QUOTE(forex21 @ Oct 5 2007, 10:22 PM) [snapback]4420082[/snapback]
Yes, you are right. Only those who are prepared to live up to the year 2999 should be left alone. Swiss Cash definitely will return in 2999. No one can prove me wrong. Cheers.
Answer :
QUOTE(forex21 @ Oct 14 2007, 06:31 AM) [snapback]4431898[/snapback]
We do not support unverified information or rumors.
Question :
QUOTE(forex21 @ Oct 6 2007, 11:35 PM) [snapback]4421459[/snapback]
I respect your patience and foolishness as well. Anyway 2999 is not very far away.
Answer :
QUOTE(forex21 @ Oct 14 2007, 06:31 AM) [snapback]4431898[/snapback]
We do not support unverified information or rumors.
Question :
QUOTE(forex21 @ Oct 7 2007, 05:05 PM) [snapback]4422359[/snapback]
Yes, its true but you got the dates wrong. It will be in 2999. Also SwissCash will be having a conference also in KL, Malaysia in 3000. Trust me. The new CFO of Swiss Cash told me personally.
[b]Answer :[/b]
QUOTE(forex21 @ Oct 14 2007, 06:31 AM) [snapback]4431898[/snapback]
We do not support unverified information or rumors.
SCmillionaire
Oct 15 2007, 09:58 AM
Please Read Carefully
Q & A Section ( continue )
Question :
QUOTE(forex21 @ Oct 15 2007, 07:41 AM) [snapback]4433352[/snapback]
Oh dear you are absent again. Poor soul. Maybe January 32, 2999?
Answer :
QUOTE(forex21 @ Oct 14 2007, 06:31 AM) [snapback]4431898[/snapback]
We do not support unverified information or rumors.
Question :
QUOTE(digger71 @ Oct 15 2007, 04:46 AM) [snapback]4433105[/snapback]
So when Is 1st november of 2099
Answer :
QUOTE(forex21 @ Oct 14 2007, 06:31 AM) [snapback]4431898[/snapback]
We do not support unverified information or rumors.
PoliceInterpol
Oct 15 2007, 10:21 AM
Amir Hassan (MY SwissCash e-point dealer) giving a speech. Amir Hassan (far right) giving a price to an investor for topping in sales.
PoliceInterpol
Oct 15 2007, 12:08 PM
Mr Valentino of Bali, Indonesia. Founder and Manager of www.memberswisscash.com Email: memberswisscash@yahoo.com Tel (Mobile): +6281805547666 NOTE: His website above has a chat-room claimed to be frequently visited by Dr Albert Lee and Kelvin Choo. Mr Valentino had private chat sessions with them many times. To get true information, you can contact Valentino.
GPRS
Oct 15 2007, 01:52 PM
What happen to the GALA ???? No GALA meh ???
Can US investors excess the new website ???...
ymg
Oct 15 2007, 02:09 PM
The Source:http://r2wk001.blogspot.com/2007_10_01_archive.html Quote: Monday, October 15, 2007 SWISSCASH RELAUNCHING ITS PHASE I; NOT RUN AWAY!
SWISSCASH RELAUNCHING ITS PHASE I WITH THE PARTNERSHIP OF ASIA PACIFIC CAPITAL AND SUN FINANCIAL SYSTEMS
THE NEWS IS AMBROSIA FOR THE DYING INVESTOR OF SWISSCASH/SWISSMUTUALFUND.
Addressing the community of Swisscash Investors Michael Mansfield, ex-CFO of Swisscash and Hector W.Sidberg, Group Partner Representative through Swisscashguide website, once again assured that Swisscash is neither gone nor they are run away.
Earlier Mr. Mansfield promised that Swisscash would return in 9 phases. Now the Phase I of that assurance is going to take a shape and the US investors may see their sites from 15th October 2007 again after a span of 55 plus days.
They have given 31st October 2007 for the investors of Asia (excluding Malaysia where currently the civil case is pending), Middle East and Africa as well 15th November 2007 for European and Australian investors to get back their websites.
Further, this Phase I is for Collecting Historical Data & Initializing Websites only. Now, we do not know whether the monies are lying within the sites and whether they allow the investors to withdraw the epoints from their ebank accounts because according to the technical team much of the data is €˜corrupted€™ due to €˜legal forces€™.
The profiles of ASIA PACIFIC CAPITAL INVESTMENT LIMITED (APC) and SUN FINANCIAL SYSTEMS are little known. May be these are de-listed companies and managed by their parent companies as a part of the group concerns.
The message was silent in providing the profiles of these new partners. Now it is to the guess of the investors. If the APC belongs to the Asia Pacific Capital Group, a Hong Kong based asset management company that was established in 1992, and then the chance of swisscash€™s revival would be high.
The APC Group is headed by Ashok S. Kothari and W. Gage McAfee as Managing Directors.
If it were the new partner then to some extent the original Swisscash investors would be bailed out the loss of their investment. And the legal battle with Malaysian Securities Commission may not have much impact on majority of the Asian and especially the Indian investors.
Asia Pacific Capital (HK) Ltd. and the Managing Directors individually are registered with and licensed by the Securities and Futures Commission.
Asia Pacific Capital also holds a SEBI approved FVCI license for investment in India. It is to be remembered that both Reserve Bank of India and SEBI were silent till today without expressing their view on the legality of Swisscash in India. If APC becomes the new partner and the Plans of original Swisscash are modified, Swisscash may not be the subject of illegality in India.
However, since the above-mentioned companies like Asia Pacific Capital Investment Limited and Sun Financial Systems were not having enough data in the web, we doubt that these companies may be fake ones. The names sound and logos resemble the flagship companies like APC and Sun Microsystems. These companies are authentic and genuine and involve in similar activities like corporate finance and financial system providers. Until and unless something comes from their parent companies, it is still a challenging task to believe.
Surprisingly, another Asia Pacific Capital that claims to be established in 1982 providing asset management and other services from Los Angels and Taipei give little thought. It is headed by Mr. Richard Alter and Mr. Eddy Chao.
Now, which one, Asia Pacific Capital (HK) Ltd of Ashok S. Kothari or Asia Pacific Capital of Eddy Chao, is associated with Swisscash?
Swisscash says that it is restructuring the group activities in order to cope up the present legal crises. If the Swisscash goes into partnership and comes out legal several thousands of investors from all over the globe feel a sigh of relief.
Anyhow, it is a good sign for the Swisscash investors to hear such news after long silence. Unquote:
GPRS
Oct 15 2007, 02:25 PM
QUOTE(ymg @ Oct 15 2007, 02:09 PM) [snapback]4433819[/snapback]
The Source:http://r2wk001.blogspot.com/2007_10_01_archive.html Quote: Monday, October 15, 2007 SWISSCASH RELAUNCHING ITS PHASE I; NOT RUN AWAY!
SWISSCASH RELAUNCHING ITS PHASE I WITH THE PARTNERSHIP OF ASIA PACIFIC CAPITAL AND SUN FINANCIAL SYSTEMS
THE NEWS IS AMBROSIA FOR THE DYING INVESTOR OF SWISSCASH/SWISSMUTUALFUND.
Addressing the community of Swisscash Investors Michael Mansfield, ex-CFO of Swisscash and Hector W.Sidberg, Group Partner Representative through Swisscashguide website, once again assured that Swisscash is neither gone nor they are run away.
Earlier Mr. Mansfield promised that Swisscash would return in 9 phases. Now the Phase I of that assurance is going to take a shape and the US investors may see their sites from 15th October 2007 again after a span of 55 plus days.
They have given 31st October 2007 for the investors of Asia (excluding Malaysia where currently the civil case is pending), Middle East and Africa as well 15th November 2007 for European and Australian investors to get back their websites.
Further, this Phase I is for Collecting Historical Data & Initializing Websites only. Now, we do not know whether the monies are lying within the sites and whether they allow the investors to withdraw the epoints from their ebank accounts because according to the technical team much of the data is ‘corrupted’ due to ‘legal forces’.
The profiles of ASIA PACIFIC CAPITAL INVESTMENT LIMITED (APC) and SUN FINANCIAL SYSTEMS are little known. May be these are de-listed companies and managed by their parent companies as a part of the group concerns.
The message was silent in providing the profiles of these new partners. Now it is to the guess of the investors. If the APC belongs to the Asia Pacific Capital Group, a Hong Kong based asset management company that was established in 1992, and then the chance of swisscash’s revival would be high.
The APC Group is headed by Ashok S. Kothari and W. Gage McAfee as Managing Directors.
If it were the new partner then to some extent the original Swisscash investors would be bailed out the loss of their investment. And the legal battle with Malaysian Securities Commission may not have much impact on majority of the Asian and especially the Indian investors.
Asia Pacific Capital (HK) Ltd. and the Managing Directors individually are registered with and licensed by the Securities and Futures Commission.
Asia Pacific Capital also holds a SEBI approved FVCI license for investment in India. It is to be remembered that both Reserve Bank of India and SEBI were silent till today without expressing their view on the legality of Swisscash in India. If APC becomes the new partner and the Plans of original Swisscash are modified, Swisscash may not be the subject of illegality in India.
However, since the above-mentioned companies like Asia Pacific Capital Investment Limited and Sun Financial Systems were not having enough data in the web, we doubt that these companies may be fake ones. The names sound and logos resemble the flagship companies like APC and Sun Microsystems. These companies are authentic and genuine and involve in similar activities like corporate finance and financial system providers. Until and unless something comes from their parent companies, it is still a challenging task to believe.
Surprisingly, another Asia Pacific Capital that claims to be established in 1982 providing asset management and other services from Los Angels and Taipei give little thought. It is headed by Mr. Richard Alter and Mr. Eddy Chao.
Now, which one, Asia Pacific Capital (HK) Ltd of Ashok S. Kothari or Asia Pacific Capital of Eddy Chao, is associated with Swisscash?
Swisscash says that it is restructuring the group activities in order to cope up the present legal crises. If the Swisscash goes into partnership and comes out legal several thousands of investors from all over the globe feel a sigh of relief.
Anyhow, it is a good sign for the Swisscash investors to hear such news after long silence. Unquote:
SO where is the site ??? Relief and good sign won't make any difference.
forex21
Oct 15 2007, 02:40 PM
Its October 15 already in the US. Any idea if SwissCash is back. Or is the date October 15 another hoax or rumor? Can anyone reply me?
Why are people having so much confidence in dates when time and time again these dates have failed them. Why are people so gullible? Why are people placing their hope in lies?
When will people ever going to learn? Sigh!
QUOTE(SCmillionaire @ Oct 16 2007, 01:43 AM) [snapback]4433511[/snapback]
Looks like you don't see the irony of believing in false dates. Still can't get the picture? Its okay.
ymg
Oct 15 2007, 02:41 PM
QUOTE(GPRS @ Oct 16 2007, 06:25 AM) [snapback]4433827[/snapback]
SO where is the site ??? Relief and good sign won't make any difference.
Quote: Earlier Mr. Mansfield promised that Swisscash would return in 9 phases. Now the Phase I of that assurance is going to take a shape and the US investors may see their sites from 15th October 2007 again after a span of 55 plus days. Unquote:
WAIT FOR FEW MORE DAYS.
ckhoowl
Oct 15 2007, 04:27 PM
so now the data is corrupt
What's to stop an idiot from saying "Guess what SWISSCASH OWES ME MILLIONS ... "
A lot of things need to be ironed out, just saying that authorities corrupted the data does not make any sense. if anything that is the last thing they want to do. because they need the data to proceed in the legal suit.
investment6600
Oct 15 2007, 04:32 PM
Here is our technical team message: "Hello everyone, we have some quick updates to all our members. As it is now, the site is unavailable as we are moving on to a new website with an entire different script. We just received confirmation that the new website will be ready within the next 5 days (15th October) but we are still trying to meet that timeframe. As a result of the possible delay, we will embark on a compensation scheme later in the day. More details will be released later as we have to sort out some details first. Please help to spread the word about this latest update as we couldn't get hold of all members. It was a mistake on our part over the database corruption due to some legal forces and we will answer to it and not run away."
theSeekers
Oct 15 2007, 06:18 PM
QUOTE(investment6600 @ Oct 16 2007, 08:32 AM) [snapback]4433936[/snapback]
Here is our technical team message: "Hello everyone, we have some quick updates to all our members. As it is now, the site is unavailable as we are moving on to a new website with an entire different script. We just received confirmation that the new website will be ready within the next 5 days (15th October) but we are still trying to meet that timeframe. As a result of the possible delay, we will embark on a compensation scheme later in the day. More details will be released later as we have to sort out some details first. Please help to spread the word about this latest update as we couldn't get hold of all members. It was a mistake on our part over the database corruption due to some legal forces and we will answer to it and not run away."
the time frame already past...we did not see any site can view by US resident... not even a single URL.
jajarbink
Oct 15 2007, 06:57 PM
QUOTE(investment6600 @ Oct 15 2007, 04:32 PM) [snapback]4433936[/snapback]
Here is our technical team message: "Hello everyone, we have some quick updates to all our members. As it is now, the site is unavailable as we are moving on to a new website with an entire different script. We just received confirmation that the new website will be ready within the next 5 days (15th October) but we are still trying to meet that timeframe. As a result of the possible delay, we will embark on a compensation scheme later in the day. More details will be released later as we have to sort out some details first. Please help to spread the word about this latest update as we couldn't get hold of all members. It was a mistake on our part over the database corruption due to some legal forces and we will answer to it and not run away."
After 6 month and still keep going.... Phase 1 =
Cheers...
theSeekers
Oct 15 2007, 06:59 PM
QUOTE(jajarbink @ Oct 16 2007, 10:57 AM) [snapback]4434094[/snapback]
After 6 month and still keep going.... Phase 1 =
Cheers...
remerlin
Oct 15 2007, 07:03 PM
QUOTE(jajarbink @ Oct 16 2007, 12:57 PM) [snapback]4434094[/snapback]
After 6 month and still keep going.... Phase 1 =
Cheers...
correction 57 days of the net, that is less then 2 months
ymg
Oct 15 2007, 07:09 PM
QUOTE(remerlin @ Oct 16 2007, 11:03 AM) [snapback]4434100[/snapback]
correction 57 days of the net, that is less then 2 months
Swisscash has Now 58,000 members world wide. If it is true that the data are destroyed by the intervention of the Malaysian authorities, it takes easily more than 2 months Easily.
ymg
g0dfing3rz
Oct 15 2007, 07:27 PM
QUOTE(ymg @ Oct 16 2007, 10:09 AM) [snapback]4434107[/snapback]
Swisscash has Now 58,000 members world wide. If it is true that the data are destroyed by the intervention of the Malaysian authorities, it takes easily more than 2 months Easily. ymg
58,000? Aren't there 580,000?
Fredriksen
Oct 15 2007, 07:35 PM
QUOTE(ymg @ Oct 16 2007, 11:09 AM) [snapback]4434107[/snapback]
Swisscash has Now 58,000 members world wide. If it is true that the data are destroyed by the intervention of the Malaysian authorities, it takes easily more than 2 months Easily. ymg
What is your source for the member number? With a 100 million usd allegedly invested in a new it system it is surprising that not even a swisscash website to keep the investors informed as events are taking place is up and running? If security is the concern, surely a email newsletter would be an option.
magiciansmate
Oct 15 2007, 08:19 PM
QUOTE(remerlin @ Oct 15 2007, 07:03 PM) [snapback]4434100[/snapback]
correction 57 days of the net, that is less then 2 months
Probably referring to payments.
jajarbink
Oct 15 2007, 09:24 PM
GALA Opening on 15th Oct. What happen folk ??? Another false alarm ??? Well its norm right ???
Cheers...
digger71
Oct 15 2007, 10:36 PM
QUOTE(jajarbink @ Oct 15 2007, 09:24 PM) [snapback]4434225[/snapback]
GALA Opening on 15th Oct. What happen folk ??? Another false alarm ??? Well its norm right ??? Cheers...
Its still old news that bugging us , the same melody ..delaying and diverting , what else u can expect , cheers
magiciansmate
Oct 15 2007, 10:48 PM
QUOTE(digger71 @ Oct 15 2007, 10:36 PM) [snapback]4434313[/snapback]
Its still old news that bugging us , the same melody ..delaying and diverting , what else u can expect , cheers
All smoke and mirrors it seems.
jajarbink
Oct 15 2007, 11:07 PM
QUOTE(magiciansmate @ Oct 15 2007, 10:48 PM) [snapback]4434321[/snapback]
All smoke and mirrors it seems.
Smoke under water.
Accountant
Oct 16 2007, 12:05 AM
Lets take a little walk down xxxxx with YMG xxxxx since the Swiss Cash website faded into the sunset with all your money on the 18th of August. At first, when the site went down he was strangely quiet for a few days while he came up with an almost credible response, his first post after the fall was this little tidbit on 20th August
This is the real Swiss Mutual website:http://secured.swissmutualfund.biz/web/login.aspx
ymg
Later in the same day, he came back with this little tidbit xxxxx
SwissCash is Not Only Upgrading its websites, but is Changin the Server.
ymgShowing us all once again, truth is not important. When this ridiculous statement was challenged, he came back xxx with this post IT IS NOT SPECULATION. IT IS A FACT Already. ymg I think our anti hero was getting a little worried here, his next post has the standard anyone can make 2% a day in it and is pimping another program, just in case Swiss Cash is found out.
QUOTE
SwissCash can afford to pay 25% Monthly Return plus 10% Referral Bonus from the profits being generated from Trading. Even one of my daughter, a graduate of a law school in Australia and finished a 2 year course in "stock trading" can make a daily profit of more or less 1% to 5 %. Recently, I joined a new forex trading program which produced the following results:22.71% in only 8 trading days. This means that If You Invested 25K, it would have grown to 31K plus in just 8 days. Remember that SwissCash is earning "daily compounded" profits while it is paying only "Once in a Month". SwissCash is making a lot more profit that its payouts to the members.
Good Luck To All.
ymg
Total BS, but from YMG we can€š€žt expect truth€š.I wonder if his daughter even believes him. Next day, our xxxxx Chief is back with yet ANOTHER so called Swiss Cash website, wrong again YMG!!!
You just cant seem to find your saviorcan you? Next he tried this one
QUOTE
Just received the following e-mail message:
quote: I couldn't get any info from my upline, so I tried to reach the very top of the investor in China. She said that this website(www.swisscash25.com) is which SC made it.After that,I saw this SCAM msg, so I called her again and asked her where did she get this info, she said that she heard it from SC agent. She heard that SC agent also said that the site has been repaired 50-60%,So will coming back soon.
Not sure, which one is the correct info.. Hopefully will coming back soon anyway.. unquote:
The BETA edition, yeah, thats it, its a BETA edition! Suffice to say xxxx is not going to win the Nobel Prize for Economics.
QUOTE
www.swisscash.biz is No Longer official site of SwissCash. The domain was hijacked.
ymg
Still elusive is the new Swiss Cash site,
QUOTE
When I click www.swisscash25.org, I was redirected
When I visited the site, receieved the below message:
If you can see this, your account has been successfully created. You may now add content to this directory and replace this page.
You are solely responsible for the contents of your site. Any inappropriate sites will be deleted with no warning.
Thank you for using our services.
-------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by DomainTools.Com
Domain Name: SWISSCASH.INFO Created On: 07 August 2007 Last Updated On: 07 August 2007 Expiration Date On: 07 August 2008
Registrant Name: Domain Admin Registrant Organization: PrivacyProtect.Org Registrant Street1: P.O. Box 65 Registrant Street2: All Postal Mails Rejected, visit Privacyprotect.org Registrant City: Monster Registrant Postal Code: 2680 AB Registrant Country: NL (Netherlands) Registrant Phone: +45.36946676 Registrant Email: contact@privacyprotect.org ----------------------------------------------------
ymg
xxxxxxx posting a bio of the REAL Michael Mansfield (not the fake clip art Mike) as if this is the guy running Swiss Cash. Its not, this is the one whose identity these thieves stole to make their little scam look legit, xxxxx
QUOTE
Mike Mansfield, CEO of SwissCash is a famous Forex trader also.
Forex Money Managers
Michael Mansfield, Forex Money Manager, Managing Director
Mike Mansfield is an experienced trader and "Master Market Technician" with a vast educational background. A forex money manager for the Global Diversified FX Portfolio, Mansfield has been in the investment and trading industry since 1981 and has both discretionary and systematic trading experience with stocks, options, futures and forex. His experience trading began with options during his college years, but his trading expertise really intensified as a broker beginning in 1981 and then as a proprietary trader at his own firm in 1988. This eventually led to his top ranking as a systematic Commodity Trading Advisor (CTA) in 2000. His former CTA firm, Abalo Mansfield & CO (A&M), was listed in Futures Magazine three times during the year 2000, as one of the top performing Commodity Trading Advisors. In addition to his extensive trading knowledge, Mike has experience in brokerage management, investment banking, and as a consultant to other money managers, banks and trading firms. He has written articles in trade publications and has been a repeat guest on a nationally syndicated financial market radio show. reference: http://www.forex-day-trading.com/forex-money-manager.htm
xxxxx Coming back with this post that looks like a copy and paste but in fact has been edited to add Swiss Cash and such, to the bio of one Dr. Matthaeus Den Otter He in fact ran swiss mutual fund, but not the Swiss Mutual Fund€š and he never had anything to do with Swiss Cash (his own office denied the post later the same day)
QUOTE
Managing Director of Swiss Mutual Fund Complex (1994 €š‚“ 1996)
Dr. Matthaeus Den Otter
Mr. Den Otter, born 1952, holds a JSD-degree of the Zrich University and the Diploma of the Swiss Banking School. He is now a Senior Officer, Bank Licensing & Mutual Funds Dept (staff: 15 persons), and has been very active in preparing the practice of the Swiss Federal Banking Commission with regard to the licensing of Hedge Funds in Switzerland. Mr. Den Otter is regularly making speeches and writing articles and books about Investment Funds, alternative Investments and other regulatory issues.
Previously, from 1994 €š‚“ 1996, Mr. Den Otter was a Managing Director of a leading Swiss Mutual Fund Complex. He has also been involved in drafting the Swiss Investment Funds Act and participated in Technical Assistance-Programmes organized by the IMF and the IFC in favour of Regulatory Agencies in several countries.
NOTE: Swiss Mutual Fund Complex consists of the following entities:
When I started this post, I intended to document all of the foolishness that YMG has posted since the website went down, Its become fairly clear that doing this may take hours of time and I frankly dont think I need to beat the dead horse that long. xxxxx Swiss Cash is dead kids, get used to it.
ymg
Oct 16 2007, 12:36 AM
QUOTE(Accountant @ Oct 16 2007, 04:05 PM) [snapback]4434426[/snapback]
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Once Swisscash/SMF1948 Is Back, nobody will Listen to you. Re:Matthaeus Den Otter, he was CEO of Swiss Mutual Fund (1948) for about 2 years. I saw his name listed in the corporate history page during a presentation by a Malaysian Group headed by Amir Hassan in December 2006. I AM NOT LIEING. I AM ALSO NOT A THIEF. Your satatements are "Libelous". Where Is Your Evidence?
ymg
jajarbink
Oct 16 2007, 12:51 AM
QUOTE(ymg @ Oct 16 2007, 12:36 AM) [snapback]4434472[/snapback]
Once Swisscash/SMF1948 Is Back, nobody will Listen to you.[/color]
[color="#FF0000"]Re:Matthaeus Den Otter, he was CEO of Swiss Mutual Fund (1948) for about 2 years. I saw his name listed in the corporate history page during a presentation by a Malaysian Group headed by Amir Hassan in December 2006. I AM NOT LIEING. I AM ALSO NOT A THIEF. Your satatements are "Libelous". Where Is Your Evidence?
.
ymg
There was so many "ONCE UPON A TIME" story post by you, and all of them is NEVER ENDING STORY till today. Who is lying here ??? None of your post is valid and happening, what should i define that. ??? Holly Grail ??? or is it something like DAVINCI CODE ??? Why you stop posting in talkgold ??? Got upsidedown ??
Frankly speaking , you are making your self a fool here dude , where is your human value ??? Did you know what is personel intergrity ??? You lost it dude.
Cheers
xun
Oct 16 2007, 01:02 AM
Change A SERVER and it TOOK Half YEAR ? A Year? Or Whole LIFE !!!!
magtotdam
Oct 16 2007, 01:22 AM
I wish you guys best of luck. However I suggest the best to overcome lies is to ignore and move on.
Good luck everyone.
If anyone recovers do post some screen shots ya
Raconteur
Oct 16 2007, 01:28 AM
Well it seems that we are back to innuendo and wild claims, and all the naysayers screaming at every post of someone trying to give information.
I can assure you that this totally discourages anyone from trying to contribute to this forums original intent!
As there is nothing but being put forward by the naysayers but emotion and supposition I don't see any purpose to this forum or their postings!
I really thought this forum was to support SwissCash investors but that is obviously not what is happening.
Really! This forum has been reduced to the sort of crud level that Talkgold has been allowed to get to, to it's obvious detriment.
Admin! It is a shame you are allowing this happen to the MMG forum!
Best to just stop checking on this forum for a few days and if it don't clear up unsubscribe to MMG!
Raconteur
PS Just wait for the SMS!
PoliceInterpol
Oct 16 2007, 01:52 AM
QUOTED FROM WWW.SABAHAN.COM FORUM. Author: Michael Comment: "Let's all hope for the positive. But if this persists, then we all will know that www.swisscashguide.com is not reliable either. The owner could have announced it on the same website or tell us the new website. Meanwhile, we should all check with both Asia Pacific Capital and/or Sun Financial Services in our respective countries if these institutions have association with Swisscash or not. If there is none at all, then we can quickly arrive at our conclusion as I believe by now, both of these institutions must have tied up with Swisscash somehow by now. Good luck to us all."
PoliceInterpol
Oct 16 2007, 03:17 AM
FBI, CIA & Interpol are working round the clock to do a global investigation!
LATEST NEWS EXTRACTED FROM THE VALENTINO'S CHATTING ROOM.
st4r5
Oct 16 2007, 03:20 AM
QUOTE(Raconteur @ Oct 16 2007, 01:28 AM) [snapback]4434531[/snapback]
Well it seems that we are back to innuendo and wild claims, and all the naysayers screaming at every post of someone trying to give information.
I can assure you that this totally discourages anyone from trying to contribute to this forums original intent!
As there is nothing but being put forward by the naysayers but emotion and supposition I don't see any purpose to this forum or their postings!
I really thought this forum was to support SwissCash investors but that is obviously not what is happening.
Really! This forum has been reduced to the sort of crud level that Talkgold has been allowed to get to, to it's obvious detriment.
Admin! It is a shame you are allowing this happen to the MMG forum!
Best to just stop checking on this forum for a few days and if it don't clear up unsubscribe to MMG!
Raconteur
PS Just wait for the SMS!
I always like to think that support means we talk the truth, it doesn't matter it sounds really bad. Giving false hope is not supporting, it is mocking! All that has been said about Swisscash coming back did not happen. Phase 1 to phase 9 is a joke! Even phase 1 now did not happen. My friends in USA did not see a website hence they could not login (what to login anyway).
It's time to remind everyone that the following is the truth: 1. Swisscash stopped paying malaysians, singaporeans and indonesians since April 2. Swisscash stopped paying members since August 3. Swisscash website (its only media to communicate with members) is down since August 4. Swisscash does not tell its members what is happening hence its members must collect the information themselves from rumours 5. Swisscash lied that it would release ACF on 1 October 6. Shall I go on......(many more anyway)?
The logic that says o... one person was payed last month (which of course can not be confirmed anyway) does not make Swisscash fall into a paying category, one or even ten persons paid versus hundreds of thousands not paid.
I think unfortunately, people like the naysayers, although they spoke something that our ears don't like to hear, they spoke the truth. Until Swisscash can prove otherwise, the things these naysayers speak of are the truth. These people actually support every member, by learning the truth, every member can overcome this situation and move on.
Please don't distribute anymore information that is unconfirmed for the sake of members who lost money, our hope is something that is to lifted by verified information only. All information so far, even from swisscashguide.com is not veryfied (no sms nor email from Swisscash). Unless Swisscash sends sms and email, all other information is not veryfied hence it is only rumour. Rumour information to lift up hope is not supporting at all and it is actually an insult!!! [edit]namecalling[/edit]
magiciansmate
Oct 16 2007, 03:24 AM
YM did state that Dr Matthaeus Den Otter was involved with SC ! This was later proved to be totally untrue. I note that YM is now banned from TG !
PoliceInterpol
Oct 16 2007, 03:32 AM
Quoted from previous posting: MANY SAID SWISSCASH IS GONE BUT MANY ALSO SAID SWISSCASH IS STILL AROUND.
There is still hope for SwissCash to resume into action, maybe with surprises. If you agree with me, SwissCash has created its own history. Already through Mr Michael Mansfield's last news update, he asked us to prepare for the new upgrading and that SwissCash is going into a new phase of rebranding to meet new challenges in market growth, company image as well as ICT. There is strong support from its global investors for SwissCash. SwissCash may have behind the scene solved some fundamental issues with Malaysia. If we feel SwissCash has already scammed us, it can mean it has also scammed those corporate clients invested millions in SMF. If you read the past news update from SwissCash, its department mentioned that putting SwissCash as the same as other scam programs is totally unacceptable! Having said all this, it is up to individual to judge but it is still premature to substantially conclude that SwissCash is now gone forever. If SwissCash is merging with two new partners, let us give them some more time to prove it.
GPRS
Oct 16 2007, 03:57 AM
QUOTE(PoliceInterpol @ Oct 16 2007, 03:32 AM) [snapback]4434664[/snapback]
Quoted from previous posting: MANY SAID SWISSCASH IS GONE BUT MANY ALSO SAID SWISSCASH IS STILL AROUND.
There is still hope for SwissCash to resume into action, maybe with surprises. If you agree with me, SwissCash has created its own history. Already through [b]Mr Michael Mansfield's last news update, he asked us to prepare for the new upgrading and that SwissCash is going into a new phase of rebranding to meet new challenges in market growth, company image as well as ICT. There is strong support from its global investors for SwissCash. SwissCash may have behind the scene solved some fundamental issues with Malaysia. If we feel SwissCash has already scammed us, it can mean it has also scammed those corporate clients invested millions in SMF. If you read the past news update from SwissCash, its department mentioned that putting SwissCash as the same as other scam programs is totally unacceptable! Having said all this, it is up to individual to judge but it is still premature to substantially conclude that SwissCash is now gone forever. If SwissCash is merging with two new partners, let us give them some more time to prove it.[/b]
There is no Micheal Mansfield , if he is real he should be visible long ago. This fellow does not appear in person since day one. Did you notice that ???
Time again , the time already stop clicking since 18th Sept , the only thing can do is reverse the time and the calender and it is very unlikely and sorry we don't have black hole in earth.
You should take action now, not wait for action.
GPRS
QUOTE(Raconteur @ Oct 16 2007, 01:28 AM) [snapback]4434531[/snapback]
Well it seems that we are back to innuendo and wild claims, and all the naysayers screaming at every post of someone trying to give information.
I can assure you that this totally discourages anyone from trying to contribute to this forums original intent!
As there is nothing but being put forward by the naysayers but emotion and supposition I don't see any purpose to this forum or their postings!
I really thought this forum was to support SwissCash investors but that is obviously not what is happening.
Really! This forum has been reduced to the sort of crud level that Talkgold has been allowed to get to, to it's obvious detriment.
Admin! It is a shame you are allowing this happen to the MMG forum!
Best to just stop checking on this forum for a few days and if it don't clear up unsubscribe to MMG!
Raconteur
PS Just wait for the SMS!
You did comment your frustration towards the Admin and mod when this topic shifted to scam folder as it is now , and again same story. Don't blame others dude , you made the choice to believe and support all the false information that being feed. And you should blame your self for that.
Anyway you made the right choice to stay away from this forum which being conned again and again by your cohorts. Please come back when swisscash complete the 9th phase.
GPRS
magiciansmate
Oct 16 2007, 05:12 AM
QUOTE(GPRS @ Oct 16 2007, 03:57 AM) [snapback]4434685[/snapback]
There is no Micheal Mansfield , if he is real he should be visible long ago. This fellow does not appear in person since day one. Did you notice that ???
Time again , the time already stop clicking since 18th Sept , the only thing can do is reverse the time and the calender and it is very unlikely and sorry we don't have black hole in earth.
You should take action now, not wait for action.
GPRS You did comment your frustration towards the Admin and mod when this topic shifted to scam folder as it is now , and again same story. Don't blame others dude , you made the choice to believe and support all the false information that being feed. And you should blame your self for that.
Anyway you made the right choice to stay away from this forum which being conned again and again by your cohorts. Please come back when swisscash complete the 9th phase. GPRS
Correct ! False information like this posted by YM on TG.Designed to trick you into thinking the Dr was working with SC.Read it carefully to understand the smoke and mirror content If Swiss Mutual Fund 1948 and other related companies are "Ponzi" schemes, Dr. Matthaeus Den Otter would Not have agreed to become Managing Director of Swiss Mutual Fund Complex.
------------------------------ Wonder how many members actually believed the respected Dr was employed by SMF1948 ?
forex21
Oct 16 2007, 05:50 AM
QUOTE(PoliceInterpol @ Oct 16 2007, 07:32 PM) [snapback]4434664[/snapback]
Quoted from previous posting: MANY SAID SWISSCASH IS GONE BUT MANY ALSO SAID SWISSCASH IS STILL AROUND.
There is still hope for SwissCash to resume into action, maybe with surprises. If you agree with me, SwissCash has created its own history. Already through Mr Michael Mansfield's last news update, he asked us to prepare for the new upgrading and that SwissCash is going into a new phase of rebranding to meet new challenges in market growth, company image as well as ICT. There is strong support from its global investors for SwissCash. SwissCash may have behind the scene solved some fundamental issues with Malaysia. If we feel SwissCash has already scammed us, it can mean it has also scammed those corporate clients invested millions in SMF. If you read the past news update from SwissCash, its department mentioned that putting SwissCash as the same as other scam programs is totally unacceptable! Having said all this, it is up to individual to judge but it is still premature to substantially conclude that SwissCash is now gone forever. If SwissCash is merging with two new partners, let us give them some more time to prove it.
You mean you believe everything that Swiss Cash claims? That they have corporate clients? Sigh! Another poor soul who works for the Interpol.
PoliceInterpol
Oct 16 2007, 06:13 AM
ATTENTION: MR YMG or YM. YMG, please share with us why you believe in this man, Mr Michael Mansfield. Have you personally seen him? Share with us why you believe new SwissCash is 100% coming back. Can you show us proofs instead of unverified information here and there. Understand you shared with us that your daughter is now studying in a grammar school in Australia whereby your daughter is the classmate of the daughter of the Sultan Bolkiah of Brunei. Is the Sultan a heavy investor in SMF 1948? Why SwissCash management did not inform all its investors through a proper channel like our email or SMS but instead go through blogsite or chat-room which cannot be properly verified. What is the meaning of collecting historical data and initialising website of the gala opening on the 15th Oct 2007 for USA investors of which the opening did NOT materialise. What is actually happening? Are Dr Albert & Kelvin Choo really telling the TRUTH? or they have hidden agenda to buy time? or they are the false icons in the chatting room of the Valentino's website, www.memberswisscash.com? Share with us as much as you can. DO NOT BE AFRAID TO SHARE COURAGEOUSLY WITHOUT FEAR OR FAVOUR. EXERCISE YOUR PROPER RIGHT OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH! We love you, YMG!
PoliceInterpol
Oct 16 2007, 07:19 AM
ATTENTION: ALL GUESTS READING THIS FORUM. I have seen a high number of guests reading this Swisscash forum now and then. Would appreciate if you could sign-up/register and log-in as a member to participate in this forum by posting information here or sharing your thoughts on certain issues. It would be nice to have more people to participate this Swisscash fraternity to understand things in a proper perspective. Of course if you are trouble with Swisscash, by all means voice it out what should be the way. Once you log-in, you can click "REPLY" on any post here in this forum, a text message box will then appear for you to compose your text message. You can clear everything in the box if you just want to compose your own new post. Once you have composed your text message, just click "ADD REPLY" to submit the post and it will appear in the forum for everybody to read. Remember, you can still edit your submitted post within 24 hours. You need 25 posts in order to PM (private message) others or receive PM from others. All the best to all our guests here. Sign-up NOW to partcipate with us in this forum! YOU CAN SIGN-UP BY CLICKING THE "REGISTER" BUTTON AT THE TOP LEFT-HAND CORNER OF ANY FORUM PAGE. We welcome all of you!
NOTE: If you do NOT want unwanted signatures below your posted message as you can see some in this forum, just uncheck the box, "Enable signature?" below your text-compose message box before you submit your post. Even after you submitted your post, you still can click the "EDIT" button to uncheck the box if you forget to do it.
mySCinvestor
Oct 16 2007, 09:25 AM
QUOTE(PoliceInterpol @ Oct 16 2007, 05:52 PM) [snapback]4434543[/snapback]
QUOTED FROM WWW.SABAHAN.COM FORUM. Author: Michael Comment: "Let's all hope for the positive. But if this persists, then we all will know that www.swisscashguide.com is not reliable either. The owner could have announced it on the same website or tell us the new website. Meanwhile, we should all check with both Asia Pacific Capital and/or Sun Financial Services in our respective countries if these institutions have association with Swisscash or not. If there is none at all, then we can quickly arrive at our conclusion as I believe by now, both of these institutions must have tied up with Swisscash somehow by now. Good luck to us all."
really hope that can recover my investment soon.... hopefully all malaysian can get back money as well
xun
Oct 16 2007, 09:26 AM
I guess Michael Mansfield is Michael Jackson's brother. =) Ask Michael Jackson maybe he knows where is his brother.
digger71
Oct 16 2007, 07:12 PM
So it is very clear now ..swisscash gone 4 sure and now thats a fact
jajarbink
Oct 16 2007, 08:12 PM
GALA Opening is a hoax and BALI Conference is a pranks. All those update and believe this is a scumbag.
Hoax + Pranks = Scumbag.
Cheers
getpaid88
Oct 16 2007, 08:27 PM
No hope for SwissCash already!!!
magiciansmate
Oct 16 2007, 09:51 PM
QUOTE(jajarbink @ Oct 16 2007, 08:12 PM) [snapback]4435768[/snapback]
GALA Opening is a hoax and BALI Conference is a pranks. All those update and believe this is a scumbag.
Hoax + Pranks = Scumbag.
Cheers
Best to do what JaJa suggested.
Stick your SC screen shot in a picture frame and hang it on the wall.It will always remind you of how rich you nearly were !
PoliceInterpol
Oct 16 2007, 11:30 PM
ATTENTION: MR YMG or YM. YMG, please share with us why you believe in this man, Mr Michael Mansfield. Have you personally seen him? Share with us why you believe new SwissCash is 100% coming back. Can you show us proofs instead of unverified information here and there. Understand you shared with us that your daughter is now studying in a grammar school in Australia whereby your daughter is the classmate of the daughter of the Sultan Bolkiah of Brunei. Is the Sultan a heavy investor in SMF 1948? Why SwissCash management did not inform all its investors through a proper channel like our email or SMS but instead go through blogsite or chat-room which cannot be properly verified. What is the meaning of collecting historical data and initialising website of the gala opening on the 15th Oct 2007 for USA investors of which the opening did NOT materialise. What is actually happening? Are Dr Albert & Kelvin Choo really telling the TRUTH? or they have hidden agenda to buy time? or they are the false icons in the chatting room of the Valentino's website, www.memberswisscash.com? Share with us as much as you can. DO NOT BE AFRAID TO SHARE COURAGEOUSLY WITHOUT FEAR OR FAVOUR. EXERCISE YOUR PROPER RIGHT OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH! We love you, YMG!
paparaaaapa
Oct 16 2007, 11:37 PM
QUOTE(ymg @ Oct 8 2007, 08:27 PM) [snapback]4423898[/snapback]
Today`s GOOD NEWS:
Swisscash/SMF1948 Will Be Back On Line By 31 October 2007 Regardless of the Outcome of the Malaysian Court Case. The Reason for the Delayed Return of the Websites Are Nothing But "TECHNICAL". After the Return, Swisscash/SMF1948 will hold a Conference in Island of Bali and Any Swisscash Members Are Welcome to Participate. ymg
i don see any sign this will be true...well when this is the end you have to face it then.
PoliceInterpol
Oct 17 2007, 12:21 AM
FBI, CIA & Interpol are working round the clock to do a global investigation!
Below: Latest News Sreenshots extracted from Valentino's chatting room.
magtotdam
Oct 17 2007, 12:28 AM
QUOTE(paparaaaapa @ Oct 17 2007, 03:37 PM) [snapback]4436005[/snapback]
i don see any sign this will be true...well when this is the end you have to face it then.
It's good that you accept the fact that it's the end. Btw did you make a profit before it ends ??
forex21
Oct 17 2007, 04:14 AM
QUOTE(magtotdam @ Oct 17 2007, 04:28 PM) [snapback]4436061[/snapback]
It's good that you accept the fact that it's the end. Btw did you make a profit before it ends ??
Hopefully all Swiss Cash investors are back to reality by now. Its painful but that's a fact.
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the time already stop clicking since 18th Sept , the only thing can do
