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swisstalk
QUOTE

beer.gif Condone = disregard, overlook, ignore, excuse, pardon. Antonym (acknowledge).


SwissCash does not condone investors to break any law in your country. As far as SwissCash financial facility is concerned, it is a legitimate program under SwissMutual Fund's platform for its global investors.

Mind someone help to clarify the earlier post made on 27-9-2006 by a member saying "... Anyway, I shall leave you here to get ALL the new prospects. You can have this thread to yourself and keep it nice " What were the member conveying the message to the readers of this forum? As from my understanding in layman term on without prejudice basis, there is no time-limit of self-banned by the said member from this forum.

Someone who has gut to praise herself as giving "more friendly service" goes overboard to slandering one member whom she did not personally know, for greater recognition of "friendly service" and making baseless allegation against another member which most likely she were committing herself as deducing from the word of "partnership" in her earlier post.

Based on New Oxford English-Malay Dictionary, the word "condone" means (verb) "to accept or agree with something that most people think is wrong" (membiarkan) e.g. "I can never condone violence - no matter what the circumstances are."

However, the Compact Oxford English Dictionary, The World's Most Trusted Dictionaries, (Republished 2002), defines the word "condone" as verb "accept or forgive (an offence or wrongdoing).

From the above 2 dictionaries, the closest meaning the author wish to convey the message in the word "condoned" past tense is "agreed" to the offence that was committed in the past or at present.

Wow, we are not only learning about SwissCash but also some difficult word in English.


Cheers!

peace.gif
paparaaaapa
QUOTE(Awgele @ Dec 11 2006, 07:04 AM) [snapback]3335766[/snapback]

Is swisscash having a payment problem now. Anyone can answer this? Is this a sign of end.

nope you definitely is wrong, i heard some of them complaining about TT transfer back problem, but most of them get it done on 2-3 weeks now, since a lot of attackers trying to attack Swisscash, that's why TT trasnfer is disable for now
QUOTE(profitized @ Dec 11 2006, 08:26 AM) [snapback]3336286[/snapback]

Austria
Australia
Burkina Faso (Africa)
Belgium
Canada
Czech Republic
Germany
Denmark
Finland
France
Israel
Jordan
Latvia
Netherland
New Zealand
Norway
Russia
Thailand
UK
USA
Vanuatu.

i got more too, but too lazy to click on the SFP analysis to do so...hehe, but most of them are from my downlines though.. harhar.gif
swisstalk
QUOTE(vincentan @ Dec 12 2006, 01:23 AM) [snapback]3336581[/snapback]

yeah but just to add on, you don't have to quote "swisstalk" and she will still be more than happy to chat with you. clapping7.gif




Hahaha... thanks for your comment. Just quote MMG Forum will be good enough....

Your kind support is very much appreciated.

dance9bh.gif biggrin.gif clapping7.gif thumbup(1).gif post-69220-1110229459.gif smile.gif biggrin.gif

QUOTE(ClementC @ Dec 12 2006, 01:23 AM) [snapback]3336580[/snapback]

hie every1... sorry for this interuption,
i'm doing some promo for sc. here's the promo below.
this is to help one of my downline to archive his sfp of the mth actually =)



Hello ClementC, there is already a heated debate on the permissible of public offer of commission rebate and yet you are not following with the issue.

Please read the rules of SC or you risk your account to be suspended and not your downline, if someone lodge a complaint with SC. If you are lucky or your upline is powerful, then you may be safe. If not, you will be very sorry as a leader.

Hope you are not offended by this remark. It is for your own good and your downline.

Cheers!

cheer12.gif
NthDimensions
QUOTE(Salt @ Dec 12 2006, 01:21 AM) [snapback]3336564[/snapback]

hm don't want to make a panic here, but is there anyone else besides me having trouble of accessing swisscash's site ?
it has been down for almost 19 hours for me ...
just checking wether its my system or ... ?
thanks smile.gif


sometimes when I am stuck, I use Opera and it works, sometimes Firefox, sometimes Mozilla.
it may just be temporary

QUOTE(profitized @ Dec 12 2006, 12:26 AM) [snapback]3336286[/snapback]


QUOTE(NthDimensions @ Dec 11 2006, 08:56 PM)

any leaders here care to comment on how many countries is SC into now?

Please fill in the blanks:

Malaysia
Singapore
Indonesia
China (Mainland)
Hong Kong

any more?
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Here's some more from my team:

Austria
Australia
Burkina Faso (Africa)
Belgium
Canada
Czech Republic
Germany
Denmark
Finland
France
Israel
Jordan
Latvia
Netherland
New Zealand
Norway
Russia
Thailand
UK
USA
Vanuatu.
thumbup(1).gif That's 26 so far..


cool!
I add one more:

Macau (bet no body got this yet, huh?) tongue4.gif

NthDimensions
QUOTE(vincentan @ Dec 12 2006, 01:23 AM) [snapback]3336581[/snapback]

yeah but just to add on, you don't have to quote "swisstalk" and she will still be more than happy to chat with you. clapping7.gif

today's high and low for EMF is pretty big, from 1.25 to 1.31 ... any ideas?


dont understand how the 1.25 came about, yesterday too!
pumpkinhyip
Havent been in this thread for a while though I do hop in sometimes as a guest. My internet connection was limited as I was away back in my home country. I havent been able to grab the EMF $1 pre-launch price, so I missed it, but with my other fellow investors we might still get into EMF very soon.

I read a few pages back, especially about the outgoing TT issues that concerning certain parties, I had called a couple of senior members and was informed that there's been delays in the fund moving to the local bank accounts due to the transition of banks. And yes, paparaapa I heard about that too.

I am not here to lure referrals, so do not worry Swisstalk, chill out a bit man, you're too stressed about referrals! And dont get too personal. Looks like someone will send an assasin or a voodoo over a downline. Geez!

NthDimension, Macau is cool.

Paparaapa, profitized, vincentan, Lichristopher, Geoseven, MoneyEvo and all other seniors..you guys are doing a great job here, keep the thread nice!
pumpkinhyip
I cant help myself from commenting, as some members here would know I am known to be a little ruthless when voicing out my opinions.

Profitized: You dont have to say a thing on what is going on between you and Swisstalk. He's not worth it. Really! End of story.

Swisstalk: Has it got to do with your insecurity and you feel threatened by others? You ruthlessly and vigourously trying damn hard to make yourself look better with your baseless presumptions on other people. I may not have a very good manner in a way, but I wouldnt endlessly talk like that with a lady. Your posts dont make sense. And as I could recall vincentan, profitized and myself did leave you alone to get referrals for quite some time. That did not mean we're not allowed to have a discussion here. Whats past is past, no one is trying to get into your way, mate! And about Serene Chea, she was one highly regarded SwissCash spammer, we all know that long before you came in.

Yes, Profitized is friendly.

By the way, dont bother to quote me because you're not worth by words anymore. I dont listen to preaces. PERIOD
nvegacruz
QUOTE(profitized @ Dec 11 2006, 11:26 AM) [snapback]3336286[/snapback]

Awgele,

It's worth looking back a just few post about the outgoing money issue, Geoseven and I had posted about it. smile.gif

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beer.gif Condone = disregard, overlook, ignore, excuse, pardon. Antonym (acknowledge). Condoned = past tense. Do not apply in the current or present situation. Time is the essence.
Giving opinions is not a crime in a forum when someone tipped you off.
Involving individuals that have nothing to with an issue or literally based on some agendas/propagandas is not very ethical.
To not get into someone's way simply does not restrict a person to be in a public forum or a program thread.
Other's privacy should be respected.
Self-debated statements or arguments may sometimes be irrelevant to the subject.
Being judgemental and emotional over something on the Internet discussions? Better get our heads checked!
Trying so hard to be better, will make yourself much disliked by other members.

This is a friendly, community message from profitized girl_devil.gif
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Here's some more from my team:

Austria
Australia
Burkina Faso (Africa)
Belgium
Canada
Czech Republic
Germany
Denmark
Finland
France
Israel
Jordan
Latvia
Netherland
New Zealand
Norway
Russia
Thailand
UK
USA
Vanuatu.
thumbup(1).gif That's 26 so far..

I´m from Nicaragua, Central America. My upline´s from Malaysia.
MaximX
Hi biggrin.gif

My name is faeez and i from malaysia.

I want join this Swisscash but i dont have much money to join in because i'm student, crying.gif
if there any sponser who like to add me under your investment plan please send a messege at my mail.
This my mail (estmmy@yahoo.com) i will send u detail about me.

About sponser i will pay back after my investment return roll it.

(sorry for my poor english)
bluesky1977
Hi,

Does anyone know if china members can still use the "chinese bank gateway" for incoming wire transfer to SMF? where to find dealers in china? Had SC appointted dealers in different province of china?

I don't really like the idea of appointed dearlers, if i told my downlines to exchange e-ponits with their local dealers, they may endup join under them because of better exchange rate or services. i think a lot of people don't feel comfortable to transfer money to 3rd party except banks.
geo_seven
QUOTE(bluesky1977 @ Dec 12 2006, 10:44 AM) [snapback]3338952[/snapback]

Hi,

Does anyone know if china members can still use the "chinese bank gateway" for incoming wire transfer to SMF? where to find dealers in china? Had SC appointted dealers in different province of china?

I don't really like the idea of appointed dearlers, if i told my downlines to exchange e-ponits with their local dealers, they may endup join under them because of better exchange rate or services. i think a lot of people don't feel comfortable to transfer money to 3rd party except banks.


Hi bluesky,

no worry.. china still can using "chinese bank gateway" for incoming wire transfer. As i knw.. china there no effect on this new changed there. enjoy n happy earning there!!

QUOTE(MaximX @ Dec 12 2006, 09:43 AM) [snapback]3338741[/snapback]

Hi biggrin.gif

My name is faeez and i from malaysia.

I want join this Swisscash but i dont have much money to join in because i'm student, crying.gif
if there any sponser who like to add me under your investment plan please send a messege at my mail.
This my mail (estmmy@yahoo.com) i will send u detail about me.

About sponser i will pay back after my investment return roll it.

(sorry for my poor english)


Hi,

no worry about ur poor english.. because i m poor on this too.. hehehe!!

anyway.. i have pm u already.. but just to add here. this was investment program.. so i really not recommend student or any ppl to rent money for this. Join on ur comfort amount 1st. maybe u can start with $100 1st there. because from my part here.. i have many student join too.. they start from $100.. then when have extra income again.. there put more till most of them now having $1k investment there edi. hehehe

anyway.. the choice is urs.. good luck d!!
stephentan_82
anybody those interested in invesmting in SC but doesnt has sufficient fund..
dont worry..
plz PM me..
because i have a contact to a financial group who might be ready for u..
thnx..
happy.gif happy.gif happy.gif
geo_seven
QUOTE(pumpkinhyip @ Dec 12 2006, 03:03 AM) [snapback]3337167[/snapback]

..........

Paparaapa, profitized, vincentan, Lichristopher, Geoseven, MoneyEvo and all other seniors..you guys are doing a great job here, keep the thread nice!


Brother,

welcome back to here... not only us will keep the thread nice.. i m sure u will being here to help too!! hehe

anyway.. very welcome back here.. long time not see u around d!!

QUOTE(stephentan_82 @ Dec 12 2006, 10:54 AM) [snapback]3338997[/snapback]

anybody those interested in invesmting in SC but doesnt has sufficient fund..
dont worry..
plz PM me..
because i have a contact to a financial group who might be ready for u..
thnx..
happy.gif happy.gif happy.gif


wow.. cool... but just now that student just new in here.. so he cannot PM u there lah. maybe u might to pm him to help him there.. hehehe!! cheer12.gif cheer12.gif
rhan
QUOTE(vincentan @ Dec 12 2006, 01:23 AM) [snapback]3336581[/snapback]

yeah but just to add on, you don't have to quote "swisstalk" and she will still be more than happy to chat with you. clapping7.gif

today's high and low for EMF is pretty big, from 1.25 to 1.31 ... any ideas?

Brother hold your horses.. If you can hold on, wait further.. It will go up even more..
stephentan_82
oops..geo_seven..yaya..he cant PM me as u told me..hahhaa...

cheer12.gif cheer12.gif cheer12.gif
vincentan
QUOTE(stephentan_82 @ Dec 12 2006, 12:32 PM) [snapback]3339436[/snapback]

oops..geo_seven..yaya..he cant PM me as u told me..hahhaa...

cheer12.gif cheer12.gif cheer12.gif


hey friend is your financial group a loan shark or something? biggrin.gif just wondering.

and yeah will hold on to the EMF. maybe will reinvest more to average down my buy price.

and welcome back bro pumpkinhyip , nice having you around again
swiswes
should i wait for investment get mature before do another deposit to plan.each investment hv their own roi??
BeeTee
QUOTE(profitized @ Dec 12 2006, 12:26 AM) [snapback]3336286[/snapback]

Awgele,

It's worth looking back a just few post about the outgoing money issue, Geoseven and I had posted about it. smile.gif

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beer.gif Condone = disregard, overlook, ignore, excuse, pardon. Antonym (acknowledge). Condoned = past tense. Do not apply in the current or present situation. Time is the essence.
Giving opinions is not a crime in a forum when someone tipped you off.
Involving individuals that have nothing to with an issue or literally based on some agendas/propagandas is not very ethical.
To not get into someone's way simply does not restrict a person to be in a public forum or a program thread.
Other's privacy should be respected.
Self-debated statements or arguments may sometimes be irrelevant to the subject.
Being judgemental and emotional over something on the Internet discussions? Better get our heads checked!
Trying so hard to be better, will make yourself much disliked by other members.

This is a friendly, community message from profitized girl_devil.gif
--------------------------------------------------------


Here's some more from my team:

Austria
Australia
Burkina Faso (Africa)
Belgium
Canada
Czech Republic
Germany
Denmark
Finland
France
Israel
Jordan
Latvia
Netherland
New Zealand
Norway
Russia
Thailand
UK
USA
Vanuatu.
thumbup(1).gif That's 26 so far..


Bravo ! Profitized Bravo.!!..for the first time..I think I am cheer leading.... cheer12.gif
or is it the first time....??
sckn
QUOTE(swiswes @ Dec 12 2006, 01:27 PM) [snapback]3339655[/snapback]

should i wait for investment get mature before do another deposit to plan.each investment hv their own roi??



The return from your investment will be as follows.....

From 1 to 3 months.......monthly return..........= 10%
From 4 to 6 months.......monthly return..........= 15%
From 7 to 9 months.......monthly return..........= 20%
From 10 to 12 months....monthly return..........= 25%
From 13 to 15 months....monthly return..........= 30%

Total Return is 300% in 15 months

Note: You can re-invest anytime or before expiry. Each invesment is treated separately and expired in 15 months. Every month you'll receive your fixed returns on each investment.

Hope it helps.
jazzchi
QUOTE(profitized @ Dec 11 2006, 02:59 PM) [snapback]3333420[/snapback]

The site is fine..

Ok I made an enquiry and as expected, the delay in outgoing transfers is officially due to the Transition of funds from Barclays to HSBC.

Outgoing transfers will take longer so please be patient and your money is safe.

For fast withdrawal I recommend exchanging your e-points for other e-currency (such as e-gold) with a trusted upline or other member.


I have raised 3 tickets with SC admin but they have yet to reply. May I know if your enquiry was answered by SC admin? I am disappointed that there wasn't any explanation to investors that have made enquiry. Pyment is still delayed since 29 Nov.
Awgele
QUOTE(jazzchi @ Dec 12 2006, 12:31 AM) [snapback]3340392[/snapback]

I have raised 3 tickets with SC admin but they have yet to reply. May I know if your enquiry was answered by SC admin? I am disappointed that there wasn't any explanation to investors that have made enquiry. Pyment is still delayed since 29 Nov.


I just received sms from our swisscash mentor regarding the TT issue:

I just received sms from our swisscash mentor regarding the TT issue. He said that, he us to execute the TT on the 20 / 11 / 06 but it take around 20 days for the TT to reach the requested destination. He said this is due to the new policies. I hope this will shed some light on this issue. Care to jion my team just click away the url below:


QUOTE(cashNcarry @ Dec 11 2006, 08:06 AM) [snapback]3336154[/snapback]

There r no problem bro.

We also can sale epoint or buy epoint from members at this forum too.

So there r no ending peace.gif

Correct me if wrong.

Thank u



Thank bro..
profitized
jazzchi, my upline. Swisscash may have thousands of tickets on the matter. Either we be patient, or organise withdrawal through another method. Your transaction may take another week or so
phillip13
wow... nice to see this thread growing bigger and biger with so many members sharing dance9bh.gif

for newbies, all the members here have history of their own, it doesn't really matter who you sign up with,
as long as you're making $$$ cheer12.gif
flyersummer
so who have done TT already and still waiting?

My downline from US is still waiting for incoming TT to her bank account,

submitted: 28-Nov
approved: 30-Nov

pending still....
profitized
Edit: Please look back a few posts about the delay with TT's

We can cancel and sell e-points for another currency such as e-gold instead
jinike
QUOTE(flyersummer @ Dec 12 2006, 06:21 PM) [snapback]3340871[/snapback]

so who have done TT already and still waiting?

My downline from US is still waiting for incoming TT to her bank account,

submitted: 28-Nov
approved: 30-Nov

pending still....

hmm , look like so many investor still having incoming TT problem... i think we must keep an eye on it. never under estimate any possibility...
sometime " cancel" start from some small symphtom...
correct me if i m wrong...
NthDimensions
QUOTE(sckn @ Dec 12 2006, 02:41 PM) [snapback]3339952[/snapback]

The return from your investment will be as follows.....

From 1 to 3 months.......monthly return..........= 10%
From 4 to 6 months.......monthly return..........= 15%
From 7 to 9 months.......monthly return..........= 20%
From 10 to 12 months....monthly return..........= 25%
From 13 to 15 months....monthly return..........= 30%

Total Return is 300% in 15 months

Note: You can re-invest anytime or before expiry. Each invesment is treated separately and expired in 15 months. Every month you'll receive your fixed returns on each investment.

Hope it helps.


if don't cash out, don't re-invest, leave it there, gets 0.1% interest daily,
that's what I found out accidentally,
oh ya, it's called DIP, Daily Interest Payment,
or is it? correct me if I am wrong. blush.gif

QUOTE(phillip13 @ Dec 12 2006, 05:43 PM) [snapback]3340719[/snapback]

for newbies, all the members here have history of their own, it doesn't really matter who you sign up with,
as long as you're making $$$ cheer12.gif


thumbup(1).gif absolutely!
ClementC
yea... you're right... DIP = Daily Intest Payment.



"for newbies, all the members here have history of their own, it doesn't really matter who you sign up with,
as long as you're making $$$"

Agreed! =)
swisstalk
QUOTE(pumpkinhyip @ Dec 12 2006, 03:53 AM) [snapback]3337437[/snapback]


Swisstalk: Has it got to do with your insecurity and you feel threatened by others?


Hello, you are not reading thread before this post. Is it ethical to slander someone whom one did not personally know. If you were slandered by someone who does not personally know you, would you be glad about it? Put yourself in her shoes! Let me quote the slander for easy reference:

Quote
Actually I don't know Serene and don't wish to but i've heard over the months that she hardly offers any personal support if any at all, and is banned from forums for spamming. ... is definately friendly until the referral invests or chooses not to
unquote

Secondly, if you were alleged to commit the offence which you never did, were you be patient about it? The allegation is simply based on rumours and was posted in the forum for what motive? It was made at the point when one was trying to get a new investor. Why bother about reminding someone of commission rebates when one is practising the partnership too?


You felt provoked when one commented something about it. Why were you so easily provoked? Just to recall your nice comments in capital red words. "SWISSTALK, I AM BEING PROVOKED..." hehehe... That was no provocation except self-irritation and short temper.

Who felt threatened by others? I was so steadfast as an anchor and never fear of being threatened. You came as no peacemaker but adding fuel to fire.

QUOTE


.... profitized and myself did leave you alone to get referrals for quite some time. That did not mean we're not allowed to have a discussion here. Whats past is past, no one is trying to get into your way, mate!


Let me check on this point as how long is "for quite some time" : "... Anyway, I shall leave you here to get ALL the new prospects. You can have this thread to yourself and keep it nice." Are you kidding that it means for "quite some time" only? The point is not about getting referrals but on the question: Is it ethical to attack on another person's effort?.

Is she not at liberty to post until she slanders Ms. Serene to discredit her reputation when one is recommending her to a potential investor? Is that praising oneself above others in a "more friendly service"? If your conscience is clear, then so be it. There is much injustice to condone the slanderer.


QUOTE

And about Serene Chea, she was one highly regarded SwissCash spammer, we all know that long before you came in.



Spammer shall be banned from the forum at all costs. If your allegation is true, I will support you. Let us hear from Serene Chea herself in her PM yesterday (As evidence is called for, the PM shall be revealed for justice.)
Quote
Re:Are your account still active, 11-12-2006, 02:03 PM
Hi,
This is the 1st time I login since my partner has been using it. I still can login, ha ha! so?

Cheers,
Serene Chea

Quote

Hi Serene

I am just checking on your account as some critics said you are banned from MMG.

Cheers!

dance9bh.gif Unquote

As I said earlier, no one have the rights to stop someone, except the moderator or the member himself or herself on their own accord, from coming to this forum. Aways use right choice of words and respect others who was in this forum and are not here to defend oneself. There is no room for personal attack in this forum. Be here to learn about SwissCash and not to make enemies.

I hope there is no further debate about this post. So do not provoke me to respond in writing.

Rule# 1 Always respect the past members of this forum and never slander them behind their back. If they were wrong such as spamming, it was already past and no room to quote it here simply to provoke others

Rule# 2 Do not make allegation in this forum based on rumors. If you have proof on breach of Swiss TOS, report directly to them for investigation. If you are so nice to SC members to give a chance to repent, then provide evidence here when asked to do so. Let the matter be verified by other SFP from another team members before posting in this forum. When evidence is called for, produce it.

Rule# 3 Respect the member who send Private Message (PM) and keep the message private and confidential. Do not perpetrate and spread rumours about the member's conduct without verification by SFP from another team members.

If every one respect one another and keep to our own boundary, then this thread will continue until SC closed. If the debate goes on as the moderator has warned that "If you guys cant keep it civil we will start handing out warnings and punishing those who dont get along. Please play nice now." The scapegoat will be truly unhappy about it. So keep it nice!

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swisstalk
QUOTE(ClementC @ Dec 12 2006, 10:51 PM) [snapback]3342311[/snapback]


"for newbies, all the members here have history of their own, it doesn't really matter who you sign up with,
as long as you're making $$$"

Agreed! =)


Yes, new investors can make money regardless of the upline member. But some uplines can be more helpful, friendly and spend time (both online & offline) to render all the support to make the team growing fast and strong.

What ideas do you have to make your team grow strong and generating much profits from SFP?

Cheers!

biggrin.gif


QUOTE(flyersummer @ Dec 12 2006, 06:21 PM) [snapback]3340871[/snapback]

so who have done TT already and still waiting?

My downline from US is still waiting for incoming TT to her bank account,

submitted: 28-Nov
approved: 30-Nov

pending still....


It may be due to outsourcing to Third Party for the transfer of fund. Why need to out-source when they did it perfectly well before?

Could it be a sign of insolvency? It is a sign that SC is going down the road? Just wondering why some leader said in confident SC can last for another 6 months. If it is only 6 months life-span, then no new investors will pump in the money for the uplines to enjoy the profits. And then the EMF is just a delay tactic. So every new investors can stay away.

Maybe the Senior investors have better answers.

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vincentan
frankly i am getting irritated over such arguments which i think is pointless. on one hand swisstalk says no one can stop others except moderators and on the other hand you are literally asking profitized to disappear from here so as not to jeopardise your potential sales. I've some stuff which i don't want to say all along but since you are trying to be hostile again in here then i should not have any reservations anymore. since you so free can kindly answer every single point below:

All along you have been promoting on how good serene chea is etc. good or not, up to others to judge. i am not giving any comments here and frankly i have my own set of opinions. However, is there any point in promoting how good your upline is in order to recruit new investors? i mean... she is good does not reflect anything about yourself. her power to conduct a seminar for a million or so people or what is HER capabilities and such.

You try to attract people by saying you got 200k of spillover within a month or so. i would say this is misinterpretation. you did not say clearly that those who joined under you do not get a single cent of such spillovers. all experienced SC members knew that, but the rest don't and it is never mentioned in your promotion gimmicks. I am not into public promotion so i don't really care a censored2.gif but this is irritating me.
dare to say this is not true? come on, for example she gives you a spillover of 200k on your right side, but you need to balance out on the left in order to earn SFP. so nice people in the forum are misled to think they have half the job done by joining under you, but little do they expect they are actually on the left of your SFP. spillover? yes maybe a wee bit. 200k? dream on.

doing such active promotion for her, if i were a new investor i might as well join under her than you. what's the benefit for joining with you other than your private offers and perks?

it is common practice for such major uplines to give a constant spillover to either extreme right or left so people below can benefit on ONE side only. I am also getting large spillovers over the past 1 year from my upline who is above serene chea but you do not see me actively promoting it because even if this is a selling point, people would still realise one day they are cheated by me. In business you need morals and ethics...

would you dare to promise new investors would be on your right so they get to enjoy spills by serene? maybe you would, but certainly nobody will. it does not benefit you at all.

regarding the spamming issue, you can argue all the way but some facts are left blatant in your face. the more senior forummers in this thread is experiencing it before you knew the existence of swisscash. i joined this forum in february but was in SC since last year november and she is already "famous" then. toned down alot by "lesser active participation in forums worldwide", i must admit, but history is not rewritten because you insist it did not happen.

you can carry on your public promotion, go ahead. from now on, anything which i think is pure promotion gimmick and would not benefit new investors but instead seems to be misleading, i will voice out immediately. it may hurt your sales or what, i don't care. ideally keep your promotions in PM so it would not get blasted and whatever offers would not be known by others.

lastly, you need to go out make more friends. there is more to business than a forum whereby people just share and talk some crap. if need be, i can help do promotion for you to ask others join under you but firstly come out with decent and proper info on what they can stand to gain by being with you. time to get a life and step out of your upline's shadows.

supporting downlines wise, i believe everyone here is doing a good job in supporting. I pride myself as providing prompt and useful support for downlines, even tapping on my upline's contact overseas to get work done even though i do not benefit. there is nothing spectacular about this aspect of your promotion also.



Dear Awgele friend, i think it is against forum rules to ask people to check out your signature or what. anyway, just an advice.
GuideMonitor
so long !.....

lol

maybe a good programme
pumpkinhyip
I do read before I post, thats why I couldnt help myself posting last night. Slander is a strong word! Swisstalk loves commotions and attention.

I personally feel that this guy ain't normal in his post, takes a whole damn page to prove something that not in the essence.

I feel pity for someone who desperately wants referrals to himself and would go to the extent by expressing his "wisdom and words" could win over some hearts. Hopefully it works for you, Swisstalk.

We all stand an equal chance to voice out our opinions, though it may sound like "i heard about this and that .... from some members" but Swisstalk will sanction the statements slanderous. Truthfully, he's portraying some hostility agaisnt others.

I will not ask anyone even profitized or others to stop coming into the thread just because some people may find it threatening to their business.

All the words you throw at any individuals here clearly defines you, Swisstalk!

Give it up Swisstalk, be nice!

For newbies, give Swisstalk a chance to become your mentor/sponsor, please!
For new investors, do not try to advertise directly or indirectly anything that could break swisscash TOS, or Swisstalk will catch you
pumpkinhyip
QUOTE(vincentan @ Dec 12 2006, 09:22 AM) [snapback]3343399[/snapback]


it is common practice for such major uplines to give a constant spillover to either extreme right or left so people below can benefit on ONE side only. I am also getting large spillovers over the past 1 year from my upline who is above serene chea but you do not see me actively promoting it because even if this is a selling point, people would still realise one day they are cheated by me. In business you need morals and ethics...



great point vincent, thats one hell of a post! biggrin.gif
swisstalk
QUOTE(vincentan @ Dec 13 2006, 01:22 AM) [snapback]3343399[/snapback]

frankly i am getting irritated over such arguments which i think is pointless. on one hand swisstalk says no one can stop others except moderators and on the other hand you are literally asking profitized to disappear from here so as not to jeopardise your potential sales. I've some stuff which i don't want to say all along but since you are trying to be hostile again in here then i should not have any reservations anymore. since you so free can kindly answer every single point below:


Come on, grown up man. As I said keep our own boundary. Yet you want to start another long debate. I hope to keep it brief and concise. How wrong to interpret of stopping someone from posting? As I said before, I did not feel threatened by any senior SFC. What to worry? SC is going down the drain soon. As long as she did not ruin my effort to make new sales, why I want to say much?

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All along you have been promoting on how good serene chea is etc. good or not, up to others to judge. i am not giving any comments here and frankly i have my own set of opinions. However, is there any point in promoting how good your upline is in order to recruit new investors? i mean... she is good does not reflect anything about yourself. her power to conduct a seminar for a million or so people or what is HER capabilities and such.


You can reserve your opinions but do not slander in public. Do you know what is teamwork? I am sure you knew about it. So what is wrong to introduce my upline when she is my leader in Singapore and another potential investor in Singapore was looking for a leader with proven track record? I live in Sibu, Sarawak, East Malaysia and so cannot render support to Singapore potential investors offline. So networking with my upline is the best way to expand my network and increase in sales.

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You try to attract people by saying you got 200k of spillover within a month or so. i would say this is misinterpretation. you did not say clearly that those who joined under you do not get a single cent of such spillovers. all experienced SC members knew that, but the rest don't and it is never mentioned in your promotion gimmicks. I am not into public promotion so i don't really care a censored2.gif but this is irritating me.
dare to say this is not true? come on, for example she gives you a spillover of 200k on your right side, but you need to balance out on the left in order to earn SFP. so nice people in the forum are misled to think they have half the job done by joining under you, but little do they expect they are actually on the left of your SFP. spillover? yes maybe a wee bit. 200k? dream on.

The sales of USD200K in a team of around 62 investors (at that time) is to vindicate my upline fulfilled her promise and not a big talker only. It is an extra ordinary sales performance from a leader with proven track record.

The potential investors can always check it out with the sponsor on what they will actually receive and what support they will get. There are 14 days to decide when opening a SC trading account. I would say 14 days is long enough to decide. I was also testing my upline on what has been promised is fulfilled or not before I can trust her. Did I make any promises that there is much spillover from me or from my uplines? You have been mistaken. I was just telling potential investors that there is a real dynamic and upright leader in SC. No one is prefect for sure.

Just share my leader is responding to the allegation from member here:-

serenechea (11-12-2006 12:01:48 PM): 1) " I don't know Serene" since she doesnt know me, she doesnt have any right to say anything. I am not interested on how people talk about me. Because I am strong, there are too many jealousy people who will try to kill successful people

serenechea (11-12-2006 12:03:51 PM): 2) I am not in forum at all since 34 years, it is my partner who do it. so again it doesnt bother me at all. Those who know me are happy at my Full support. I do physical support and most downline are very thankful. If any one contact me at MSN as my downlines, I will help them the same equally.

serenechea (11-12-2006 12:07:10 PM): 3) If you think being early and can make good money it is wrong. U must have some networking in order to win

serenechea (11-12-2006 12:08:56 PM): Any body who hear something bad of SC or myself must verify instead of hearing other's comments. It is not one person who can tell the world everything"

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doing such active promotion for her, if i were a new investor i might as well join under her than you. what's the benefit for joining with you other than your private offers and perks?


A strong leader comes a strong team. It does not matter the new investor join her or me, the investor still have to work for it. If I can promise something, I will fulfil it to the dot. In SC, trust and honesty is the best policy. I just cannot bear to see some SC leader is dishonest in words.

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it is common practice for such major uplines to give a constant spillover to either extreme right or left so people below can benefit on ONE side only. I am also getting large spillovers over the past 1 year from my upline who is above serene chea but you do not see me actively promoting it because even if this is a selling point, people would still realise one day they are cheated by me. In business you need morals and ethics...


That is your choice. As long as the forum rules are adhered, there is freedom of speech. I am free to write in truth? Did any SC investor come to you saying swisstalk is cheating him? Do not speculate another person's selling tactic is wrong where yours is correct.

I have been working in an insurance agency for 13 solid years and as business development executive for an insurance company for over 5 years. There are a total of 18 years in my working career. Do not tell me about morals and business ethics. I know them by heart and always conduct my business with a clear conscience.

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would you dare to promise new investors would be on your right so they get to enjoy spills by serene? maybe you would, but certainly nobody will. it does not benefit you at all.


New investors are at liberty to discuss with Serene as whether or not to join her team and where he/she will be placed. Honest is still the best policy. When there negotiation is ongoing, I will frankly inform the new investors about the placement. If he/she is looking for spillover from me, I cannot promise it at all. But I would say I am concentrating on my left leg team only and can expect some spillover since all new investors will be placed on my left team. Again, the success of a new investor depends on his/her own effort and not on spillovers alone. In SC, the Binary Plan is fantastic as half of the work will be shouldered by the uplines. However, there is no room for laziness to prosper in SC. Work smart , good service ,honesty and trust are keys to success.

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regarding the spamming issue, you can argue all the way but some facts are left blatant in your face. the more senior forummers in this thread is experiencing it before you knew the existence of swisscash. i joined this forum in february but was in SC since last year november and she is already "famous" then. toned down alot by "lesser active participation in forums worldwide", i must admit, but history is not rewritten because you insist it did not happen.


Whether or not she was banned from spamming has nothing to do with the success in SwissCash and it is more a personal issue. Why care so much about her past mistakes? Look at our own mistakes first before judging others. No one is perfect and so no need to dig out all the craps.

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you can carry on your public promotion, go ahead. from now on, anything which i think is pure promotion gimmick and would not benefit new investors but instead seems to be misleading, i will voice out immediately. it may hurt your sales or what, i don't care. ideally keep your promotions in PM so it would not get blasted and whatever offers would not be known by others.


As long as you abide by business conduct and ethics, I will keep mine too. Every investors will be happy. There is no promotion, the way I look at it, as no promise is every made to potential investors. What I am doing is to sell our teamwork services to the potential investors. Once they know our network and services, they will come to us. You can do your own introduction services for your team and I will be glad to hear about it. It is a service to potential investors by providing them the correct knowledge and information. They will then decide on their own. Knowledge is power.

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lastly, you need to go out make more friends. there is more to business than a forum whereby people just share and talk some crap. if need be, i can help do promotion for you to ask others join under you but firstly come out with decent and proper info on what they can stand to gain by being with you. time to get a life and step out of your upline's shadows.


I do not know what offence she had made to you all. I may be victim of circumstances. I am pleased to apologize to all of you that I have offended you in one way or another, in words, thoughts and action. If you can work with me to support my Singapore network, then I am very glad about it. I must say Rhan has been very helpful to me too all this while as I chat with him from time to time. I have also learned lots from Serene online about SC background and how she can convince investors to invest. Definitely leadership skills take time to develop. There are still lots of things to learn about networking business.

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supporting downlines wise, i believe everyone here is doing a good job in supporting. I pride myself as providing prompt and useful support for downlines, even tapping on my upline's contact overseas to get work done even though i do not benefit. there is nothing spectacular about this aspect of your promotion also.



Again, my downlines sales are just to show potential investors that there are people still pumping more money into SC for profits. I am a cautious person and that is one of the ways to show that SC is still solvent. Once there is insolvency, we can hope for the worst. If you can produce screenshots to share online about your downlines SFP genealogy, it help not only me but all other SC investors. But there is caution as SC has even forbid to share "web content" in blog or chat room. Perhaps, you can share about the intention of SC for forbidding "web content" in blog. I would say it help more rather than causing harm to SC worldwide. Pehaps, there is always doubt about the authenticity of the screen shots and may be useless.

Now it your time to response. Thanks.

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NthDimensions
QUOTE(swisstalk @ Dec 13 2006, 02:49 AM) [snapback]3343923[/snapback]


"serenechea (11-12-2006 12:08:56 PM): Any body who hear something bad of SC or myself must verify instead of hearing other's comments. It is not one person who can tell the world everything"



gosh! for the briefest moment I thought this was a quote from the Holy Book, tongue4.gif

Well done, SwissTalk, keep talking tongue4.gif

and keep quoting your upline, she's your idol, we all understand smile.gif
helping92
SWISSTALK, I usually just read the posts, I am at work but I have a question to ask you...ARE YOU STUPID? why would you post this: "What to worry? SC is going down the drain soon." ARE YOU PSYCHIC? Who gave you this information? WHY WOULD YOU MAKE A STATEMENT LIKE THAT IF YOU HAVE MONEY IN SC??? Give me the proof or do not be spreading UNTRUTHS ABOUT THIS GREAT PROGRAM THAT IS PAYING ME EVERY SINGLE TIME! I am investing every month with my money! You got proof LETS SEE IT!! Sorry to be so rude, but I think you are just some stupid little kid trying to stir up trouble!!! This program has been here and will continue to be here no matter what you think!!
furious.gif furious.gif furious.gif furious.gif furious.gif furious.gif furious.gif furious.gif furious.gif


You want referrals? This is not the way to get them!!!!!!!!! So if you think that SC is gone soon, you are trying to CHEAT NEW INVESTORS????
NthDimensions
QUOTE(helping92 @ Dec 13 2006, 03:58 AM) [snapback]3344281[/snapback]

SWISSTALK, I usually just read the posts, I am at work but I have a question to ask you...ARE YOU STUPID? why would you post this: "What to worry? SC is going down the drain soon." ARE YOU PSYCHIC? Who gave you this information? WHY WOULD YOU MAKE A STATEMENT LIKE THAT IF YOU HAVE MONEY IN SC??? Give me the proof or do not be spreading UNTRUTHS ABOUT THIS GREAT PROGRAM THAT IS PAYING ME EVERY SINGLE TIME! I am investing every month with my money! You got proof LETS SEE IT!! Sorry to be so rude, but I think you are just some stupid little kid trying to stir up trouble!!! This program has been here and will continue to be here no matter what you think!!
You want referrals? This is not the way to get them!!!!!!!!! So if you think that SC is gone soon, you are trying to CHEAT NEW INVESTORS????


does this look like a kid?* tongue4.gif
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*edited on 13 Dec 2006
after a reliable source informed me that the image hosted at http://i16.tinypic.com/2eziadj.jpg was not a true representation of the famous SwissTalk,
I have scoured half my bedroom until the ends of my toilet,
and came across a legendary caricature of the so famous SwissTalk.
This portrait was paid by me to the full amount of S$0.0001 to a skillful Orchard Road Tunnel artist,
therefore the copyright remains mine,
and any attempt to defame, or slander my portrait, anyway it's drawn by that artisit through what he heard of, hearsay, "dont know very well of", etc etc, or
any attempt to download it without my permission is considered....
ah... what the heck! who cares!

any resemblance or similarity to any living creature or space alien or inanimate things,
is just a pure tragedy*

NOTE: I am not responsible for the portrait, please seek redress from the Orchard Road Tunnel artist


since I am now into the photo uploading biz, this is mine tongue4.gif
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don't eat shark fin, you are just drinking expensive chicken soup tongue4.gif
(shark fin got no taste tongue4.gif)

how the $%^ this is related to SC, I got no idea,
maybe I'm drunk!

(===== subliminal message======)
( people interested in joining me, )
( your next dive is on me )
( yeah, like real.... tongue4.gif )
helping92
QUOTE(NthDimensions @ Dec 12 2006, 12:18 PM) [snapback]3344339[/snapback]

does this look like a kid? tongue4.gif
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since I am now into the photo uploading biz, this is mine tongue4.gif
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don't eat shark fin, you are just drinking expensive chicken soup tongue4.gif
(shark fin got no taste tongue4.gif)

how the $%^ this is related to SC, I got no idea,
maybe I'm drunk!

(===== subliminal message======)
( people interested in joining me, )
( your next dive is on me )
( yeah, like real.... tongue4.gif )


yes, if you want the truth! good job uploading the pics, they do not prove anything! wave.gif
pumpkinhyip
believe me, swisstalk is not a kid, he's a very big boy.

swisstalk, you're wasting space here with your long posts every f**king time. tongue4.gif

"swisscash is going down the drain soon, ....if swisstalk cant get referrals" crying.gif

it's you swisstalk who needs to grow up and stop hanging onto the past.

sorry for my language lildevil.gif

i think for those newbies who are interested in swisscash, get 25 posts, and shop for your sponsor. PM them! i am sure any key leaders will be a great helping hand to answer your queries.

no worries, nthdimensions, our mate too here has been off topic and backward too many times, he deserves to be awaken by us!


okay folks, let get back to our swisscash biz!
stephentan_82
hey..sorry for any misunderstanding caused..oops..maybe i mistyped..hehe..so now i m clearing the air..

those have not sufficient fund means lower than 1k usd and lazy to setup an account...bcoz no point of setting up an account with a small fund..cant get any refferal commision...then they can join a financial group those have a large fund..and normally these financial groups will offer some benefits..for mine, they offered me 10 months to get 300% return..for me the benefit offered is quite good..so i joined..thats it..
phillip13
actually whats all these debate about?
trying to prove SC's credibility? or just getting attention for new investors?

shouldn't we be helping each other to maximise our returns from SC?

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nvegacruz
QUOTE(phillip13 @ Dec 12 2006, 08:36 PM) [snapback]3345534[/snapback]

actually whats all these debate about?
trying to prove SC's credibility? or just getting attention for new investors?

shouldn't we be helping each other to maximise our returns from SC?

ninja.gif

Ur absolutely right. I got my 7th monthly payment, always on time. Thks SC! clapping7.gif
cairel77
QUOTE(phillip13 @ Dec 12 2006, 05:36 PM) [snapback]3345534[/snapback]

actually whats all these debate about?
trying to prove SC's credibility? or just getting attention for new investors?



dunno either.. I dont care anymore.. doh.gif

waiting for my another SIP this month on 15th! and i also get ppl signing up under me last week and this week.. 3 so far. biggrin.gif
-AJ-
ummm what's going on here ninja.gif
rhan
Cool everyone.. Please spend time on making the best out of Swisscash.. Please do not waste so much time debating..

Sorry, i got nothing much to say except for "what do all of us benefit here if we're all debating among ourselves?" We will only gain more anger and chase away the god of fortune.. Cool down please.. please do forgive and forget..

By the way, the EMF also pay out interests daily just like DIP.. Refer below..

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No bad huh..
keanwai
Hey all senior investor....we better STOP debating!!As rhan stated we will chase away the GOD of FORTUNE tongue4.gif

Let make MONEY together!! wink.gif
cairel77
I need to learn to control my emotion.. 4.gif so i practise yoga everyday. peace.gif hope it can help me to play forex soon.. hehehhehehehheheheehhehhee just kidding..
NthDimensions
QUOTE(phillip13 @ Dec 13 2006, 09:36 AM) [snapback]3345534[/snapback]

actually whats all these debate about?
trying to prove SC's credibility? or just getting attention for new investors?

shouldn't we be helping each other to maximise our returns from SC?

ninja.gif


shhh..... dont get into the crossfire lildevil.gif

QUOTE(nvegacruz @ Dec 13 2006, 09:59 AM) [snapback]3345625[/snapback]

Ur absolutely right. I got my 7th monthly payment, always on time. Thks SC! clapping7.gif


clapping7.gif 1 more month and you break even smile.gif
phillip13
QUOTE(cairel77 @ Dec 12 2006, 06:21 PM) [snapback]3345721[/snapback]

dunno either.. I dont care anymore.. doh.gif

waiting for my another SIP this month on 15th! and i also get ppl signing up under me last week and this week.. 3 so far. biggrin.gif


great! i'm getting my SIP on 15th as well clapping7.gif

still thinking if i should re-invest on 15300 or EMF happy.gif
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