which are owned by the government of China. In fact, SMF has a reputable global image but because of too many internet scams, it has to a certain extent make it difficult for the general public to differentiate the good from the bad, let alone our due diligence to verify any company backoffice, popular known as virtual office which to some is like an invisible office.
SMF claims to have established in 1948 and is now coming close to 60 years of history. They have very big investment portfolio around the world. SwissCash which is a sector of SMF, was first launched on 1st April 2005. SwissCash is just a small portion of their total fund diversification. Even without the fund from SwissCash, SMF can still survive. In conclusion, SMF does not need to scam the fund from SwissCash investors as this could really jeopardise their long history of truth, trust, honour and reputation. Don't just listen to what I said. If you need more facts & figures, kindly explore its corporate financial portal, swissmutualfund.biz
the part where the China gateway was set up, is the impressive part. to do that, someone has to negotiate with China officials.
this is the part where I swing more towards "SwissCash may be legitimate", if it is a scam, it is a damn fantastic scam
NthDimensions
Jun 20 2007, 02:49 PM
QUOTE(digger71 @ Jun 19 2007, 08:48 AM) [snapback]4196104[/snapback]
The problem here bro is they i mean scash dont want to pay or refund the money, the msg is loud and clear Scash is totally scam now bcoz they give lame excuses and that is true Scash cannot fix the problem because they are the real problem maker Using mesian government is just a lame excuse 4 them
digger71: 1) new account, 12 posts 2) all posts are replies to SwissCash related 3) 99% of posts has only one central message: "I think SwissCash is scam, it has shown its true colours" 4) one post claiming being SwissCash investor from M'sia and asking for more info
draw your own conclusions, folks!
QUOTE(jimmyykm @ Jun 19 2007, 10:16 PM) [snapback]4197692[/snapback]
lol, looks like the longest running Malaysian-ponzi scam is finally over.
Nice one Swisscash
Now i know there will be alot of people who will be flaming me, so lets hear it
premature. at this current rate, at least it can last until Oct... and if Xun says ACF can only sell 50%.... then maybe it still can drag on til Christmas....
QUOTE(Mike QC @ Jun 20 2007, 12:23 PM) [snapback]4199411[/snapback]
So Swisscash, SMFund (Swiss MutualFund) and Francswiss are just one the same group right? The update now is that it has finally stop paying Malaysian Investors. So this will probably have a negative effect on the others like Francswiss which only made its debut in the Philippines. This must be the beginning of the end.
better check your facts, your so called updates are false.
QUOTE(paparaaaapa @ Jun 20 2007, 03:00 PM) [snapback]4199714[/snapback]
but malaysia disappointing Swisscash...what to do?
true. alot of ppl got to do a lot of soul searching, even my M'sian colleague said, "I don't know why, when it comes to money, M'sians seem so desperate for a fast buck.... scams lah, MLMs lah, pyramid scheme lah, all kinds of weird stuff."
QUOTE(hanzahar @ Jun 20 2007, 07:23 PM) [snapback]4200211[/snapback]
one way what MY investor to do is to find out how to access to their account - i know some MY have access to their account but not sure how
then if you have frends @ SG or Thai
transfer your epoints to them for withdrawal
well that is if you trust them
I believe if M'sian investors can access their acct, they can do epoint OMT, 1) if they have any epoint, 2) if epoint is more than 500, no need for such troublesome method.
now the problem is unable to login, is it not?
QUOTE(sereneche @ Jun 20 2007, 09:09 PM) [snapback]4200454[/snapback]
I will update you all the latest news for Malaysians. Meanwhile just stay calm. We cannot fight politics but wait for it to cool down.
I thought some M'sian influential datuk is SCash investor? Maybe he can help with his influence....
QUOTE(sensis @ Jun 20 2007, 09:46 PM) [snapback]4200546[/snapback]
I have 600 epoint to withdraw this month. I can transfer to other member's account but who should I trust?
why u need to do that? you can do your own OMT
QUOTE(hyipspot @ Jun 20 2007, 10:29 PM) [snapback]4200658[/snapback]
haiz....but its muslim gov, if them say haram....than say this gamble....and i think not easy to aprove from them for tis site..but i will waiting from ur good news..
oh yeah...SCash is pronounced haram by clerics
star2005
Jun 20 2007, 02:55 PM
I'm very old online investor, I earned a lot and lost alot of money... to be hones both of:
swisscash.com and
EgoldFx.com
are great, honest, and reliable projects. I'm investing now in both of them and got paid many times on time.
NthDimensions
Jun 20 2007, 03:10 PM
EMF: Date Buy Price Sell Price 19 Jun 2007 1.55 1.52 18 Jun 2007 1.50 1.47 17 Jun 2007 1.48 1.45 16 Jun 2007 1.48 1.45 15 Jun 2007 1.48 1.45 14 Jun 2007 1.45 1.43 13 Jun 2007 1.46 1.44 12 Jun 2007 1.44 1.42 11 Jun 2007 1.43 1.40 10 Jun 2007 1.40 1.37 09 Jun 2007 1.40 1.37 08 Jun 2007 1.40 1.37 07 Jun 2007 1.37 1.34 06 Jun 2007 1.35 1.33 05 Jun 2007 1.33 1.31 04 Jun 2007 1.32 1.30 03 Jun 2007 1.31 1.29 02 Jun 2007 1.31 1.28 01 Jun 2007 1.31 1.29 31 May 2007 1.30 1.28 30 May 2007 1.27 1.25 29 May 2007 1.26 1.23 28 May 2007 1.23 1.21 27 May 2007 1.21 1.19 26 May 2007 1.21 1.19 25 May 2007 1.21 1.19 24 May 2007 1.20 1.18 23 May 2007 1.19 1.17 22 May 2007 1.17 1.15 21 May 2007 1.15 1.13 20 May 2007 1.12 1.10 19 May 2007 1.12 1.10 18 May 2007 1.12 1.10 17 May 2007 1.11 1.09 16 May 2007 1.09 1.07 15 May 2007 1.07 1.05 14 May 2007 1.05 1.03 13 May 2007 1.03 1.01 12 May 2007 1.03 1.01 11 May 2007 1.03 1.01 10 May 2007 1.02 1.00 09 May 2007 1.00 1.00 08 May 2007 1.00 1.00 07 May 2007 1.00 1.00 06 May 2007 1.00 1.00 05 May 2007 1.00 1.00 04 May 2007 1.00 1.00 03 May 2007 Bonus Issue - 1 to 4 1.00 1.00
ACF: Date Buy Price Sell Price 19 Jun 2007 1.51 1.49 18 Jun 2007 1.50 1.48 17 Jun 2007 1.48 1.46 16 Jun 2007 1.48 1.46 15 Jun 2007 1.48 1.46 14 Jun 2007 1.49 1.47 13 Jun 2007 1.47 1.45 12 Jun 2007 1.45 1.43 11 Jun 2007 1.44 1.42 10 Jun 2007 1.43 1.41 09 Jun 2007 1.43 1.41 08 Jun 2007 1.43 1.41 07 Jun 2007 1.41 1.39 06 Jun 2007 1.40 1.38 05 Jun 2007 1.39 1.37 04 Jun 2007 1.37 1.35 03 Jun 2007 1.36 1.34 02 Jun 2007 1.36 1.34 01 Jun 2007 1.36 1.34 31 May 2007 1.38 1.36 30 May 2007 1.33 1.31 29 May 2007 1.32 1.30 28 May 2007 1.30 1.28 27 May 2007 1.32 1.30 26 May 2007 1.32 1.30 25 May 2007 1.32 1.30 24 May 2007 1.30 1.28 23 May 2007 1.29 1.27 22 May 2007 1.28 1.26 21 May 2007 1.27 1.25 20 May 2007 1.26 1.24 19 May 2007 1.26 1.24 18 May 2007 1.26 1.24 17 May 2007 1.25 1.23 16 May 2007 1.24 1.22 15 May 2007 1.25 1.23 14 May 2007 1.26 1.24 13 May 2007 1.25 1.23 12 May 2007 1.25 1.23 11 May 2007 1.25 1.23 10 May 2007 1.23 1.21 09 May 2007 1.23 1.21 08 May 2007 1.21 1.19 07 May 2007 1.21 1.19 06 May 2007 1.20 1.18 05 May 2007 1.20 1.18 04 May 2007 1.20 1.18 03 May 2007 1.18 1.16 02 May 2007 1.17 1.15 01 May 2007 1.16 1.14 30 Apr 2007 1.16 1.14 29 Apr 2007 1.15 1.13 28 Apr 2007 1.15 1.13 27 Apr 2007 1.15 1.13 26 Apr 2007 1.13 1.11 25 Apr 2007 1.12 1.10 24 Apr 2007 1.12 1.10 23 Apr 2007 1.10 1.08 22 Apr 2007 1.09 1.07 21 Apr 2007 1.09 1.07 20 Apr 2007 1.09 1.07 19 Apr 2007 1.07 1.05 18 Apr 2007 1.08 1.06 17 Apr 2007 1.08 1.06 16 Apr 2007 1.06 1.04 15 Apr 2007 1.04 1.02 14 Apr 2007 1.04 1.02 13 Apr 2007 1.04 1.01 12 Apr 2007 1.03 1.01 11 Apr 2007 1.02 1.00 10 Apr 2007 1.01 0.99 09 Apr 2007 1.00 1.00 08 Apr 2007 1.00 1.00 07 Apr 2007 1.00 1.00 06 Apr 2007 1.00 1.00 05 Apr 2007 1.00 1.00 04 Apr 2007 1.00 1.00 03 Apr 2007 1.00 1.00 02 Apr 2007 1.00 1.00 01 Apr 2007 1.00 1.00
hanzahar
Jun 20 2007, 03:25 PM
QUOTE(AdvisorySupport @ Jun 20 2007, 10:08 PM) [snapback]4200598[/snapback]
To all my beloved SwissCash(SC) Investors, Do not worry too much as SMF/SC is matured & competent enough to do its best in view of the current situation in the land of the SMART tunnel system. I have done some r & d and I know 100% our MY accounts are still going on as normal except all MY IDs are not enabled at the moment. It is also 100% sure that other countries' IDs, login, SC e-banking, signing up, etc are all working as good as tip-top condition.
Do not listen to rumours here and there. There are people who try to exploit the situation without knowing what SC has delivered for more than 2 years. If one will to read all the SC news updates from year 2005 to 2007, one will naturally salute its quality deliveries including its superd technology that has greatly benefited all investors. I am very sure SC will do its best to provide practical solution to MY and at the same time, I believe SMF/SC does not want to be seen as an "enemy" to any country. SMF has a global corporate image and will continue to implement solutions professionally. Do not forget SMF/SC has appointed marketing director and technical director, one each in every continent. SMF/SC constantly receives feedback from them.
I am not able to share everything here as certain things are sensitive or pre-mature to share. All I can confidently say is that SMF/SC is not interested in scamming. SMF/SC is interested to fulfil its vision & mission as a goal/dream for year 2010. I can safely say, this dream is also the dream of all SC investors. This dream will definitely make this world a better place to live with true financial freedom!
ahh nice to hear that what happen after 2010?
hanzahar
Jun 20 2007, 03:49 PM
QUOTE(digger71 @ Jun 21 2007, 02:31 AM) [snapback]4201339[/snapback]
Its not just malaysia now, but includes brunei Who knows what will hapeen tomorrow and the day after...and so on Any comment ?
u preeeeeeeeeeeeety sure?
i try to check with my upline
anyway does SC appoint any dealer in SG?
NthDimensions
Jun 20 2007, 04:21 PM
QUOTE(hanzahar @ Jun 21 2007, 07:25 AM) [snapback]4201805[/snapback]
ahh nice to hear that what happen after 2010?
what may be more important is what happens in 2012. google 'polar shift' 'mayan calendar'
do what you can do, love who you want to love, before 2012.
arm2007
Jun 20 2007, 06:20 PM
QUOTE(digger71 @ Jun 20 2007, 09:04 AM) [snapback]4201137[/snapback]
The real issue here ..is..its not malaysian sc who block the xcess to scash website Its scash policy maker and their crew who did this..any solution ?
Hello Digger you realy sucks, get lost and just do your programs and good luck to you.
QUOTE(digger71 @ Jun 20 2007, 09:04 AM) [snapback]4201137[/snapback]
The real issue here ..is..its not malaysian sc who block the xcess to scash website Its scash policy maker and their crew who did this..any solution ?
hello digger do not make to much guesswork and conjectures, you are too emotional and jealous with us and SMF/SC because they survive longer than your programs i guess. May i knw how many HYIPS you have been scammed. So make assumption all are scams k.
Just watch dun bug too much, we have problems to be solved...
BeeTee
Jun 20 2007, 06:26 PM
QUOTE(NthDimensions @ Jun 21 2007, 05:47 AM) [snapback]4201670[/snapback]
it's not down... yet statement is pre-mature. I think... out of all the clutter and confusion... these are the (known) facts: 1) M'sian govt blocking 'undesirable' sites, including www.swisscash.net 2) The rest of the world is not blocking swisscash 3) SwissCash is not accepting new M'sian investors, or new funds from existing M'sian investors 4) SwissCash is allowing the rest of the world's investors to continue as per normal (... so far...)
all of the confusion on M'sian investor's side is an interplay between 1) and 3)
M'sia investors should have their account's SIP, SRP as per normal (I think) for SIP25 investments. Those M'sia investors who did not invest into SIP25, and have their SIP15300 investments locked into ACF until Oct.... now also no more chance to invest into SIP25. Just have to wait for Oct.
cheers! the part where the China gateway was set up, is the impressive part. to do that, someone has to negotiate with China officials.
this is the part where I swing more towards "SwissCash may be legitimate", if it is a scam, it is a damn fantastic scam
Couldn't agree with you more... high time you are here...'been searching for you... glad you are around and all those strong supporters of swisscash....God willing we will prevail....!!
arm2007
Jun 20 2007, 06:42 PM
QUOTE(NthDimensions @ Jun 20 2007, 02:49 PM) [snapback]4201724[/snapback]
digger71: 1) new account, 12 posts 2) all posts are replies to SwissCash related 3) 99% of posts has only one central message: "I think SwissCash is scam, it has shown its true colours" 4) one post claiming being SwissCash investor from M'sia and asking for more info
draw your own conclusions, folks! premature. at this current rate, at least it can last until Oct... and if Xun says ACF can only sell 50%.... then maybe it still can drag on til Christmas.... better check your facts, your so called updates are false. true. alot of ppl got to do a lot of soul searching, even my M'sian colleague said, "I don't know why, when it comes to money, M'sians seem so desperate for a fast buck.... scams lah, MLMs lah, pyramid scheme lah, all kinds of weird stuff." I believe if M'sian investors can access their acct, they can do epoint OMT, 1) if they have any epoint, 2) if epoint is more than 500, no need for such troublesome method.
now the problem is unable to login, is it not? I thought some M'sian influential datuk is SCash investor? Maybe he can help with his influence.... why u need to do that? you can do your own OMT oh yeah...SCash is pronounced haram by clerics
Noting to do with ISLAM OR HARAM here its more towards politics and jelaousy here. There are more HARAM things than this one, this does not deprived anyone please think and look beyond. Do not be biased we know that many do HARAM things up there, do not lie to yourself, you cannot. THINK ABOUT IT AND LEARN TO UNDERSTAND MORE NOT JUST JUMP TO CONCLUSION.
michael123
Jun 20 2007, 06:46 PM
I am not an investor of swisscash.
But I think this URL you can log into your swisscash account.
QUOTE(arm2007 @ Jun 21 2007, 10:42 AM) [snapback]4202104[/snapback]
Noting to do with ISLAM OR HARAM here its more towards politics and jelaousy here. There are more HARAM things than this one, this does not deprived anyone please think and look beyond. Do not be biased we know that many do HARAM things up there, do not lie to yourself, you cannot. THINK ABOUT IT AND LEARN TO UNDERSTAND MORE NOT JUST JUMP TO CONCLUSION.
I was told by a Muslim friend that SwissCash has been decided as haram. There is probably some document to support this. So, no matter how, even if the Muslim brothers and sister don't like it, they cannot continue with SwissCash, it's fundamental in their religion if a fatwa is issued.
If the clerics have decided, then any Muslim cannot participate in SwissCash, that's the fact.
gunungman
Jun 20 2007, 07:17 PM
just wait and see what gonna happen in this few weeks or months.
NthDimensions
Jun 20 2007, 07:18 PM
QUOTE(BeeTee @ Jun 21 2007, 10:26 AM) [snapback]4202089[/snapback]
Couldn't agree with you more... high time you are here...'been searching for you... glad you are around and all those strong supporters of swisscash....God willing we will prevail....!!
nice to see you around! hope u and ur family are doing well
I've been caught up with work, friend got cancer, colleague got stroke, and I went Mt. Ophir and Kinabalu trekking, just came back last Monday 2am, in fact
Therefore I say.... health is most important....
money, SwissCash, if gone tomorrow, let it be.... the important part is.... you have lived.... and you have participated....
(don't get me wrong, not saying SwissCash is over... yet.... at least I still get paid promptly )
while you are alive.... smell the roses.... treasure your loved ones.... go trekking, go diving, recycle! protect the Earth...
.... just don't leave this Earth with unfinished business
if I pass away tomorrow.... I would like to thank SwissCash for the past 8 months of increased financial freedom, .... and the opportunity to dream
p.s. and I thank my fantastic upline, and upline's upline *bow*
dreammaker
Jun 20 2007, 07:30 PM
QUOTE(xun @ Jun 21 2007, 12:03 AM) [snapback]4200946[/snapback]
Latest News... Brunei investors also can't login SwissCash account too. They bLOCK Brunei ACCOUNTS !!
BRUNEI acc. still can login. No problem.
kingkong123
Jun 20 2007, 07:31 PM
QUOTE(hanzahar @ Jun 20 2007, 03:49 PM) [snapback]4201840[/snapback]
u preeeeeeeeeeeeety sure?
i try to check with my upline
anyway does SC appoint any dealer in SG?
DONT WORRY .CAN STILL LOG IN TO SC IN BRUNEI.DONT BELIEVE IN RUMOURS
digger71
Jun 20 2007, 08:18 PM
[edit]#6 Be nice. NO PERSONAL ATTACKS, name-calling or foul language! If someone posts something you don't like, please don't flame them just because you don't like it or you don't agree with them. Everyone is entitled to state their opinion as long as MMG rules are followed. [/edit]
molder
Jun 20 2007, 08:53 PM
QUOTE(digger71 @ Jun 21 2007, 12:18 PM) [snapback]4202261[/snapback]
[edit]#6 Be nice. NO PERSONAL ATTACKS, name-calling or foul language! If someone posts something you don't like, please don't flame them just because you don't like it or you don't agree with them. Everyone is entitled to state their opinion as long as MMG rules are followed. [/edit]
the guy must hav lost his password....dats for sure...
sadsadmalaysian
Jun 20 2007, 08:56 PM
is there any malaysian who invest in sip25...
sereneche
Jun 20 2007, 09:10 PM
QUOTE(dreammaker @ Jun 20 2007, 07:30 PM) [snapback]4202180[/snapback]
BRUNEI acc. still can login. No problem.
Guys,
Brunei's accounts ARE NOT BLOCKED! If those who could not login , it may be too high traffic. You may try alternate site server at www.sip25.com .
Every country is doing very well for Swiss Cash except MY situation which will be ok soon..
I was told by a Muslim friend that SwissCash has been decided as haram. There is probably some document to support this.So, no matter how, even if the Muslim brothers and sister don't like it, they cannot continue with SwissCash, it's fundamental in their religion if a fatwa is issued.
If the clerics have decided, then any Muslim cannot participate in SwissCash, that's the fact. [/quote]
For sins committed , it is between us and god. We answer only to god. MY clerics and fatwa are biased in their judgement. MY mutual funds have not been declared HARAM but swisscash is. Actually investing is not haram but borrowing and paying more for the amount is HARAM and this is called RIBA. Casino which gamble are permitted by the govt wherelse gambling is sin without any doubt.Did clerics issue fatwa and govt act accordingly ? The answer is no.
SNOW66
Jun 20 2007, 09:27 PM
QUOTE(sadsadmalaysian @ Jun 20 2007, 08:56 PM) [snapback]4202344[/snapback]
is there any malaysian who invest in sip25...
Oh yes, Anything you want to share?
SNOW
paparaaaapa
Jun 20 2007, 09:31 PM
QUOTE(NthDimensions @ Jun 20 2007, 02:49 PM) [snapback]4201724[/snapback]
"I don't know why, when it comes to money, M'sians seem so desperate for a fast buck.... scams lah, MLMs lah, pyramid scheme lah, all kinds of weird stuff."
can agree more, some of those people really did it this way, when mobile phone is in trend, everyone sell mobile phone, when computer in trend, everyone sell...no strategy one....bored.
QUOTE(star2005 @ Jun 20 2007, 02:55 PM) [snapback]4201775[/snapback]
I'm very old online investor, I earned a lot and lost alot of money... to be hones both of:
swisscash.com and
EgoldFx.com
are great, honest, and reliable projects. I'm investing now in both of them and got paid many times on time.
What is your intention?
QUOTE(NthDimensions @ Jun 20 2007, 04:21 PM) [snapback]4201912[/snapback]
what may be more important is what happens in 2012. google 'polar shift' 'mayan calendar'
do what you can do, love who you want to love, before 2012.
what's that trying to mean? armagenddon?
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