What a tragedy! I saw these on TV but never knew it was this big. 900 pages to read my god.

Frankly if it's genuine why would the gov ban them? curious

BECAUSE THEY ARE STUPID INCLUDIN THE ONE OFFICER IN THE SWISS EMBASSY IN KL.




ymg

ymg,
Come on such a big organisation like the GOV is xxxxxx? If that's the case we're being worse than xxxxxx since we pay taxes to them, don't you think so

I wonder how much money on average a malaysian lose to this scam?

You better check the quality and educational background of those working for the Authorities.



ymg

ymg,
You're from Phili so how do you know their quality at work is bad?

Yes I agree they're not that efficient when comes to quality just like what you hear in Negarakuku video. They eat while they make you queue in the line....lol

Anyway, please do NOT call anyone 'STUPID'. Try to share like an educated man or woman. You may offend people who are reading. If you can, please edit your posts. Also do NOT criticize the quality nor the educational background nor the national anthem of any nation. We must respect all races and nationalities. This is my two-cent advice!

Advisory support,
My apology if I use the word stupid. But I did not say the GOV is stupid actually I meant they're not stupid. Notice the question mark after the word stupid?

Hope I did not offend anyone here. Did I?

We are all learning to be perfect. We learn from mistakes. We learn to respect people. We learn to forgive and forget.

Anyway, please do NOT call anyone 'STUPID'. Try to share like an educated man or woman. You may offend people who are reading. If you can, please edit your posts. Also do NOT criticize the quality nor the educational background nor the national anthem of any nation. We must respect all races and nationalities. This is my two-cent advice!

oh well....i guess you don't get what I meant.

I've removed them already, thanks for advice

I have came across this site and hope it helps... heard from my friend that they are able to get first hand info directly.

WWW.SWISSCASHREPORTS.COM

Be careful about giving out information about how much you have invested as well as your personal contact info.
The tax authorities in a lot of countries would love a lead like this to start investigating your taxdeclaration to see if you have declared this and in Malaysia the Security Commision could use this to investigate, freeze your bankaccount and bring charges against you for investing with nonlicensed deposit taker.
An information site should not require this information.

ANY RESPECTFULL AUTHORITIES WILL NEVER DECLARE SWISSCASH AS "SCAM" WITHOUT PRESENTING ANY HARD EVIDENCE.[color="#FF0000"][/color]




ymg

ymg,
You have a point

I respect their decision too. They're trying to save they're own ppl's money, I guess

Hmmm.....33%?? Thought it would be less than 25% since the management has to spend extra money for the offices worldwide. Sounds a bit ironic...

As for no more e-points, meaning no dealer. I would prefer this one.

Thanks anyway, multics

g0dfing3rz

Then what should we call it?

Closed , re-open or whatever more than anything I want to know how to get my money back

Questions I have as an investor:

Since Swisscash claims to be re-opening a new portal.
1. When will this be completed?
2. What is the status of our e-points?
3. What is the new system of encashing our e-points?
4. With all these talk about our funds being frozen by m'sia SC, how are we going to get our money back ...
5. DO WE NEED TO PUT IN MORE MONEY before WE CAN TAKE OUT OUR MONEY ?

HONESTLY, if this new system cannot even allow me to take out my money that i have invested to date.
Then simply swisscash has been nothing more than a scam ... and if they expect me to invest more to take out my returns.
Then this is truly nothing more than a very BAD SCAM.

IF the new SWISSCASH TRULY PAYS OUT ALL MY RETURNS TO DATE.
THEN THERE IS HOPE FOR IT YET.
Otherwise, this has been a waste of valuable time spent.

AND TO the CHEERLEADERS, I say to you... move on ... and stop hurting us with your lies

OR THEY ARE TRYING TO PROTECT THE ESTABLISHED BANKING INSTITUTIONS IN THEIR JURISDICTION. HOW THEY CAN SAY"TO Save Their OWN PPL`s MONEY" SINCE THERE IS "No Complaintants" from Any Malaysian Swisscash Members. Do You Know Even Malaysian Lawyers Recently Staged A Demonstration In PROTEST AGAINST NON-TRANSPARENCT RE: LAW ENFORCEMENT IN MALAYSIA, A VERY, VERY RARE CASE IN OTHER COUNTRIES.



ymg

Oh, come on, gentlemen, we're on the same side. It's useless aiming to something out there when the point is somewhere else. Don't waste your energy.

Better share the constructive messages each other. Otherwise you'll only get weaker.


Fingerz crossed,

g0dfing3rz

There's many more which I'm quite fed up too. But what can we do about it? If I have the money I'll be off to Canada for good. Montreal's a nice place to spend retirement days

[edit]spam[/edit]

Lee Kee Sien is the Universiti Putra Malaysia Veterinary Alumni of graduation year 2000. If you click the link below, you will find the name LEE KEE SIEN at no. 575. Could it be the same person, Dr Albert Lee Kee Sien? Any comments?



NOTE: If you can't click it, just copy and paste the link to your address field & press enter key.

So what you trying to say? it is just a name, what ever the relation to SC!

Best not to assume anything.All other such names linked to SC have proved bogus...

The answer is NO!

But the fact is, Since long time ago, SC already stop paying their investors and never respond to the investors.....isn't it consider "SCAM"?

ymg, I dun understand what make u so confidance about SC??? U meet the admin recently? or u r actually the admin?

Could someone confirm that press conference actually took place ? I was searching online for the press conference in the known Malaysian newspapers but found nothing. Nothing was on TV too but then again my friends may be viewing the wrong channels.

Or this is just an attempt by whoever to try to appease the SC investors ?

Just more and more BS from SC !

You are right. Just don't understand why people can believe in information that are not verified. Its good to have hope. But hope must be based on truth and not on rumors.

To all fellow muslim members , Wishing you folk Selamat Hari Raya and for those
who hope very2 high for your payout as promised before Hari Raya , well i fill
sorry for that .


Cheers.....



We can't do much buddy, we know the truth (crystal clear) but some don't till today.
Its all matter of time to one catch up things. In this case, we are far ahead and should
be proud of it. I do.


Cheers...

lastest all good ex-sc
http://www.swisscashguide.com/

Dear all Investors;

We really appreciate your patience till now. As we have promised before, we made all our efforts to save your investments over the market. Due to many unexpected problems in a short period of time for SC (Mareva Injunction, Malaysian Court Problems and Database corruption) We need your help and cooperation.


Here is our technical team message:
"Hello everyone, we have some quick updates to all our members. As it is now, the site is unavailable as we are moving on to a new website with an entire different script. We just received confirmation that the new website will be ready within the next 5 days (15th October) but we are still trying to meet that timeframe. As a result of the possible delay, we will embark on a compensation scheme later in the day. More details will be released later as we have to sort out some details first. Please help to spread the word about this latest update as we couldn't get hold of all members. It was a mistake on our part over the database corruption due to some legal forces and we will answer to it and not run away."

As stated in our last message we would be back in 9 phases. At this time our great partners who are planning everything now (Asia Pacific Capital investment Ltd. & SUN Financial Systems ) are in the beginning of PHASE one.









PHASE 1: Collecting Historical Data & Initializing Websites


- USA Residents 15th October
- Asia*, Middle East, Africa 31th October
- Europe, Australia 15th November

*Asia excluding Malaysia


We remind you that we will be back by this Timetable. We have heard recently that some Leaders and Investors from Malaysia and Middle East have started legal actions and complaints on International Courts against us, We strongly recommend all investors not to participate in their claims against SC or it's partners.


Ex-SC CFO Group Partnership Representative

Michael Mansfield Hector W.Sidberg

13-October-2007

GOOD NEWS!!! LATEST UPDATE dated 13th Oct 2007 from http://www.swisscashguide.com (Do NOT login this temporary site with your ID and password. Must wait for annoucement of new SwissCash website address).
In Malaysia, kindly access the website via proxy connection software ("freegate"- free to download from download.com). After downloaded the file to your computer, click the file with a pigeon picture from where you saved. You will then see a freegate box. Minimize the box (do not cancel). A chinese website will also load up at the same time but you can close or ignore it.

Dear all Investors,

We really appreciate your patience till now. As we have promised before, we made all our efforts to save your investments over the market. Due to many unexpected problems in a short period of time for SC (Mareva Injunction, Malaysian Court Problems and Database corruption) We need your help and cooperation.

Here is our technical team message:
"Hello everyone, we have some quick updates to all our members. As it is now, the site is unavailable as we are moving on to a new website with an entire different script. We just received confirmation that the new website will be ready within the next 5 days (15th October) but we are still trying to meet that timeframe. As a result of the possible delay, we will embark on a compensation scheme later in the day. More details will be released later as we have to sort out some details first. Please help to spread the word about this latest update as we couldn't get hold of all members. It was a mistake on our part over the database corruption due to some legal forces and we will answer to it and not run away."

As stated in our last message we would be back in 9 phases. At this time our great partners who are planning everything now (Asia Pacific Capital Investment Ltd & SUN Financial Systems) are in the beginning of PHASE one.

PHASE 1: Collecting Historical Data & Initializing Websites.
- USA Residents 15th October
- Asia*, Middle East, Africa 31st October
- Europe, Australia 15th November
*Asia excluding Malaysia.

We remind you that we will be back by this Timetable. We have heard recently that some Leaders and Investors from Malaysia and Middle East have started legal actions and complaints on International Courts against us. We strongly recommend all investors not to participate in their claims against SC or it's partners.

Group Partnership Representative, Hector W.Sidberg.
Ex-SC CFO, Michael Mansfield.
13-October-2007

d:d:d:d:d:d:dALL Good Ex-SC MemBers Pls Check Latest Updated New at http://www.swisscashguide.com/:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d

Why it excluding malaysia? what happen with malaysia and when swisscash will open up for malaysia? Does malaysia gov still think that swisscash is illegal

THEY NEED TO SETTLE MY GOVT STOMACH....SO IT TAKE MUCH LONGER FOR THEM TO DIGEST IT...


http://www.asiacapital.com/ ONE OF THE ASIAN PACIFIC PARTNER

Malaysia is temporary excluded as there are still some pending issues to clear.
Please inform this latest news below to all your fellow investors and downlines.
We need to stay united this time for the new partners to implement in 9 phases.
The latest news from http://www.swisscashguide.com, a temporary info website.
Do NOT login this temporary site with your ID and password.
Must wait for annoucement of new SwissCash website address.

Guys just check www.swisscashguide.com. There is no such message. What happened. The time now is 13 Oct 11.05 pm Malaysia. Another joke is it.

Its keeps on rolling as usual. Opps unable to excess or dead link

Argent, close your browser and restart it, then you will see the new page, I had the same problem.

BEST IS JUST GO ELSEWHERE AND GET PAID INSTANTLY INSTEAD WORRY ABOUT BIG MESS AT SWISSCASH. I INVTE YOU JOIN AND MAKE CASH EVERYDAY NO WAIT. PAYS INSTANT. I LOSE IN SWISSCASH SO I KNOW TIME FOR CHANGES.

Thanks Remerlin. Apparently, the new message don't appear on my Seamonkey browser. Only the old message. It looks like they have change the scripts. Avant browser works okay.

AdvisorySupport....I got to see the message now. Thanks.

Are you sure this is the same company?
The name is different, doesn't have investment ltd in it.
When I Googled Asia Pacific Capital Investment ltd, I only got one hit and that was a Swisscash announcement.

This is the sort of knee jerk reaction that we have come to expect from jarjarbink on this forum. The site does work and the news is there!

This is also a reflection of the way jarjarbink checks the reliability of his sources of info. He trashes everything to do with SwissCash even if he personally has not checked the info is correct and unverified.

Raconteur

PS I can't wait for the return of Swiss Cash because I expect an in depth apology from ALL the naysayers!

Can't agree more. I thought he will leave us alone. But he is still around. Even if Swisscash returns, he will still be around to create nuisance. Just leave him alone.
By the way, Malaysians CAN'T log in to Swisscashguide.com. Why? Ask the Securities Commission. Jajar...Perak is part of Malaysia.

The Profiles of the New Partners of Swisscash/SMF1948.


Sunday, October 14, 2007
Asia Pacific Capital in glance review - a new partnership of SC


Asia Pacific Capital is an investment organization which provides the following services necessary for success in today's global marketplace:

Investment Banking
Consulting
Asset Management

Founded in 1982, Asia Pacific Capital believes that the basis of all wealth is relationships; therefore the secret of success lies in cultivating these relationships for a long term win-win situation.
Mr. Richard Alter and Mr. Eddy Chao lead the company's acquisition and management team. Accredited with an M.B.A. from the University of Southern California, Mr.Alter's experience includes acquiring, financing, developing and managing numerous hotels, commercial and residential projects.In addition, he holds a general contractor license and certifications as a business counselor.

Mr. Alter is a service oriented deal maker for his firm's Asian investors. He has personally developed mixed use commercial projects and other developments totaling over one million square feet.

Prior to his association with Asia Pacific Capital, Mr. Alter worked as a Partner in a Los Angeles investment and development firm, as well as Executive Vice President of a Beverly Hills syndication company. Before focusing on the investment business, Mr. Alter also served as Chief Financial Officer for a public corporation.

Mr. Eddy Chao received his BA degree from the University of Chinese Culture and attended graduate school at the University of Idaho. He has sixteen years of experience in the real estate industry and has received numerous professional designations such as CCIM, SIOR, CIPS, CEC, ALC and CREA.

Utilizing his extensive experience in real estate investment and management along with his Asian background, Mr. Chao has helped his Asian clients acquire more than $300 million of USA real estate. The recipient of many awards and honors from various organizations, he is a frequent lecturer and often quoted authority on real estate and international business.


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ymg

Another FAKE news for waiting SC back. From April they start to ask us wait for 1st of Octorber. Now need to wait again !!! all are the fAKE news. Swisscashguide.com giving fake news. None of the date it gave are work !!! Why don't it ask us to wait until 1st January of 2008? still no the exact time SC will back and give us back money. [edit]Foul Language[/edit] DOn't BElieve it !! u all know that !!!

Well , i don't see any value from the site as what you huha all about. Its all one of so many
false alarm and act of a con artist. So you are saying that what ever you check is legitimate ??
Proff me one for sake ....

Thanks for the update.

That is really a good news for us, especially for all ex-SC investors when Swisscash coming back.

I still can not understand why there are still few people in this forum do not support the return of Swisscash. What are the benifits for them if Swisscash never return ?


Swisscash, we 100% support you !

SCmillionaire

YM, where is the source of your news about the new partner from ? Is it verifiable ?

Definition of UNDERSTANDING

Understanding is a psychological process related to an abstract or physical object, such as,
person, situation, or message whereby one is able to think about it and use concepts to
deal adequately with that object.

I understand that Swisscash is scam, when they freeze@ robbed investor's money from
their account@e-wallet and convert into ACF shares which subject to pay after 6 month.

My understanding goes deeper that they won't pay a single cent to this so called ACF stuff
and my understanding goes more deeper that they will run away before October inwhich
automatically left everyone related at pointless situation.

This is what my understanding all about and there is no doubt about that. If you still believe
swisscash will come back , they should back much earlier and there should not be any
nonsense like robbing investors money without prior notice and update later. This define
as scam to me. The reserve was strong and plan was great which bundle up to Billions. So
what is the point to do all this ??? You tell me........ or ask your self


Cheers......

Google for the information and then email the company for an answer.