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optimusprimes
QUOTE(digger71 @ Oct 2 2007, 02:30 AM) [snapback]4415087[/snapback]
What did u mean by this ?
R u playing game or something, plz stop the crap diablo.gif


hihi .. some of my friend investors went to made a report to security commision and made police report ..
at the end .. they got their account freeze for further investigation ..
might be freeze for 6 months +-
now they all in deep s.h.i.t. with no bank account to use ..

they hv been told that even they made the report .. they still wont get their money back because there is no prove of the amount invested and it's also consider illegal and not recognise as legal entity ..

if u wana make report .. pls think twice of the consequences ..

good luck ..
eallan
QUOTE(Oris @ Oct 1 2007, 11:25 PM) [snapback]4413918[/snapback]
Bro,

You mean you submitted 7 police reports.
I will be making mine report tomorrow.
I really hope all being cheated to file report.
The cheats need to be taught a lesson.
The should not endorse something they are not certain off and walked off irresponsibily without giving an answer.
I know we are responsible for our own financial loss. But don't you think the main reason why our friends introduced us this investment plan is to earn the 10% from us? Be honest with yourself, it is due to this monetary reward that they tried they best to convince and assure us that the investment is a sound one.

With such motives in mind, don't you think all those who introduced us are partly responsible too. I will not blame them if they did not gain from the introduction.

I can say, if not for their assurance, I will not invest. And the truth is, if not for the monetary reward, I am sure they will not hard-sell the investment scheme lor.
I agree!!
Let's go and file complaints and hope the authorities do us justice.
YES. LIFE GOES ON. BE HAPPY!!!
WORK HARD AND EARN BACK WHAT WE LOSS.
LEARN THE LESSON AND DON"T BE SCAMMED AGAIN!!
You sure?

Life must go on..Be smart work hard and earn back what you lost, OK!
busybody123
QUOTE(Raconteur @ Oct 1 2007, 04:01 PM) [snapback]4414522[/snapback]
One of the basic investment strategies with HYIP is to get your money out as soon as you can! My upline told me and I told all of my downlines. If you got greedy and reinvested the profits that you should have pulled back then I believe you have burnt yourself!

Obviously, I can feel sorry for those people that had only just invested, when SC took the site down. Their uplines should be doing the right thing as jarjarbinks upline did and refunding their invested money, if that is what wanted, with the proviso that they give their ID, password and TAP.

I am seeing a lot of screaming and shouting on this forum and this is not the way to solve any problem. Seems that talkgold garbage is being thrown at us as truth.

Now about people wanting to get their money from Amir and BB NG! Anyone with an IQ even of the level of Jajar, will understand that the money is very long gone, with the money in jurisdictions none of you can find or even know about, so forget it and get on with your next investment.

Raconteur

PS I still think based on my gut feeling and info I have from the banking community that SC in a new form/name will be back.


They will be back for sure under another name and scam you all over again. Gullibles will be mislead by so called leaders and e-points dealers/agents again.

QUOTE(y0s3v @ Oct 1 2007, 05:21 PM) [snapback]4414570[/snapback]
The only thing to save your investment now is by lodging a file to the local authority, suing your uplines. That's what I did and my son managed to recover the full amount of his investment, his up-line refunded his money, although I know that he also lost in this investment, but that's one of the risks of introducing a non-valid/non-legal investment schemes conducted by fictional investment institution (you can call it real just because it's registered, but in my language as a business lawyer, an investment institution only deserves to be called valid when it does more than just register itself somewhere in the world without having a contactable definite office where people can go and talk with them face to face and find out where their investments are put into). The logic is that some of the real investment institutions which have done due diligent can scam, even worse, investment institutions like SMF 1948 or Swisscash, they will definitely scam.


Swisscash and Sunshine Empire in Singapore are listed in the MAS investors alert lists. http://www.moneysense.gov.sg/check_our_lis...Portal_IAL.html

QUOTE(optimusprimes @ Oct 2 2007, 06:36 AM) [snapback]4415385[/snapback]
hihi .. some of my friend investors went to made a report to security commision and made police report ..
at the end .. they got their account freeze for further investigation ..
might be freeze for 6 months +-
now they all in deep s.h.i.t. with no bank account to use ..

they hv been told that even they made the report .. they still wont get their money back because there is no prove of the amount invested and it's also consider illegal and not recognise as legal entity ..

if u wana make report .. pls think twice of the consequences ..

good luck ..


It won't happen in Singapore and the USA. Other countries I am not sure. Even if you cannot get back your money, at least teach the top leaders and the agents/e-points dealers a lesson. That is, they cannot take everyone for granted just for their own selfish benefits by scamming investors millions of dollars out of selling their worthless e-points.

QUOTE(eallan @ Oct 2 2007, 07:05 AM) [snapback]4415431[/snapback]
Life must go on..Be smart work hard and earn back what you lost, OK!


We would earn back what we lost through hard work but we don't like to be taken advantage of. Understand!
forexjunior
QUOTE(PoliceInterpol @ Oct 2 2007, 05:05 AM) [snapback]4415262[/snapback]
SWISSCASH ASIA MARKETING DIRECTOR (with 'blonde' hair).
Mr BB Ng, his real name Ng Choon Beng, IC S7305335H, his address: 91, Zion Road, #14 -175, Singapore 16009.
His email contacts: bbng@swisscash.net, bbmaysa@yahoo.com His Singapore phone contact: +65-98511125.

SWISSCASH ASIA TECHNICAL DIRECTOR.
Mr Albert Lee Kee Sien, his address: 310, Taman Satria Jaya, Kuching, Sarawak, Malaysia.

what is your point from this report

bye2.gif bye2.gif bye2.gif
digger71
QUOTE(optimusprimes @ Oct 2 2007, 06:36 AM) [snapback]4415385[/snapback]
hihi .. some of my friend investors went to made a report to security commision and made police report ..
at the end .. they got their account freeze for further investigation ..
might be freeze for 6 months +-
now they all in deep s.h.i.t. with no bank account to use ..

they hv been told that even they made the report .. they still wont get their money back because there is no prove of the amount invested and it's also consider illegal and not recognise as legal entity ..

if u wana make report .. pls think twice of the consequences ..

good luck ..

Says who i have no prove
B4 sc shutdown , I MANAGE TO TAKE SCREENSHOTS of all of my account details
So that is a prove, rite ? So dont give lame excuses they dont know the exact figure of my amount yahoo.gif thumbup(1).gif lildevil.gif thumbup(1).gif clapping7.gif
powerdollars
QUOTE(digger71 @ Oct 2 2007, 07:56 PM) [snapback]4416193[/snapback]
Says who i have no prove
B4 sc shutdown , I MANAGE TO TAKE SCREENSHOTS of all of my account details
So that is a prove, rite ? So dont give lame excuses they dont know the exact figure of my amount yahoo.gif thumbup(1).gif lildevil.gif thumbup(1).gif clapping7.gif



Now maybe everyone would want to stop wasting their money and start making some serious money I'm in an excellent program that has not failed anyone in making their living from investments. It's reliable and worthy for a lifetime. From 1999 to 2007 $184,691,485.68 members profits has been made in this program. Email me for more info.
digger71
Wahhhhh,,...i've already got 40% warning thumbdown.gif harhar.gif harhar.gif thumbup(1).gif yahoo.gif rolleyes.gif
paparaaaapa
can we get any information from serene chea?
digger71
QUOTE(paparaaaapa @ Oct 2 2007, 10:12 PM) [snapback]4416392[/snapback]
can we get any information from serene chea?

serene chea has run away rolleyes.gif

pokpok
QUOTE(optimusprimes @ Oct 2 2007, 06:36 AM) *
hihi .. some of my friend investors went to made a report to security commision and made police report ..
at the end .. they got their account freeze for further investigation ..
might be freeze for 6 months +-
now they all in deep s.h.i.t. with no bank account to use ..

they hv been told that even they made the report .. they still wont get their money back because there is no prove of the amount invested and it's also consider illegal and not recognise as legal entity ..

if u wana make report .. pls think twice of the consequences ..

good luck ..
digger71
4 me , if some1 violated my rite , i must stand tall to defence it , no matter wht it is
So come fellow investors , let us file some police report to bust 4 good amir and his cheating team
ltif
Can anyone answer me? Is it all the world cannot search the website of swisscash?
xcessbiz
QUOTE(ltif @ Oct 3 2007, 12:47 AM) [snapback]4416551[/snapback]
Can anyone answer me? Is it all the world cannot search the website of swisscash?


Yes, that is right. Swisscash is gone and so are all its websites.
GPRS
QUOTE(pokpok @ Oct 2 2007, 11:55 PM) [snapback]4416490[/snapback]
QUOTE(optimusprimes @ Oct 2 2007, 06:36 AM) *
hihi .. some of my friend investors went to made a report to security commision and made police report ..
at the end .. they got their account freeze for further investigation ..
might be freeze for 6 months +-
now they all in deep s.h.i.t. with no bank account to use ..

they hv been told that even they made the report .. they still wont get their money back because there is no prove of the amount invested and it's also consider illegal and not recognise as legal entity ..

if u wana make report .. pls think twice of the consequences ..

good luck ..


The last remaining cheerleader on earth. Always loose but think its a win, hahaha
what happen to all your hope's? and your hope on others to hope like what you hope.??
See how many hope in there ??? All the reported file is boiling now on authority's table.
Soon all the scumbag will start to get busted one after one. Before that these sumbag
can hide but cannot run away.

GPRS
thumbup(1).gif
siaoyu
Swisscash A.K.A Swiss Mutual Fund at Singapore News
October 02, 2007
Business Times - 01 Oct 2007

MALAYSIA INSIGHT
Kudos to SC for action against scammers Strong message sent to crooks who prey on gullible

By S JAYASANKARAN
KL CORRESPONDENT

IN a landmark event, a sum of RM35 million (S$15.3 million) will be transferred back to Malaysia this Friday from six bank accounts in Hong Kong and eight bank accounts in Singapore. The money was ill-gotten, having been obtained by defrauding people, mostly Malaysians, through an Internet scam called Swisscash.

The Securities Commission (SC), Malaysia's markets regulator and the authority responsible for the funds' return, described the latest development as a 'breakthrough'.

To recapitulate, the regulator moved against the Malaysian promoters of a scam Internet website that promised investors an astonishing 300 per cent return over 15 months. The so-called 'Swiss Mutual Fund or Swiss Cash', according to its legend over the site, had been set up in 1948 by the Cheviot family of France and been operated out of Berne, Switzerland until it moved, in 1996, to the Dominican Republic, ostensibly for tax reasons.

There was only one problem with that: the Swiss Embassy in Malaysia professed ignorance about the Cheviot family and said it didn't have the faintest idea about such a business. According to affidavits filed in the High Court of Malaya, the websites, which are global because of the borderless nature of the Internet, may have collected as much as US$83 million from gullible investors in Malaysia, especially, and others from places like Hong Kong and Singapore.

The SC contended that these sites ran afoul of Malaysian laws (fund management and investment advice are businesses that have to be licensed), including anti-money-laundering rules. In addition, they may have been flouting banking laws as well for accepting deposits without a licence.

In any case, the regulator filed civil suits against the websites' promoters and, pending the outcome of the full trial, successfully froze 22 Malaysian bank accounts of the promoters' and their companies holding almost RM3 million.

But the authority went one better this time, extending its reach across its borders and illustrating, quite magnificently, the respect for the rule of law in countries like Singapore and Hong Kong.

What the Securities Commission did was to secure a global Mareva injunction against the scam's promoters pending the outcome of the legal action against them. The action is against three individuals and four companies controlled by them.

Another bank account on the Isle of Jersey holding more than US$1.7 million has also been frozen pending separate investigations on the promoters by the authorities there. Presumably, this money will be the next to be brought back home.

This exercise essentially means the commission is opting for civil remedies instead of criminal prosecutions. That is good as such prosecutions - especially those involving complex commercial litigation - have been tedious, consuming of time and taxpayers' money, and rarely successful. The only successes, if at all, have been those where the defendants pleaded guilty to lesser charges and were wrist-slapped through fines.

Civil proceedings are faster and, in many ways, hit the wrongdoers where it hurts the most: their wallet. Freezing bank accounts and getting monies back compels those affected to fight their cases with urgency.

The action taken by the SC sends a strong message to white-collar miscreants who prey on the gullible. That is absolutely great.

source : http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/sub/news/s...,250935,00.html?

Note : If you want your money back. Try contact this :

Swisscash victims, it's true, the Msian Sec Comm (MSC) has obtained a court order for the transfer of RM35m of Swisscash money in foreign bank accounts to Malaysia. If the MSC wins the case against Amir Hassan, Albert Lee et al, the cash will be distributed to Swisscash victims.

If you want to get on that list of victims, your best bet would be to contact the MSC. Details here, as found on their website:

Investor Affairs & Complaints Department
Securities Commission
No 3 Persiaran Bukit Kiara
Bukit Kiara
50490 Kuala Lumpur

Tel: 603 6204 8999
Fax: 603 6204 8991
E-mail: aduan@seccom.com.my

Source : http://www.worldlawdirect.com/forum/showth...83&page=105

Swisscash A.K.A Swiss Mutual Fund at Singapore News
October 02, 2007
Business Times - 01 Oct 2007

MALAYSIA INSIGHT
Kudos to SC for action against scammers Strong message sent to crooks who prey on gullible

By S JAYASANKARAN
KL CORRESPONDENT

IN a landmark event, a sum of RM35 million (S$15.3 million) will be transferred back to Malaysia this Friday from six bank accounts in Hong Kong and eight bank accounts in Singapore. The money was ill-gotten, having been obtained by defrauding people, mostly Malaysians, through an Internet scam called Swisscash.

The Securities Commission (SC), Malaysia's markets regulator and the authority responsible for the funds' return, described the latest development as a 'breakthrough'.

To recapitulate, the regulator moved against the Malaysian promoters of a scam Internet website that promised investors an astonishing 300 per cent return over 15 months. The so-called 'Swiss Mutual Fund or Swiss Cash', according to its legend over the site, had been set up in 1948 by the Cheviot family of France and been operated out of Berne, Switzerland until it moved, in 1996, to the Dominican Republic, ostensibly for tax reasons.

There was only one problem with that: the Swiss Embassy in Malaysia professed ignorance about the Cheviot family and said it didn't have the faintest idea about such a business. According to affidavits filed in the High Court of Malaya, the websites, which are global because of the borderless nature of the Internet, may have collected as much as US$83 million from gullible investors in Malaysia, especially, and others from places like Hong Kong and Singapore.

The SC contended that these sites ran afoul of Malaysian laws (fund management and investment advice are businesses that have to be licensed), including anti-money-laundering rules. In addition, they may have been flouting banking laws as well for accepting deposits without a licence.

In any case, the regulator filed civil suits against the websites' promoters and, pending the outcome of the full trial, successfully froze 22 Malaysian bank accounts of the promoters' and their companies holding almost RM3 million.

But the authority went one better this time, extending its reach across its borders and illustrating, quite magnificently, the respect for the rule of law in countries like Singapore and Hong Kong.

What the Securities Commission did was to secure a global Mareva injunction against the scam's promoters pending the outcome of the legal action against them. The action is against three individuals and four companies controlled by them.

Another bank account on the Isle of Jersey holding more than US$1.7 million has also been frozen pending separate investigations on the promoters by the authorities there. Presumably, this money will be the next to be brought back home.

This exercise essentially means the commission is opting for civil remedies instead of criminal prosecutions. That is good as such prosecutions - especially those involving complex commercial litigation - have been tedious, consuming of time and taxpayers' money, and rarely successful. The only successes, if at all, have been those where the defendants pleaded guilty to lesser charges and were wrist-slapped through fines.

Civil proceedings are faster and, in many ways, hit the wrongdoers where it hurts the most: their wallet. Freezing bank accounts and getting monies back compels those affected to fight their cases with urgency.

The action taken by the SC sends a strong message to white-collar miscreants who prey on the gullible. That is absolutely great.

source : http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/sub/news/s...,250935,00.html?

Note : If you want your money back. Try contact this :

Swisscash victims, it's true, the Msian Sec Comm (MSC) has obtained a court order for the transfer of RM35m of Swisscash money in foreign bank accounts to Malaysia. If the MSC wins the case against Amir Hassan, Albert Lee et al, the cash will be distributed to Swisscash victims.

If you want to get on that list of victims, your best bet would be to contact the MSC. Details here, as found on their website:

Investor Affairs & Complaints Department
Securities Commission
No 3 Persiaran Bukit Kiara
Bukit Kiara
50490 Kuala Lumpur

Tel: 603 6204 8999
Fax: 603 6204 8991
E-mail: aduan@seccom.com.my

Source : http://www.worldlawdirect.com/forum/showth...83&page=105

Swisscash A.K.A Swiss Mutual Fund at Singapore News
October 02, 2007
Business Times - 01 Oct 2007

MALAYSIA INSIGHT
Kudos to SC for action against scammers Strong message sent to crooks who prey on gullible

By S JAYASANKARAN
KL CORRESPONDENT

IN a landmark event, a sum of RM35 million (S$15.3 million) will be transferred back to Malaysia this Friday from six bank accounts in Hong Kong and eight bank accounts in Singapore. The money was ill-gotten, having been obtained by defrauding people, mostly Malaysians, through an Internet scam called Swisscash.

The Securities Commission (SC), Malaysia's markets regulator and the authority responsible for the funds' return, described the latest development as a 'breakthrough'.

To recapitulate, the regulator moved against the Malaysian promoters of a scam Internet website that promised investors an astonishing 300 per cent return over 15 months. The so-called 'Swiss Mutual Fund or Swiss Cash', according to its legend over the site, had been set up in 1948 by the Cheviot family of France and been operated out of Berne, Switzerland until it moved, in 1996, to the Dominican Republic, ostensibly for tax reasons.

There was only one problem with that: the Swiss Embassy in Malaysia professed ignorance about the Cheviot family and said it didn't have the faintest idea about such a business. According to affidavits filed in the High Court of Malaya, the websites, which are global because of the borderless nature of the Internet, may have collected as much as US$83 million from gullible investors in Malaysia, especially, and others from places like Hong Kong and Singapore.

The SC contended that these sites ran afoul of Malaysian laws (fund management and investment advice are businesses that have to be licensed), including anti-money-laundering rules. In addition, they may have been flouting banking laws as well for accepting deposits without a licence.

In any case, the regulator filed civil suits against the websites' promoters and, pending the outcome of the full trial, successfully froze 22 Malaysian bank accounts of the promoters' and their companies holding almost RM3 million.

But the authority went one better this time, extending its reach across its borders and illustrating, quite magnificently, the respect for the rule of law in countries like Singapore and Hong Kong.

What the Securities Commission did was to secure a global Mareva injunction against the scam's promoters pending the outcome of the legal action against them. The action is against three individuals and four companies controlled by them.

Another bank account on the Isle of Jersey holding more than US$1.7 million has also been frozen pending separate investigations on the promoters by the authorities there. Presumably, this money will be the next to be brought back home.

This exercise essentially means the commission is opting for civil remedies instead of criminal prosecutions. That is good as such prosecutions - especially those involving complex commercial litigation - have been tedious, consuming of time and taxpayers' money, and rarely successful. The only successes, if at all, have been those where the defendants pleaded guilty to lesser charges and were wrist-slapped through fines.

Civil proceedings are faster and, in many ways, hit the wrongdoers where it hurts the most: their wallet. Freezing bank accounts and getting monies back compels those affected to fight their cases with urgency.

The action taken by the SC sends a strong message to white-collar miscreants who prey on the gullible. That is absolutely great.

source : http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/sub/news/s...,250935,00.html?

Note : If you want your money back. Try contact this :

Swisscash victims, it's true, the Msian Sec Comm (MSC) has obtained a court order for the transfer of RM35m of Swisscash money in foreign bank accounts to Malaysia. If the MSC wins the case against Amir Hassan, Albert Lee et al, the cash will be distributed to Swisscash victims.

If you want to get on that list of victims, your best bet would be to contact the MSC. Details here, as found on their website:

Investor Affairs & Complaints Department
Securities Commission
No 3 Persiaran Bukit Kiara
Bukit Kiara
50490 Kuala Lumpur

Tel: 603 6204 8999
Fax: 603 6204 8991
E-mail: aduan@seccom.com.my

Source : http://www.worldlawdirect.com/forum/showth...83&page=105
busybody123
QUOTE(digger71 @ Oct 2 2007, 10:35 PM) [snapback]4416411[/snapback]
serene chea has run away rolleyes.gif


Not only that, she had placed all the money (hundreds of thousands0 in overseas banks.

QUOTE(pokpok @ Oct 2 2007, 11:55 PM) [snapback]4416490[/snapback]
QUOTE(optimusprimes @ Oct 2 2007, 06:36 AM) *
hihi .. some of my friend investors went to made a report to security commision and made police report ..
at the end .. they got their account freeze for further investigation ..
might be freeze for 6 months +-
now they all in deep s.h.i.t. with no bank account to use ..

they hv been told that even they made the report .. they still wont get their money back because there is no prove of the amount invested and it's also consider illegal and not recognise as legal entity ..

if u wana make report .. pls think twice of the consequences ..

good luck ..


Our group are preparing to report them soon. Bring everything that you have mentioned plus the photostated copies of the cheques that you have given to them to buy e-points from them. That is, if you are not paying them by cash.

Gather more investors to make the report will be more effective.

Even if you cannot get back the money, at least let the authority know about them and their criminal ways of scamming investors. Most of the cheerleaders/e-points dealers/agents/merchants already have record with the police or relevant authority.
webmastery
Hi, I just signed in, first post. Fellow SIP25 investor (Singapore), and I've been following this thread.

Things are coming to a head now. If anyone has the initiative/momentum to gather a group to report to the police, please let me know and count me in. PM me.

I have one question left. Can anyone ascertain whether http://www.palinureinterest.com is really a continuation of SC under rebranding? I like to hear all opinions for and against it. Must settle this grey area asap.

First evidence against it:

Check the domain registry info: http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/resu...ureinterest.com

Who is Sam Victory?

At http://www.palinureinterest.com/palinure/, the important notice reads "Palinure is an independent company and is not a replacement of any other companies."

best regards,
webmastery
GPRS
[edit]Trolling[/edit]
LORRENDRO
QUOTE(powerdollars @ Oct 3 2007, 01:42 PM) [snapback]4416360[/snapback]
Now maybe everyone would want to stop wasting their money and start making some serious money I'm in an excellent program that has not failed anyone in making their living from investments. It's reliable and worthy for a lifetime. From 1999 to 2007 $184,691,485.68 members profits has been made in this program. Email me for more info.

Hai powerdollars,

Since Swisscash is gone I would like to know more about the investment that really make money and not scam that you have mention in this forum.

Anyway you can contact me at : sellalama@gmail.com to tell me more about your so call reliable investment sites.

Hope to get your good news soonest.

Thanks.

sellalaama @ gmail.com

( Now maybe everyone would want to stop wasting their money and start making some serious money I'm in an excellent program that has not failed anyone in making their living from investments. It's reliable and worthy for a lifetime. From 1999 to 2007 $184,691,485.68 members profits has been made in this program. Email me for more info. )
ymg
QUOTE(ltif @ Oct 3 2007, 04:47 PM) [snapback]4416551[/snapback]
Can anyone answer me? Is it all the world cannot search the website of swisscash?



Swisscash`s New Sites are ready. They will be back with 4 Servers. Swisscash has Not Gone.




ymg[color="#0000FF"][/color]
magiciansmate
QUOTE(ymg @ Oct 4 2007, 08:05 AM) [snapback]4417595[/snapback]
Swisscash`s New Sites are ready. They will be back with 4 Servers. Swisscash has Not Gone.
ymg[color="#0000FF"][/color]


Well I wouldn't rely on that !
xun
THere is no such ONLINE INVESTMENT!!! ALL SCAMS !!!! early sure get money.. after few months.. say byebye ur to ur money !!! all cheating... seriously.. u all know that...
forex21
QUOTE(ymg @ Oct 5 2007, 12:05 AM) [snapback]4417595[/snapback]
Swisscash`s New Sites are ready. They will be back with 4 Servers. Swisscash has Not Gone.
ymg[color="#0000FF"][/color]


Yes, but we need to wait until 2999.
LORRENDRO
QUOTE(ymg @ Oct 5 2007, 12:05 AM) [snapback]4417595[/snapback]
Swisscash`s New Sites are ready. They will be back with 4 Servers. Swisscash has Not Gone.
ymg[color=#0000FF][/color]

How sure are you?

[size=4]What are the sites?

Who are the admins?
smallville
QUOTE(ymg @ Oct 4 2007, 08:05 AM) [snapback]4417595[/snapback]
Swisscash`s New Sites are ready. They will be back with 4 Servers. Swisscash has Not Gone.
ymg[/color]




Good news soon !!

QUOTE(ymg @ Oct 4 2007, 08:05 AM) [snapback]4417595[/snapback]
Swisscash`s New Sites are ready. They will be back with 4 Servers. Swisscash has Not Gone.
ymg[color="#0000FF"]




Good news soon !!
ymg
QUOTE(LORRENDRO @ Oct 5 2007, 08:27 AM) [snapback]4418222[/snapback]
[/color]How sure are you?

What are the sites?

Who are the admins?


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The domain names(urls) are different. However, the all the registration information is the Same as "swissmutualfund.biz".
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ymg
Citizens
QUOTE(ymg @ Oct 4 2007, 11:05 PM) [snapback]4417595[/snapback]
Swisscash`s New Sites are ready. They will be back with 4 Servers. Swisscash has Not Gone.
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digger71
QUOTE(Citizens @ Oct 4 2007, 07:42 PM) [snapback]4418420[/snapback]



Its all crap from day 1. Thats y they convert sip15300 to acf to delay the payment because they cant afford to pay it anymore

By that time , they launch new product and SUCK some more, its very obvious , may those who behind that scam ponzi scheme call swisscash
magiciansmate
QUOTE(ymg @ Oct 4 2007, 08:35 PM) [snapback]4418466[/snapback]
Solid Investment is still alive. I never promoted Solid Investment. I repeatedly said "Solid Investment" has become Too Big To Dissappear. THE SAME CAN BE SAID OF Swisscash.
ymg


Solid still alive ? Nobody paid ? Please.......
LORRENDRO
QUOTE(ymg @ Oct 5 2007, 09:03 AM) [snapback]4418262[/snapback]

The domain names(urls) are different. However, the all the registration information is the Same as "swissmutualfund.biz".
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ymg
[color="#0000FF"][size="5"][/size]You haven't answer any of my questions? You are diverting it to other senseless agenda.

Mind to answer my previous questions?





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magiciansmate
QUOTE(ymg @ Oct 4 2007, 08:35 PM) [snapback]4418466[/snapback]
Solid Investment is still alive. I never promoted Solid Investment. I repeatedly said "Solid Investment" has become Too Big To Dissappear. THE SAME CAN BE SAID OF Swisscash.
ymg


Posted twice sorry.
digger71
Its all scam and cheating other innocent people's money , it very pretty annoying and disguting
Only HELL suitable 4 all these guys , yes, the punishment will be awaiting u all SOOOOON.......
busybody123
QUOTE(xun @ Oct 4 2007, 11:48 AM) [snapback]4417918[/snapback]
THere is no such ONLINE INVESTMENT!!! ALL SCAMS !!!! early sure get money.. after few months.. say byebye ur to ur money !!! all cheating... seriously.. u all know that...


I greed with you.
From Swisscash we learned a very valuable lessons:

HYIP's are scams
Learn the truth about HYIP's stop throwing your money away!

HYIP (High Yield Investment Program) – These HYIP’s as people call them are all scams! Now you will see that they pay for about a week or 2 then they just stop paying people all together, and these are the half decent ones. Swisscash are a bigger scam with backers behind it having more money to pay out initially. They substained it for 2-3 years before they run away with millions of dollars.

Most HYIP’s don’t even pay anyone. They are here today and gone tomorrow. The main goal of a HYIP is to make as much money in as little time, then come up with some excuses as to why they had to stop paying. My brothers HYIP he was in claimed that they ran out of bandwidth, and just never came back online. Why would someone even waste there time putting money into a HYIP that is 99% guaranteed to run with your money?

I put $100 into a HYIP and guess what happened? I didn’t get paid. I was mad, and I was upset but whom was I kidding. Did I think I was going to really get paid? We all know they are trying to make money for themselves fast, then run with it all. Anything that promises to pay you more than 5% per month for doing nothing are likely to be a scam.

If you’re looking to make money online DO NOT choose to make it with a HYIP. These will only cause you pain and just put you more in the whole. The % most HYIP’s claim to pay is too high to trust. Do you really think if you invest $1,000 they will pay you $5,000 in a week? Lets get serious here now. If it was that easy everyone would be investing money into a HYIP, and quit their job. If they are really paying that good, why don't they approach the banks and financial institutions? I'm sure they will put in more money tahn us.

I suggest you take whatever money you where thinking about investing into a HYIP, and look into the stock, option, forex, fund and bond market. At least they are real, and you can watch your money go up and down.

Tken from article by:
Chris Rohrer
Published: 5/1/2006

paparaaaapa
QUOTE(digger71 @ Oct 2 2007, 10:35 PM) [snapback]4416411[/snapback]
serene chea has run away rolleyes.gif

where are those who been doing business with her? and her downlines that accept points??

QUOTE(ymg @ Oct 4 2007, 08:05 AM) [snapback]4417595[/snapback]
Swisscash`s New Sites are ready. They will be back with 4 Servers. Swisscash has Not Gone.
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This is really amaze me~~
magiciansmate
QUOTE(paparaaaapa @ Oct 5 2007, 03:53 AM) [snapback]4418882[/snapback]
where are those who been doing business with her? and her downlines that accept points??
This is really amaze me~~


YM has been in touch with the new bosses ! diablo.gif
mikescm
SwissCash should give back all the money owed to its members before thinking of a comeback. Your credibility is in doubt, no one will ever trust you again, you're doomed to fail!!!
mujobaby
QUOTE(ymg @ Oct 4 2007, 09:05 AM) [snapback]4417595[/snapback]
Swisscash`s New Sites are ready. They will be back with 4 Servers. Swisscash has Not Gone.
ymg[color="#0000FF"][/color]


Ymg,

That would be good news if it is authentic.

Can you validate your source of info. We all want to think positive but dont want our hopes built up to have them dashed again.

So if you have any further updates, please let us know.

Because in spite of some people saying SC is dead and gone, everyday they are in this forum posting and I know sto;; looking for its return, otherwise I don't understand why they don't move on and leave those of us who are still hopeful.
paparaaaapa
QUOTE(magiciansmate @ Oct 5 2007, 03:58 AM) [snapback]4418889[/snapback]
YM has been in touch with the new bosses ! diablo.gif

you sure with that?
well, it been a damn moment to wait just a news that they'r close~!
forex21
QUOTE(mujobaby @ Oct 5 2007, 11:02 PM) [snapback]4419169[/snapback]
Ymg,

That would be good news if it is authentic.

Can you validate your source of info. We all want to think positive but dont want our hopes built up to have them dashed again.

So if you have any further updates, please let us know.

Because in spite of some people saying SC is dead and gone, everyday they are in this forum posting and I know sto;; looking for its return, otherwise I don't understand why they don't move on and leave those of us who are still hopeful.


Those who believe that Swiss Cash will be back are now praying for long life so as to be able to wait until 2999.
smallville
I would kindly suggest that anyone who no longer believes that SC will return....plss...plsss..just leave us alone, i'm sure businessmen like u guys sure have something else morreee 'important' things to do diablo.gif
siaoyu
SWISSCASH/ SWISS MUTUAL FUND MONIES ARE HELD SAFE BY MALAYSIAN SECURITY COMMISSION
October 05, 2007
September 28, 2007 - 4:08pm | Author: REVATHI | Article Discussion

At last there is something that gives swisscash investors all over the world a sigh of relief.

Yes, Swisscash investor funds/monies are not taken over by ‘the scammers’. They are real. And the court case is real. The trial is real. The orders obtained by the Malaysian Securities Commission are real. The websites are still blocked-this is also a reality.

The news spread over by the bloggers that “none of the 7 accused attended.” “the SC asked for ten days more time to submit the proofs” “ the next adjournment is either on 8th or on 23rd October, 2007” all are false. And eyewash only.

Check it with Malaysian Securities Commission at: http://www.sc.com.my/ press release.

The Malaysian Securities Commission yesterday came out with “a breakthrough in its civil enforcement case against Swisscash internet investment scheme when it secured a Court Order to direct one of the defendants, Amir Hassan, to transfer back to Malaysia all Swisscash monies held in bank accounts overseas within seven days”.

The monies mentioned therein goes to the tune of RM35 million (US$10.245 million approx.) held in “six Hong Kong bank accounts and eight Singapore bank accounts.

The SC says that the worldwide Mareva injunction is still pending on Swisscash/SMF. It reminded the investors that the above entities are not registered with Securities Commission and operate in “in the borderless Internet realm.”

Once again the SC confirmed that the four websites of Swisscash are blocked by it.

Yes, the Swisscash activities are ‘illegal’ from Malaysian Securities Commission point of view because the Swisscash entities are not registered with Securities Commission.

Do you realize what it is and when the frozen swisscash websites will open?
Source : http://ecommerce-journal.com
magiciansmate
QUOTE(paparaaaapa @ Oct 5 2007, 09:46 AM) [snapback]4419409[/snapback]
you sure with that?
well, it been a damn moment to wait just a news that they'r close~!


I am sure YM believes it,I don't. The mans been stating that SI will be back for 14 months,is it ? NO.

Swiss Cash was a scam from start to finish.
GPRS
QUOTE(smallville @ Oct 5 2007, 04:41 PM) [snapback]4419756[/snapback]
I would kindly suggest that anyone who no longer believes that SC will return....plss...plsss..just leave us alone, i'm sure businessmen like u guys sure have something else morreee 'important' things to do diablo.gif


Nobody is holding anyone here, this investment is no longer active and
have been offline for almost 2 month globally and 6 month for Malaysian
investors beside that 6 month for Singaporean and Indonesian ACF share
got busted. How one should believe this??? You tell me.

Last not least , look where is this topic being placed, you the one should leave
us and stop speculating more false hope and malicious statement. You should
be in your dungeon " Pasai Swisscash " not here. Wrong place dude.


GPRS
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gunungman
QUOTE(xun @ Oct 4 2007, 11:48 AM) [snapback]4417918[/snapback]
THere is no such ONLINE INVESTMENT!!! ALL SCAMS !!!! early sure get money.. after few months.. say byebye ur to ur money !!! all cheating... seriously.. u all know that...


Part of HYIP life.. early bird always in profit..

i gain a lot with swisscash.. but lose in Relax.biz...

Just move on guys.. forget about SC..

forex21
QUOTE(smallville @ Oct 6 2007, 08:41 AM) [snapback]4419756[/snapback]
I would kindly suggest that anyone who no longer believes that SC will return....plss...plsss..just leave us alone, i'm sure businessmen like u guys sure have something else morreee 'important' things to do diablo.gif


Yes, you are right. Only those who are prepared to live up to the year 2999 should be left alone. Swiss Cash definitely will return in 2999. No one can prove me wrong. Cheers.
GPRS
To those who believe Swisscash will return, please read below happening to
one of our fellow investor even me too but not as huge as Racheal. With all
the happenings which creates losses after losses, i gave up in believing it will
return and choose to declare its a scam. I am seeing the true reality and got
my self totally cleared from get depressed by so called positive thinkers. You
people creates more mess towards every victims subconscious mind.


Originally Posted by Rachel
Thanks for the answers. Still feeling very down. I am a new investor, collected
only 25% of my initial capital (us15k!). Cleared out my savings! Stupid right? No!
I thought I could trust my direct upline, but he has also lost $ as did his upline! SC
recruited us through our friends! The people we trust! Needed SC to work out - like
all of us did... to improve our quality of life... but now after this, I am worse off... I
really do wish, hope, pray that all this is a misunderstanding and that SC is really
there for us! Am I still being too optimistic about all this?! There has to be a good
HYIP company out there that is real and has integrety and not all out to scam us of
our hard earn savings! Where is the justics for the poor fellows like us who just want
a little more?


What is the explanation for this happenings ??? You too are the victims right ??? Who
should be responsible for this ??? Look below for the top 4 culprits :

1) The Goverment and its Mareva ???
2) Swisscash ???
3) Third Party / E-point dealer ???
4) Your Upline who is your best friend, relative, your superior and trusted source ???

Well i pick 2 and 3, why?? Because i understand this (Below) and the rest is a co-incidents.

Its starts right on December 2006 when SC announced the appointments of e-point
dealers, the market have been flooded with e-points but no direct payment from SC.
All investors earning their monthly bonuses in the forms of e-points have to get new
investors to buy them over. Otherwise you will also be stuck with worthless e-points!

There is nothing involve anything with Goverment yet. And the same time news pops
up on top guns transferring ( BB Ng ) money from Barclay Bank to some local bank in
Singapore and Hong Kong worth Millions. Its should be Billions i guess.

Freeze 3 big investments money into ACF shares on April 2006, right from investors
e-wallet without prior notice. ( the big impact ) Many lost their fortune here where they
built patiently. And there is no Goverment involvement yet..right ???

On May Malaysian Goverment starts to unveil several potential scam investments but
Swisscash was not mentioned yet even on the list they publish. But Dream Kaya Team
who lead by Amir Hassan announce on the pull off entirely. Most of the top leader in each
state in Malaysia falls into his network and the money flows like river into the account, do
you think its stops just there ??? Nope its falls further into the main dam in Barclay Bank,
Who owns it ??? Again the same story on some money transfer by BB Ng into some local
bank. For what ??? To generate investment ??? Or to hide into some bunker ???

The so called 35 million which get caught is meant for the E-point dealer's to push
further the SIP25 plan and to get busted as well. Why ??? See the number's of account
left ( 8 in Singapore & 7 in Hong Kong ) just to divert the one issue in multiple angle.
On December the total investments reaches Billions ( Close to 5 Billions ). Look at the %
of the money get busted and calculate your self where is the remaining money. Back to
the 35 million , well i think the actual money should be less, sorry for those who invest
on the SIP25 plan. This plan is to buy time to hide the all time money squicky clean.

For me most of the E-point Dealer know this well and really made some fortune out of
it with their malicious updates by selling to country whom just get to known about it like
Iran , Jamaica , India , Lebanon and ask to re-invest into to the new plan by promoting
everywhere in forums and blog. Focus on the money in and stay rather than to pay by
delaying OMT's. Did you experience that ??? For sure you do now.

If you talk about the Goverment , its just some aftermath of a true disaster and they are
cleaning the mess right now. If you talk about your upline , well he or she is one of the
victims and if he or she is the dealer then you should do your homework right now to stop
the actual Billions which is floating somewhere and got vanished. If you got the culprit you
able to stop your hard earned being enjoyed by this irresponsible people further.

GPRS blush.gif
xun
One more funny thing. I had EMAIL 2 times and a week ago to
Securities Commission
General Enquiry and Corporate-related Matters

Corporate & International Affairs Department
Securities Commission
3, Persiaran Bukit Kiara
Bukit Kiara
50490 Kuala Lumpur
Tel: 603-6204 8777
Fax: 603-6201 5078
E-mail: cau@seccom.com.my

About the new Investment website http://palinureinterest.com/palinure/
I inform them it's new scam but they didn't take any action !!! we still can access the website !!!
They don't even block the website. U all can try it !!!

And i believe about the RM35 million transfer back to Malaysia is not the real amount. I think more than that !!! One of my swisscash upline he ever withdrawn USD 1 Million over to his sg bank. And i think Amir and Albert's acc should much much much more than him. RM 35 million is just a very very small amount for them. They scammed more than that amount.
forexjunior
i got may profit from SC
last time before SC gone, i have sold all my e-point
very nice
digger71
Its over guys, its well planned scam , full stop!!!
xiaolu
[font="Century Gothic"][/font]For people who has no faith in SC, who has nothing better to do than just wasting your time to posting some negative thoughts and putting curse on it, you really should just leave us who still have faith in SC ALONE. We believe you should move on and leave us BEHIND!!! We don't need your help, Just go away!!!
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